Dick Harmon,Question. Possible article in the future. Overall,
many commentators are saying our USA society has become more coarse, crude and
hateful. From reading the diatribes, rants, raves, abusive language (even
without the naughty words)and hate speech so prevalent on the Comment sections
here and elsewhere, I've got to believe our society is going totally down the
toilet.From your position have you found that to be true -- that
people disagree more and are beyond disagreeable in doing so?
You give too little credit to Nevada and UTEP. They will each score at least 40
on their opponent. I love how USU fans predict these wild wins with
absolutely zero logic on why that would be the score. The list of serious
injuries is almost double BYUs. Just looking how both teams played last week,
the edge for sure goes to BYU. Only predicting a TD victory is hardly being a
HedgeHog! Your hallucinating again. BYUs win over Oklahoma was big. So was the
win over Oregon which the utes could'nt even do. BYU has even beaten Southern
Cal a few years ago (it happened). Keep playing San Jose State & New Mexico.
Big Ben---it looks very jr and sr. heavy and the freshman and soph's you are
mentioning.......well honestly, I have never even heard of the names on that
team....I'm just saying.So Friday night will be a bunch of 2nd
string players against each other. I guess we'll see who emerges.Harmon is 31-4 and he picked UNR last week, hardly a "homer." People, you need
to read his entire articles as they usually have quite the perspective into BYU
athletics. As far as who has been the most open and critical of BYU
coaching this year, it has been Harmon. The other guys have sort of tip-toed
around the coaching issue----which Mendenhall openly admits he was wrong.BYU has lost games against AF and UNR because of their Spring and Fall
camps. I think Mendenhall has admitted as much. The question is can BYU
recover?A loss to USU would tell me a resounding "No."A
win against USU would tell me, progress has been made. I see this week as a make
it or break it (season wise) game. I'll be there.
I have to disagree with MichiganCoog. Utahs 2007 Starting
lineup:LT-Zane Beadles (soph)LG-Caleb Schlauderoff
(freshman)C-Kyle Gunther (senior)RG-Mike Conley (junior)RT-Dustin Hensel (junior)QB-Brian Johnson (junior)RB-Darrell Mack (junior)WR-Brian Hernandez (senior)WR-Derrick Richards (senior)WR-Bradon Godfrey (junior)WR-Freddie
Brown (junior)On DefenseDE-Pual Kruger (freshman)DT-Gabe Long (senior)DT-Kenape Eliapo (sophomore)DE-Greg Newman
(junior)LB-Malaki Mokofisi (senior)LB-Joe Jiannoni (senior)LB-Kyle Brady (senior)CB-Sean Smith (sophomore)CB-Brice
McCain (junior)FS-Robert Johnson (sophomore)SS-Steve Tate/Joe
Dale (senior, sophomore)Outside of the linebackers, thats hardly a
"veteran" team. Just saying..........
"As soon as BYU starts out a season with a big win over a big name opponent and
an undefeated September.."Solomon,Talk about
hyperbole..LOL!Silly kewg, BYU doesn't get "big wins" over "big
1) Why do you cougar fans bother to argue with hedgehog? I know he is annoying,
but lets just move on ok?2) MichiganCoogI love the posting in
Bronco-speak. To sum up what you said:you find it humorous that
Utah fans look down on BYU. In 2007, Utah was in a similar predicament and came
out of it, beginning with a game 5 victory over utah state. This year, Utah has
not played anyone good. BYU has had a more difficult schedule than Utah. Did I miss anything?
...to continue my point about Utah's 2007 and BYU's 2010 team...BYU's is a
freshman and sophmore dominated team, whereas Utah's 2007 team was a veteran
team, that did not face any ranked teams on their way to a 9-4 season. If BYU
pulls that off (which they will not), it will prove to be a much bigger
accomplishment (season-wise) because of how many teams they will have faced w/
winning records this year. So far, an 11-4 record, and 2 ranked teams ahead. We
can only watch as it continues to play out. First the Baggies, then SDSU at
home. Go Coogs, turn this around!
"If you lose it will take years to change public perception."As
usual, hedgehog, you're full of hyperbole, but short on understanding.ONE WIN to start next season will completely erase the lethargy of BYU's 2010
rebuilding season.You see. a national reputation that has been built
on decades of football excellence, is only going to suffer a slight bruise from
an occassional rebuilding year.As much as BYU haters try to minimize
it, BYU's national championship is like a golden ticket to credibility. As soon
as BYU starts out a season with a big win over a big name opponent and an
undefeated September, the talking heads will immediately start talking about
BYU's previous journey to the peak of college football.A been there,
done that, they could do it again.Instant credibility. Instant
exposure. Instant relevance.Because of years of previous success!
One thing I hope is that BYU plays to win and that they don't play not to lose.
This game is more mental than physical. They've just got to play smart, play
hard, and they will be alright.Go Cougars!
You know it is funny how many Ute fans on here, and on the airwaves that say how
horrible BYU is at 1-3, and have a major case of amnesia concerning how bad
Utah's 2007 season started, losing 0-27 to that lousy 3-9 UNLV team, then faced
Utah State in their 5th game only to turn it around. Yes, BYU is facing a much
more difficult schedule w/ SDSU, TCU, and an unproven, than Utah's 2007
schedule, and their overrated 2010 Utah squad that hasn't faced anyone w/ a
pulse yet. I guess we'll see how BYU fares going forward, but I like their
chances going forward. Again the major factor between BYU's 2010 schedule, and
Utah's 2007 schedule, is that BYU has faced a 10 fold more difficult schedule...
Fiddler: DESPERATELY grasping at straws!!LOL!!!!Go
Hey Fiddler,what does "cant even fight their way through UNLV and
UNM LOL!!!!!!" mean? That just makes no sense?Wait, why did I even
ask? Fiddler is out of posts for this thread.........
No question the injuries at USU have had an influence on the 1-3 start but not
once has Coach A used that as an excuse but we all know if (again, IF) the Ags
win Friday night that the Cougs will be full of them. Better get started now to
think of something good and original.
"That being said, Fridays ESPN game is definitely “do or die” for
the cougars. You see, from a national fan base and media perspective, this is
the only college football game on TV. 99.9% have little to no vested interest in
BYU or USU."Opposite ends of the spectrum here. What channel was
Utah on Saturday? Funny that a 1-3 BYU team becomes the only team on tv and an
undefeated Utah team that is top 15 can't even fight their way through UNLV and
UNM. LOL!!! Now you tell me who "99.9% of the people have little to no vested
interest in."You guys really do make things to easy. Other than
that, beat us at something then come talk.
Funny, I think most rational coaches and fans realize injuries are part of the
game — not excuses.That being said, Fridays ESPN game is
definitely “do or die” for the cougars. You see, from a national
fan base and media perspective, this is the only college football game on TV.
99.9% have little to no vested interest in BYU or USU. The national
fan base and media will walk away from this game with one of two impressions.If the kewgs wins - the nation will look at the BYU program as weak but
attempting to rebuildIf the kewgs lose — the nation will look at the
BYU program as irrelevant and a complete joke.Remember tds, when it
comes to “exposure” perception is reality. If you lose it will take
years to change public perception.
No matter what happens Friday, I hope USU knows that it took BYU less than 24
hours to all but rid this state of their whole program so watch what you say or
we may just complete what almost happened a couple months ago.
After watching the cut block on Fuga I realized that 1. AF, the
Texans and DEN Bronco's use that as their primary blocking scheme. 2. It is dirty. It is also legal (barely in Fuga's case) and it is dangerous.
3. There should be additional restrictions on blocking below the
waist in both college and the NFL for obvious reasons. The problem
lies in the current rules. QBs have all kinds of protection by the rules. So do
punters because they are in vulnerable positions when they get hit. The line
also needs some additional protection from cut blocks. On another
topic, BYU spend all summer putting in plays for Nelson. Too bad they did not
include some Pistol plays. That would make the LB reads much harder. BYU's
offense is SO predictable that decent defensive teams and 1/2 of the fans know
what the play is before it is run. Do not be surprised next year
when Nelson is back and running the offense at least part of the time. BYU will never be great until they learn to disguise their plays better. The
defense has to much warning.
Re: Dallas Aggie I normally don't care for Dick's stuff either as I
am a fan of the Ags myself but at least he had the "facts" straight in
understanding how bad our injury situation really is. He even had a couple of
pre-season injuries on there I was unaware of.Both squads healthy
and at full force or simply missing one or two players each and I would go with
the Aggies for sure this year. Turbin and Morrison are the type of athletes that
BYU has not had much success handling over the years and frankly this BYU team
has really missed expectations as Heaps has not been worth all the hype.However looking at it I just see USU too damaged to get over the hump.
If we win I will revert back to my 1993 (58-56 USU), I think the
posts will be coming down:)
This all points to the necessity of building a program with overall team depth.
Appears neither program has it right now.
Harmon is such a homer. Oh well, the same goes for me. I expect USU to win 35
- 17. Our boys know how important this game is to USU and our plan to
reestablish our team. It means MUCH MUCH more to us, than to BYU. The time has
come to box up a win and put it under the Christmas tree. Go Aggies!