Doug Robinson: Collie is BYU's first wide receiver to make a big impact in the NFL


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  • SportzFan Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 4, 2010 10:24 p.m.

    Samwise | 11:31 p.m. Sept. 30, 2010
    Hobbiton, The Shire
    wwookie, maybe Detmer was a "stand out" player in the NFL... after all, he "stood out" of bounds on the sideline for most of his career.

    I'll bet San Francisco would trade Detmer straight across for Smith right now, and Detmer is coaching high school.

  • Samwise Hobbiton, The Shire
    Sept. 30, 2010 11:31 p.m.

    Collie is my favorite current NFL player. He would still be pretty good on any team, but obviously playing with the best QB in the league, and earning his trust, has helped Collie immensely.

    wwookie, maybe Detmer was a "stand out" player in the NFL... after all, he "stood out" of bounds on the sideline for most of his career.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 9:59 p.m.

    Tarheel Ute,
    Try to catch Collie and tell me he doesn't have blazing speed.
    He's faster than he looks.

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 7:16 p.m.

    I guess you have to have something positive to write and read about if you are a fan of the Koogs.

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    Sept. 30, 2010 5:53 p.m.

    Jacobson has the tools to become a solid NFL slot receiver. I think he will have a great senior season when he has had a year to get on the same page with Heaps. Appo has all the metrics to play in the NFL as well. If all goes well I can see Heaps and Appo becoming a Hall-Collie type of combo.

    Who will step up and be the next BYU NFL TE following Pitta? We haven't even had one of these youngsters step up and be the next decent Cougar yet.

    Too bad Luke Staley had so many injuries. In his prime he was probably the most talented Cougar to ever step foot in Provo. He would be an NFL starting RB today if he hadn't had surgery on every part of his body.

    A few other former NFL Cougs who have done well - Todd Shell and Jason Buck. As far as receiver, I think Pendleton's dad Kirk played a couple of years for the Jets.

  • duck Saint George, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 4:15 p.m.

    That's because until recently BYU didn't have any real speed! Hopefully, things are getting better.

  • John Stewart Pill Vienna, VA
    Sept. 30, 2010 4:14 p.m.

    Magic happens!

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 3:39 p.m.

    It's because he's liv'n right.

    Nice work Austin, keep it up!

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Sept. 30, 2010 3:28 p.m.

    Great for Collie, but I have to admit I'm amazed at his success. He's good all right. The pros are too metrics oriented. Look at the first round flameouts to see a lot of guys who had the numbers just can't stick in the NFL. Then you have guys like Drew Brees who can hit crossbars from 30 yards (60 min) and be disgusted when he missed a couple. Too small, not a great arm, but hey, a pretty good QB.

    Lets see if Max Hall starts this year. Another QB too small with poor metrics. I'm rooting for him. BTW, he's trying to beat out an Oregon State QB that I didn't think would make the pros.

    I love to see guys succeed in spite of the numbers. Live by the numbers, die by the numbers?

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 3:21 p.m.

    "He is Fantasy Football GOLD this year! In our league, I drafted him in about the 10th round and is scoring more points than almost every other wide reciever. Thanks, Austin!"

    You're lucky, man... He was gone in the 2nd or 3rd round in my league, but so far he's been worth it!

  • Jealous U Alpine, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 2:58 p.m.

    "I just wouldn't like seeing him go out with a career ending knee injury."

    I feel the same way about Alex Smith, EyePatch.

  • TNCougar Brentwood, TN
    Sept. 30, 2010 2:23 p.m.

    Kudos to the Ute fans that wish him luck and recognize his talent!

  • TNCougar Brentwood, TN
    Sept. 30, 2010 2:22 p.m.

    I remember all the negative comments that many Ute fans posted about Austin and how he would never make it in the NFL... I am shocked to notice that none of those detractors are making comments now. I have to give them credit, they at least know when to kept their mouths shut. There are many factors that contribute to his success, most of them posted in many of the comments. All I know is that he has always been a stud! I congratulate him on his work ethic, talent and desire. He is a class act all around. It also makes me happy that through his play on the field he has effectively silenced many of his critics. Having said that, I am sure they can still come up with reasons why he is just not that good. Good luck with that!

  • THEeyepatch Murray, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 2:14 p.m.

    Yeah, Collie has done great. I just wouldn't like seeing him go out with a career ending knee injury. Enjoy Cougar fans.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Sept. 30, 2010 1:58 p.m.

    Considering the lackluster performance of previous BYU wideouts in the NFL, I didn't think Collie would be effective. But he has started his professional career in a remarkable fashion.

    I hope he has a long, successful career.

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Sept. 30, 2010 1:55 p.m.

    Interesting article, Doug. A couple observations. Holmoe was considered an NFL "standout"? By what measure? Sure he was a/some 49'er super bowl teams, but I don't think you could consider him a standout. Also, don't forget Todd Christensen actually entered the NFL as a fullback. It wasn't until his 3rd time, the Raiders, that we was moved to TE. Listing him as a tight end with Chad Lewis and Itula Mili gives the impression he was a TE at the Y. Nope. Let's hope Collie keeps it going strong. Go Cougs!

  • IndianaCoug Bloomington, IN
    Sept. 30, 2010 1:44 p.m.

    RE: Sloppy J.
    You're right--the Colts (and specifically Manning) really wanted him. We love him around here, not just because he produces, but because he is the kind of player that all coaches love. He's a workhorse, doesn't have any off-the-field issues, and he does his homework. Collie is one of the smartest receivers in the NFL, which more than compensates for his lack of speed. It also doesn't hurt that he practices harder than anyone and has a great relationship with Manning. It's nice to see a former cougar having success.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 1:24 p.m.

    Jay Miller was a great receiver, slow, but always open despite double coverage. If I were a young BYU receiver I would check out the old films. I think Jay had a bad knee at the end.

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Sept. 30, 2010 12:55 p.m.

    I agree CHS 85, I drafted Collie in my FF league in like the 9th or 10th round and he is destroying most other receivers that were drafted way ahead of him.

    It also helps that most teams are double teaming Reggie Wayne and Dallas clark, thus leaving Collie with awesome 1 on 1 matchups.

    Keep it up Austin! I love watching the Colts now to see #17 catch passes.

  • mulattocougar pinellas park, fl
    Sept. 30, 2010 12:19 p.m.

    Who is doing the research on this article? How can anyone writing about BYU football not know Golden Richards was a BIG part of BYU football, and did NOT transfer to Hawaii after his freshman year, but until just before his senior season. I read it was because of the change to a running game, the school said he flunked out. Golden denies this. Thus, Co;;ie is NOT the first BYU product to make it in the NFL, Golden is.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 12:09 p.m.

    Collie benefited greatly against the Broncos because their defense was hyper-focused on shutting down Wayne. If teams (like Jacksonville this week, as mentioned by a previous poster) decide to focus on Collie, then Wayne will benefit. Either way, the Colts benefit. Mediocre or even good defensive teams will struggle to shutdown more than one impact WR.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 12:03 p.m.

    He is Fantasy Football GOLD this year! In our league, I drafted him in about the 10th round and is scoring more points than almost every other wide reciever. Thanks, Austin!

  • LeonardL Midvale, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 11:07 a.m.

    I think if Austin, keeps this up, it will only make the NFL look closer at the other BYU recievers, and Denis Pita, could be a big impact player as well, I would love to see these guys on the same team. Even better if Max Hall was throwing to them again.

  • Cosmo Springville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 10:53 a.m.

    Congrats Collie!

    We're glad you're doing well with the Colts and wish you the best!

    Goooo Cougars! (and Colts)

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Sept. 30, 2010 10:36 a.m.

    Good job Austin! Best of luck, health and success in the future.

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 10:27 a.m.

    Congrats to Austin Collie. I am one of the ute fans who thought he wouldn't make it. He has proved me wrong. I give him a lot of respect. He has learned to shut his mouth and go to work, and it has provided great returns for him. I expect him to continue to get better from here. Best of luck to him!

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    Sept. 30, 2010 10:27 a.m.

    Blazing speed is not a requirement for being a very successful WR in the NFL.

    Jerry Rice wasn't that fast (reportedly only 4.71), but, like Austin Collie, Jerry found ways of getting open.

  • Roosevelt Roosevelt, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 10:18 a.m.

    All I know is Glen Koslowski was slow in Tecmo Bowl but he could sure catch. Hope Collie can continue his success.

  • Sloppy J St. Louis, MO
    Sept. 30, 2010 10:00 a.m.

    There's no denying that luck plays a part in any player's success, from the choices his parents make when they're kids, to his ability to avoid injury (Luke Staley, anyone?), to the team that drafts him. Admittedly, playing with Peyton Manning would help any receiver look good.

    One mitigating fact hasn't been mentioned, though . . it wasn't like Collie was randomly drawn out of a hat by the Colts. Refer to an SI article from last year (I forget the month) . . Manning specifically wanted Collie. I think even Colts haters would confess that Manning has one of the sharpest football minds ever seen on a field, and, wanting to improve his team's chances, did what research and scouting he could to find a solid #3 receiver that would fit their offense and culture. His answer: Austin Collie. I think his opinion has been validated so far. That's not luck. That's playing your way onto an NFL legend's radar.

  • coconut Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 9:48 a.m.

    Even a 4.5 is not that fast anymore for a wideout in the NFL, but along with his quickness and route running, Austin is a hard check for most NFL db's just like Welker is at New England.

    Sept. 30, 2010 9:47 a.m.

    Detmer made starts for four different teams. Led the Eagles to the playoffs one year, and stuck around the league for 14 seasons. Brett Favre has been quoted as saying that Detmer is the smartest football player he has ever met. Pretty good if you ask me!!!

  • Golfhack20 West Jordan, Ut
    Sept. 30, 2010 9:35 a.m.

    What a great kid. Grow up already Let it all go. 4 & 18, Magic Happens, those are things said in the past. Let us live in the now. Collie is a good kid. He is working his tail off and he is representing BYU and the Church well. Good luck Austin. Coming from a Ute fan that is easy to say, you are a special athlete, and work for everything you receive. Keep it up...

  • Matthew Clovis, CA
    Sept. 30, 2010 9:34 a.m.

    Ute fan here to satisfy your desires for praise and credit where it's due. (Mostly I'd like to quash the feelings Y Grad and CougarBlue have about being better than me and my fellow fans.)

    I hated watching the Utes play against Collie. No one would hate him if he wasn't good. He really did play at an amazing level that seemed to lift the rest of the team. Too bad there's no such leadership now.

    Collie will continue to do well (not hard to admit). He's a classy guy (unlike Hall), a good member of my church, and he deserves to enjoy success for his efforts.

    Soon we won't be in the same conference, so I can root for BYU again. I wish they had talent like Collie. I think they stink, and it's a real shame. I also think independence will do more harm than good, but I'm certainly patient enough to wait and see.

  • Hanksboy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 9:22 a.m.

    Robinson forgot another outstanding former BYU offensive lineman, Mike Keim, who made major contributions to the NFL.

  • Tarheel Ute Colorado Springs, CO
    Sept. 30, 2010 9:20 a.m.

    Collie has sufficient talent, smarts but not blinding speed. And, as the color commentators suggested Sunday night, Collie is still relatively unknown if not always respected. I suspect after his first three starts, Jacksonville’s defensive coordinators, and DCs from this point on, will pay particular attention to the now highly touted Manning-Collie relationship.

    Collie certainly has the potential to join the likes of Ed McCaffrey, Cris Collinsworth and Steve Largent, first tier, notably white wide receivers who were known for their toughness, great hands, precise routs and fearless response to hard hits, but also discounted for their lack of athleticism and speed (maybe not Largent — he was pretty fast). Others, second tier, more journeyman like wide outs, also with similar abilities, such as Glen Kozlowski, Joe Jurevicius, Wes Welker and Wayne Chrebet had serviceable careers but only sporadic spectacular runs.

    Collie’s success may well depend on how the Colts offensive coordinators continue to outcoach their defensive counterparts and whether Collie remains Peyton’s primary target.

    While too early to gauge, I’m betting Collie will have a career similar to McCaffrey and Collinsworth.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:56 a.m.

    You could see this guy was a cut above, when as a Freshman, he burned Notre Dame for a long touchdown pass.

    It's not just Manning making him look good, or being drafted by the Colts. This guy has been a winner at every level and was simply not going to be denied.

    There are more than just a few NFL GM's kicking themselves right about now.

    Don't underestimate the role, playing in abscurity on the Mountain, had on his 4th round draft status.

    Now, BYU players will once again "Be Seen" by going Independent.

    And thus, the future holds promise again, for players to receive the recognition they deserve.

    This year being the exception of course.

    It's not a coincidence, that the last Major National Award (excluding Pitta's Consensus All-American)was
    the Doak Walker Award to Luke Staley.

    Which was while BYU was still playing on ESPN, and before the rotten Mtn. Network.

    It's Good to be Home.

    Remember, BYU recruits....

    Every Home Game, most away, on National TV.

    ESPN, ABC, ESPN 2 or U or BYU-TV. Same day re-broadcasts.

    Beats Fox Regional, Hello Utah, crickets, crickets?

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:48 a.m.

    All the Utah fans who said he wouldn't make it in the NFL can eat your hearts out. This guy torched your best db's on a regular basis.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:48 a.m.

    Collie is one of the reasons why they won 10 games while he was there. He was so much better than the average WR at byu, the loss in talent is noticable.
    Manning has full faith in him so he should continue to have great games.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:44 a.m.

    The timing was just right and good for him. Who said he was too slow? Well, he was picked from the right team, at the right time and chemistry. Enjoy your career!

  • TJ2407 Springville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:31 a.m.


    I do think that Manning has helped Collie a lot by getting him the ball with good throws and by teaching him in practice but I will admit that it is not all Manning and the Colts. Collie is pretty good and deserves credit

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:31 a.m.

    Kids want to be picked in the top ten of the draft for big money, but then go play for a poor team. Collie hit the magic formula. Get picked at the end of round and play for a contending team, and the money is still good.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:23 a.m.

    Hard to trust a story where the author states " BYU, who practically invented the college passing game" and says Ty Detmer was an NFL stand-out. Ty was much more of an NFL sit-down.

    Austin Collie is doing amazing things for the colts. He was a key component of the team last year that made a good run for the Lombardi, and I expect him to be huge again this year. He is deceptively quick and runs routes better than 1/2 the starting receivers in the NFL. He also picked up on Mannings rythym early, which is something the greats do (rice, T.O. Sharpe, smith, etc.).

    Expect great things from Collie and a long career.

    ... and hopefully Austin can keep that attitude that his teams the best and the rest are garbage. It made a lot of people not like him when he was at byu, but you cannot say he isnt a team player.

    Good Luck

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:20 a.m.

    Love watching Collie. I know you didn't intend to list every single BYU player to make a significant impact in the NFL. But just a reminder about one Cougar who almost always gets left off the list. Virgil Carter played QB in the NFL for 10 years and was named both the Bears and Bengals offensive MVP. Also the first QB to run the West Coast Offense.

  • tron527 Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:08 a.m.

    Was it just me or did Mark Bellini sound a little jealous when he insinuated that the difference between him and Austin was luck? Also BYU receivers are not always slow white guys with good hands. Mark seemed to forget that BYU has had slow guys of other ethnicity's as well like Margin Hooks or O'Neill Chambers.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Sept. 30, 2010 7:41 a.m.

    Oh yewties!, oh yeeewwwties! Come out! Come out wherever you are!

    Ha! Ha! Come on, BYU haters, just admit it. It isn't 'just' Peyton Manning. It isn't 'just' luck. Austin Collie has got TALENT!

    Go Cougars!

  • Laser North Liberty, IA
    Sept. 30, 2010 7:19 a.m.

    Great article considering you and the rest of ute-dom seemed to relentlessly attack him for answering a set up question, to take a free shot at his rival (remember 4th and 18) , with tact. It's about time someone from the red group says, "Sorry, we were just upset we lost."

  • sports fan Provo, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 6:40 a.m.

    I always like seeing Latter Day Saints do well in the NFL. i love watching Collie on sunday, its a lot better than watching him play against the utes.

  • Tdelta Springfield, VA
    Sept. 30, 2010 6:27 a.m.

    Collie's efforts last Sunday helped the Colts
    beat the Denver Broncos. Jacksonville is next.

  • Fibonacci Centerville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 6:26 a.m.

    I'd say his 'Utah' based detractors who assured us all of his NFL demise ought to be enjoying their crow about now. As great as Austin's been in the NFL so far, I predict he's just getting started.

  • financenco Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 6:24 a.m.

    he was the key I think in BYU not going undefeated last year. Other then the Tightends, they had no outside threat, such as him, and they are still looking for it now. So had he stayed last year, you can imagine what could have been the case. Now you have a bunch of new kids, outside of the lineman, learning their way, that is almost unheard of these days. That is QB, RB, TE, and Receiver.

  • texlds Carrollton, TX
    Sept. 30, 2010 6:16 a.m.

    Don't you mean the Colt defeated Denver? They play Jacksonville this coming week.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Sept. 30, 2010 6:12 a.m.

    I loved to hear the nay-sayers complain that anybody could be a star receiver with Manning throwing the passes. Undoubtedly explains why Austin was such a star at BYU.

    Another great quarterback was throwing the passes.

    Anyway, sure says a lot for work ethic. What was the quote, "work hard, live right?"

    Hoping for some Austin Collie-style magic Friday night.

  • fooseball wicha friens Spring, TX
    Sept. 30, 2010 6:05 a.m.

    Magic happens.

  • Frozen Chosen Savage, MN
    Sept. 30, 2010 5:46 a.m.

    The guy's a stud - what can you say! Having success as a receiver in the NFL is tricky; you need the right scheme and the right QB to match your skills and then you need the opportunity.

    It's clear that Collie made the right decision when he left school early, that's for sure.

  • Tdelta Springfield, VA
    Sept. 30, 2010 4:11 a.m.

    Collie's efforts last Sunday helped the Colts
    beat the Denver Broncos. Jacksonville is next.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Sept. 30, 2010 12:22 a.m.

    Good luck to Austin and I hope he stays healthy. Make BYU proud with your production and speed will be secondary.

    Go Courgars and everything that is, was and will be Cougar.