Bluto,Just remember, Even New Mexico can decide to go independent.
No merit or invite required. You see, what keeps you and other kewgs
up late at night is knowing your school and athletic program has not
"influenced" the group(s) you so desperatly want acceptance from. Going
"independent" is just another way of saying you failed.It's like the
kid who wasn't accepted into college and instead tries to set-up a lawn mowing
I am amused at all this big brother/little brother talk. I am a fan of both
teams and the fact is that BYU was most definitely the big brother for many
years. But now it is clear that times have changed and if we must use that
terminology it is now the Utes who are the "big brother". I think
BYU has begun a horrible down hill slide relative to Utah. The BYU advantage in
recruiting blue chip LDS athletes has taken a severe hit. Utah has a great LDS
coach and a great LDS institute in a great LDS city. Also, BYU has trivialized
every other sport by putting them in the WCC. What will THAT do for recruiting
in basketball and for attendance at games? Again, as a fan of both teams, I hope
something good happens so that BYU won't fall so far behind Utah, but right now
it really is hard to be optimistic about BYUs athletic future.
Utes will now have a 1/4 share of a big pot of money. Instead of having their
revenues syphoned off by the likes of Wyoming and New Mexico. Remember, the LA, Phoenix, Tuscon, Seattle, Portland, San
Francisco/Oakland/San Jose markets are all considerably larger TV markets
compared to Salt Lake. The amount they will get when they have a
full share will be incredible. Lets hope it helps build a better basketball
Rock Of The Marne"not being in a BCS conference makes your team a
mid-major."Says who?There's no such thing as a mid-major
independent. The mid-major label applies only to conferences.BYU leaves mid-major status the same day Utah leaves mid-major
status.Don't be so certain that being in the PAC 12 is Utah's golden
ticket to national prestige.Utah could just as easily be joining the
ranks of the Washington States and Baylors and Dukes of the world. Mid-major
teams within a major conference.Another Arizona. 30 years in the PAC
10 and still looking for their first Rose Bowl.The biggest
difference between BYU and Utah going forward is Utah will still be judged by
the conference they're associated with.BYU, henceforth, will be
judged solely on what BYU accomplishes.
Bluto, not being in a BCS conference makes your team a mid-major. Mid major is
defined by almost any and everyone for football as anyone not in one of the six
BCS leagues. So please let that reality hit you on your way out to independence
which any team can do if the chose. Getting invited to BCS conference is a big
deal (especially one that isn't the Big Least). With regards to ESPN, they show
many a night DIVIAA and DIV II teams so getting on ESPNU is no big deal. If
your team was so great and valuable why hasn't the BIG XII or any other BCS
conference come calling; they’ve made offers to Notre Dame, why not your
team? Bottom line is Utah's in, BYU's out, deal with it.
@rockofthemarneUtah is now and will forever be a "Mid-Major"
"Within their own Conference".Regardless of their revenues, they
will not match BYU's exposure or influence.Get used to 1 or 2 games,
maybe, a year Nationally in Football and "None" in Basketball. And settle in to
your new home at Fox Regional.Memo to trolls....Mid-Majors Don't...1-Sign Independepent TV deals with ESPN for
8-10 million per year.2-Have their own TV Network with state of the
art HD facilities. Which will generate another 4-6 million in TV revenues.3-Have every, single, solitary, Football and Basketball game Televised
Nationally and Internationally. ESPN family, ABC, or BYU-TV.4-Have
the rights to all of their Olympic sports and monetizing them as well.5-Granted same day re-play rights on their own Network with Network games.6-Can forge their own schedule, every year, play games and teams across
the Nation, with teams which have publically stated their respect of BYU and
it's tradition.7-Schedule $2.5 million games, on their name
alone.BYU has landed in it's best spot and so has Utah, grow up.
@rockothemarne, vegas ute, etcI guess 40 years of living in BYU's
shadow gives you impetus to pound your chest a bit. Slow down Utes, see that
train coming 'round the bend? It's got your name all over it.You
think you have surpassed BYU as Top Dog? Not so fast trolls.I
remember the exuberance the Arizona schools felt when they left the old WAC and
they were surely going to dominate the Pac-8 (10) in their minds.Never happened. 2 Rose Bowls between them in 30 years! Chew on that Utes.You are entering a league which places as high a priority on Basketball
and Olympic sports as anything else.Will Utah ever win a Conference
Championship again, in any sport? Utah won 1 Conference Championship
last year. BYU-9.When the Arizona schools Superior Traditions over
Utah (in all sports) have struggled as they have, then it really should
encourage Utes to temper their boastfulness.Utah hasn't dominated a
Conference in 60 years, why will now be any different?The rude
lessons of humility coming your way, will be painful.6 and 6 seasons
won't fill your stadium.Ask Washington State.
Great sportsmanship on most postsBut focus should be on the now. The
Utes still have a wall of worry to climb this year.Wyoming 7 Texas
34Wyoming 6 Utah 30 But Wyoming 0 TCU 45andUtah 27 Pitt 24 OTNotre Dame 23 Pitt 17
regulation.Feisty spoiler AF looms ahead, as well as the Y, which is
always up for one of the top 5 hottest rivalries in football. Praise
to the poster who noted the Utes climb to the mountain top started with Mac and
continued through Urban and Whit.The Utes are now in the Pac 12 but
Utah has shown all of its previous conference alignments came to an end one
day.Go Utes - but for some humility look up the Wikipedia review of
Ute football over the years and old timers can remember the dark years of the
'70s and '80s.Fortunes ebb and flow. Enjoy the rising tide that
swamped the Alabama Tide.So the Utes need to thank Bama too. Would
love to see the Utes whip the Tide again.
I appreciate those on the comment boards that are leaving positive comments.
I can only wish some here, whether they are BYU or Utah fans, or
observers, will please be respectful as it reflects negatively when they're not.
As for Utah, I am excited for the athletic program. It is hard to
know right away how competitive they will be in the PAC-12, but once they rise
to the level of talent the conference possesses, they will be good. The future is bright for Utah, that we know. And even more exciting is that
we as fans will get to have a part to play in the dawning of a new era in Utah
and BYU athletic history. I cannot wait for teams like Oregon and
USC to play football in Utah. The overall athletic program, not just football
and basketball, will benefit greatly. Utah has strong women's volleyball and
women's gymnastics programs, both of which will get stronger right away as the
PAC-12 is the nation's strongest conference in those sports. Be
patient with Utah if they have some down years in the beginning.Just
Yeah right, Cougars wise little brothers. Sorry Utah does not need BYU and soon
BYU will be just an afterthought in most Ute fans minds. You cougar fans’
delusions of grandeur and importance to others never fails to amaze me. Enjoy
You can spout off until you're blue in the face, VegasUte, but the groundwork
for Utah's success was laid with football expertise learned by Utah's coaches
while playing and coaching under LaVell's tutelage.LaVell may have
earned a Master's degree at Utah, but he learned the basics of football playing
at Utah State.Chow learned how to coach from LaVell at BYU.LaVell was the Renaissance man as far as BYU's offense is concerned -- he
implemented the passing game at BYU, then brought in coach after coach after
coach to perfect BYU's passing attack. That's what great coaches do
and it's something that Kyle and other Utah coaches learned from LaVell.LaVell's PhD, btw, is from BYU!Your constant bitterness
towards BYU, just proves that no matter what Utah accomplishes, for you, it will
never be able to stand on its own without comparing it to BYU.Good
luck in the PAC 12!I hope you make us all proud little brother.
Funny how the zoobs try to point out the fact that Whittingham is a graduate of
the Y, but they forget he was coached by Utah graduates! The zoo's greatest
years were because of Utah alumni, Lavell Edwards and Norm Chow. The
zoo's greatest achieving QB in the NFL was coached to his greatest NFL
achievements by a Ute!!Whitt turned down the zoo several times
before the Utah job was even open. Tells you something!! Zoo had to settle for
second choice. The U accepts an invitation to the Conference of
Champions. The zoo has to do something so they go independent. Because they
thought it was best for the school? No, it was second choice. Even your AD, in a
press conference, said that going to a BCS conference would have been their
obvious choice, but "there were no takers".Face it zoobs, you will
NEVER get out of the shadows of your big brother on the hill.Go
Utes! Love the Crimson!
Utah deserves this. I would like to thanks all former players for making this
Congrats Utah and good luck in the PAC 12!With a good group of
coaches trained by the master, LaVell, the Utes should continue to do well.It's too bad that the religious bigots at Cal kept BYU from joining
you.The postulate that Colorado will become Utah's new "rival" is
silly.Regardless of conference or independence, BYU and Utah are
tied at the hip as rivals.Generations of loyalty, of split families,
co-workers, friends, and neighbors living on opposite sides of the red/blue
fence isn't going to fade just because BYU and Utah don't play in the same
@ sammygGotta love the words of a bitter cougar fan. It'll only get
better as the years go on and we dominate not only on the gridiron but in the
recruiting battle too.Anywho, I just took a look at the 2011 BYU
schedule, it looks like it's shaping up to be a real doozie!!! There are some
formidable teams on there, such as mighty UCF, fearsome Utah State, and other
quality foes like Idaho, New Mexico State, San Jose State, and Louisiana Tech!!!
After losing the first three to Oregon State, Texas, and Utah, (and it's
possible that USU could beat the cougs again) I figure, even with the soft
schedule, the cougs will still go 8-4 at best. But hey, at least
they'll be on ESPN half the time so the whole nation can witness the epic
beatdowns that the zoobs have to endure and the narrow wins that they'll pull
out against mediocre teams!!! (SDSU and washington for example)Rise
and Shout, the Cougars are OUT (of luck for ever being considered for a BCS
game, that is.)GREAT DAY TO BE A UTE!!!
Started out with a lot of great comments and moved downhill from there. Congrats
Utah. I think you have a great chance of being an above average team in the PAC
year in and out. Not likely to have any undefeated seasons in a tougher
conference but I will be watching and hoping. It is realistic that they could be
in the championship game next year and possibly play in the Rose Bowl. I wish
they had been in the top 10 at the beginning of this year. They would have at
least been able to be in the NC talks with an undefeated season. I want a
non-BCS team in the NC game and I think BSU and TCU are the only ones who have a
shot. It would be great to see the Utes in a BCS game this year. I don't
teally think that this will have much effect on the Y's recruiting though. They
will get mostly the same athletes they would have gotten. I think the move to
independance and the teams they will play will be a plus in recruiting, just
like the PAC affiliation will have some effect for Utah
what more could the Utes have asked for? As a season ticket holder (hopefully I
can still afford it after Dr, Hill jacks the prices), I'm stoked. For the Cougar
fans that have shone there is some class in Provo, it's nice to read your
comments. For the Yners, WAAAAAH
This is great. I have no problem paying more for my season tickets. I would
gladly pay $15 more per ticket (a 50% increase). It is well worth it to see
better home games. I am going to hold off on any sort of
predictions for next year, particularly with half a season yet to be played.
Lets get by CSU tomorrow. CSU played their best game in 2 years last week.
With AFA looming next week, we cannot afford to take the game lightly.
everything on here is just speculation. ute fans are excited to get where we've
been trying to go for so long and we see the really, the sky is the limit for
this program. then people like sammyg come in, say something that's supposed to
bring us back down to earth, everything goes full circle and we're back to
dogging other programs again.utah is going to take a few licks here
and there but i think in this new pac 12 we can be real successful. now we'll
see how good coach whit really is. i have full confidence in him and the
direction this program is going. i'm excited to see how things shape out.as for no longer being a big fish in a small pond... i'd rather be a
fish in a big pond than a fish in no pond
What Utah has to play for:A division title.Home field
advantage (every conference game has meaning).A conference title.A Rose Bowl berth.A national championship.What
BYU has to play for:Contract extensions with ESPN.Mostly
away games with the top teams on their schedule.Gee, I wonder where
the top recruits including LDS kids will want to go to play college football?
Everyone should try to remember the three axioms of Change. 1)The only way to
improve is to change. 2)Change always costs. 3)Change is not always an
improvement.For those who haven't put two and two together Utah is $15
million behind every PAC 12 team in annual budget. Even more with USC and UCLA.
The big paycheck from TV? Won't catch up. Where does the difference come from
if Utah is to compete? The PAC 12 doesn't make it up for you...you do. Hill
has already warned everyone...this is going to cost and it's going to be steep.
Here is just a simple look at it. Say the budget requires $2 million more per
game just to get close in budget. 45,000 (15,000 are students) fans per game is
still $44 per fan per game. Higher tickets, higher food cost, higher
everything. TV is not going to make up the difference-it's even across the
schools. Plan on seeing tickets going to out of state rich boosters of all the
other teams. Family Football visits and Students are about get slapped with
Because of the snobbery of the PAC-10 BYU isn't in the mix also.
Are the Utes living right or what? This is really amazing. It could not have
worked out better for them. But now it's show time. I hope we still feel this
way five years from now.
I have a question for those of you who believe Utah will be at best mediocre, or
maybe even cellar-dwellers, in the Pac 10:If if had been BYU going
to the Pac 10, would your forecast for BYU's success, or lack thereof, be just
For those of you who are predicting that the Utes will be anywhere from mediocre
to cellar-dwellers in the PAC 10, please answer this for me:If it
had been BYU going to the PAC 10 (as many faithful BYU fans assumed 10-20 years
ago), would your prediction for BYU's performance be just as dire?
If Utah does well in PAC-12 play, they will, unfortunately, dominate recruiting
in Utah. However, I think they will be mediocre against steady PAC-12
chuckie | 8:04 p.m. Oct. 21, 2010I am so looking forwar to se who is
the cellar dwellar in the PAC... WSU, or the U of U.---------WOW chuks is back.Why look forward to next year. Your team
is already a cellar dweller as a mid-major.Congrats to the
UTES!Like the late Biggie Smalls once said...I am going,
going, back, back to Cali Cali.I for one, can't wait!!!Meanwhile let we have unfinished business over the next 6 weeks.Go
This is all good news for Utah - for next year.I am still looking
forward to how this year's team performs. I hope they, unlike so many of us
fans, keep their focus on what is happening now, rather than what may happen a
year from now.
Welcome back Chuck. Since your on the topic of basketball, hope the cougs enjoy
their games in the 900 seat WCC gyms. Ever been to Pepperdine? It's smaller
than my son's high school gym. Nice move!
Arch--I agree, Utah never was the Big fish in a little pond in the
MWC. They were a fish in the hunt, and yes, they will need to work to even have
a shot in their PAC division, let alone a PAC championship.Utah is
lucky to have a former coug in Kyle, but I think now he is a Ute, he better get
to preparing for a tough schedule.That is not a crystal ball my
friend. It is reality.
SDSU always thought they had a rivalry with BYU, So did Wyoming, but it was
always BYU, Utah.The rivalry will always be USC - UCLA.That won't change."Living Hard, and yet they can't beat BYU, in
football or basketball...So sad for the weakest team in Utah.#9, and #3 in Utah..."Magna, I'm thinking the way it is
worded, Utah is 9th in football, but behind BYU and USU in basketball...You might find humor in that, but it really is not that funny. Boylen
needs some OTJ training and fast.Who will Utah hire that can win in
the PAC.Majerus? Not likely.Connors? Loves his family too
much.Judkins? He has a great gig at BYU, and I'm not sure he is the
quality guy we need.Steve Alford might just be the move Utah could make,
if he is willing to leave UNM...Menace's opinion aside, I think
everyone will understand if I say the PAC.And there is no such thing
as "A" Utes.Lastly... nobody should be talking BCS or NC at this
point. Let's hope we win out, and then we talk.MMMmmmmmm, K?
sammyg | 10:57 p.m. Oct. 21, 2010 Are you a comedian?First you say:..."And now all of this hype about how the Utes are going
to do this and that next year. Very interesting indeed."Then you
say:"Now the reality. Kiss a BIG winning season goodbye! Your glory days
of being a big fish in a little pond are coming to an end. This will be greatly
discussed but next year at this time we will all remember this conversation and
question...was it really that good of a move?"So, I guess you are
the only one allowed to have a crystal ball??
Missed me VegasUte? "ugly head" is here for you.Since I've been
posting it's been very interesting to observe how Ute fans categorize and name
any and all that have a counter comment. And now all of this hype about how the
Utes are going to do this and that next year. Very interesting indeed.Well, congratulations to the Utes. Obviously your schedule will be greatly
improved and it will be nice to cash a bigger paycheck and provide better TV
coverage for every fan. All a big plus if you're a football fan in Utah, not
quite sure how the other sports will fare.Now the reality. Kiss a
BIG winning season goodbye! Your glory days of being a big fish in a little pond
are coming to an end. This will be greatly discussed but next year at this time
we will all remember this conversation and question...was it really that good of
a move?Maybe an 8-4 season next year and I've bumped that up since
last week. That will be as good as it gets so kiss that 'long' tradition (choke,
gag, hack) of BCS games goodbye. No NC2010.
USC/UCLA/ASU...top quality opponents! Don;t forget Montana State
i am excited for next year as it will be a challengeas we will faced 11
tough games. 9 pac 12 games plus pitt and byu on the road. we might lose more
games then byu but we won't be playing 5 leftover teams from the wac
Hey look, Chuckles the comedian is back. Funny how you disappeared after your
team started losing. How is your team doin'?Guess what Chuck, Utah
is #9 in the nation, not state. Want to make a wager on the Nov 27th game? I bet
Utah wins that game by at least 21 and will be no less than 11-1 for the
year.Next year they will be rockin' in the PAC 12. I know that you
will be so excited to see them play Jan 1st with the big parade with flowers
before the game. Utah will be equal sharing revenue with UCLA, USC, Stanford,
ect... and should soon be getting at least 14 mil in TV revenue alone.This is some pretty cool news. Unfortunately, you only have sour grapes and
crow pie to eat. You really should join the great buffet that Utah offers. You
won't have to be so sad.Anyway, GREAT to be a UTE fan!!!!P.S. Chuckles keep up the comedy. It is mildly amusing.
I think it is interesting that The BYU fans are being very supportive and
positive in the comments, but the Utah fans seem to look for ways to make
another stab at BYU, Both schools are great and if not for the religious
intolerance of the PAC 10, good chance they both would be PAC bound, which would
have been a great move for everyone, But instead BYU and UTAH parts ways and one
set of fans sure seems a lot more graceful about it.
Very sexy! If we play this right, we could have a huge home field advantage as
the only cold weather games may be in SLC. Yah baby yah!
Welcome to the PAC-12. All this Rose Bowl talk is a bit premature.
My first recollection of going to a Utah Ute game was in the mid-70s and playing
Oregon and thinking (as a kid) how can we be losing to a team called the
"Ducks." My dad, brother and I would walk to the games back then to the old Rice
Stadium. Those are great memories. It is just so incredible that Utah is now in
the same league (not division) as Oregon and the rest of the PAC schools.I just want to thank all of the great Ute coaches that came before to
help pave the way: Armstrong, Curtice, Howard, Stobart, McBride, Meyer and of
course - Coach Whit. And the players (that I remember watching):
Gomez, Rodgers, Monroe, Griffin, Larry Egger, Curt Jones, E. Tucker (Shaky is
the reincarnation), Eddie Johnson, Rowley, Scott Lieber (remember the Wisconsin
game?), L. Edwards (remember the Minnesota game?), both Anderson rbs, L. Scott,
Charlie Brown, L. Ellis, M. Fouts, . . . etc., etc. (The list goes on and on)
It is a great day to be a Ute.
Living Hard, and yet they can't beat BYU, in football or basketball...So sad for the weakest team in Utah.#9, and #3 in Utah...Basketball, what is the CBI, and why not even let the Utes play?Because they have been weighed, measured, and found lacking Pac invite and
all.Probably the Wac should have invited USU-- Someone not to
embarass the state.I am so looking forwar to se who is the cellar
dwellar in the PAC... WSU, or the U of U.Hey Boylen, get out of the
Utah basement before you try to play with the likes of SWBU!
I think Utah will do very well in their division. They should be contenders for
the Rose Bowl next year and in the hunt for many more years. Very good coaching,
excellent recruiting, and a strong AD combine to make for a powerful football
program. Go Utes.
Though I hate to admit it, this BYU fan is now envious of Utah. They are going
to dominate the south. I would have thought maybe a couple of years to build the
prestige but I think that they are going to have an immediate impact. The south
is not full of talented teams. The north will be the hardest to win. After this
year, I will bury the hatchet and wish you the best. Maybe I will even root for
you until you play BYU. Good luck.
Can't wait to fly into Utah for the Conference Championship Game in the end of
November/beginning of December....I hope there is snow and lots of it!Go Utes!
Last year at this time, who would have thought this would be a reality?
Because of the snobbery at USC, they will never consider a Utah being a
rival.Congrats to the Utes and their fans. The Pac10/12 did a godo job of
separating the teams and each division has a good mix of weak and strong. The
Utes could realistically challenge for a Pac 12 championship next year, at worst
just one or two losses in the Pac 12 (most likely just one, if any). Keep
in mind this is coming from a BYU fan. It's good to see Utah doing well, and it
will be good to see them do well in the future - it will only help the state of
Utah. Plus, it will help BYU's schedule in the future to play a good Pac 12
The only way this schedule gets any better next year is if (3) of the Utes (4)
conference road games include Colorado, ASU and Washington State which will be
the only gimmies for the first couple of years on the road.
What is the PAC? The Pacific Athletic Conference?It's the Pac 12,
as in Pacific 12 Conference.
Go Utes! I am so excited.
What a great day for the Utes and for the state. I really like how all of the
posts have been positive and supportive. Let's just hope SammyG doesn't rear his
ugly head.Congrats to the zoo for their six game agreement with ND.
Even though its a 4 and 2.Go Utes! Go Crimson!
Say all they want about traditional rivalries, I smell a USC vs Utah storm
brewing that will be huge!!
Utah definitely has their work cut out for them. The PAC has nowhere near the
parity that Utah is accustomed to.To assume that Utah or USC will
win the Southern division with regularity is a stretch. Both schools have great
programs but so do the Arizona schools. And it won't be long until UCLA and
Colorado are back up in the mix.There is no need for Ute fans to
exude arrogance...it is poor form. We should all be very happy today but lets
not let our heads grow.Carry the banner Tribe,Go
Great news for Utah, congrats.Now if only some of the crazies will
actually start loving their own program, instead of hating ours.
Does anybody else think the scheduling situation looks like an LSAT problem? I'd
hate to be the one figuring that out every year. 2 divisions, everyone plays
everyone else in the division, all CA schools play every year, all teams play in
LA at least once every other year. Sheesh!
Gooooooooooooooo UTES! Thanks BYU for letting us step on you to get to a BCS
So pretty much the south champion will either be Utah or USC. Thats a great
division for the Utes to land in. They have good results against most of the
north schools, although Oregon will probably be the winner half the time from
the north division, and thats one school the Utes will probably struggle
with.Good News!Go Utes!
Brian Johnson deserves an immediate raise.
this is a great accomplishment for the U - both for its athletic programs
(football especially) and as an institution. The U will be elevated nationally
both athletically and academically which is great for the state of Utah!
Not So Common Sense said:"No offense to the MWC intended, but as a
season ticket holder, there is little excitement for this weekend's matchup with
CSU. Next year this time we will be hosting a great game.Its
gonna feel more like the upcoming game with TCU every week."That
brings up an interesting question. Now that the "U" home games will be "great"
should the season ticket holders and regular attenders expect a huge increase in
ticket costs from the "U"? I hope not.
"Does that seem fair to anyone?" It's not about fairness, Utah is a
mid major Colorado isn't, also Utah has no compensatory fee for leaving their
current conference, Colorado does.The bottom line is this was the
deal, the ring only comes around once best grab it and hold on and make the best
of it. The difference between the escalating revenue vs. staying in the MWC for
the next 4 years is negliable.
So, if Utah draws Oregon next year they could play them twice (including the
conference championship)?So the Utes 2011 schedule is shaping up
like this:@ Pitt@ BYUvs Montana Statevs OregonUSC
(Home or away?)UCLA (Home or away?)Arizona (Home or away?)Arizona State (Home or away?)Colorado (Home or away?)CAL or
Stanford (Home or away?)Oregon or OR State (Home or away?)WA or WA
State (Home or away?)Conference game?Bowl game?You
guys have to beat up the PAC12 first year out and embarrass the BCS PLEEZ!!! How
good would that feel for everybody!
I am happy for Utah. I think it is great for the state of Utah that we have two
football teams that are going to bring in much more revenue. Getting quality football opponents in SLC and Provo will be tremendous
economically for the area--it will bring in millions of dollars to local
business and in tax revenues. Over the long run the programs will
continue to improve and the universities will develop into greater academic and
athletic institutions. I have absolutely no problem rooting for
both schools. When one school does well, it only serves to benefit the other.
Please do not have the attitude that you cannot root for both
schools (the exception is obviously when they play each other). But even then,
you can still root for both to do well and conduct yourself in a way that will
bring honor to both schools. I look forward to many wonderful
BYU-Utah football and basketball games in the years to come, and to watching
each of them develop new rivalries in their respective endeavors. May we as Utahns step up and support these fine schools. May we be proud of
their tradition and fine athletic performance.
The revenue sharing only applies to TV money, NOT bowl money. Utah will get its
conference split of ALL bowl money; plus they would get their 50% share from
going to a bowl game themselves. If Utah goes to any bowl game next year they
will see very little loss in revenue over this years $2 mil they get from the
MWC. If the U happens to see Roses next year they will be WAYYYYY ahead. Like
$8.5 million!!!The Las Vegas bowl is the PAC12's current LOWEST paying and
lowest tier bowl. Puts things in perspective a little.When Utah gets a 50%
share in 2012 they will still be getting at least $7mil in TV money alone. It
just gets better after that.GO UTES!!!
Its sooooo cool. The Utes don't need to win the conferene and not even the
division to have a chance to play in a BCS game. The Pac 12 with a conference
champ game will be a good candidate for two teams in the BCS each year, just as
the Big 12 and SEC have been. This year Utah would be the second team if the
rankings were final today. Oh but there's more for those out there with Ute
envy. They can finish third or 4th and be in the Alamo or Holliday bowl against
a top 15 team from a BCS conference. They would have to finish 5th in a two BCS
year to get the LV Bowl and play Boise State or TCU which would still be pretty
good. On the otherhand BYU as an independant, assuming they are not undefeated
would fill in the unfilled spots for the conferences that didn't have enough
qualifiers. That means a last place bowl like the Emerald or Motor City or
Toronto or Armed Forces Bowl. In a few years a .500 record in the LV bowl may
look pretty good.
It's amazing what good things have been happening for University of Utah
football since they got BYU grads as their university president and head
football coach. Good for U!
Based on how BYU's schedule is shaping up, after 2011 Utah and BYU will have
both risen above mid-major status. Both will play many/mostly BCS teams every
year and should have trouble coming close to going undefeated but should start
getting better recruits.College football in the state is going to
get better and better each year. It's going to be neat to have Utah in the
PAC-12 playing good teams and BYU playing good teams from all around the nation
each year.Go Utes and Cougars!
Thanks Mac, Urban and Whitt.GO UTES!!!!!
Good luck, Utes, I hope you represent the state well.While the
PAC-10 is more clearly a good conference this year, last year the MWC was
better. I think the Utes have a good chance to win the conference next year.
The AZ teams and UCLA are no good, so it'll be between SC and UofU most years.
I hope the Utes beat the "MWC" outta the Rams this weekend. Coach Witt has it
right. As Usual.
Wow, how great to see all the posters being so positive and amicable. Is this
April Fools Day or something? What happened to all the BYU haters from the Red
North? Hopefully gone forever! How can anyone disagree that getting out of the
MWC is like escaping from a long horrid prison sentence? Utah and BYU will have
to really step up their games (especially Utah in the non-football sports) in
their new situations. Obviously BYU will excel in the "Olympic" sports, but
watching both teams' football fortunes will be extremely enticing. Of course,
BYU will get slammed for its soft 2011 football schedule just as Utah, TCU,
Boise State, etc., had to live theirs down this year.
@YtxPat...I wonder what the "quest" will be after a few years of the Las
Vegas Bowl...After a few years of Las Vegas Bowl, BYU's quest
is now "Quest for a Bowl" --just any bowl.Good lucks, Cougs!!!
It's looking good for the Utes. It will be nice to let the rest of the country
that west coast football is more than USC and an occasionally good Oregon team.
Veritas,Thats been the plan all along. Next year Utah
gets nothing from the Pac 12, 2012 they 50% share, 2013 75%, and full share in
2014. Hill said Utah would basically lose about 1 million dollars by
joining in 2011, but it is obviously well worth it.
Congrats from a Cougar fan. Seems like a pretty nice fit. I just have one
favor to ask. Can you use some of that BCS money to get a new fight song?Seriously though, I hope Utah does well and represents the state with a
This will be interesting to watch.Utah is on one of its UP cycles.
They should be pretty competitive for the next couple of years and they are
getting USC on its way down. Couldn't ask for better timing on that one.Time will tell.
As an Aggie who also attended U of U, I say congratulations to the Utes. It
seems like things are just getting better and better for Utah. Go get em Utes.
Your success will just help elevate football around the state. Now if my Aggies
can just get invited (re-invited) to the MWC, I'll be very happy. The MWC would
really stablize the USU program and be a nice step forward for the Aggies.
Good luck Utes! If you are actually as strong as you think you are now this
time next year, how can you not dominate South?Look for my Y hat in
the stands against SC...not a Ute fan, but it just might have a shade of crimson
thanks to Shaky
Division Championship will go....UtahUtahUSC UtahUSCUtah Utahrepeat over and over2 team race for best in conference - just like it is now with tcu and Utah.
So the conference championship game will be played in December at the home field
of the highest ranked team. It will be a cold December game should the Utes or
Colorado (not likely) host a conference chamionship. Here's one Ute fan looking
forward to a snowy game.
Still a bit unclear on the revenue sharing...What happens when Utah
gets to a PAC-affiliated bowl game at the end of the 2011 season...do the Utes
forfeit that money too? What if it is a BIG bowl game? Has anybody seen any
details on this?
I like the decision to play the championship game at the home field of the
highest placed team. It follows the NFL model. It makes every conference game
meaningful because you are not only playing for a division title but for home
field advantage. To hoot with the weather! Football is meant to be played
outdoors. Many NFL teams have had to play playoff games in Green Bay, Wisconsin
and Buffalo, New York. The fans earn it by supporting their team and the team
earns it by winning cross over games. I love it!! It also bodes well for
expansion of RES. We are not going to sit by with a 45,000 seat stadium when we
have the chance to host the title game. I think Larry Scott is a great
commissioner. He knows how to build a consensus.
This is a best-case-scenario for the Utes. A spot in the southern division
means annual exposure in recruit-rich Southern California.Also, the
Utes can compete right away and may find themselves playing for the Rose Bowl
next December!Go Utes!
The article says that Utah won't get a full share of the TV revenue for two
years because they're coming from a non-Aq conference. Does that mean Colorado
gets a full share from the get-go? Does that seem fair to anyone?But otherwise, it looks like the Utes got exactly what they wanted. From a
true blue BYU fan, congratulations.
Things will get tougher, but I would think any athlete would welcome that. I
hope fans will welcome it too. BYU won the WAC almost every year for 25 years
but frankly it really didn't mean that much and fans got very little
satisfaction out of it. Winning the PAC-12 will be a great challenge which is
worth building for even if it takes years. Here's to a new challenge!
"Revenue sharing of a yet-to-be-negotiated new television deal, which could
exceed $170 million per year when it begins in 2012, will be split evenly by the
12 schools. As part of Utah's deal to join the league – going
to a Bowl Championship Series league from a non-automatic qualifying conference
– the Utes won't receive a full share of television revenue until
2014."===It will be split evenly by the 12 schools in 2012, but Utah
will not get a full share until 2014.Huh?===Good
luck Utes. I would love to see both Utah's and BYU's athletic programs do well
as they go their seperate ways.I would have loved to see BYU in the
PAC, but I agree with Ernest T, Prop 8 killed any chance of that.I
do believe that both teams will be far better off in the future than if they had
stayed in the MWC.Kyle has his work cut out for him, but he's a
former coug. He can do it!
From downtown Akiachak Alaska:WAY TO GO UTES!You will do
I personnally like this arrangement.I will be able to see more Utah
games on FSN and ABC.Now, let's win 6 more regular games this year
and take care of this BCS business first.
Just keeps getting better and better for the Utes. #9 RankingUndefeatedPac-12 in 2011Same division as USC/UCLAEqual
revenue sharing as of 2014Get your tickets now Ute fans. Oregon @
Utah for the Pac-12 Conference Title game in Rice Eccles Stadium. USC not
eligible. It's Utah's for the taking!
As a BYU grad and cougar fan, I must say good luck to you Utah and please make
the state of Utah proud! I've got no ill-will or hard feelings towards the U, I
think they have got a great opportunity and they certainly did what was in their
best interest. Good luck next year, it should be a lot of fun to watch!
Utah fans seem to be excited about the prospects of going to warmer climates to
play. Would you please do us all am favor and just move?Good luck Utah! I
wish you the best In your new endeavors..... And... Go Cougars.
Congrats to the Utes. I am both a Utah fan and BYU fan. I cant wait to see Utah
crash the Pac-(12) next season. I hope Utah whips that crud out of TCU when they
come to SLC. Good luck Utah, it seams both Utah and BYU finally out grew the mid
level status that only the WAC and MWC could muster! Hers to watching the holy
war/First Duel on ESPN next year!!!!
@ Snarkthank you for your kind comments. you are a breath of fresh
air compared to the trolls we usually get around here. This is
really exciting! The guys on 1280 were discussing how the pac-12 championship
game would be played at the highest rated team's home stadium, meaning it could
be at RES! Man! That is sweet! It always is, but now more so, a
GREAT DAY TO BE A UTE!!!!!!
The Yewets will do very well in the Southern Division. I have them picked to
win it next year...
Good luck Utes. After this quest, what will it be after 4 or 5 years of the
Good Luck Utes! I wonder what the "quest" will be after a few years of the Las
From a loyal BYU fan, I am thrilled for Utah to be in the same division with USC
and UCLA. Utah will just get stronger. Make the State proud. You will do
Congrats Utes!!!! Cant wait for the games next year.
Fully Invited!!!Welcome to sunny AZ and Southern Cali!Go
I like it. Though I would have preferred an 8 game conference schedule to a 9
game one.So the Utes 2011 schedule is shaping up like this:@
Pitt@ BYUvs Montana Statevs OregonUSC (Home or away?)UCLA (Home or away?)Arizona (Home or away?)Arizona State (Home or
away?)Colorado (Home or away?)Not bad, with three games
TBD.Now, it's time to win the MWC!
Gotta love being a UTE!!!!We get to go to play USC, UCLA, etc every
year now. Our home games will be so much more exciting with quality teams coming
in every week. No offense to the MWC intended, but as a season
ticket holder, there is little excitement for this weekend's matchup with CSU.
Next year this time we will be hosting a great game.Its gonna
feel more like the upcoming game with TCU every week. Gotta love
being a UTE!!!!