Too bad Hill is gone, but hopefully the Cougars can get someone better to
replace him. I wonder how long Anae will last.
I don't know if I agree with letting him go. Is it really his fault because of
the youth and injuries to this team. BYU fans need to start looking at this more
realistic and relax. Ute fans need to go away!
I thought Hill did a very good job over the years. Good luck coach in the future
and thanks for the good years. Having played under Schmidt, I think there are
many other areas that also need attention.
I'm really sorry to see this. I just watched a tape of the game with Utah State
and there is plenty of blame to go around. Nobody is clicking on all calendars
and certainly key injuries have played a part.
Hmm...feels like a knee jerk reaction to a bad start. I hate to see anyone lose
their jobs based on a partial season, especially when they have been successsful
in the past. On the other BYU looks really inept, but on both sides of the ball.
Jeez, what next?? the wheels have come off this program. Starting to feel like
the Croatan (however you spell that) years all over again. Hey maybe we can get
How about revamping the recruiting standards? There are many very talented
athletes outside of Timpview that could also contribute to the Y.
This is a shame. No assistant coach should ever lose his job in the middle of
the season. This is just treating the symptom and not the cause of the Cougars
problems. Has this happened before with BYU assistant coaches? Just curious.
What about the OC?
Can coaches fire players? Ashworth gives up and drops balls.
Bronko talked about the problems in special teams. Special teams stunk. How
can he fault the defence without faulting himself for the poor play on special
teams. He is the special team coach. Now we have coach Hill taking the
accountability that belongs to Bronko.
Averaging less than 16 pts a game and they can the defensive coordinator? When
has defense been a priority?
Robert Anae should be next. The most predictable offense on the planet. Hill was
even better then Anae.
How does Robert Anae still have a job? Nevermind a freshman QB. He is the most
predictable play caller ever. Why does he continually run the ball on third down
in the first half? Anae should have been let go years ago.
The problem is the offense, not that the defense was stellar but at least the
defense held its own in the second half in four of BYU's five games. It's also too bad that BYU is losing an African-American coach as well. This
won't help bring better athletes to BYU.I think both Hill and Anae
have places in BYU's program, perhaps not in their present positions but I would
hate to lose either.Of course, I wish Coach Hill the best, and if
doing this, makes his life better, and that of his family, I wish him the best.
The reports are that there was dissension in the ranks. That can't be tolerated
- especially from a coach.
This story showed up in my inbox as breaking news. I subscribe to breaking news
to get notices of imported events, like the trade center attacks, local
government events, life changing wildfires. How does anything having to do with
BYU football rise to that level?
Pretty stupid to do it right now in my opinion.
Everybody's assuming it's because of the Y's poor performance over the last
several games. The reasons could be something totally different.
As mentioned earlier, your treating the symptoms and not the root problem -
Bronco.Should have kept them all until the end of the season and
then make a whole sale change.
Don't be so naive folks. The decision let Hill go was made weeks ago and they've
already lined someone up to replace him.
I think Hill as actually gotten Cougar defenders to overachive. Not this season
but then everyone is underachieving this season. Is anyone going to be held
accountable for the 2 QB decision? It is the resason that Heaps and his
receivers have only gotten about a fall's camp worth of reps to this point. I
wonder if there was more tension between Mendenhall and Hill because Bronco is a
defensive guy whereas he probably gives his offensive coaches a longer leash.
With this move and recent non-LDS player suspensions and transfers
it is looking more and more like BYU sports is becoming an all-LDS deal. Maybe
given the Code and the culture of Provo in general that is the way it should be.
Coach Hill is the sacrificial lamb and I for one feel bad for him. Forcing him
to resign mid-season is incredibly disrespectful and unprofessional.All, let me repeat ,all of the coaches at BYU this year have not done their
part.It seems to me that this is a cowardly way of diverting attention to
the real problems at BYU and acting like that now that Coach Hill is gone, that
everything will be okay. If anything, I would think that the offensive
coaches should have been more on the firing line than the defensive coaches.
Coach Mendenhall on the pre-game show stated that BYU had to score more points
than the other team, meaning a lot of points. Didn't see that happen.Coach Hill we wish you nothing but success in the future.
And you can bet they have been considering a replacement for Mr. Anae and the
search is on. You don't let someone go until you have a contract in place for
the replacement. Pure business. Nothing wrong with that.
I don't believe this was a scheme issue. It's a talent issue. I can remember
back when LaVell Edwards was head coach. It always seemed that either the
skilled positions were new or the Offensive line was new. Never both. On
Defense, the Line was young when the linebackers were veterans. That balance
seems to be lost. With a new quarterback, we should have a veteran O-Line and
at least 1 running back to provide extra protection while the new guys learn.I'd be looking at the recruiting efforts as much as the D or O
I think if anyone needs to be fired it's Jake Heaps. BYU simply cannot survive
another 3 years with him as quarterback.
With a freshman QB, no matter how talented (or not), you're going to forgive the
offense more than the D. The numbers speak for themselves on both sides. The
only positive on the whole team so far is that Heaps hasn't been hurt. Sorry to
see Hill go, we would all have liked to see him be successful here. There has
been only one other assistant I remember being let go over the last twenty years
during an actual season, but the condition of the team is pretty serious.
Something had to happen. I can't imagine how great the pressure the whole
department is feeling from outside, as well as their own frustration to win.
Anae may very well be the next in line on the chopping block....
I'm sure the Dnews will never post this but....Don't you think a
little more thought should have gone into the decision to fire a minority coach?
What does this say to the already troubled recruiting efforts?And
to think, this type of exposure will be on ESPN for the all the Nation to see
Bronko and Anae both need to go!
How about Bronco? Perhaps he needs to step down or be fired. To loose to
teams like USU and Nevada is unexcusable. I wonder if there will be a PPI
scheduled between Bronco and his superiors?
There was an article in the DN just a few years ago about what a great,
up-and-coming coach he is. How sad for Bronco to throw him under the bus when
the defense is the least of this team's problems.
I was at the game last night. Total lack of excitment, energy by the cougs. They
for the most part play like girls. No emotion, no energy on or off the side
lines. Maybe Bronco should make winning a higher priority. I realise he is
trying not ruin Jakes confidencee by minimizing the impotant of each game. That
does not requires him and the other coaches to be emotionally dead. Show some
heart BYU. Utah State try winning with a little class. Enjoy a well desereved
victory but keep the gloating down. It is only 1 game and you have not looked at
that great this year. University of Utah fans. Who have you played this year?
You are just now getting into the heart of your schedule. Talk after you have
done something. Not now. BYU better days are ahead. Head up. smile and get
Admittedly I'm not a BYU fan, but I'm a little surprised that Bronco would do
this. Having watched BYU play several times this year, I don't believe the
problem is as much to do with the defensive coordinator as it is the athletes.
It just doesn't seem like BYU has a very athletic defense, and I don't think
there would be very many coordinators that would succeed with this current
group.It wasn't that long ago that Jaime Hill's defense held some
fairly potent offenses like Oregon State and Oklahoma in check. Of course that
was with a different / better set of players. But it seems that Bronco needed to
place the blame somewhere and it fell on coach Hill. That's a shame.
Hello people! Don't you think the coaching staff knows something you don't know?
You aren't in their meetings, so you can speculate all you want, but will never
know the true reasons for any actions they take.
I made a prediction on facebook during the game that a coaching shakeup would
happen. However, I was pushing for Anae and his insistance to throw the ball on
1st, 2nd, and then surprise them with a run on 3rd, or run a shorter than needed
route. Poor Hill, I don't think it was all his fault, but that's the way the
And so it has begun.........Good luck Jamie!
I doubt there's a new defensive coordinator coming. Bronco will be the D coach
the rest of the way, in fact if not by title. There's probably someone on the
fringes who will join the official ranks, perhaps replacing whoever becomes the
"It is the resason that Heaps and his receivers have only gotten about a fall's
camp worth of reps to this point."It wouldn't matter how many reps
they get, they are just a bad team. For sample, Heaps and Co. have 90 reps in
the last two games yet they are averaging around 13 points per game only because
of late scores against the 2nd team defense.Now compare that to the
significantly less reps by Cain/Wynn over the last two games; the team is
averaging 56 points per game.BYUs defense has been getting spanked
regularly since 2008 so I could see why he was fired.
What do you expect, you give up 260 yards rushing and almost 29 points per game.
That is pathetic. I have never been a fan of Anae's play calling and this season
his ineptness is showing through, not to mention that the O-line hasn't helped
him out very much. If the team doesn't start playing with some passion this is
going to be a long season.
I cant believe how many people want Bronco out... After how well this team has
played over the past 5 years, so many people have already given up. They
shouldnt point to the past to make excuses for the present, but still... Its a
bad year with a lot of young players that are getting experience and hopefully
very soon will get their confidence back and get used to winning again.
I love how all the Ute and Boise fans are saying to fire Bronco and demote
Heaps. Bronco and Heaps will both be fine.As far as
firing Hill mid season... The future is now. No need to delay the inevitable.As far as ESPN wanting a refund. I'm sure the low point in BYU history
still had a higher TV rating than any Ute game will have this season. In part,
because Ute fans can't resist a chance to root against BYU. Keep it coming Ute
fans, we appreciate the ratings boost. BYU will only get stronger
recruits because of the ESPN deal. Just ask Boise.The future is
bright. The present is another story.
From reading all of the posts here, it appears that the wheels are truly comin'
off. I'm surprise that most tds fans didn't see this coming even
before the season started. Utah is going to roll the tds SO bad.
It will be Utah's "farewell gift."
So who gets fired because players have not been prepared to step in and
replace the departed seniors?
Sacrifical lamb? huh?Did any of you see BYU's defense last year?
Florida state, Utah, TCU, and many other teams ran through the Cougars like a
hot knife through butter.to call this a knee jerk reaction is to
deny all what Hill has done (his incompetence). This change has been
long overdue. The Cougars defense has been horrible for years. Changes need to
be made. If the offense doesn't improve, Robert Anae should be
next.Sorry coaches, it's up to you to recruit and teach the players
that will make you be successful. If that isn't happening, then find another
There is more to like about BYU football than winning games. I think we lose
some of that with the dismissal of Hill in this way.
Hill has been good for BYU but I believe he is ready to move on. He tried to get
into the mix for the SDSU head job but was unsuccessful. He has shown brilliance
in some instances, like against Oregon State last year. Also, by being fired he
gets a full contract payout. This is how it works in sports and often in
business. But for a guy with talent and aspirations, he's probably been at BYU
long enough and personally needed a change. And maybe he was planning a move and
it was showing in his attitude. The problem with that is the timing doesn't
always work out as one planned. Like he said, it's just the business they are
in. I'm no Ute homie, but I still think Kyle is one of the best
defensive coaches in college football today. My guess is that Bronco will resume
being DC, which he loves. But I'm not clued in on the latest, so maybe something
else is in the works.
This is what big boy programs do when a debacle is taking place. You make
changes. Good to see BYU acting like a big boy program and not a chuch calling!
BTW, if Bronco doesn't take over DC, I think he will surprise us with a young
guy like Nick Howell. Not that our LBs have been playing great, but it's not
easy to read Bronco's mind. As for Anae, predictability is a BYU
tradition. I keep thinking that Lance Reynolds is better, but he's been in the
both for a long time now. One thing about Anae though, in spite of my agreement
that he is a terrible OC, is that he is one of the finest people to ever coach
at BYU. However, the job has been over his head from day one. I wish there was a
family friendly way of handling that one. No ideas yet...
This isn't exactly a mid-season firing. The football season realistically is
over for BYU even though they may win some games and could still get to a bowl.
The tell-tale sign was the end of the sell out streak last week. I
expected BYU to compete last night and win. USU was depleted, is not a very
good team and they still took BYU behind the woodshed. BYU had no defense. The
only thing that stopped drives was when the opponent made mistakes. While that
worked for BYU in the past, it won't work in the present.As long as
BYU comes prepared and beats the U, I will be happy. That is all that is left
that matters. Start preparing now. BYU needs to build a defense, get the
recievers to catch the ball and build confidence. They do those things and they
still should be able to beat Utah.
Fire mid-season? And fire the D-coordinator? The only thing about the defense
that has improved the past five years is the play and recruiting of the DBs,
thanks to Coach Hill. BYU couldn't have picked a worse way to embark upon
this independence experiment. For the Y fans who think that BYU draws big
audiences, go ahead and look up the nielsen ratings for the Y games that have
been on ESPN. Their past five bowl games have had LESS ratings than Utah's bowl
TV ratings. Utah State was missing TWELVE of their players who played
significantly vs. Oklahoma. And they couldn't score a TD against USU's defense
who got lit up by SDSU.Good luck with independence. If you don't
see the writing on the wall of where the Y football program is heading, then
you're just in denial. The future is not bright.And if I'm Coach
Rose, I'm mad that I'm now in the WCC because of a bad football team.
Re: VegasCoug | 3:16 p.m. "This is what big boy programs do
when a debacle is taking place."Big boy programs don't let
performance issues progress to a level that results in mid-season firings.Big boy program.... phhttttt.BYU is little more than a
mid-major-independent curiosity on a national level. Maybe good enough for a
few Thurday, Friday night tv games, but not good enough for the Saturday big
This was a little too knee jerk for me. I suspect that Jaime and Bronco had
major disagreements and this was the final blow. Maybe Jaime already had a place
to go and had voiced that opinion. Good luck coach HIll. We appreciate
I would be surprised if this had anything to do with Football...
Prior to this news, I was willing to say that the cougs might pick up 2 other
wins this season. Now I am CONFIDENT in saying they will finish 1-11 with Utah
waxing them en route to another BCS bowl.
SO it looks like it is officially the time to panic.
Ok, so Hill was responsible for bad defense.Who is responsible for
bad offense?Who is in charge of bad special team play?Who?
Elk Hair Caddis,Well said.
Bad move!! Anae should have been fired not Hill. Bronco has lost it big time!
Fans and media, alike love to point out that “bad” play-calling is
to blame for the current offensive woes. The trouble is, lots of GOOD play calls
are failing. How can a team fail to get 1 yard on the ground in multiple
attempts? How can a team fail to get 4 yards through the air on multiple
attempts? How can so many TD and 3rd down passes be dropped? What should the
coaches call when the players don’t do anything well? Play calling is not
the problem. Execution is.As for the firing of Hill, it’s
unfortunate and untimely, but I have no doubt that this decision has been
brewing for a while. Mendenhall is nothing if not deliberate in his
decisions.Need I remind people that BYU has gone 11-2, 11-2, 10-3,
and 11-2 the last four years? Bronco turned this program around in 1 6-6 season
after the disaster of Crowton. Are we so spoiled and unrealistic that we cannot
afford the coach the time necessary to fix this?
So who gets fired because players have not been prepared to step in and replace
the departed seniors?-----------------Jamie Hill
While I think there is a lot of problems to go around you don't change horses in
the middle of the river unless you want to drowned! I guess that is what Bronco
and company want to do. This will wipe out any desire left in the defense.
Bronco as DC wonder if he will have co-defenses? Anae will be next to follow
next week the Bronco after TCU.
Knowing Bronco and Tom H, there must be a lot more to it than poor performance
on the field. I suspect there may be some personality differences and/or
attitude issues that would warrant mid-season canning.
"...was given the choice to resign or be fired.""...was named BYU's
defensive coordinator in 2008, came to BYU in 2006..worked as the secondary
coach before being elevated to coordinator."I'm not at all certain I
am comfortable with BYU pursuing the same path as other collegiate teams. Firing
like this for a team's recent poor winning record is what is common in OTHER
schools. Since BYU takes pains to be a school elevated and above the
rest of the world in action, it is distressing to see them take the low road on
this. It is obvious that he must have performed acceptably in
seasons past. Why let WINNING be the only measure of a
Gazpacho | 4:06 p.m. Oct. 2, 2010 "Mendenhall is nothing if not
deliberate in his decisions." What? Bronco hasn't even decided who
the starting lineup is. The decision to terminate Assistant Coach Hill's
services is probably the ONLY decision he has made this year.For the
past 5 years and so far this year, Mendenhall has repeatedly demonstrated that
he takes no responsibility for the shortcomings of his team (performance or
incidents off the field).What happened to Bronco's "football is
priority #5" speech? Based on the results so far this year, football probably
is close to #5 on everyone's priority list. Instead of firing assistant
coaches, they should all be given a performance bonus.
Mayfair | 4:15 p.m. Oct. 2, 2010 "Since BYU takes pains to be a
school elevated and above the rest of the world in action, it is distressing to
see them take the low road on this."Apparently you are not aware of
BYU's contribution to dismantling the WAC and throwing Utah State under the bus
all in the name of "looking out for BYU's interests."
Although the defense certainly has looked poorly coached at times, the real
coaching problem is the offensive play calling. It is unfortunate that Hill
becomes the scapegoat because Bronco is unwilling to question Robert Anae, who
simply does not know how to call plays. I have never seen a team so ineffective
at utilizing personnel. Jacobson, among others, has the speed that should
result in short/mid-range completions over the middle followed by
yards-after-catch. Instead he is sent only on deep routes or 5-yard curl routes
that result in no yards after catch.Watch the way other spread offenses (e.g.
Utah) are executed and notice how effective short quick slants and other
crossing patterns are at gaining YAC.
There are lots of problems with BYU’s program but the main one is the lack
of talent. You could put a top quality Boise or Utah staff with those players
and the results would be the same.When your offensive MVP is a guy
named after pasta, you will not score much.Those who think ESPN will
help BYU’s recruiting, are up in the night. Players want to play on
successful programs and BYU will never be that as an independent. Coaching changes are best made after the season. Good luck JH.
I believe this is a good move in the right direction for BYU, the stats for the
defense can back me up.1) rushing yards allowed, 118th in the
nation2) passing yards allowed, 28th in the nation (oh wait, everybody BYU
has played doesn't need to pass, do they?)3) 102nd in total yards
allowed4) 86th in the nation in points allowedYa, they change
needed to happen and Bronco at defensive coordinator has always done a good job.
For all of Bronco's supposed great management skills and drawing on the best
management models have to offer I am missing this one- I supose we could go with
firing someone will motivate others but I doubt it in this case and motivated
coaches does not translate into motivated players or improve their skill levels-
this one baffels and is in many ways not in keeping with general BYU issues of
avoiding open displays of possible contention in the system- will be interesting
to see what else emerges over the next few days
Frustrating season for sure. But I'm not going postal or Ute. I'm going to
weather this storm and see it through. I don't want to ever be accused of being
a fair weather fan. The coaches will work out all issues on the field and in the
meeting room and we will be back to peak performance.
Bronco will probably take over as DC so he can strengthen his resume for next
I wouldn't be surprised in the next couple days to maybe see Anae get fired and
Doman or a new guy take over as OC
Too bad, the one non-LDS/African American coach is gone. More white, Mormon will
not improve the defense. I'm not sure that anyone can improve the D for BYU,
except that the quality of opponent is getting worse (exception of U and TCU).
I, for one, actually think it is refreshing to see Bronco act like a head coach
here. The coaching may have nothing to do with the poor performance of the
defense but continuing to do the same is yielding the same poor results. I have
been critical of Bronco but I still think he is good for BYU football. There is
no disputing that he has cleaned up the program. Although I am surprised that
he's replacing the DC in mid season, I think any change is a good thing when
you're at rock bottom. Now I think he needs to follow through and change out
the OC position also. I think doing this mid season is out of character
for Bronco so I suspect there is more to this than poor performance of the
defense. I am confident we'll get more details in due time.
This is a travesty! Robert Anae has got to go NOT Coach Hill. Mr Motivation,
Coach Mendenhall should have fired himself before firing Coach Hill.
The tds and Utah could not be going in more opposite directions. Utah is joining the strongest conference in the country and the tds is going
Indy. The tds can't buy a victory and Utah is undefeated. Utah has the Rose Bowl in its sights. The tds has no bowl this year in
its sights and no bowl affiliations when they're Indy.It a great
time to be a Ute.I can't imagine what it's like to be a Cougar with
no teeth or claws.
Sad to see Hill used as a scapegoat.
@ Observation-ist : The O-line is full of Veterans, and there was a great
running back, he just could not wait till marriage to start a family. The
problem is Jake is young was should be redshirted… Riley was not the ideal
QB, but at least he knew the system by watching it. Anae is not a good OC. He
never has been.@ Everyone: The defense is soft. Even the
“studs” on the team are getting blown back. Hill was not adjusting
his defense to the skill on the team. Bronco got complacent with his coaching
and this is what he got. That is why you will never see Whit, up at the UoU
relaxed. He knows that if he is not pushing his team and other coaches I
can only hope that things can change for the better. BYU football is far too
Big national to have years like this.
Defense has out preformed the offense. It was a mistake to fire Hill before
Anae. Hill made good use of the limited talent he had while Anae has squandered
the little talent on the offensive side of the ball. His inept play calling has
totally rendered the offense impotent. I'd be curious to know why Hill was
singled out over Anae.
First, Thank to coach Hill for the games where his defensive plans worked well
in the past few years. Like he said he will land on his feet. Second, to everyone jumping on Mendenhall. Head coaches are
supposed to manage the asst. coaches. Mendenhall has been TOO detached. All this
year the defense had been poor in the first 1/2 then adjusted and done better.
Those adjustments were probably made by Mendenhall? The defense was
not working. BYU should (inspite of injury and youth) hold teams like NV and USU
to less than 20 points. BYU usually defends AF well. They did not. FSU is
proving to be a decent team. There has been NO pressure on the
opposing QBs. The run defense has been a sieve. See if the defense
improves against SDSU and TCU. If it does not then you can jump on Mendenhall.
At least Bronco is directly involved now. If Anae gets
fired who replaces him? Who on the team could replace him as a better play
caller this year? BYU's defense has be poor and the offense
predictable for years. BYU will not be successful without fixing
those 2 problems.
The defense has played horribly and has looked unprepared on a consistent basis.
Mendenhall has a great defensive mind. I'm sure he saw something he
didn't like in the scheming, preparation and/or attitude in the defensive
players.There is definitely a problem when our secondary
consistently gets burned for big plays and our defense as a whole is not playing
assignment sound football.
Ahahahahahahahaha! Steven S Jarvis They also just need
to have Alabama wear BYU jerseys and that may not even allow them to get a win.
No question the Y's defense stinks but it has stunk ever since Bronco took over.
I'm sorry for Hill - hate to see this happen to anyone in the middle of the
season. I never remember a firing ever taking place at the Y in the middle of
the season and rarely after the season. I suspect things are getting quite hot
in the athetic dept at the Y these days. I really don't blame the coaches unless
they are simply not recruiting well. I suspect it is the BYU administration that
has raised the bar in recuriting so high for academics and the honor code that
the coaches can't get any quality player to come to Provo. If you want good fire
side speakers ok but take the fall out of a terrible team record wise as a
result. You take a look at the personel the Y has on defense and you see why
they are so terrible - small, slow and unathletic. There are no Rob Morris, or
Brady Popingas out there.
If you didn't see this coming look at the sutle hints, particularly after the
AFA game and the comments that Bronco made. He gave Hill a rope to hang himself
with and Hill did so. The defense is terrible, talent maybe is gone, but the
defense has also never looked so lost at all times on the field. That being
said, the offense is terrible, the play calling is not what I would consider
condusive for developing a QB. How many 3rd and longs does Heaps have to be in,
some are probably his fault, but the running game is being largly ignored again.
Heck with Harvey the run came with after thoughts of "oh yeah I guess we should
mix it up a little." I was on Anae's case last year, though you couldn't hear it
unless you were at my house.
Maybe with a couple of offers pending from other schools like Portland State
where Jaimie was an assistant years ago was a distraction...who really knows???
But BYU Has never been Defensive Secondary country ...!!!EVER!!!... to begin
with. We're not Alabama and we are not in the SEC...so we don't draw the talent
in the secondary. The Burn in the backfield is just something we live with...
Something that we have to overcompensate somewhere else for. We live and die by
the pass...NOT THE RUN...the pass is what gets us in the points faster...It's
always been our Trump. In another related line about execution someone from
Springville questioned my drawing Anae as a run oriented Coach when Heaps threw
almost sixty passes vs 25- running plays. It's not the numbers that
matter...it's the type and complexity of the passing plays that Anae orhestrated
that matter. His running game for various reasons is no longer viable...So I
don't see 5 and out as a real viable comback strategy in the passing game. Anae
just doesn't have the Aerial plays that his players need to make a difference.
Again, bad decisions by Bronco1) should not have fired Hill
mid-season (does he not know who his coaches are before the season begins? How
much respect are the players going to give their coaches now? - the players will
now blame everything on the coaching)2) Anae is more responsible for
the losing streak. The offense could only muster 1 td against the 1st and 2nd
string aggie defense. Not going to win any more games if you cant score.3) Remember the fable of the mouse and the lion? BYU should have let
Hill depart under circumstances that doesnt appear that he is being blamed for
the horrible year. In a couple years, this may come back to haunt the cougars if
they ever have to face a team coached by Hill, or if they want to get another
D-Coordinator with some type of connection with Hill. Oh well, leave
it to Bobblehead Mendenhall to make silly decisions.
JNA | 5:13 p.m. Oct. 2, 2010 Well said. If Hill was not getting the
job done, he should have retained his DB duties--which Bronco thought was good
enough to promote him in the first place--and Mendenhall could have assumed
play-calling duties. I am convinced that BYU's offensive success
over the past 4 seasons was a result of having enough talent to cover up how
awful the play calling has always been. Consider this, from 2006-2009, BYU
had1) 2 NFL QBs2) 3 NFL RBs (4 if Manase Tonga is in the
league)3) 2-3 NFL TEs (Harline was just not an NFL-type TE but was among
the best BYU has ever had)4) AUSTIN COLLIE5) a number of pro-caliber
offensive linemen.Though you can correctly argue that BYU is less
talented this year, a competent coaching staff could do much better with this
Ref: Blue Rampage & Steven S. Jarvis Agreed. Anae is a nice guy and BYU
can still beat not only Utah but possibly TCU also...That would be sweet....But
let's face the music and pull the plug on the O.C. early and get the staffing
situation corrected that is badly needed and get an early start on the 2011
prep. There is opportunity in this situation...but someone needs to reach out
and grab it.
I'm huge BYU fan...1) Recruiting very bad. Forget the Hype!
Character and assignment cannot completely replace speed. Why does Whittingham
win? Speed. Fault Bronco.2) Receivers dropping balls all over the
field. Fault? Bronco and Anae.3) Lousy play calling. Fault Anae.
The only time I saw BYU throw it as many times was in the Crowtow era. Sign of
desperation. How about short methodical passes slowly marching down the field.
Why lose downs on these repetitive long passes that the receivers drop
anyway.4) Slowest defense ever. Can't catch anyone running around
them. Lousy recruiting again. Fault Bronco and Hill.5) There had
better be another reason for firing Hill. Bronco you are just if not more
accountable. Anae as well. You guys might think about this. If it doesn't get
fixed Holmoe will have to fire you too.
Bronco, the genious, has lost it.Funny how wall above average players the
last few years made him look great. Now that they're average he's suddenly not
so awesome anymore.
I was listening to ESPN radio or something. Trevor Matich (center on the
national championship team and former NFLer) was one of the radio personalities.
They asked him about the "firing" of Hill.He said some insight
things though I'm not sure I agree with all of them.He said BYU is
well coached and that it seemed to him Hill wasn't getting it done. He says
BYU's players aren't "next level" type of players and quality coaching is
crucial to them winning. Basically he seemed to be backing Bronco.I
really don't like the timing however. Hopefully, there are things going on
behind the scenes that making this parting of ways a good thing (and for both
parties). I hope that isn't because Hill is being made the scapegoat for what
has happened. I think since BYU is a church sponsored school and the
church itself has had a peculiar history in regards to African-American
membership, that any bad press in this area (of firing the African-American
coach) can be problematic in BYU's recruiting efforts and with BYU's general
perception in this area.
"I will join another team in a couple of weeks." There is more going
on here then a win loss record. Perhaps Hill already had a new position lined up
for next year and had given notice. "Bronce, a friend of mine wants me to coach
with him next year and I have accepted the position. I'll stick around throught
the remainder of the year if you want me to." (We accept your resignation
effective immediately). Otherwise there is no way he has a new coaching position
lined up in 12 hours on a game day.I remember when Bronco switched
from DC to head coach. Some less than motivated offensive players quit the team.
They knew what Bronco demanded, and were not willing to make the commitment.
Interested to see how the defensive players react to the change.Bronco made some comments during Fall camp regarding enjoying coaching special
teams. I wondered if he would take a bigger role.
I would like to hear Bronco in his interviews say that he believes his team will
be a contender to WIN. Saying that the outcome of any game is unimportant...is
absolutely the wrong words to come out of a head coach's mouth. I
support the decision to have Hill leave. As a ticket holder, we needed to see
that someone would be held accountable. A few other heads may roll.BYU is a wonderful school. They will pull out of this. I hate the drama. But
then Utah is so boring right now. We hate to take all the press and front page
headlines. Go Cougars!
Would have fired the OC before the DC. BYU's offense is anemic.
how come our receivers never seem to be open?
The ONLY question left for ybu this season...Who will lose the
byu - new mexico battle, not only for the worse team in the league, but worse
team in the nation!GO LOBOS!
Was this the right choice by Mendenhall? Was Jaime Hill the real problem or was
he made a Scapegoat??? Who knows. Everything happens for a reason. The BYU
football program is in disarray. I firmly believe how BYU handled its quest for
football independence making "under the table" deals here and there to NEVER be
#2 to the UofU in the state of Utah, and never be outdone by Utah, especially in
football. Now it has come full circle.I firmly believe in karma,
what goes around comes around. Pride and arrogance won't help you succeed in
life, humility will, try that for a change. Practice what you preach.
1) Dissension was known among coaches and players in August.2) Jaime
Hill is forceful about his opinion3) Robert Anae was not hired by
Bronco but by the administration, no way he gets chopped that fast but he will
go at one point.4) Bronco is in charge and not in danger of being
fired. BYU has been very competitive, he toes the company line. 5)
Bronco had enough power to fire Hill midseason (on conference weekend even) when
BYU tries to have coaches find new jobs or resign. No way Bronco can do this
unless he has the full backing of the administration.6) What Jaime
was saying will probably be heard now that the personality conflict is gone. 7) No way BYU goes into indepence with a new staff. They are starting to
build for that now.
Unfortunate it had to come to this. Good luck Jaime Hill...Funny
how many are just losing their minds over this bad start. I wonder how many of
you have any life experience beyond 15 years of age...holy smoke!Life is full of adversity and really, really, bad things happen...often when
we don't expect it. You can learn a lot about yourself and those who are your
so-called friends when the world starts caving in on you. I for one hope the
team can insulate themselves from all this negativity swirling around in
media-land and the internet.My gut says true Cougar fans are not
part of this assault on Mendenhall and the program in general...I smell a
rat...like Ute fans relishing in a bad year for the Cougs.If you're
not with them, you're against them.The Cougars will be fine....their
track record speaks for itself.Congrats Aggies on an excellent
Mendenhall is not hitting on all cylanders. He started this poorly by trying to
out think every great coach in the history of the game. Pretending like you can
have two starting quarterbacks is just bad judgement. Now this.
Ug.I'm blue all the way on this though I highly doubt this is the
answer. And how many great coaches are going to come to BYU now? Knowing that if
it goes south they may end up under the bus mid-year?Defense is
decent. The fact the offense is unable to stay on the field longer than three
downs is the biggest problem. Manage some sustained drives and see how the
defense responds.I hope Coach Hill lands in a great situation.
Classy guy! Best of luck.
Edwards showed us the way with his pick for a replacement - Norm Chow.Now we're suffering with second rate hacks.
Bring back John Beck to replace Anae. He would do alot better now that he's had
a chance to learn the NFL experience from a coaching standpoint.
Hill has done a fine job. The games against Oklahoma, Tulane, Wyoming, and
Oregon State are a few that come to mind from last season. In 2008, BYU went 10
quarters without allowing a single point.All the best to you coach
Hill!Thanks for giving your best in Provo!
@Howard S.MemoMidLevelCuriosities?...DoNot...GetTheirOwn NetworkTVDeals!Oklahoma lost 5 games last
year, they're 5-0, Top 10, this year.Michigan won 2 games 2 years
ago, they're back.Trust me Howie. BYU will rise again.For it is they which have a "Big-Time" Network TV deal, their own brodadcst
facility and Network.As for Legacy? Check out their Hall.Utes,
just remember, BYU's down year (all great "Legacy Programs" have
them from time to time) does nothing to elevate Utah's stature at
all.Utah will always be...Oklahoma State not Oklahoma,
Vanderbilt not Tennessee, Washington State not Washington, Texas Tech not Texas, Tulane not LSU, Creighton not Nebraska, Indiana not Notre Dame, Mich. St. not Michigan, Marquette not
Wisconsin,Ohio not Ohio StateVillanova not Penn StateCentral
Florida not FSU, Florida or Miami,All Legacy Football Programs, can
withstand a bad year or two here and there, and survive.What Utah
needs to worry about is by not being a "Legacy Football Program", you had better
never fall off, because you won't recover, ask Washington State or Colorado.Your November is coming, as are your perpetual 6-6 seasons in the PAC12
So when the defense doesn't perform any better does this mean that Bronco is
going to get fired too?And does the same go for the offense? Will
Anae be gone after next week?
Maybe Bronco should become the defensive coordinator and BYU find a new head
Wow. I finally have time to sit and write all of you and tell it how it really
is. Look's like I am just in time.New defensive coach has been in
the works for some time. Each coach is given three games. A fourth game is a
bonus. Once a coach has proven that his special area is not performing, then
the head coach gets to choose another. Four games is a season for an
assistant.Head coaches make this decision. Works this way
everywhere; we just don't hear about it way out here in the mountains. Head coaches get four years. Just the way it is. By the
way, Utah State is a good team, entertaining.BYU is fun to watch.
Go to a game sometime. Sing the anthem, buy a hot dog, take your kids for the
first time, take your wife, experience the ups and downs.Football
season is great.
I tend to agree with PapaSmurf. I suspect this move was precipitated
by Holmoe. Both Mendenhall and Holmoe were at the meeting. There seemed to be no
negotiation or option it was resign or be fired. The talent is on
the defense. Much of the talent is young. They should be playing better. At least something is being done. Maybe this will shake this team up
enough they actually start playing. It is good for Bronco to take
over the D. He is a Defensive coach. The offense can only generate 15 points.
That is not likely to change soon. The only hope BYU has against
SDSU is if the defense starts playing great. TCU and especially
Dalton are not nearly as good this year. Dalton just turned in another game
(against CSU) where his QB rating is not much better than Heaps. If
BYU can pressure Dalton and stop the running game they may have a shot if they
get 16 points. However, they will have to stop telegraphing each
play to TCU. The TCU D knows BYU's plays better than Anae. BYU has
needed major change for years. This year is making it obvious.
Look at the bright side Cougar fans. In 2 years when these stud Freshman are
firing on all cylinders we will forget this season ever happened. Look at how
bad the Utes were before Urban Meyer came in and they managed to hang on during
those bad years. We can manage one bad year if Utah could manage decades of
ineptness. And Utah fans need to bug off about BYU going Independent. You guys
got the PAC-12 (Though you were plan B) BYU going independent seems to have
personally ticked you all off.
This was in the works for awhile. I doubt Hill feels blindsided by this. When
good players leave the program as a result of words with a coach and it happens
over and over and over again, then perhaps the coach needs to go.As
far as firing Anae goes, this is the O-coordinator that has produced the
all-time winningest QB, receiver, TE and RB at BYU. Anae has called
plays this year that had the receiver caught the ball or had our QB delivered
the ball to a wide open receiver, then our PPG would be higher.As
per usual, fan insight and speculation is far, far from the truth.
I don't know much about this coach firing bit, at least it's something.
However, somebody better get fired up or somebody's going to want to take their
name off of "LaVell Edwards Stadium". It isn't about what kind of season it is,
it's about how bad you want it, win or lose aside.
Hill did a good job; we don't beat Oklahoma and Utah without him and his
Hill's firing has to be for something other than bad coaching. If it was for
bad coaching they would ALL be gone.
I thought Bronco was the DC. Hill was just a figurehead. However, as an Aggie
fan I can remember when Chris Pella was the coach here at USU and he actually
had a lot of talented player but could only win a couple of games a year. I
heard later that he. Tolerated a lot of bickering between assistant coaches and
he didn't do anything about it. They always played BYU tough so I guess they all
worked together when BYU was coming that week.So, if there is
problems on the staff then Bronco is doing the right thing. I do wish you luck
the rest of the season. On paper, SDSU should clobber you but football is funny
that way and since it is in Provo, I think you have a chance.e
Wow! This action really reveals the character of the man in charge. Maybe Bronco
should fire Robert Anae next week when BYU gets trashed by San Diego State and
then himself after the TCU whooping when he will sport a sparkling record of 1 -
6 with no bowl bid in sight. ESPN must really feel good about the deal they put
together with BYU and its independence. really feel good about the deal they put
together. Listen up Cougar nation, let's give Norm Chow a send off present
before he retires and let him be head coach for three years and have him develop
Jake Heaps. Norms's contract expires after this season with UCLA. BYU is all
about drama these days. Let's see this play out!
Big J "There are lots of problems with BYU’s program but the main
one is the lack of talent. You could put a top quality Boise or Utah staff with
those players and the results would be the same."Not true.
According to Scouts BYU has the best recruits of all midmajors. In the last 10
years its recruiting class ranks 46, Utah 68, TCU 70, and Boise 72.NFL talent created in the same period: Utah 27, TCU 24, BYU 20, and Boise 12.
National Stage:Utah 2-0 #4 and #2Boise 2-0 #4 and #4TCU 0-1 #6
We know that it took some major issues for BYU to make this change during the
season. We do not know the details and do not need to know. I'm sorry to see
this happen, I wish him good luck in the future. BYU is slow to pull the trigger
on matters. If I were looking ONLY at on the field performance I think I would
have made other moves first. Still, we don't know any other details. Let's
hope this is the end and we do not see several players leave because of this.
Wow... What a lot of Drama going on at byu. Nice move by Bronco and the byu PR
machine to wrench the headline away from the beating the "individuals" on the
football team took from the Aggies and the better coach - Gary Anderson. His
second year and he delivered a beating to byu...something not done in 20
trys.Hill has nothing to lose by being fired since his contract is
good through 2011.It is unfortunate for the athletes and young men
playing on the byu team to have to deal with the false hype and then the total
crumbling of the team as an actual TEAM unit. Bronco distanced
himself again from the failure by firing Hill...Excuses, excuses but at some
point Bronco needs to step up and admit winning is important and he is the head
coach and the buck stops with him....but I have always said Bronco is the angel
of death bringing in the end of NCAA Div I sports for byu...look at the steps:
Joining the WCC and football going independent....next step?
Hey I will take going to the pack 12 as plan B any day! Utah is a great choice
for them and they understood that. Great research university, great team, great
city and TV market. They really wanted Texas and it's buddies to come, but Utah
worked well for them also. I'm happy with that. I think the way BYU
has been coached this year has been horrible, bronco playing the two qb game and
benching heaps without letting him get into any rhythm early in the season was
the most ridiculous thing. Heaps will be a fine qb, he has poise, he is mature,
but the way he has been treated has only complicated his growth, I don't think
Bronco has been very smart. Now letting Hill go, Bronco must be dang sure of
Oh and one more thing, Norm Chow as head coach, Ty Detmer as O coord, Gary
Anderson as D coord (not happening but it would work).
I remember when Bronco was only the DC here at BYU with Crowton. The offense
lead by Crowton was horrid but the defense was amazing. Things are bad at BYU
all the way through. The defense is a good place to start fixing things. A
dominate defense can set the momentum right win games for you. Just look at the
Steelers this season. They been running a 4 QB system and they're the best team
in the NFL. Kiesel's TD was sweet. Maybe we can get him to come back and teach
the WR's a thing or two.
ANAE has got to GO, when he does not have experienced quality
players, like hall collie pitta unga, covering for his ineptness, it
shows, lack of displine and execution, dropped passes,
bad and predictive play calling, not picking a starting qb, or starting te, those players mentioned before succeeded inspite of ANAE, AnAe should have gone before HIll, but
apparently their was internal dissention and problems with hill,But what BYU really needs is a coach like wittingham or meyer, who have the fire and desire and discipline to win,and
the know how to instill that winning fire and discipline into the team. you can see just looking at them, but you do not see
that with Bronco and his quiet waysYOu must EITHER be like Lavell
Edwards and be a great administrator with vision who can hire the RIGHT
coaches, or be that coach, but you that need fire and
Some of you speak about Holmoe like he's some football genius. The guy went 0
and 50 as the Cal head coach
There is more to it than coaching performance. If you have followed BYU/Jaime
Hill closely over the last 5 years and have some true insight into the program,
you will know that he has had several conflicts with players and coaches. At
the end of the day it was not the right fit. It was a train wreck waiting to
happen. BYU knew it and Hill knew it.Hill was in it for himself
looking to build his resume for the next opportunity...."it's part of the
business." His motivations were not about BYU and what BYU football is trying
to achieve.It looks/feels like we know how Hill is going to treat
and talk about his experience at BYU....he's already admitted that he forced BYU
to fire him and not resign because he wasn't going to let BYU get away with that
(public relations).Bronco has made a good first step and he needs to
make more. Go Cougs!
You've had 4 straight seasons with 10+ wins. Since when is that not good
enough?? Hill's firing is not about coaching the defense. It's about finding a
scapegoat. It's about appeasing unrealistic expectations from a fanbase that
thinks competing for the BCS is a possibility. It's about "appearing" to keep up
with the Joneses. But it's all window dressing. BYU's football woes go much
deeper than replacing coordinators.They are having a tough time
recruiting playmakers, epsecially on the defensive side. They may have one of
the worst wide receiver corps in college football. Jake Heaps: highly touted. So
was Ben Olsen. How did he turn out? What we are witnessing, for a variety of
reasons, is the unavoidable decline of a proud program. If Heaps is indeed the
next great thing, I fear he will not have the weapons around him to succeed. BYU may get 4 wins this season, 5 would be a minor miracle. Winning 10
games again is not on the horizon for some time. Let's appreciate the past 4
seasons, for the future is bleak.
Jamie is a good coach but not a good coordinator. he is too mean and
disrespectful for the BYU type athlete. Alot of kids don't respond well to the
demeaning tactics of Coach Hill. I wish him the best. I know that football is
a rough and tumble sport but coaches need to relize that they are shaping young
mens lives and need to treat them with respect.
I would love to know the back story about this firing. Obviously the
performance of BYU's defense on the field was a huge factor in Hill's dismissal,
but apparently there have been ongoing personality clashes between Hill and a
number of players and between Hill and several other coaches. It is also no
secret that Hill has had some sympathy for certain players who thought that the
Honor Code was a bit too restrictive for them. Anyway, it will be interesting
to see how the defense responds with Mendenhall taking direct control. Like
many of you, I wish Coach Hill well. He really gave his all to BYU during his
Hold on everyone. This is a good thing. Hill was a lousy d-coordinator. Did you
see the horrible schemes used against Air Force and Fla St? The talent is there
so I do blame Hill. Glad he's gone.However, the offense is a
different can of worms. As erratic as Heaps has been, he made two great throws
against USU. Both should have gone for TDs (one to Ashworth and one to Diluigi).
If they catch those balls, the whole outcome is different. I think the Y
receivers are horrible this year and that's one of the problems. Where's Collie when you need him? Oh yea that's right, leading the NFL in
Hill was sacrificed as part of the giant PR machine that is college football.I doubt that Hill played a major role in BYU's current situation, yet
Mendenhall had no choice but to give the public SOMETHING as to explain why BYU
is 1-3 right now.When your team is 1-3 with a three-game losing
skid, there's no way Mendenhall could've let the status quo go on for much
longer. Fans expect teams to make changes when they start losing because most
fans feel it's intolerable to just do nothing.99 percent of the
blame for BYU's woes lies with its players. Many are young an inexperienced, and
thus BYU's record reflects that. But Mendenhall just HAD to make a move... ANY
move, to appease the fans.It's too bad that's the way it is in
college and pro sports. Someone always takes the fall so coaches and fans can
have something to blame. In this case, it cost Hill his job.It's
really too bad.
Fire Bronco and Anae. These coaches obviously cannot recruit or develop talent.
Bronco obviously wants to be a Defensive Coordinator again. He has never had a
stellar Defense at BYU. Name another 1-A coach who keeps control of an
assistant's job. So much money invested in facilities, technology,
PR. BYU will get "exposure" only by doing what Boise and Utah have done: get to
and win a BCS bowl. I'm tired of hearing the Honor Code as an excuse. BYU needs
coaches who know how to recruit the best and get top performance!!!
It's not so much the coach as the players that make an offense or defense go. It
sounds like Hill had some personal issues that made this firing take place which
is unusual especially for the Y. Some say Robert Anae should go which is silly.
Take a look at the last 4 years of offense and re-ask the question. BYU's
offense led the nation in most offensive categories over the past seveal years
so Robert Anae is not the problem. The problem is simply personel...poor quality
personel athletically speaking. BYU is simply terrible on both sides of the ball
and that is all about talent and they don't have it. Now you could blame this on
coaching if you talk about recruiting and not realizing you would need a strong
running game this year with a new QB ...then I would say Bronco is fully to
blame. As far as what is happening (or not happening) on the field however this
is all about player talent and not about coaching.
Wow look at the ute fans coming out of the woodwork to tell BYU how to run their
program.You guys are hilarious.You can tell who they are
because they spell everything incorrectly.Listen to Jan on 1280
tomorrow morning.He will tell you a little more than your little
minds can handle right now.There are plenty of reasons for this
happening right now instead of at the end of the year.
They gave him poor players and fired him because they didn't play well.Another dark day in BYU athletic history.
Funny how the poor ute fans are so worried about us. Enjoy us having a down
year. They don't happen too often.You guys know how it feels. We
are finally getting a taste of what it is like. I can live with that. After
all, basketball is just around the corner...
Even when BYU stinks, they are still a bigger story than Utah.This
goes to the argument, that the Majority, does not really care about Utah, win
lose or draw.When Utah went to the Pac 10, they were so revered in
the eyes of the league (Not), that they were told you get no revenue sharing for
the first year, 5 years later you may have a larger cut, but, the new TV deal
has not been signed yet, so we'll see.Reality...Utah, with
Washington St. will not be sharing equal TV monies with USC, Oregon, UCLA or
Washington, at all.The new model has already been established, (See
Texas/Oklahoma and the BIG 12).What really bugs the Utes is the fact
that BYU has enough Clout, Cachet, Legacy, and Respect, that THE Major
Sports Network, ESPN, was willing to cut a deal with BYU alone. One
bad year is irrelevent, Legacy Programs are not built or lost in 1 year or
10.This bugs the Utes to no end, not only will BYU realize more TV
revenue than Utah, they (BYU) will also have every game on National TV,
Basketball & Football. ADVANTAGE Recruiting: BYU
Jake Heaps is the real deal. Great arm strength, quick release and great work
ethic. As the game slows down for Heaps we will all forget about John Beck and
Max Hall real fast. As far as the play calling and offensive problems this year
I got to believe it has something to do with the Tight Ends. That is the one
variable BYU is lacking this year. Anae's offense in the past has relied on
great Tight Ends to create mismatches. This offense with a few tweeks will take
off. Unfortunately the defense is what it is.
I'm just thankful I'm a Runnin' Ute and haven't hitched myself to the cougs
wagon, which incidently has no wheels, no handle, and is obviously completly
rusted out...and to think they thought they were the chosen team to go to the
PAC10...what planet were the cougs on???Oh, and by the way...the
Church is still true just in case some of the coug fans are begining to
now in typical state of Utah fashion, Hill will be bad-mouthed. I've pointed
out that in Utah you are a hero until you are no longer "with us" then you are a
bum. Remember Karl Malone? How about every other Jazz player who left the
team? BYU and Utah fans are some of the worst in the country. Such a shame
when both have good programs.
Here we go. The dominoes are falling.
How is this going to help BYU score points?
@Big J:"There are lots of problems with BYU’s program but the main
one is the lack of talent. You could put a top quality Boise or Utah staff with
those players and the results would be the same."I completely
disagree; especially about BSU's staff. BSU has had several rebuilding years
and very few players go into the NFL, yet they put out winning programs every
season. When was the last time BSU had a losing season? A down year for them is
1 loss. No, BSU has the formula. They know how to WIN with the talent they have,
no matter the quality of talent. I have no doubt that BSU coaches with BYU's
current roster would win 10 games.
Bluto - delusions! Independence equals a money grab. That's it. The sobering
thing to think about is maybe the last 4 to 5 years are as good as it's going to
get for your legacy program. If your recruiting has (and will be) so good,
where are the athletes? With a schedule full of question marks and WAC teams or
powerhouses such as Central Florida your savior ESPN will regulate you to the
worst times and worst channels. If BYU continues to limit what recruits come in
it all doesn't matter anyway.Good program - yesLegacy Program
- not anymore than anyone else....Good luck in independence. Spend
the money wisely.
Bluto,Name one "Legacy" program that has not been to a BCS Bowl.
They don't exist. Saying byu is a "Legacy" program in football is like saying
Christian Rock is "Rock".I really feel sorry for byu. This has been
a terrible year for them. Watching the Utes get invited to an elite BCS
Conference. Watching several recruits jump ship. Watching the Utes handle
their leaving the MMC with style, class and professionalism.All of
this must be akin to watching your older brother going steady with Megan Fox
while you are stuck dating Rosie O'Donnel.
We all need to wrap our heads around the fact that we are now beginning one long
spring-fall camp that will finally result in a very solid team by September
2011. Don't look for wins during that time but look for individuals to step up
The root problem was certainly deeper than performances on the field. Remember,
there are 5 goals of the team and the 5th one is football. So, it is deeper than
football as to why he was released AND, they must have had a track record of
disciplinary issues. In my business, unless there is a serious breach of
policies or procedures, there must be coaching plans enacted or written
disciplinary measures taken beforehand. In other words, a history of performance
issues. So, if performance is not attained and it is time to terminate, then the
employees knows what is going to happen. Hill knew it. Something was going on
and it appears that the Bronco most likely worked with him, to no avail.
Bluto,BYU has had a lot of football success in the last thirty
years, but to suggest they are a "legacy program" of the likes of the teams you
listed on the right in your first post is a stretch. Only BYU homers would make
that leap.But since you named names, I had to check the numbers.
According to BYU's own website (which is pretty good), the Cougars not only have
a losing record against the "legacy" teams, but they also have a losing record
against the teams in the left column that you obviously don't respect.Don't you hate it when facts get in the way of your argument?I for
one am not "bugged" by BYU's new deal with ESPN. I am happy with the Utes' Pac
10 move, and am anxiously awaiting to see how independence treats BYU. But the
Cougs had better start doing better against quality opponents or their 3 games
per year will be on Fridays on ESPN 8 - The Ocho!
Bluto I thinksk you need to calm down or else I'll whips out me Spinach. Anywho
look BYU isk absolutely terrible thisk year. The question now isk can they pull
out of thisk nose dive soon. I regrets too so say itsk but perhaps the legacy
isk dying out. Also the defense has been terrible since oh say 2000 and that
needs to be fixed. Here's to hopin the Y picks it up in the years to come.
Perhaps less pickle juice and more spinach. A gu gu gu gu gu. I'm
Popeye the sailor man. (toot toot)
The only problem with this is that the head coach's defenses were worst before
Hill than after his arrival. Here is one of the problems, if you are going to
run a 3-4 defense you have to have speed and quickness in the linebacking corp,
and quality and depth at nose tackle. The Y does not have these in the program.
Coach Hill handled this about as professionally as it could be
handled. The Y not so much.
perhaps BYU should run a 5-2-4 at least then they could stop the run. Something
they haven't done...ever.
Which side of the ball has the most problems. If you are going to fire someone,
fire the guy in charge of the offense. It does not matter how many points we
give up if we can't score any on offense. The wrong guy got fired yesterday.
It will be very interesting to see how much Coach Mendenhall reveals about this
firing at his news conference tomorrow. Don't expect the local sports
journalists to press him much -- for whatever reason, the sports media types
here have always seemed reluctant to push Mendenhall to answer questions that he
doesn't want to answer (interestingly, they seem to have no such inhibitions
when questioning Utah's Whittingham). If our local sports reporters were any
good they already would have gotten the real story through leaks and carefully
cultivated confidential sources within the BYU football program. Coach
Mendenhall could augment his income by giving seminars to other college coaches
on how to intimidate those who cover their teams.
It is clear there are some very strong fans in the cougars corner. Which is the
way it should be. But it is a fact of human nature when you become emotionaly
fully invested, you lose rational perspective. So let me help you:1) Outside of the true blue cougar fan BYU is not a national level legacy
program. A WAC legacy program? A MWC legacy program? Fine you can provide
evidance to support that position. 2)Something is fishy in Denmark,
when an asst. coach is fired mid-season. The negatives of that coach had to
clearly out weigh the positives, and most of those must have been in house,
maybe tomorrows press release will add light, but I doubt it. 3)
Heaps is young with a ton of potential, but he is still young. His O-line has
underachieved, his running game is below average, and his receivers have
struggled. He will be a much better QB in the future, but please don't compare
him to Andy Dalton this year.4) Stop hating on UTE success, BYU and
UTAH are where they are because of choices made and consequences suffered.
"CougarForever | 4:37 p.m. Oct. 3, 2010 Holladay, UtahIt will be
very interesting to see how much Coach Mendenhall reveals about this firing at
his news conference tomorrow. Don't expect the local sports journalists to press
him much -- for whatever reason, the sports media types here have always seemed
reluctant to push Mendenhall to answer questions that he doesn't want to
answer-----------They don't press him because he is so verbose.
After he takes 10 minutes and a thousand words to say what boils down to a 30
second answer, there isn't any time left.
Sorry to lose you Hill, I hope that you all goes well for you. Does anyone know
when Apo gets back in, we need some receivers who can catch more consistently.
If the offense can get going then that gives the defense a chance. Especially
when the D is on the field twice as long as the offense. Here is to hoping, Go
Apo is out 4 to 6 weeks. Won't matter cause Heaps will just over throw him.Bronco had to throw someone under the bus. What will happen when they
lose to SDST and UNLV? Embarrasing.
It's wrong to single out one coach, BYU has more problems than just defense.It's wrong for Bronco to take over the defense, he's the head coach.But Hey, I'm just a Utah fan, don't listen to me.
If the offense isn't producing that means your defense is always on the field.
Seems like the offensive coordinator should have been let go too.
Puleeze, could they get rid of Anae already? He should have been given the pink
slip years ago.
You know what, you should all run BYU, all you that think firing Jaime was such
a terrible idea. We don't know the backstory, we don't really know anything
except that Hill didn't fit in well and was troublesome for players and coaches
alike. I do know this: BYU can score points and has scored many points through
the past 5 years. Even when we were slowed against good teams, we still put
points on the board. It's clear that this season, we are not able to do that.
Receivers drop passes, our QB overthrows the fade routes, our tight ends aren't
contributing, we haven't got much of a run game. Fine. But that comes with
time.Defense is different. We have plenty of players, but we gave up
tons of points last season to teams that weren't terribly amazing. We managed to
have enough heart to stop Oklahoma and Oregon State, but really, our defense
doesn't penetrate and doesn't get it done. But they could. Here's to hiring a
good d-coordinator. Hopefully Hill finds the right place for him. But contention
I am sad for Coach Hill, but not surprised. I like seeing our defenders playing
in the same zip code as the ball. The corners almost never press - which means
they do NOT do the very thing that tends to work at stopping BYU year in and
year out. Pressing disrupts the pass patterns enough to make timing throws very
difficult to complete. Our defenders have had so much space to cover the
receivers are simply playing catch in the free zones. BYU has great athletes
and terrible schemes. Now if someone would just convince Bronco to dump Norm
Chow... er I mean Robert Anae. I nearly had a heart attack when yet again I
watched BYU run on third down to the short side of the field (12th defender is
the sideline dude). He does this constantly and he just needs to learn the game.
He's a lineman Bronco...he's Moose from the Archie Comics, not an offensive
genius. Let Doman call the plays, PLEASE!
Jaime's defense hasn't been getting the job done. It's been vanilla, and
somewhat effective, mostly, because great offenses that have helped to cover up
most of the warts on defense. Jaime's defenses just aren't getting
any better. Jaime almost never puts pressure on opposing offenses,
doesn't anticipate, can't cover receivers, hardly ever blitzes, in other words,
his bend but don't break defense is completely ineffective against good
offenses.Sad to see Jaime leave, but it's time to bring in someone
who knows how to get the most from his talent.
The offensive coordinator seems to also have some fault as well. Without making
some 3rd down conversions and giving the defense a breather....maybe the focus
has been too one sided....? Long bombs and dropped passes and poor
blocking on the OL seem to be contributing factors. Maybe the entire coaching
staff is out of sync...? Good luck righting the ship....
Bronco is neurotic to begin with, but now he is showing signs of cracking. Can
you imagine LaVell throwing a coach under the team bus in the midst of a team
failure to win?"Bronc" is no LaVell Edwards, who was able to
represent his religion without shoving it down the throats of his players, many
of whom are there to play football, not go to sacrament meeting.The
LDS Church is also showing signs of wanting to use the football team as a
proseletyzing tool- a big mistake.How's about you fire "Bronc", and
figure out how you are going to schedule consistently good teams an an