Re: UtahBlueDevilThe fall of communism in Eastern Europe and the
susequent collapse of the Soviet Union more than makes up for any percieved
failures from the Reagan Administration.
That's cool that an ex-Pres is coming to Salt Lake!However, I
disagree with the reporter's statement that "Of course he does have to make a
living."Pres Carter received a $191,000 pension last year since he's
an ex-president. He also received another $327,000 in FY2008 for "office and
staff." (All ex-presidents get additional $ to maintain an office and
staff.)I like that Carter's publishing excerpts from his own diary.
Just don't try to make me feel like I'm making it possible for him to afford
food, Des News... Be better, Des News.
As an independent, the right is really trying its hardest to prove to the rest
of the country they are just a bunch of angry white people who will lie their
way into power. There is much I don't approve of in the liberal/progressive
agenda. But the outright distortions of fact, lies, falsehoods and revisionist
histories promoted but the so called christian conservatives just blows my mind.
Carters Presidency was full of failures and issues. I hated the 55
mph rule, or the 85 mph speedometer... both stupid legislation. There were a
many contributing factors to all the other scenarios you all laid out other than
good old Jimmy was just a dunce.But then to saintize Reagan, a man
who left office with more than his fare share of issues - Iran Contra and good
old Oliver North aided by a good lapse in memory if he authorized drugs for
weapons programs. He was a great orator like our current president, and is
given credit for far more than he deserves, like our current president. Lets
not also forget the US retreat from Lebanon four months after the 1983 bombing.
Hardly a proud moment.
The only good thing Carter gave to America was a President Reagan!Too bad Bush II gave us the current Occupant.
Ok all you Democrat haters get your facts right. First off the high
inflation started with Nixon pulling the US off the gold standad causing the
purchasing power of the dollar dropped like a rock.1980 Avg interest
rate was 13.35$1979 avg 11.19$1978 avg 8.74%1977 5.71%How bout the Reagan Years?1981 16.37% 1982 12.25% 1983
9.08% 1984 10.22%Hmm higher rates during the Reagan years?How bout the oil crisis, guess what revisionist it didn't happen during the
Carter administration but in 1967 and again in 1973? So why did Iran fall
apart could it be a propped up dictator who opposed the free will of the
religious majority in Iran?Jimmy Carter came into office inheriting
a huge mess caused mostly by the Republicans Nixon and Ford. He did his best to
convince the American people that they should conserve energy, not pollute and
live peacefully in this world... Carter successes include peace
between Egypt and Israel, Better trade with China who now buys all our debt, how
bout SALT.He did his best with the hand he was dealt
Perhaps the most egregious and far reaching of the
Jimmy Carter failures was his bringing down of the Shah of Iran in 1979, to be
replaced by radical Muslim cleric Ayatollah Khomeini. The history of Iran is
such that a secular government friendly to both the West and their trading
partners along the ancient trade routes, such as India and China, had been an
important stabilizing element in Mid-east politics for centuries. Jimmy Carter
pressured the Shah, a longtime friend of the United States, to leave Iran. Then
he denied him asylum and medical treatment. At the same time he supported the
fundamentalist Mullahs who opposed the Shah. A religious revolution followed and
the rise of Muslim fundamentalism had begun in the Middle East. The terrorism
and overall unrest that plagues the world today can be properly traced to this
specific failure of the Jimmy Carter presidency.
Clearly his mind is going. The world was a big mean place back then too, we were
just in full retreat up til Reagan.
Jimma Carter hasn't improved much over past 3 decades either.
At least we Americans were smart enough to limit Mr. Carter to one term! I
remember his administration all too well: the Panama Canal given away, Tehran
hostage crisis, Cuban boat lift, 17% home mortgage rates, and inflation rampant.
Yeah, he was a great president alright - at least in his own mind.
America has improved greatly over the past thirty years. Jimmy Carter has not,
more's the pity.
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Although you've done some fine and noble things in later
years, your presidency was what it was -- a marvelous example of ineptitude.
The USA improved immensely while President Reagan was being sworn in and the
Iranians were releasing the US Embassy hostages who were taken while Jimmuh
Carter was President.
I hope whoever is elected next is to Obama what Reagan was to Carter.
Yep, Jimmy. The United States has not changed much for the better, thanks to
you and the democrat agenda. Starting with Lyndon Johnson's Great (Giveaway)
Society, the democrat party has been more interested in buying votes and
creating dependency than promoting a productive, tax paying, educated populace.
Democrats punish success and reward irresponsibility.
Lol, hey Ex-Pat of Zion ,The united states has never lost a war with
another country. read your history.: )I miss President
Bush. Seriously, One of the greatest presidents of our time. Read his book,
I have had the honor of working side by side with President Carter on homes for
Habitat for Humanity. I will say that he is a good man, but when it comes to
his political ideology he is as far out in left field as can be. I am too young
to remember much about his presidency, but I do know that today he is out of
touch with America.
Let's talk about blood on our hands--yes, a few thousand civilians died in Iraq
most of them at the hands of fellow Iraqi citizens. How about the 3 million who
died in SE Asia because a democratic congress cut off funding and let the
invading North Vietnamese Army massacre and reeducate the local populace, Or the
Laotian hill people who were gassed. Before you start crying we shouldn't have
been there you need to have some historical understanding of what was happening
at that time in history.
Coming from the only President more incompetent that Obama. I recall things got
way better in 1981 and 1982 than 1980.
Well, Mr. Carter, you and your ilk have done everything you can to dismantle our
nation over the past 30+ years...perhaps that has something to do with our
current state, non?
Where to start with the shredding of this jack leg president? Never fired a
missile? Maybe because even if you'd needed to you would have bent over and
taken it instead of defending us Carter. Bi-partisanship? Maybe because the
dems controlled everything and had for decades when you were prez. Mr. Carter.
The repubs still bent over and took it when you and your party led us into the
ditch. How about the massive inflation you saddled us with Jimmy boy? Anyone
remember 20% interest rates? Geez you could go on for days ripping this clown.
Well, at least you can take solace in the fact that you're no longer the worst
president of the last 100 years. A new contender has arrived to take your
Yep, still dumb as a brick. The only good thing is that Obama is making him
look good.Mr. Carter, perhaps you should read a history book
BTW, we can also thank Mr. Carter for pulling support for the Shah and allowing
the Islamic theocrats to take power in Iran, a mistake that plagues us to this
Carter hasn't improved much over the past three decade, America says.
WOW! In the end Reagan couldnt remember all the great things he had done.
Carter remembers great things he NEVER did!
He's a legend in his own mind.
Article quote: "We had almost complete harmony with every nation on Earth," the
Nobel Peace Prize winner said of his administration. "We not only preserved
peace for our country, we never went to war. We never dropped a bomb. We never
fired a missile."Yet Carter had American hostages in Iran for a
paltry 444 days.Ya know, maybe he SHOULD have used military power.
Yes, even after the failed rescue attempt.
Keep on making your case, Jimmy. If you live, long, long, long enough you just
may have out lived all of us that suffered through your one term presidency.
Then it will be only your words against those pesky historians'.Do
you realize how much you have to thank President Obama for? Afterall, up until
now the American public never had a greater sense of "buyer's remorse" with a
POTUS. It is the current president's administration that has elevated the Carter
adminstration to the 2nd worse in at least the last 100 years.It is
kind of nice to be #2 sometimes, isn't it Jimmy!
Keep making the case that you were a good president, Jimmy. If you live long,
long,long enough, those Americans that actually suffered through your one term
presidency, will have all died off. Then it will only be your word against those
pesky historians'.Never, until now, have Americans had a greater
sense of "buyer's remorse" with a POTUS, than with you. You have much to be
thankful for of the Obama adminstration! It's sometimes nice to be
#2, isn't it?
"We had almost complete harmony with every nation on Earth," Well,
accept for the Russians invading Afganistan and the Cubans running amok in
Africa and Central America and the Iranians holding American hostages and
terrorists in Lebanon targeting Americans for kidnapping and all of Eastern
Europe being behind barbed wire and stuff like that.But besides
THOSE things Carter had it under control!Somebody take this guy back
to the home and give him some fresh tapiocca.
Some of the highlights of the Carter YearsJanuary 21, 1977Carter pardons Vietnam War draft evaders. December
31�January 1, 1977Carter visits the Mohammed Reza Shah Pahlavi, in
Tehran, calling Iran "an island of stability" in the Middle East. March 17, 1978Carter warns of the Soviet threat in a foreign policy
address at Wake Forest University. December 15, 1978The Carter
administration grants full diplomatic status to the People's Republic of China.
April 20, 1979President Carter claims a rabbit tried to attack
him during a fishing trip in Georgia, and the Washington Post runs a front page
story with the headline: "President Attacked by Rabbit." September
14, 1979A Washington Post poll gives Carter the lowest approval rating of
any President in three decades. November 4, 1979Iranian
students take sixty-six Americans hostage at the American embassy in Tehran. Not bad for a one term loser.I think Obama will make the
Carter Years look good by comparison.
Way to go, Carter. The one war we actually should have engaged in in the last
50 years (against Iran ca. 1979), which may well have put the reins on the rise
of radical Islam, was the one we failed to engage in.
You know, Jimmy Carter was correct here about one thing: there was more
bi-partisanship in Congress when he was President; both parties despised the
miserable little failure of a President equally. Now that's what you call a
As I recall, Jimmy's administration was marked by considerable strife with the
middle east and more specifically Iran. We were in the middle of the Cold War
and that means that tensions between Soviet era Russia were very strong. China
was not even at the table to play. The "peace" talks between Israel and the
'Palestinian' people were at the same stalemate they are today and Arafat was a
real thorn in J.C.'s side. Apparently, Jimmy's memory is as bad as
his presidential policies were.
This guy cracks me up! Seriously. Most of Carter's failings, and they are
many, have already been mentioned here, but I haven't seen what I think is his
biggest legacy - the Department of Education. A massive, unnecessary, federal
bureaucracy that has proven to be nothing more than a shill for the teachers
unions. In 30+ years it has done nothing but DUMB DOWN education in this
country. An absolute travesty!
That's right! Same 'ol incompetent Jimmy Carter. I guess he wasn't TOO all
around in the last three decades. Ronald Reagan faced an 11% unemployment rate
when he took office in 1980. He cut taxes across the board and froze government
spending. As a result, America enjoyed nearly three decades of an economic boom.
Carter and his liberal cronies can deny that all they want but the truth stands
firm. The point is, people just don't believe liberalism anymore!
I'm a naturalized citizen who still remembers the contrast between the US of Mr.
Carter and the US of Mr. Reagan. What a contrast! I congratulate those in this
forum who also remember the fact that Mr. Carter's single accomplishment to
Egypt and Israel to successfully negotiate the peace was great. I'm also glad
that there is a consensus that Mr. Carter has been trying to rewrite history now
that many of his generations are no longer around to remind him of the mess he
made. I surely remember other nations' disdain towards the US. Many thought that
the days of US superpower were gone under Mr. Carter and now, I'm afraid there
is the same feeling thanks to Mr. Obama.
@ Ex-Pat of Zion: give it a rest man. Your last defense of Carter was literally
laughable. He was a vanilla, middle-o-the-road, ineffectual boob who was
perceived (accurately) as spineless (hostage crisis). You won't get much support
in defending that guy, and for good reason. Have you noticed the recurring
thematic word being used in these bogs? Inept. It's telling.
Again, liberal presidents never fade away! They are political activists first,
The Rock | 11:56 a.m. Oct. 24, 2010 Federal Way, WABush was at
least willing to defend the US and our interests. Radical Islam attacked us.
Bush cannot be held accountable for any of the deaths inflicted by our enemies
in the Middle East.====================Does
your moniker represent what you've been living under? We were attacked by 19
crazed extremists from Saudi Arabia. We were not attacked by a religion made up
of 1.5 billion people. Bush/Cheney cooked the facts to support their agenda.
And we invaded a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11, and had done NOTHING
to us. At least a million people have died based on lies. Jimmy
Carter was an ineffectual president. But George W. Bush will go down in history
as THE worst president this country ever had the misfortune of enduring. He and
his cronies should be in prison for all the blood they have on their hands. If
they cannot be held accountable for all the blood, WHO CAN?It's
shameful when people defend these evil liars by saying that they were only
defending our interests.
Apparently my comments were edited by DesNews that I made yesterday. They
weren't nasty, were on subject and although opinionated I feel appropriate. I really dislike this guy. I asked "who let this guy out of the nursing
home." I meant it in a way that shows he is an embarrassment as an ambassador
for the US. So sad to see people still think he is Lucid - or really ever was.
As an American I am sad when people represent my country that are so far from
what I consider "reality."Let's see if this makes it through the
comment editors this time :)
I'm all for people from either party FAILING when trying to enact policy and
laws designed to grab more power and take our freedoms under the pretense of
"taking care of us"
The man is a disgrace. Only the presence of obama has made him look any, but
not very much, better.
@ ljeppson | 11:36 a.m. Oct. 24, 2010 You said; "One of the
highlights of our lives was when President Carter shook my wife's hand when he
was coming out of Barnes and Noble in Sugarhouse. A truly great man! Moreover he
doesn't have the blood of 100,000's of civilians on his hands like President
George W Bush. "Under Carter's "leadership" the USSR took over ten
nations and enslaved them. His weak leadership lead to a much more aggressive
and brutal Soviet Empire.Bush was at least willing to defend the US
and our interests. Radical Islam attacked us. Bush cannot be held accountable
for any of the deaths inflicted by our enemies in the Middle East.Bush was no prize. I disagree with him on many things. Bush was light years
ahead of Jimmy Carter as President. They only thing Jimmy Carter can do right
is grow peanuts and maybe build houses with Habitat for Humanity.Carter was in way over his head. Obama is even worse.
One of the highlights of our lives was when President Carter shook my wife's
hand when he was coming out of Barnes and Noble in Sugarhouse. A truly great
man! Moreover he doesn't have the blood of 100,000's of civilians on his hands
like President George W Bush.
I remember the years Prsident Carter was in office. I have never doubted that
he was, and is, a good and honorable man. For the longest time, though, I
thought he would be the worst President in my lifetime. George Walker Bush has
releived him of that "first" -- George Walker Bush holds the position of worst
"President" (he didn't deserve the title president) ever.
Sorry Mr. Carter, but having survived your admininstration, watching you
campaign in the West on the evils of tobacco, then praising the South for their
wonderful tobacco industry, dementia has robbed you of the reality of your
negative impact, not only on this country, but on the world. This article
sounds more like it was written for his funeral than the harsh realty of his
works as a President.
Mr. Carter is a master of revisionist history. He obviously sees things as he
wishes they were rather than as they really were. His presidency was among the
most ineffectual in history. Double digit inflation, gas lines, lack-luster
military, etc, etc. I remember well his telling the American people that we were
in a "malaise." Perhaps it was true but if so it was his policies and lack of
leadership that put us there.Give him credit for doing good for
people since he left office. Period.
Bob T is absolutely correct. How soon we forget, better yet, how well history
gets distorted by the news media and our public education system.Obama complains about what he inherited. How many remember what Reagan
inherited from Carter?
Yes it has . You were only in office one term. This comes from someone who voted
for you twice. Shame on me.
lets see- over the last 30 years which party has had exclusive rights to former
presidents who comment incessantly about their successors and their policies?
"Because when I was successful in dealing with jobs and when I was dealing with
international affairs and peace and human rights and energy and that sort of
thing, then America (was successful)."When was he successful at any
of those things? He should have said IF he had been successful then America
would have been successful. He wasn't and we weren't. It was a tough 4 years
that we survived inspite of him. What a relief it was to see him go.I think he has a bit of dementia now. As many elderly do he's living in the
past and a little out of touch with reality.
Jimmy Carter is a decent, honorable man, and has done much good with Habitat for
Humanity.As President he was a total disaster, no matter how he sees
it in hindsight, or tries to fantasize it into being a successful term. I
suspect he is just jealous that Obama has dethroned him as the worst president
in our history.I remember the bad old Carter years: Gas rationing.
Buying a house with a 12% mortgage. The hollowing of our military. The racial
tensions.No, those were not the "good old days."Stick to
the good deeds, Jimmy, and please don't embarrass yourself by meddling in
politics again. We are in deep enough trouble today, without your advice making
I am really not sure why Carter is even opening his mouth. His presidency was
an abject failure. Many of the problems we face in the Middle East stem from
HIS administration. His is an unhappy chapter in American History. He needs to
Sad day. With 300 million or so people in the USA, you would think we could find
better presidents than Carter and Obama. Unemployment up, energy prices up, home
ownership down, national morale down. Mr Carter and Mr Obama go around the world
criticizing the United States and then come home and do their best to ruin it.
We must do a better job of electing statesmen and not self centered politicians.
LOL Ex-patI enlisted in the Guard in 1974, and Vietnam was NOT
Nixon's war. I recently retired from the Army, so I have seen the change from
then until now, from the playing field not the bleachers. Under Mr Carter,
taxes were confiscatory and we were supposed to just roll over play dead for
them. Under Mr Reagan, we regained our place in the world that we had given up
under Mr Carter. The Army was filled with soldiers training to fight, who knew
that if the Soviets decided to come through the Fulda Gap, they were nothing but
a speed bump, and they stayed in to make it better. Under Mr Carter and Mr
Clinton, we were obliged to ask permission to defend ourselves. Under Mr Reagan
and the Bushes we made it clear that we didn't need to ask. Mr
Carter is trying to revise history on how good it was under his watch, and I am
here to set the record straight as one who was on the business end of it.Sorry sir, but I'm not buying.
My favorite President Carter decision was boycotting the 1980 Moscow
Olympics...that showed them whose boss.
Lest ye forget, in a nutshell the Shah of Iran was a brutal, ruthless dictator
installed by a CIA led coup over a democratically elected government, and who
opressed the people of Iran. The Ayatollah was seen as a liberator.
From the article: "The president has a lot of help," Carter said.
"And I would say, in general, maybe not exactly now when there's such a negative
attitude, but in general, the American people wanted me as president to be
successful. Because when I was successful in dealing with jobs and when I was
dealing with international affairs and peace and human rights and energy and
that sort of thing, then America (was successful)."Wow! What
a difference 30 years make! Now, Americans actively hope and cheer for our
President to FAIL. From the article:"Carter says
the most difficult moment was when eight American servicemen were killed in a
failed attempt to rescue the hostages in April 1980."When
asked what his biggest regret of his presidency was, George W. Bush answered,
"Not privatizing social security."I guess he doesn't see all
the blood on his hands...
Ah, little wonder that Michael Medved calls Jimmy Carter "The Worthless One".Double digit inflation.Double digit unemployment.Double
digit interest rates.We were all told that we would have to do with
less, that America's best days were behind us.Ronald Reagan fixed
all that with simple free market reforms.Bush went to congress 17
times to reign in the excesses of Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac. The Republican's
could not overcome a Democrat filibuster. If the Democrats had shown any
bipartisanship or any sanity the entire sub prime meltdown would not have
happened.Despots know that you cannot impose socialism on a people
without impoverishing them first.Thanks to Obama, Jimmy Carter is no
longer the worst president in US history.
LOL JackI remember the Carter years also. Oil embargo? That would
be 1974 (Nixon's watch). Military couldn't fight? It was four years removed
from hugely unpopular war we LOST (again ... Nixon's watch). Not many folks
wanting to enlist after THAT CF. The fallout? Future generation of enlistees
built largely along socio-economic lines and perpetuated by the Reagan military
build up. Sure, Reagan had "star wars", but the "boots" were filled with the
poor. And the interest rates? You'll find no argument with me there, but the
ever present financial sector (I worked for Zion's Bank 1978-1981)they preyed on
the poor. Then, you needed down payments for things like homes and cars. Banks
sought "guarantees" from big ticket transactions (recourse clauses)and the slim
hopes that people were willing to risk high rates for didn't materialize, they
lost proportionately a LOT more that the finance sector. Sure ... nobody put a
gun to their head, but they did whisper sweet promises ("the American dream") in
their ears. It's a tactic as old as Eden
This man is so full of himself. He thinks he made a better world for us? Well
Mr. Carter let me refresh your memory of just how bad you screwed things up.1. Inflation in the teens.2. Interest rates for homes at 15%
plus3. Sky rocketing fuel prices.4. Hight unemployment5.
Setting things in motion that have us in the mess we are in now.If
your had not turned your back on Iran when the Shaw was in power we would not
have the current set of issues that we have now.Next thing Mr.
Carter. You turned your back on your own country men and left them has hostages
for over 400 days plus. Shame on you Mr. Carter. Only when President Regan was
elected did this country move forward. You and your new
student (Obama) will go down is history has the two worst Presidents in the
history of the 20th and 21st century.
I had the unlucky experience of being in Iran 1976-1979. Jimmy Carter was the
final arrow in the back of the Shah of Iran, he in fact created conditions which
allowed the Ayatolla Khomeni to re-enter Iran from exile in France. In August,
1978 the media in Iran was full of information concerning the fact that
President Carter had told the Shah that he must give all the people freedom of
speech, assembly etc he must also release political prisoners and disband Savac
(his secret police). All of these conditions must be met or the US would
withdraw all support. Over night, the peoples attitude toward Americans changed
from pro-American to anti-American ending with our expulsion in February 1979.
The most improvement we made was getting rid of President Carter. He's a fine
man and a humanitarian but was one of the worst presidents of all time. There
is hope for Carter's legacy, however. Obama is so horribly bad that he may make
everyone forget how lousy Carter was.
Pardon me, sir; your slip is showing. I remember the Carter years, and they
were not all peaches and fuzzy kitties. Highest unemployment, "stagflation"
(his term for it), a military that couldn't fight, interest rates for homes in
the 14s, car loans were at 22. The oil embargo, the list goes on and on. Mr
President, take of your blinders, come back to reality. Yes, the treaty was a
great accomplishment, but it certainly doesn't make up for the mess you made
chasing your false utopia.
Carter was the most inept President until Obama came along. He was a major
force in making the mess in the Mideast.
Actually surprised there aren't more panners chiming in here. I wonder, KM, if
you would be just as critical of another "peace maker" that roamed the middle
east a couple of millennia ago? You want to go the rounds with me on the topic
of leadership style there? Bring it on!I for one have no problems
with someone at least trying to emulate the Master. Carter has, since leaving
the White House, done nothing but help people who for the most part can not help
themselves.As far as the assessment of the maladies (polarization)
gripping Washington, he is absolutely spot on.
The world according to garp: "we had almost perfect peace with every nation on
earth while I was president." He is living in fantacy land. He was the most
inept president of our time. The world is getting more complex, not less.
Carter would rather sit and have a cup o tea with our radical Islamic enemies
than stand up and face the problem that they are.Carter would have been a
fine farmer or church pastor, but president? No way.