Funny how things work out -- I'm now glad that this year my Cougars are lost in
the obscurity of the.mtn. There's no better place to hide.
jake heaps = ben olson | 12:40 p.m. Sept. 29, 2010 Ottawa, ON Most
HB could have thrown it and hit wide open receivers vs Nevada.Eastern Washington scored 3 TDs vs Nevada and BYU's only TD came off of a
turnover in the red zone. The turnover did not occur in the
redzone, the ball was recovered at the nevada 36 yardline. Yes still a short
field but not at or inside the nevada 20 like you are suggesting.
Gracious George, "If he wanted to be part of a winning team(a real
winning team, not that fake one down south), he would have played at Utah. If he wanted a real shot at being a BCS buster and winner, at playing in
a conference with some real competition, where he would have been able to get
the exposure he wanted in the PAC-12, he would have come to Utah. Instead, he'll get to reign on third-tier ESPN channels and BYU-TV, the
absolute joke of football networks. Have (no) fun."ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? This has to be one of the most ludicrous statements yet.
If Jake Heaps' intentions were to only follow a team with high BCS expectations,
membership in a large conference, and a chance at a national title, he most
certainly WOULD NEVER CONSIDER UTAH.This young man could have gone
to any Div I program, full-ride. If he were pursuing the things you mention, do
you seriously think he would take Utah over Florida, Alabama, Oregon, USC,
Texas, or any other big-name program? Give me a break. Utah will only get the
Pac-10 scraps for recruiting.
Juice, Otis, mussing,Just checked out Rival's Quarterback Rankings,
it is very interesting. I agree with the top 10 quarterbacks, but Rivals has
Jordan Wynn ranked above Wisconsin's Scott Tolzien. I would probably reverse
positions and place Jordan Wynn at 24th and Tolzien at 23rd. Tolzien will be
playing in the NFL shortly. I loved Kellen Moore's ranking and agree with it
100%. He will also be playing in the NFL shortly.
Jordan Wynn = 1973 Gremlin (operating a full speed)Jake Heaps
= Bugati Veyron (just getting warmed up)By mid-season, Heaps will be
pulling even with Wynn. By next season, Wynn will be but a tiny image in Heaps
mussingaround,Yes, Wynn is currently ranked 23rd. Go to Rivals
Quarterback Rankings. Wynn was actually 19th in the nation after the PITT game,
but dropped a few spots because of missing two games. Don't worry though, Wynn
will be in the top ten shortly.
I really can't believe some people are really trying to compare Jordan Wynn and
Jake Heaps. That would be like trying to compare a 1973 Gremlin with a 2010
Porsche 911. The college football experts and analyists believe that Jordan
Wynn is among the best college football quarterbacks in the nation right now
(See rankings for Rivals, Yahoo, CBS, etc). Jake Heaps is currently ranked
112th. Jordan Wynn will only continue to get better and better. He will be a
top 10 quarterback by year's end.
Otis SLots of hot air, but the truth is, Wynn isn't even on the
list, is he?To be included on the list of national passing leaders,
a player must have at least 14 attempts per team's games played.Wynn
hasn't thrown enough passes to qualify, has he? Get back to us when
Wynn has played enough to qualify, otherwise, stop boring us with your
meaningless predictions and speculation.Two games, which is the
equivalent of what Wynn and Heaps have played so far this season, isn't close to
enough information to make any valid comparison or prediction.
@PAC manVery very well said!!!! And the Ute fans were also spouting off
about how Cain had the highest QB rating in the nation two weeks ago. What was
his rating last week again? The only reason the Utes won the Pitt game was
because(they are overrated obviously) and their QB was starting his first game
on the road and they call a pass play for him in OT, stupid decision by the
coaches and what else would the kid have done with that much pressure. The
Utesies have two mediocre QB's and a patsy schedule so far. That is a fact.
@Otis Spurlock aha aha haaha hahahaha, that really made me laugh, Wynnie
has played in two games against pitiful opponents he hasn't proven one thing yet
this year, If he is rated in the top ten on rivals after playing real opponents
next month I will buy his jersey and grow a 12 yr olds mustache. Not a chance he
does as well against TCU's defense or Air Force. Heaps will look 20 times better
as a sophmore than Wynnie will ever muster this year, you can mark it down
I don't know why it really upsets many byu fans that Jordan Wynn is ranked as
one of the best college quarterbacks in the nation right now, and he is only a
sophomore. The future is red, crimson red.As far as Jake Heaps, he
might be an okay quarterback by his junior or senior year if he keeps on
improving. He will in all likelihood, never be ranked as one of the best
college quarterbacks like Jordan Wynn is right now.
Most HB could have thrown it and hit wide open receivers vs Nevada.Eastern Washington scored 3 TDs vs Nevada and BYU's only TD came off of a
turnover in the red zone.
Seriously? what is wrong with you so called BYU fans?You should be ashamed
of yourselves. Since he arrived on campus Jake Heaps has been
splitting reps, and began the season rotating series in games. This stunted his
growth as a QB and is directly responsible for the poor offensive showing in the
first 4 games of the season. (Which is also the #4 toughest schedule in college
football at this point) But this offense has had to constantly adjust and
readjust to two different types of QB's and essentially two different styles of
offense.After ONE WEEK of having the full control of the offense and
having the opportunity to receive all the reps and all the focus. You are
calling Jake over-hyped and "not as advertised" because he is not the best QB in
the country yet? PATHETIC!--Look at Landry Jones and OU last season.
Losing their starting, Heisman trophy winning QB to injury, then going 7-5 with
an undeveloped freshman.--Give Jake and the offense some time. They
are very young and have a lot of growing and developing to do. Being patient
will pay off... Mark it down.
Fresno Girl is correct, any time Utah does well, its that much better for BYU
seeing as how we have about half of their coaching staff from BYU. As someone
from that area, any time Utah has done something good, I've received compliments
about their staff and how they're from BYU.
You're right, QB at BYU is the most monitered athlete in the state and it isn't
even close. Keep the development going Jake, we'll start getting some of these
*yawn* spuryAt this point in his freshman year, Jordan Wynn hadn't
played a single game, so his passing efficiency rating was 0.00.A
91.79 rating dwarfs a 0.00 rating!Jordan didn't play until the 8th
game of his freshman year, starting against lowly Wyoming. Jordan was 9 of 14,
82 yds, 1 TD for a 137.06 rating.Against TCU, Wynn's rating was
111.55.Against BYU, Wynn's rating was 86.91.Heaps' started his
first game against a Top 25 team in the fourth game of his freshman year. He was
24 of 45, 229 yds, 0 TD for a 96.08 rating.We'll see how Jake is
doing by the 8th game of his freshman year and how he plays against teams like
New Mexico, Wyoming and Colorado State, then we'll have some apples to apples
comparisons of Heaps and Wynn.Until then, comparing a true freshman
who has played barely two games total and only started one game, to a sophomore
who started 6 games last season and two games this season, is a silly
Rivals has Jordan Wynn ranked as the 23rd best quarterback in the nation this
week on their power rankings. I only see upside for Jordan Wynn this year.
Seriously expect Jordan Wynn to be in the top 10 best quarterbacks this year in
the quarterback rankings. Not too bad for a sophomore. Top 10 is much better
1. The only meaningful comparison is games played to date. How good or bad
future opponents might be is irrelevent. To date Utah has played the 112th worst
schedule; BYU has played the 4th toughest schedule.2. Completely
dominating weak competition is a weak argument. How many times have we heard
Utah fans claim that a win is a win after squeaking by a weak New Mexico or
Colorado State team?3. Jake was rated the #1 QB prospect in the
country by several scouting services at the time he announced his decision to
sign with BYU. It's well documented in dozens of previously published stories;
take some time to look it up.4. Jake was voted the outstanding QB at
an elite QB camp last summer that included most of the top high school QBs.
Again, it's well documented in several of previously published stories; take
some time to look it up.5. If all you remember is Sims and Montana,
then obviously you've been living in a cave somewhere or not paying any
attention because Jake has been one of the most talked about high school QBs for
the last couple of years.
A couple of thoughts I had while reading this. 1st: Utah has not had
a strong schedule but 2 of the games are not their fault. UNLV and UNM are
conference games. BYU will play them so foget those 2 because the scedule is a
wash. Air Force is a wash as well. So really you can only compare the other
games. Lets just compare non conference schedules. Right now BYU's looks
tougher. I think Pitt and ND will be better at year end but though. 2nd: Althought Utah has not played too tought of teams they are completely
dominating them. Not just winning but Dominating so give them some style points.
They deserve it. 3rd: From what I remember Sims who is not at
Alabama was ranked #1 QB in high school last year by ESPN U and Heaps was not in
the top 5. Who ranked him #1? I remember hearing names like Sims and Montana but
not Heaps. Who had him as #1? and he was not invited to the Under Armor game was
he? I don't remember seeing his name. I just looked on ESPN. Heaps was the #7 QB
What the naysayers are really revealing with their critiques of Jake is
just how little they really understand about football. Harsh, but
true!I've seen every BYU quarterback play since Gary Shiede and Jake
Heaps is the real deal. He's got the arm, the footwork, the football
IQ, the leadership ability, and the confidence (some may call it cockiness) to
be a great quarterback.He just needs some polishing; learning to
read defenses; and developing timing with his receivers.He reminds
me alot of a young Jim McMahon when Jim was competing with Marc Wilson for
I went back and rewatched the game, Jake made some very nice throws. He also
missed on some throws and he was victimized by some drops (5 that I counted and
one for sure would of gone for a TD to Ashworth). He had another throw into the
corner of the endzone where DiLuigi caught it but was ruled out of bounds.
However it was very close as his foot may or may not of grazed the white line I
really couldn't tell for sure on the replay. His reads were very good for the
most part, he didnt force the ball into coverage and usually found the open
reciever. He needs to work on his touch a bit especially when rolling to his
right and throwing on the run, he missed Jacobsen wide open, the ball sailed
away and wasnt anywhere close to Jacobson. There were other missed throws that
were simply due to timing and not being on the same page as the receivers.
Overall, Jake was pretty solid, especially in the second half, several times he
lead the offense into the blue zone, they just have to do a better job of
Over hyped.He is not ready.He isnt better than dozens of
other Freshman.He missed easy throws. The mental part he will and
he will also adjust to the game speed.But poor throws and no touch
lead to incompletions.Over hyped.
The answer to the question is ZERO. But did Jake Heaps make all those fade
route calls? Or did the coaches "see something they thought they could take
advantage of". I for one am not scrutinizing the QB as much as those calling
his plays. High percentage passes and confidence in his receivers are the
secrets to expedited maturity for Mr. Heaps. Rise and shout!
Look I am a Cougar fan, but most of my fellow Cougar fans sound ridiculous (the
right way to spell that word). Tell me what flashes of brilliance has Jake Heaps
shown? Why are you believers? What one single thing has he done in a game that
made you sit up and say...now that guy's going to be All American? I can't think
of one thing, just flashes of mediocrity intermingled with a lot of poor
playing. "He has the potential to be one of the best QB's ever to play for
BYU..." Says who? Says the media who labeled him as the #1 QB prospect? Didn't
they say that about Ben Olsen and he sure turned out to be special didn't he?
Look at all the former #1 NFL draft pick busts. Let's be realistic here and stop
making outrageous claims about what he can become until he actually shows us
The key is for BYU in the past is the TE. We need one to step up for this
offense to be what everyone wants. The recievers are not helping the situation
out at all either..catch the ball please. Heaps is the man and will continue to
get better and better, then we can listen to everyone say the new it all along
that he was this good.
Jake Heaps has the potential to be one of the best QBs ever to play for
BYU, and that's saying alot!The fact that as a true freshman in only
his fourth game with the program he's already starting and being scrutinized
shows just how good he already is.The naysayers will squawk because
Jake is surrounded by so many other young players and he's not putting up gaudy
numbers, yet, but the naysayers will be proven wrong before Jake has finished
his career at BYU.Most of these same naysayers were convinced that
Collie wasn't fast enough or good enough to play in the NFL.Good
luck against the Aggies Jake and company.Go Cougars!
Jordan Wynn is the best quarterback in the MWC after Dalton of TCU. Jake Heap's
stats are horrible (112th quarterback rating). Jake Heap needs alot of
improvement to even be considered an average quarterback. I have been very
impressed with Jordan Wynn's poise, accuracy and stats. However, if you really
want to see the best quarterback in the country, just watch Boise, baby!Go Boise Blue!!
Hey Jake....Hey Jake. You are doing just fine. Give yourself time. Always strive
to do better each week. You will be just fine. For all the naysayers ..... wait
until next year, and the next and the next (unless he pulls-out and goes pro
early barring injuries, etc.) year. He will be one of the all-time best QB's at
BYU and will get All-American status. Bronco's 1st at the position. Everything
will start to jell this year and get better. This I am sure of. Give us a good
game at USU. I will be there and it will be well worth it for my travels from
Jake Heaps is OVERRATED and has been since he signed. As for Jordan Wynn, he
isn't much better. It isn't fair to judge Heaps after 1 game. However he is the
one who put all the pressure on his own shoulders acting like he was going to
the NFL out of high school. He acted like he was Labron James coming out with
the whole press conference thing. I wish BYU luck on his progression, I don't
think he will be an elite QB for the Y however. As far as the U goes, they
aren't in that much safer hands with Wynn either. The U has so much talent, they
are able to bail him out from looking too bad. Go Aggies!
Dear Big Hapa and Fresno Girl,1. BYU Administration ran Norm Chow
out of town. Period.2. Robert Anae is no Norm Chow.
Robert Anae couldn't fight his way into a first down.3. Robert Anae
has been riding the coat tails of John Beck and Max Hall. 4. Bring
Norm Chow and all his attitude and anger back to Provo!
Gracious George | 4:08 p.m. Sept. 28, 2010 West Jordan, UtahSo, if BYU wins a game it's a joke, but if the Utes win a game it's pure
heaven?Have fun in the PAC Whatever # They Come Up With, playing the
likes of Washington State, Cal and the other bottom feeders.And stop
drinking so much of the red coolaid.
RE: GG Love at home, there is joy in every sound when there's love at home.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder GG, in the eye of the beholder. The true narcissistic skeptic really needs to come out of its shell GG,
just let it go you will feel much better.Yes sir you sure know how
to beat up on others with your slashing / cutting whit and your scathing
diatribe. Please, go be angry and bizarre in a less public setting.
It is far less embarrassing.
RE: HedgehogFunny what happens when you are living right on and off
the field:) Tongue in cheek.I'm liking the Utes chance.Cougars need to turn it around.
@ hedgehogNot to mention the utes have the weakest schedule in the
country. Which explains why the utes are 4-0.
@hedgehog 11:03amAnd you forgot one thing:The Cougars
have whipped the utes 3 of the last 4.
I guess Jake Heaps is having a little trouble standing the pressure of BYU, eh?
Maybe he should transfer to Weber State, or maybe Southern Utah. He
would be the best quarterback in the league, more than likely, and would begin
dominating the league from the beginning. Or if he wants to go back
to the cush job of being a backup or third-string, he can just transfer to Utah.
In two or three years from now he'll get the starting job there and
do to BYU what Ben Olson got to do to them at UCLA. If he wanted to
be part of a winning team(a real winning team, not that fake one down south), he
would have played at Utah. If he wanted a real shot at being a BCS
buster and winner, at playing in a conference with some real competition, where
he would have been able to get the exposure he wanted in the PAC-12, he would
have come to Utah. Instead, he'll get to reign on third-tier ESPN
channels and BYU-TV, the absolute joke of football networks. Have
Make no doubt, Heaps looks the part of a top NCAA QB....but he has a long way to
go before we compare him to the likes of McMahon or Young. He looks more like
Wynn throwing the ball out of bounds far over the heads of his intended
recievers.....but I will give him the benefit of the doubt? He looks every bit
as good as any QB Utah has produced..he just has some work to do before he is
going to be compared to the elite of BYU!
Whatever expectations you all had for Heaps.... just through them out the window
and let the kid grow and mature. He has had some growing pains but alot of
flashes of greatness. Every BYU fan knew that this was a rebuilding year, so
dont set the bar to high you will jus disappoint yourselves. Yes, and congrats
are in order for the Utes, they are 4-0 and are ranked 13th. The game to watch
will be when TCU comes to SLC. Stay the course all you True Blue fans, we will
get our day in the spotlight when all these young and talented players mature.
We have alot of great players on missions right now that will come back next
year and it will be a 10+ win season and a trip to the a better bowl than the LV
Bowl or the New Mexico bowl (thats the one we will all be at this year!) A good
and solid prediction will be a 7-5 season, a disappointment compared to the last
3 seasons, but a good season when you take into account the personnel loses.
Looke for a 14+ point when against USU this Friday!
re: cwebWe had one his name was Norm Chow remember. That is as
Edwards-esuqe as it gets, and he was run out of town.You are wrong I
was not screaming for a freshman, nor this bizarre QB duo thing that set Riley
up as the Bronco scapegoat, fall guy, or whatever you want to call it.This team has been sold two bill of goods,the first is, be the honorable and
upstanding man and you will have a place here, and two, don't be an upstanding
honorable man and your place is to START here.The blatant lack of
firer and passion that is so glaring on this years team has its roots a lack of
fallow through and the keeping of ones word.These players are not
all young impressionable 18 year olds, they are 24, 25 years of age, some even
older, married some with children yes men being led by a hyped up 18 year old
boy. Wrubell wrote another article about the lack of energy, missing
passion in this years squad, perhaps this is a the root. I am just sayin."POLY" Cougar Nation
Keep in mind that John Beck gave away a home game with Stanford by tossing a
boneheaded 4th quarter int and it wasn't until his Soph year, mid-season, where
he brought BYU back to win at New Mexico, the week after a horrible outing at
San Diego.I don't think Jake will need 1 1/2 seasons to get it right. He
can handle the pressure, any team he was going to sign with would also be
loading on the pressure. If you're a winning program the fans, and players
expectations are very high, and that means pressure. Only a select few have won
more games than BYU did in the previous three seasons and one of them wasn't the
yutz. One could go to Logan where few really care about the 7-11 losses
per year. Jake will be fine, I'm more concerned with the coaching staff and
their lack of judgement and mental lapses.
@Uteology, Hedgehog,Why are all of your posts just the same post,
over and over, everyday?How about mixing in a little bit of new
material once in awhile?
Wow ChuckyZ, you are right on. I can't wait for your next report. We must be
CWEB (Orem, UT) "Your title sounds very negative. I've not heard one fan near me
at the game criticize or scrutinize Heaps--only coaches and calls."sports fan (Provo, UT) "This is called scrutiny, Jake. It's an art the
second-guessers associated with BYU football have made an art form." One of the
most poorly written, repetitive statements i have ever seen in the printed word.
I agree with both comments. Not one of your better pieces, Dick. I
view this article as nothing more than "stirring the pot." You know better,
Dick. It's not all on the QB's plate, which is what your article alludes to. I've NEVER read a similar article about Anae. Let's some some indepth
investigative reporting on his diminishing offensive approach. His offensive
game plan for Heaps against Nevada was REDICULOUS! Nice 4th and 4 run! Then you
can write a critical article on the defensive front 7, which is rediculously
bad.Let's face it, BYU is, by far, a much younger team,especially in
the skilled positions, than it's been in years (thank, Harvey!). Here's to a
Cougs vistory Fri. night!
No second-guessing from me. By now, you have been waiting for my comments for a
few day. Sorry for the delay. I hope you are not holding your breath.Some of you keep saying the obvious-this is old, rehashed information. Tell
us please something that is new.Utah is a great team this year. BYU
is not a great team this year. Both have great people on the team including the
coaches. There is a huge reason why some of you have never been asked to be a
coach of anything. Utah has a better qb than BYU has right now.
So? Your point? Go ahead, tell us a thousand more times.Albany is
right. What some great teams to watch. Every Saturday is awesome. People
still go to the games--one never knows if history will be made. Who cares is
either team has a dismal season when watching football games is so much fun.Sorry it took me so long to set everything straight with everyone.
This season is about watching and supporting these young kids as they learn,
grow and gell as a team. The process will continue into spring and through next
fall camp. It would be fantastic if somehow a bowl game allows that progress to
accelerate with the added practices. But at this point, I am ok if we end up
with 4 wins as long as there is consisten improvement and effort. Like many fans, I have offered my share of criticism for this two-QB debacle.
And I believe it was a mistake. But now it is time to look to the future and we
have a nice future in place. It is just very young and inexperienced. I really
look for this team to be excellent by next September. This is a time that the
team needs more support than ever.And I can't wait to see how Timo
fits with this team once he returns from his mission. WR, Safety, RB? He is
probably one of the best athletes we have ever signed and he will only add to
the mix of these talented young kids.Go Cougs!!
Heaps will be fine. I am more concerned with who is going to step up and play
tight end. I liked Hoffman at wide receiver, hope to see more of him.
Coming from a Ute fan, I think Heaps is "Legit" and a stud... If the team could
get somebody to catch the ball and not put all of the load on Heaps shoulders
they could be tougher... Good Luck at Utah State!! It will take time to get back
to where you were... Best of Luck from this Ute Fan!!
I have seen enough small (albeit very small) sparks of good things from this
team so far to think that next year and beyond BYU should be able to be pretty
much back to normal. I think, in time, Heaps will be a good QB and the rest of
the team shows promise. Unfortunately BYU and its fans (such as me) have to
endure through this sub par season. But I am nearly 100% certain I am correct
when I say real BYU football WILL be back next year.
Uteology"Should you be complaining about Utah's SOS considering this
years BYU's scout team could have gone 12-0 playing BYU's 1984 schedule?"The reality is:BYU's 1984 schedule was good enough for BYU
to win a national championship.Utah's 2010 schedule isn't good
enough to even get the Utes into the national championship discussion.Ironically, BYU going 10-2 and finishing the regular season in the Top 25
would have done far more for Utah's BCS championship game chances than Utah
going 7-0 against the worst opening schedule in the country.
Hedgehog, remind me again who the Utes have played so far this year? Hmm, not a
single team with a winning record. I just hope that BYU fans have a lot more
class than these Ute posters who are so good at kicking a dog when it is down,
when Utah loses to Air Force and TCU, for starters, then goes on to the PAC 12
and has a .500 season at best. In reference to Jake Heaps, the media crowned him
the #1 QB prospect in the country, not him or his parents. Give the kid a
break. How quickly people who have never played a down of college football
pounce on those who are out there busting their butts every day in practice and
during games. Do you not already think these guys are struggling. They don't
need complete morons to point out their weaknesses. It's a good thing the BYU
coaches and players never read this crap, so proceed with the criticism because
it falls on deaf ears...they are too busy PLAYING while the rest of you only
wish you had/could.
@Hot Tub "Truth" MachineShould you be complaining about Utah's SOS
considering this years BYU's scout team could have gone 12-0 playing BYU's 1984
schedule?I wouldn't worry to much about Heaps, he's young and
will improve. I would be worried about BYUs defense that has been torched in 6
games in less than 3 seasons.
Try #2 since my 1st "scrutiny" was censored..."Somebody tell
me the percentage success rate of those fade routes BYU called for Heaps in the
blue zone against Nevada with football teams in general." - DHSpeaking of scrutiny, what is a blue zone? Is Dick Harmon a sports writer or
is he a PR man for BYU? As far as Heaps goes he's young and
needs time. He looks like a decent QB but so far seems to be over hyped in the
@ Hedgehog:I like Coach Whittingham. He's one of our former players
after all. And I LOVE to see you rooting for a Cougar!Good luck to
the Utes. They are my second favorite team and I wish our boy, Kyle, much
success with his football team. By the way, being all the way in
Michigan, why haven't you gotten over your fixation with us? You can't go a day
without catching up with the Cougars. It's fans like you, as well as fans like
me, who facilitated our ESPN deal. Thanks!
"And the Utes will be lucky to crack the Top 10 even if they go 7-0 before
starting their losing streak at Air Force"Truth Machine,
As a “truth machine” you must also realize just how truthfully sad
your statement is. If the only smack a tds fan can come with is when the Utes
will “crack the top 10” - when your team is not even close to
sniffing the rankings ( maybe 107th ?).The Utes will handle AF
because they have a defense. The Utes have a chance against TCU because
it’s in the RES.The Utes have at least 50% chance of going
undefeated and reaching a BCS bowl game this year. The tds have a 50% chance of
losing the remainder of its games this year and attending a great fireside.This is simply the “truth”.
Why is everyone so upset? This is one of the best months to begin college
football that I can remember. Too much negativity in here. Breathe, smile, and
OKFirst, everyone was whining that Riley was even in the mix and
Jake didn't get thrown into the fire right away. Now, many posters are whining
that Jake was ever in the mix and Riley didn't have the job right away. It's like reading a script of Friday Night Lights on these posts
sometimes. No matter what, no one is happy with what the Coaches are doing and
everybody seems to think they could do better. And CWEB, I remember
"fans" saying the same exact things about Norm Chow as they are now about Anae.
The more things change, huh?Jake will come along. He's young. He's
inexperienced. Go back and watch some of the first games of QBs we now consider
as our legends. We need to give the boy a chance.
I don't know why Heaps thinks he had his way with the Nevada defense. He
continually overthrew the deep pass and usually out of bounds too, His passing
yardage was padded by DiLuigi's running after the short catch and a final drive
after the game was already over. This kids has tons of talent but needs a
seriuos dose of humble pie.
Interesting these Wynn Heaps comparisons, if my memory is correct Wynn was not
in a game at this point in his freshmen season. It would be interesting to see
how good Wynn, Ponder, Jefferson, Locker, etc. would be with this very poor,
limited skilled, and inexperienced offense the Y has this year. The only real
criticism has to be how do you manage your team so that more than 50 percent of
the players participating this year are underclassmen and many are true
freshman. Ask any coach anywhere and they will tell you that this is a
situation no matter the level of talent that makes for lots of losses. Really,
this year is like a new coach coming in that needs time for his players to
mature to get the program successful again. The U has managed it much better in
having quality players with game experience to come in as stalwarts leave, and
then have talented underclassman to compete and push the first unit. It is
obvious that the Y's recruiting challenges-missions and honor code are
difficult, needs to be managed better, and the person that needs scrutiny for
this is the head coach.
"Meanwhile the Utes kick back with a perfect 4-0 record and 13th national
ranking..."And the Utes will be lucky to crack the Top 10 even if
they go 7-0 before starting their losing streak at Air Force.BYU's
scout team could have gone 7-0 playing Utah's opening schedule.Watch
for the Utes to drop in the polls after playing BYE this week.
Bugoff"BYU could spread the field..."With due respect
where do you get the idea that BYU does NOT spread the field? Sure, they like
to use a tight end and a power back (when they have one), but that does not mean
they don't spread the field. Using spread formations with wide splits has
always been their thing. Also curious how you are able to make judgments about
routes you can't possibly evaluate withhout coaches' films.Folks you
can't blame Anae for Heaps' progression reads. Highly unlikely that Anae tells
Heaps not to bother making a read and just throw over the top. The scouting
reports on Heaps are that he likes to gamble and throw deep. Nevada's secondary
took away his deep routes and he threw them anyway. That's just selfish play
and one of the reasons BYU's offense has been unproductive.
Can anybody tell me what happened to McKay Jacobsen. I haven't seen him play
this year. I've noticed some guy out on the field with the name Jacobsen on the
back of his jersey but I swear its not the same guy.Anybody???
Adjustments:Can BYU make any offensive adjustments?3
Total points in the last 3 games in the second half.That is right, they
are averaging 1 point in the last 3 games in the second half.The
defenses they have been playing aren't exactly great either. Nevada gave up 24
points to Eastern Washington, byu only scored 13 (the TD was off a fumble in the
redzone and one FG was when Nevada was stopped on 4th down in their own
territory).Sorry Heaps, but I think it should be Lark's turn to take
over, see what he can do, he couldn't do any worse.
Meanwhile the Utes kick back with a perfect 4-0 record and 13th national
ranking.AndHave two QB’s that could easily start
at the tds,Have two RB’s that would easily start at the tdsHave a league leading Defense that utilizes 12 D-line each game. (any could
start at the tds)Have an Offense that has scored 112 points in the last
two games. Have a Defense that has given up only 13 points in the last two
games.Have a “Coach of the year” winner in KWhitt.Have
the longest bowl winning record in the Nation.Have the second longest home
winning record in the Nation.Oh and my favorite, The last team to
beat 1# ranked Alabama
Leadership: This may be what's hurting the most for the Cougar offense. Heaps
is confident, but is he the offensive leader? I don't think so. Unga's
experience and talent is severely missed. Maybe Reynolds/Jacobsen can step up
and fill the void. I think it has to be someone besides the true freshman. I
won't give up on the team, but I'm not sure they win this Friday. Hoping for
Coach Brocno would give his right arm if he could trade Heaps for Jordan Wynn.
One of the drawbacks with College Football is now so much is expected and
coaches don't have much time to rebuild or reload programs. The fans and media
expect to win now. BYU has been fortunate to not loose many Asst. Coaches to
other programs, but some times change is good. Good luck BYU and Utah....
It is time to move past Nelson. The coaches decided in the Spring to go with 2
QBs (Bronco Interview). Maybe for cultural reasons. They knew Nelson could not
throw and this style did not fit and he would get injured. They
spent all summer preparing for 2 QBs (Bronco Interview). They put a few special
plays in for Nelson. BUT they rotated QBs. I watched UAB run 2 QBs very
effectively but their running QB came in for special situations and was a clear
back up. Bronco/Doman rotated co QBs. Bad mistake in hindsight. They
got Heaps game experience with the 2 QB system or things would be a lot worse.
After the sacks of the FSU game Heaps has good reason to be jumpy.
He is being very conservative with his throws. He has only one INT. The pass percentage will go up as 1. the receivers run consistent
routes.2. He gets pass protection.3. He gets confidence in key
receiver's ability to make plays. Look for Hoffman to get more
throws. Heaps is learning Hoffman will go after what ever comes his way. He needs a TE and the FB for short yards.
TJ2407--Exactly, he was solid between the 20's, but the passes he missed
were in critical situations and cost the cougars points... But that's where this
experience will help. Hopefully in the next couple games he can gain more
confidence in himself and his receivers so they can find the end zone in tough
games instead of losing with just field goals from our offense.
Come on- after one start? Scrutiny is something the media is driving. We all
know that Jake will be great. Just give him a few starts. I predict by the end
of the year he will be better than jordan wynn.
It is time for some of you to chill out.Jake is a 19 years old
freshman and has stepped in to QB a team that lost virtually every offensive
contributor from last year. And you people are whining that he isn't an All
American yet?Jake has the equivalence of 2 1/2 games of playing time
having shared the duties in the spring and fall camps, and playing the 4th
toughest schedule in the nation. But he isn't in the top of the rankings yet?
Shock, horror, dismay!His parents hired a publicist! How can this
be? He has spent his life being groomed to be a QB! How terrible! Let's
criticize his family from our comfy anonymous couches. How brave you are!Infidel06. Do you really contend that we are having a "dismal" start to
the season because we DIDN'T redshirt Jake? Where would we be if he had
redshirted? I attended many practices. In my not so humble opinion Jake was
the only QB we had. Lark/Munns both back from missions were/are not ready.
Biggest mistake, we misused an athletic Nelson.The sky is not
falling. Better days are ahead.
I understand that his passing yards of 229 are solid. but had his way with the
defense? Good for him for not throwing an interception but he also had a goose
egg in the TD column. I really do not care how many yards a QB throws for if he
fails to throw a touchdown. Who cares about yards just get the ball in the end
Any realist BYU fan could see that this was going to be a rebuilding year.
Not only was BYU replacing the key starting QB, but the Cougars were also
replacing almost all of their skill position offensive players and most of their
front seven defensive players. Lots of young, inexperienced talent, with lots of
potential, but needing time and game experience to develop.Adding to
that challenge was a very difficult opening schedule that would have tested even
last year's senior laden team.2-2 would have been a good start, but
1-3 is not the end of the world.The schedule gets much easier except
for TCU and Utah.I understand Bronco wanting to preserve the culture
of the BYU program by making players earn their starting positions, but when it
became clear that Jake was the more talented QB, Heaps should have been named
starter, with a wildcat option designed for Riley.If Heaps had been
named the starter during fall camp, The Cougars would have had 6-8 weeks to work
out the timing issues that are now plaguing the passing game.Have
patience that this year we're laying the groundwork for future success.
In the future don't do the following:1) Hire a publicist as a senior
in HS.2) Make your college selection at a sports bar.3) State your
intentions of not wanting to render volunteer service to your church.4)
Forcast ten wins instead of one.
Watching Jordan Wynn play as a true freshman last year really shows me that
Jordan Wynn was head and shoulders better than Heaps. Jordan Wynn was so
composed, accurate and a real leader. Heaps looks lost and in way over his
head. I guess the key is less pickle juice, less time at Iggy's and more time
Oregonute,Thanks. It is nice to have a Utah fan post positive
comments. I wish you and your team well. go Cougars.
Jake will be fine. Some throws were bad but a lot of the play calls were even
worse.Chucking balls to a fading receiver is hard enough for a
veteran QB. Calling that play 5-6 times in the last few minutes of the game last
saturday was rediculous and Anae should be held accountable for that. I remember last year when the Cougs played the utes, Jordan Wynn over-threw
his receiver on at least 3-4 deep balls. I beleive its because when QB's are
young they are very afraid of throwing a INT. Jake was the same way, he missed
badly on some throws but I think it will only be a matter of time until he
starts connecting on those on a regular basis. Up until last week
Jake was splitting time, splitting practice reps and splitting valuable
experience with another QB. It has only been his 'baby' for one week. (not to
mention the 4th hardest sked in the country up to this point) Give him some time
and be patient, let him make mistakes and he will grow into a very good QB. Go Cougs!!! Beat USU!!!
sports fanAre you kidding? You called Dick out with this:"one of the most poorly written, repetitive statements i have ever seen in the
printed word."and then followed it up with:"i never
count BYU out, too good of coaches too good of players. they will be back, if
not later this year than next year."Come on ... I know they teach
better than that on the hill. I mean, that is really funny!(I did
appreciate your other points, however.)
I'm a Ute fan and I see the potential in Heaps. The Y will be just fine, give
them some time. By the end of the season you will see a completely different
team. What I am getting from the past few articles written by Harmon is that he
is really doing the scrutinizing. I have never seen Harmon flip flop so fast in
my life. He was all for the 2 QB system at first and wrote of how effective it
will be an now he blasts the coaches for doing it. Harmon, you sound like a
rainy day weather fan. Like them when they are good and bash them when they are
bad. Get over it.
Jake's parents hired their own publicist, didn't they? What's their
explanation?Sorry, but the 'entitlement' factor that seems to be
driving this team to satisfy Jake's (and unrealistic fans, parents) needs in
order to keep him from taking that entitlement attitude (his or that ascribed to
his 'camp') to another school is potentially a damning factor for this team. I
am uncomfortable with unproven prospects and anticipation alone being able to
wield so much influence.I sympathize with Coach Mendenhall in trying
to design an offensive scheme, and split time between two QBs' styles. Having
not settled that Jake might should have spent the year reshirted now means a
potentially dismal season, with the precedents it might set for future
blue-chippers, and that everyone has to be patient with what comes with
developing an untested QB, and a receiver corps who have difficulty separating
themselves or catching the ball.
The thing that makes me nervous about Heaps is that many of his mistakes in the
last game were simply bad throws. I'd expect a true freshman to have problems
reading coverages, adjusting to the speed of the defense, etc. but he totally
blew several throws, especially of the deeper variety that I'm sure he's been
making for years. Yes, there were too many fade routes, but maybe one of them
would have worked if Heaps hadn't thrown them all out of bounds! All that
said, I do believe that the play calling and the receivers are a bigger problem,
but I wasn't the only one there on Saturday getting a bit tired of missed
"Having a good, experienced quarterback might be the single biggest factor in
determining success of a program," ...So why didn't Bronco realize
that a few weeks back? If he did, he would know to go with Riley at starting
QB.Seems like he is still learning while on the job.
"This is called scrutiny, Jake. It's an art the second-guessers associated with
BYU football have made an art form."one of the most poorly written,
repetitive statements i have ever seen in the printed word. Heaps
will get better as the team matures, i never count BYU out, too good of coaches
too good of players. they will be back, if not later this year than next
I hope BYU doesn't ruin this Freshman. After this season, he may be
shell-shocked. Playing him from game 1 was the wrong decision, not allowing him
to season and mature. In the time Bronco has been in charge, this is his
biggest mistake and I hope it doesn't cost BYU big time.
Heaps has just not been very good and it is easy to see now why Bronco favored
Riley Nelson. 13 points against the WAC 2nd place team, who happens
to have a poor defense, is not going to cut it. I did not understand Jake's
quote after the game that he "had his way" with Nevadas defense. Really?
I watched Dalton against SMU. He was not that impressive. TCU is not as good
this year.BYU is fully capable of switching from a TE/Unga/Tonga
offense to a WR offense if the WRs get it together. BYU needs at
least one TE to step up. They need Kariya to play as well as last year. I would suggest that part of Heaps problem is getting hurried and
sacked. That was especially true against FSU. Maybe he held the ball waiting for
the WRs to get open? He needs to emulate Rogers of Green Bay. He
gets rid of the ball very quickly. That of course requires RBs and TEs who can
get open in short yardage and catch the ball. Heaps will get the
blame, but how many TDs and INTs would Hall have at this point with the WRs,
TEs, and RBs, that Heaps has? BYU could spread the field and utilize
the WRs and RBs more but that would require better pass protection and outlet
receivers who could catch. When the receiving core start running
consistent routes Heaps accuracy will improve. Heaps has a long way
to go. But it is not all Heaps.
Sorry Dick,Your title sounds very negative. I've not heard one fan
near me at the game criticize or scrutinize Heaps--only coaches and calls. Only
media types are pushing or suggesting scrutinizing young Jake. All fans have
been screaming for Jake to have the ball. Only the coaches--who are no longer
green should be "scrutinized". And Anae's years of hiding behind Beck and Hall
are over! Beck and Hall often audibled out of Anae's ridiculous play calling!
Please--get us a genious OC! ala "Edward's-esque"