Samwise | 11:31 p.m. Sept. 30, 2010 Hobbiton, The Shirewwookie,
maybe Detmer was a "stand out" player in the NFL... after all, he "stood out" of
bounds on the sideline for most of his career.----------I'll
bet San Francisco would trade Detmer straight across for Smith right now, and
Detmer is coaching high school.
Collie is my favorite current NFL player. He would still be pretty good on any
team, but obviously playing with the best QB in the league, and earning his
trust, has helped Collie immensely. wwookie, maybe Detmer was a
"stand out" player in the NFL... after all, he "stood out" of bounds on the
sideline for most of his career.
Tarheel Ute,Try to catch Collie and tell me he doesn't have blazing
speed.He's faster than he looks.
I guess you have to have something positive to write and read about if you are a
fan of the Koogs.
Jacobson has the tools to become a solid NFL slot receiver. I think he will have
a great senior season when he has had a year to get on the same page with Heaps.
Appo has all the metrics to play in the NFL as well. If all goes well I can see
Heaps and Appo becoming a Hall-Collie type of combo. Who will step
up and be the next BYU NFL TE following Pitta? We haven't even had one of these
youngsters step up and be the next decent Cougar yet.Too bad Luke
Staley had so many injuries. In his prime he was probably the most talented
Cougar to ever step foot in Provo. He would be an NFL starting RB today if he
hadn't had surgery on every part of his body.A few other former NFL
Cougs who have done well - Todd Shell and Jason Buck. As far as receiver, I
think Pendleton's dad Kirk played a couple of years for the Jets.
That's because until recently BYU didn't have any real speed! Hopefully, things
are getting better.
It's because he's liv'n right. Nice work Austin, keep it up!
Great for Collie, but I have to admit I'm amazed at his success. He's good all
right. The pros are too metrics oriented. Look at the first round flameouts to
see a lot of guys who had the numbers just can't stick in the NFL. Then you have
guys like Drew Brees who can hit crossbars from 30 yards (60 min) and be
disgusted when he missed a couple. Too small, not a great arm, but hey, a pretty
good QB.Lets see if Max Hall starts this year. Another QB too small
with poor metrics. I'm rooting for him. BTW, he's trying to beat out an Oregon
State QB that I didn't think would make the pros.I love to see guys
succeed in spite of the numbers. Live by the numbers, die by the numbers?
"He is Fantasy Football GOLD this year! In our league, I drafted him in about
the 10th round and is scoring more points than almost every other wide reciever.
Thanks, Austin!"You're lucky, man... He was gone in the 2nd or 3rd
round in my league, but so far he's been worth it!
"I just wouldn't like seeing him go out with a career ending knee injury."I feel the same way about Alex Smith, EyePatch.
Kudos to the Ute fans that wish him luck and recognize his talent!
I remember all the negative comments that many Ute fans posted about Austin and
how he would never make it in the NFL... I am shocked to notice that none of
those detractors are making comments now. I have to give them credit, they at
least know when to kept their mouths shut. There are many factors that
contribute to his success, most of them posted in many of the comments. All I
know is that he has always been a stud! I congratulate him on his work ethic,
talent and desire. He is a class act all around. It also makes me happy that
through his play on the field he has effectively silenced many of his critics.
Having said that, I am sure they can still come up with reasons why he is just
not that good. Good luck with that!
Yeah, Collie has done great. I just wouldn't like seeing him go out with a
career ending knee injury. Enjoy Cougar fans.
Considering the lackluster performance of previous BYU wideouts in the NFL, I
didn't think Collie would be effective. But he has started his professional
career in a remarkable fashion.I hope he has a long, successful
Interesting article, Doug. A couple observations. Holmoe was considered an NFL
"standout"? By what measure? Sure he was a/some 49'er super bowl teams, but I
don't think you could consider him a standout. Also, don't forget Todd
Christensen actually entered the NFL as a fullback. It wasn't until his 3rd
time, the Raiders, that we was moved to TE. Listing him as a tight end with Chad
Lewis and Itula Mili gives the impression he was a TE at the Y. Nope. Let's hope
Collie keeps it going strong. Go Cougs!
RE: Sloppy J.You're right--the Colts (and specifically Manning) really
wanted him. We love him around here, not just because he produces, but because
he is the kind of player that all coaches love. He's a workhorse, doesn't have
any off-the-field issues, and he does his homework. Collie is one of the
smartest receivers in the NFL, which more than compensates for his lack of
speed. It also doesn't hurt that he practices harder than anyone and has a great
relationship with Manning. It's nice to see a former cougar having success.
Jay Miller was a great receiver, slow, but always open despite double coverage.
If I were a young BYU receiver I would check out the old films. I think Jay had
a bad knee at the end.
I agree CHS 85, I drafted Collie in my FF league in like the 9th or 10th round
and he is destroying most other receivers that were drafted way ahead of him.
It also helps that most teams are double teaming Reggie Wayne and
Dallas clark, thus leaving Collie with awesome 1 on 1 matchups.Keep
it up Austin! I love watching the Colts now to see #17 catch passes.
Who is doing the research on this article? How can anyone writing about BYU
football not know Golden Richards was a BIG part of BYU football, and did NOT
transfer to Hawaii after his freshman year, but until just before his senior
season. I read it was because of the change to a running game, the school said
he flunked out. Golden denies this. Thus, Co;;ie is NOT the first BYU product to
make it in the NFL, Golden is.
Collie benefited greatly against the Broncos because their defense was
hyper-focused on shutting down Wayne. If teams (like Jacksonville this week, as
mentioned by a previous poster) decide to focus on Collie, then Wayne will
benefit. Either way, the Colts benefit. Mediocre or even good defensive teams
will struggle to shutdown more than one impact WR.
He is Fantasy Football GOLD this year! In our league, I drafted him in about
the 10th round and is scoring more points than almost every other wide reciever.
I think if Austin, keeps this up, it will only make the NFL look closer at the
other BYU recievers, and Denis Pita, could be a big impact player as well, I
would love to see these guys on the same team. Even better if Max Hall was
throwing to them again.
Congrats Collie!We're glad you're doing well with the Colts and wish
you the best!Goooo Cougars! (and Colts)
Good job Austin! Best of luck, health and success in the future.
Congrats to Austin Collie. I am one of the ute fans who thought he wouldn't
make it. He has proved me wrong. I give him a lot of respect. He has learned
to shut his mouth and go to work, and it has provided great returns for him. I
expect him to continue to get better from here. Best of luck to him!
Blazing speed is not a requirement for being a very successful WR in the
NFL.Jerry Rice wasn't that fast (reportedly only 4.71), but, like
Austin Collie, Jerry found ways of getting open.
All I know is Glen Koslowski was slow in Tecmo Bowl but he could sure catch.
Hope Collie can continue his success.
There's no denying that luck plays a part in any player's success, from the
choices his parents make when they're kids, to his ability to avoid injury (Luke
Staley, anyone?), to the team that drafts him. Admittedly, playing with Peyton
Manning would help any receiver look good.One mitigating fact hasn't
been mentioned, though . . it wasn't like Collie was randomly drawn out of a hat
by the Colts. Refer to an SI article from last year (I forget the month) . .
Manning specifically wanted Collie. I think even Colts haters would confess that
Manning has one of the sharpest football minds ever seen on a field, and,
wanting to improve his team's chances, did what research and scouting he could
to find a solid #3 receiver that would fit their offense and culture. His
answer: Austin Collie. I think his opinion has been validated so far. That's not
luck. That's playing your way onto an NFL legend's radar.
Even a 4.5 is not that fast anymore for a wideout in the NFL, but along with his
quickness and route running, Austin is a hard check for most NFL db's just like
Welker is at New England.
Detmer made starts for four different teams. Led the Eagles to the playoffs one
year, and stuck around the league for 14 seasons. Brett Favre has been quoted as
saying that Detmer is the smartest football player he has ever met. Pretty good
if you ask me!!!
What a great kid. Grow up already Let it all go. 4 & 18, Magic Happens, those
are things said in the past. Let us live in the now. Collie is a good kid. He
is working his tail off and he is representing BYU and the Church well. Good
luck Austin. Coming from a Ute fan that is easy to say, you are a special
athlete, and work for everything you receive. Keep it up...
Ute fan here to satisfy your desires for praise and credit where it's due.
(Mostly I'd like to quash the feelings Y Grad and CougarBlue have about being
better than me and my fellow fans.)I hated watching the Utes play
against Collie. No one would hate him if he wasn't good. He really did play at
an amazing level that seemed to lift the rest of the team. Too bad there's no
such leadership now.Collie will continue to do well (not hard to
admit). He's a classy guy (unlike Hall), a good member of my church, and he
deserves to enjoy success for his efforts.Soon we won't be in the
same conference, so I can root for BYU again. I wish they had talent like
Collie. I think they stink, and it's a real shame. I also think independence
will do more harm than good, but I'm certainly patient enough to wait and see.
Robinson forgot another outstanding former BYU offensive lineman, Mike Keim, who
made major contributions to the NFL.
Collie has sufficient talent, smarts but not blinding speed. And, as the color
commentators suggested Sunday night, Collie is still relatively unknown if not
always respected. I suspect after his first three starts, Jacksonville’s
defensive coordinators, and DCs from this point on, will pay particular
attention to the now highly touted Manning-Collie relationship. Collie certainly has the potential to join the likes of Ed McCaffrey, Cris
Collinsworth and Steve Largent, first tier, notably white wide receivers who
were known for their toughness, great hands, precise routs and fearless response
to hard hits, but also discounted for their lack of athleticism and speed (maybe
not Largent — he was pretty fast). Others, second tier, more journeyman
like wide outs, also with similar abilities, such as Glen Kozlowski, Joe
Jurevicius, Wes Welker and Wayne Chrebet had serviceable careers but only
sporadic spectacular runs. Collie’s success may well depend
on how the Colts offensive coordinators continue to outcoach their defensive
counterparts and whether Collie remains Peyton’s primary target. While too early to gauge, I’m betting Collie will have a career
similar to McCaffrey and Collinsworth.
You could see this guy was a cut above, when as a Freshman, he burned Notre Dame
for a long touchdown pass.It's not just Manning making him look
good, or being drafted by the Colts. This guy has been a winner at every level
and was simply not going to be denied.There are more than just a few
NFL GM's kicking themselves right about now.Don't underestimate the
role, playing in abscurity on the Mountain, had on his 4th round draft
status.Now, BYU players will once again "Be Seen" by going
Independent. And thus, the future holds promise again, for players
to receive the recognition they deserve.This year being the
exception of course.It's not a coincidence, that the last Major
National Award (excluding Pitta's Consensus All-American)wasthe Doak
Walker Award to Luke Staley.Which was while BYU was still playing on
ESPN, and before the rotten Mtn. Network.It's Good to be Home.Remember, BYU recruits....Every Home Game, most away, on
National TV. ESPN, ABC, ESPN 2 or U or BYU-TV. Same day
re-broadcasts.Beats Fox Regional, Hello Utah, crickets, crickets?
All the Utah fans who said he wouldn't make it in the NFL can eat your hearts
out. This guy torched your best db's on a regular basis.
Collie is one of the reasons why they won 10 games while he was there. He was so
much better than the average WR at byu, the loss in talent is noticable.Manning has full faith in him so he should continue to have great games.
The timing was just right and good for him. Who said he was too slow? Well, he
was picked from the right team, at the right time and chemistry. Enjoy your
BleedcougarblueI do think that Manning has helped Collie a lot by
getting him the ball with good throws and by teaching him in practice but I will
admit that it is not all Manning and the Colts. Collie is pretty good and
Kids want to be picked in the top ten of the draft for big money, but then go
play for a poor team. Collie hit the magic formula. Get picked at the end of
round and play for a contending team, and the money is still good.
Hard to trust a story where the author states " BYU, who practically invented
the college passing game" and says Ty Detmer was an NFL stand-out. Ty was much
more of an NFL sit-down.Austin Collie is doing amazing things for
the colts. He was a key component of the team last year that made a good run for
the Lombardi, and I expect him to be huge again this year. He is deceptively
quick and runs routes better than 1/2 the starting receivers in the NFL. He also
picked up on Mannings rythym early, which is something the greats do (rice, T.O.
Sharpe, smith, etc.). Expect great things from Collie and a long
career.... and hopefully Austin can keep that attitude that his
teams the best and the rest are garbage. It made a lot of people not like him
when he was at byu, but you cannot say he isnt a team player.Good
Love watching Collie. I know you didn't intend to list every single BYU player
to make a significant impact in the NFL. But just a reminder about one Cougar
who almost always gets left off the list. Virgil Carter played QB in the NFL
for 10 years and was named both the Bears and Bengals offensive MVP. Also the
first QB to run the West Coast Offense.
Was it just me or did Mark Bellini sound a little jealous when he insinuated
that the difference between him and Austin was luck? Also BYU receivers are not
always slow white guys with good hands. Mark seemed to forget that BYU has had
slow guys of other ethnicity's as well like Margin Hooks or O'Neill Chambers.
Oh yewties!, oh yeeewwwties! Come out! Come out wherever you are!Ha!
Ha! Come on, BYU haters, just admit it. It isn't 'just' Peyton Manning. It
isn't 'just' luck. Austin Collie has got TALENT!Go Cougars!
Great article considering you and the rest of ute-dom seemed to relentlessly
attack him for answering a set up question, to take a free shot at his rival
(remember 4th and 18) , with tact. It's about time someone from the red group
says, "Sorry, we were just upset we lost."
I always like seeing Latter Day Saints do well in the NFL. i love watching
Collie on sunday, its a lot better than watching him play against the utes.
Collie's efforts last Sunday helped the Coltsbeat the Denver Broncos.
Jacksonville is next.
I'd say his 'Utah' based detractors who assured us all of his NFL demise ought
to be enjoying their crow about now. As great as Austin's been in the NFL so
far, I predict he's just getting started.
he was the key I think in BYU not going undefeated last year. Other then the
Tightends, they had no outside threat, such as him, and they are still looking
for it now. So had he stayed last year, you can imagine what could have been
the case. Now you have a bunch of new kids, outside of the lineman, learning
their way, that is almost unheard of these days. That is QB, RB, TE, and
Don't you mean the Colt defeated Denver? They play Jacksonville this coming
I loved to hear the nay-sayers complain that anybody could be a star receiver
with Manning throwing the passes. Undoubtedly explains why Austin was such a
star at BYU.Another great quarterback was throwing the passes.Anyway, sure says a lot for work ethic. What was the quote, "work hard,
live right?"Hoping for some Austin Collie-style magic Friday night.
The guy's a stud - what can you say! Having success as a receiver in the NFL is
tricky; you need the right scheme and the right QB to match your skills and then
you need the opportunity.It's clear that Collie made the right
decision when he left school early, that's for sure.
Good luck to Austin and I hope he stays healthy. Make BYU proud with your
production and speed will be secondary. Go Courgars and everything
that is, was and will be Cougar.