Though by no means do I know the entire story, I would like to make a few
comments:1. The actions of four people, who were very likely not
even from the school should not hurt a school's reputation this badly. Please
don't makes such obvious generalizations. Even if they were from Skyline, they
were four out of how many? And anyway, they were on the visitors' side and (I
heard) do not match skyline students from the description given by Lo
himself.2. The egg thing is, if not a downright lie, quite
exaggerated, I believe. I have not heard about it from anywhere else.3. Security cameras only make everyone but maybe a few feel much less safe,
exchanging a lot of personal freedom and privacy for a little bit of security.
And they're expensive. It's debatable, I guess, but I personally don't feel that
it is worth it at all.4. No matter what you do, things like this
will happen...and they could happen anywhere. This doesn't mean that Skyline
shouldn't do something about this, but it does mean that they shouldn't be
blamed nearly as much.
Apparently Coach Dupaix needs to emphasize some of these rules to his players.
From personal experience, I can say the "don't trash talk" rule isn't being
observed by ALL of his players.Please note that I'm not saying the
majority of his players, much less all of them, misbehave.But everyone who
dons a school's uniform becomes a representative of that school. If they want
their school to be looked on in a good light, they need to behave in a manner
that will reflect well upon their school.This sort of incident could have
happened at any school. That it happened at Skyline makes the school look bad
even though the vast majority of Skyline supporters would never do such a
thing.I hope that the Cottonwood player makes a full and speedy recovery
and that we see no other incidents like this.
"Sad embarrassing situation but like I said before Skyline is taking way to much
heat for this, probably just because of the OLY incident earlier in the
season."Just how much is too much heat when a visiting player is
attacked at your school? Are you suggesting that there are extenuating
circumstances that would allow for a visitor, whether a spectator or player, to
be attacked?Regardless of what the player was doing, looking for the
locker room, looking for a bathroom or looking for a hotdog, or when it
happened, before, during or after halftime, this kind of incident cannot be
allowed or trivialized.Call it what it is. A black mark for HS
sports that occurred at Skyline. You want to exonerate yourself? Find the
perps and take steps to make sure it doesn't happen again. Not just at Skyline
but at all high schools.
EagleParent - sounds as if some these threads have struck a nerve. One point
you made has struck one within me. Maybe it's because I am jealous of their
success, but I am not particulary fond of Skyline. But you bring up a goal of a
GPA that is higher than the state's standards. Guess what, most programs have
similar "goals." Is it a standard used by Skyline or merely a goal?Not that I would ever cheer for either team, but I'm going to the Skyline
Cyprus game to cheer loud and proud for the Pirates (I have a feeling most of
Utah will be cheering for them too).
Dear Eagle Parent,You stand firm in your belief that Skyline is a
class act. You brought up your coach's excellent record both on the field and
off. This was the past. Maybe this is just an off year, but he and the
administration have lost control.In a previous post, you brought up
the loss to Oly. I'd like to remind you about a couple of points to that game.
Did you forget what happened at the end of the game? Did you forget their
starting tail back ripping off the Oly player's helmet? Did you forget about
Skyline, being led by an assistant coach, rushing Oly's sideline? Did you
forget about the thousands of dollars of vandalism to Oly's facilities? What
happened to the Eagle players caught for the vandalism? Slap on the wrist?
Does not sound much like class or integrity.I respect Skyline. I
always have. But the above coupled with the latest incident with Cottonwood has
given them a black eye that will take some time to remedy.
Anybody who wants to read a good piece of journalism about this whole incident
should go read the article that ran in the sports section of the Trib today. I
usually prefer the DN coverage of prep sports over the Trib but this article was
just ridiculous. Go read the article in the trib where the writer actually
reports the facts objectively and without an apparent bias.I don't know
where the writer (DN) got the idea that this happened at halftime! Everyone
needs to stop saying that Skyline isn't safe and needs better facilities for
visiting teams because I know exactly where opposing teams go at Skyline during
halftime and there ARE bathrooms there. Poor decision by any HS player to leave
the sidelines during a game I would never do that in my playing days. Sad
embarrassing situation but like I said before Skyline is taking way to much heat
for this, probably just because of the OLY incident earlier in the season.
I still stand by what i said.You do have an excellent point though.then why dont
they get someone better to run the option.i find it hard to believe that they
are so depleted on talent that is all they have.I would have made changes after
the oly game. im just curios what are the stat's for the games they won.It seems
to me with all the speed they have the spred could be more effective.And without
a strong back to plow up the middle maybe find someone to take it to the air
which i have not seen this year.Granted i have only been to the Homecoming game
which was a complete joke and i try to follow as much as i can through the
paper.I just want my eagle's to return to the glory days of winning and not the
butt of jokes as it seem like they are today.
Its funny that mbsky thinks Skyline should have scrapped the option 5 years ago
in favor of the trendy spread offense. In fact, Dupaix won his 8th state
championship at Skyline 5 years ago in 2005 with a team ranked 4th in their
region entering the playoffs. And last year, Skyline finished 2nd in offensive
production behind Bingham in all of 5A. Maybe you should rethink your theory.
With the right athletes (especially QB), execution, and QB reads, the option is
very difficult to stop. The downfall of the option is the turnover, which had a
lot to do with Skyline's 17-14 loss to Hurricane (3 fumbles, 2 INT), 31-24 loss
to Olympus (2 fumbles, 2 INT), and 24-17 loss to Cottonwood (fumble returned for
TD). Air Force seems to do just fine with the option as indicated by their
recent drubbing of BYU.
Skyline has had a great program for along time. But i think there is time for a
change and that time was 5 years ago.The option is out the spred should be in
.It seems like they are stuck in a time warp and cant get out.Let's try this out
how about putting the BEST 11 player's on the field. Just thinking outloud! As
for this cottonwood /skyline situation if it is true then it's pathetic if not
then lets just move forward.
What happened to Lo is unacceptable. As terrible as this incident is, there are
some baseless statements made about Skyline. For example, Kipp wrote "someone,
somewhere, needs to teach this program how to lose with class, because they
haven't figured it out". Kipp, you could not be more wrong. Head coach Roger
Dupaix is a class act whether his team is winning or losing. His coaching
intelligence is obvious by Skyline’s success, but his character and the
character he instills in his players stays with them for life. The hundreds of
young men who played for Dupaix at Skyline, like Cottonwood head coach Josh
Lyman, can attest to the model program he runs. He bans swearing, tells his
players to be on time to class, be good citizens, don't trash talk, and stay
away from alcohol and drugs. Although the state requires a 2.0 to be eligible
for athletics, Skyline has a team goal for a 3.2 GPA. So don’t rush to
judge the longstanding reputation of a first class program based on one isolated
I guess differing opinions don't get posted! Thanks for your efforts.
It is a bit strange that the player didn't even actually find a restroom...since
the area north of the field, where there is a gully(not school property), quite
obviously couldn't contain a restroom. Why not stay in designated areas and make
the job of protecting you easier by going to a bathroom a couple minutes later
At Skyline, they are saying the kid blew out his knee during the JV game the day
before, I wonder if this is true at all?
First off, I agree with everyone who says this is a poorly written article. #1 The incident did not happen at half time, but was before half time,
so he could not use the locker room bathroom. Unfortuneately, when you have to
go you have to go. #2 He was fully dressed in the CWOOD uniform.
Shoulder pads and all. #3 What needs to be addressed is, as stated
earlier from people, is the fact that Olympus was also vandalized and mistreated
when they were the opposing team there a month ago. Two incidents within a
month of each other at the same place, needs to be addressed by the
administration. Skyline kids may not be the ones doing this, but it is on
Skyline property and they are ultimately responsible for this poor behavior.
West Granger oooooooh scarry. Why did they care then that the boy played for
cwood if the perps were not affiliated with skyline? It seems unlikely that
someone would care who it was or where he played if it was random. This was
targeted and I doubt someone would miss their own hs football team play to
travel to the saftey of " we don't really have that here" stadium to beat up a
sophomore. Get real it is an issue. Hunter and granger played last week too. No
eggs, no fights, just fun.
(continuing)If he was in uniform, this is a VERY big deal.... and
the school should not be able to host another game until the opposing team has a
safe place to go during halftime. (Multiple meanings of "go" relevant -- both
"gather" and "relieve ones self" are applicable.) If not in uniform, while
still a horrible situation, no real action should be taken against the host
school other than maybe requiring that they up security a bit.... Some may ask, "WHY this distinction?" It really does have a simple answer.
While a host school has the fundamental ability (and duty) to control (and
therefore restrict) the interactions of players and fans with "authorized only"
areas, it does not have the ability to control all fan interactions. While,
yes, the victim may have been a member of the opposing team -- but unless he was
there in uniform, he was there as a fan.
At first I was questioning the facilities, because I played at a fairly small
school (graduating class of 62 students), and still never ran into a facility so
poor that a player would have to interact with fans to use the restroom at
halftime....That said, this ends up being one extremely poor piece
of journalism. While it gives an accounting of the attack, it does not give an
accounting of what this victim was wearing. While usually this is an irrelevant
detail, if you are going to report the fact that the victim was a football
player for the away school, it is a very important detail.
@Bulldog8: The article never said that it was anyone affiliated with Skyline
that did this, only that it happened on their property. Also, read the article
again - the writer never contradicted himself. The differences coming up about
when it happened are coming up from a quote. The writer did a good job of
reporting the quote accurately and as far as no quote from anyone at Skyline is
concerned, the article clearly states that Skyline declined to comment, meaning
they were given the opportunity to do so. The article was well researched and
well written and I applaud both the author and The Deseret News for keeping the
Chances are the people who did this weren't even from Skyline. The whole egging
thing is unfortunate, but lets be real Skyline isn't the only place that
happens. I feel bad for the kid and his family and I wish him a speedy
recovery, but I think Skyline is catching way to much flak for this one. This
could happen in any bathroom at any school.And to the guy who wouldn't
stop talking about how well written this article was I thought it was a terribly
written piece. Like I said earlier the writer contradicted himself about when
it happened, and I'm pretty sure there wasn't a single quote from anyone at
Skyline other than the administration releasing an apology
These rivalries are getting embarrassing. This goes for high school and college
football. Sure, a little back and forth banter is fun, but people in this state
have taken it way, WAY too far. I wish a very speedy recovery to
this young man, and that the violent young men who did this will be caught and
I'm a fan and have been attending Cottonwood games for 4 years now... I've only
seen 4 incidents... In a game in Davis County, there were eggs thrown... Last
years homecoming game at Cwood, Skyline students launched water balloons from an
apartment complex east of the field... one young lady was hit and knocked down
as she was performing.. she still has a scar... this last Friday, the above
incident and the visiting crowd being egged from the parking lot. Of any school
I'm concerned about attending games at with my daughter? Skyline... Very sad for
me as I'm an alum of Skyline...
Come on "Truth". Your story sounds a bit like a tall tail to me.
As a member of two families with a long football tradition at Skyline, as
someone who donates every year to the program, never misses a game and currently
has a son playing on the sophomore team I can say with all certainty I am
ashamed to consider myself an Eagle today. This act of cowardness
goes beyond the Football field and even the school walls. It's waves ripple
throughout the community itself. Today all Eagles must bare the burden of shame
thanks to the actions of Cowards! If any of the perpetrators have
any integrity you will turn yourselves in immediately and agree to pay your debt
the fullest extent of the law. You will then apologize to the victim, his
family, the school and the thousands of alumni to whom you have brought shame
upon with your brazen act of idiocy. My thoughts and prayers go
out to the victim and his family and I hope he will be back on the playing field
as soon as possible. I am deeply sorry and ashamed your family is suffering at
the hands of someone who is associated with Skyline. May you have
Godspeed and the best of luck!
Yes Big Daddy, Skyline was so much better in the olden days.....I was in
Skyline's Parking lot with 3 of my friends after a Night Football Game back in
the 70's....we were surrounded by 25-30 Skyline hoods that were all 20-25 yrs
old....they proceeded to pound the crap out of us and tore the side of the truck
bed completely off its frame.....one of the kids ended up with a plate in his
head....No press back then...its was standard behavior! In the 60 's the whole
group of SLC high schools banded together to go up to Ogden to get revenge for a
bunch of Ogden hoods who beat up some west high cheerleaders......ah yes the
good old days...when all Night games were suspended because of fighting in the
This is not the Skyline of old! The school has always been first class!
Hopefully this is an isolated issue!
I am a Skyline grad. I will never tell anyone I went to Skyline. What has
happened to the great school I went to many, many years ago. I am ashamed.
I say if they find who did this make an example of them by a more severe
punishment than a slap on the hand!
Not a Fair Alma Mater! I am ashamed that people from my former High School
would do such things to give it a bad name. Back in my day, other schools would
pick on people from Skyline at a game, but I guess kids act like hoods from all
schools now. Maybe it is time to stop putting money into sports and put it into
music, I don't think that the orchestra fans beat each other up.
How sad that stuff like this happens at a high school game. Players getting
assaulted and eggs being thrown at fans? Really? Why is there so much hate in
the world and why do fans have to act so immature? Its just a game.Best to luck to this young man in his recovery. This injury is probably just
as damaging psychologically as physically.
" we don't really have that here" obviously you do have "that". It's unfortunate
that this happened.
Why doesn't the paper offer some sort of description of the assialants from the
victim? Any sort of details would help. These four kids/men had to leave the
campus at some point. Maybe someone will recognize the description.
Tommy, Kipp: you guys hit this on the head. Accountability falls on the
shoulders of this school's administration. For years Skyline has come across as
the crown jewel of east side schools. Not anymore. Who feels safe at Skyline?
My heart goes out to this kid. Here he is representing his school
at a sanctioned event, and he gets assaulted, seriously injuring his knee.
Regardless if they catch the perps, accountability needs to be taken - it should
be taken by the Skyline administration, they failed - and this isn't the first
time this year.I hope this kid has a strong recovery, and I hope
there aren't any repercussions from this incident.
this is so sad, and then the kid from bingham holding kids at gunpoint, like
what goes through there heads, this is so sad for this player who is there
enjoying his life, and some people can make themselves hurt this innocent kid!
and the bingham stud who pulled a gun, do you honestly think 4 kids wont notice
a big Tongan like yourself pointing the gun at them? I am bingham fan, but the
kid should be kicked off team peck! Baseball team kicked off Anderson last year
just for drinking at a party! make the same choice as Coach Sato common peck!
ITS A FELONY!
I am aware of another assault later that weekend on a kid from Highland
invlolving Skyline kids.Not sure what is going on up there but the
administartion at Skyline might want to pull their heads out of the sand and
take some action to see that these things are avoided in the future.
This behavior effects everyone but especially all those who are tied to this
school. As an alumni of Skyline's second graduating class, this puts a black
eye on my school's reputation. I wish Falemaka a speedy and full recovery. One
day I hope he gets his pay back in a great game against my alma mater.
What has happened to Skyline? This is terrible! After this and what happened
against Oly - two incidents in one year? A couple of
questions...why not use the restroom in the locker room at halftime? Why wander
away from your team? I understand that the visitors' locker area is in the
small gym, but there are restrooms in there. This does not excuse those that
attacked this kid, but had he gone with his team, this never would have
happened. Also, on KUTV, it showed that the assault took place on
the visitors' side. It could have very well been someone not affiliated with
Skyline. Eggs were thrown on the Cottonwood patrons? Wow.Bottom line...Skyline's administration needs to take action immediately.
Taking a blind eye weeks ago to what happened with Oly and now coming out saying
how they feel terrible. Someone, somewhere needs to teach this program how to
lose with class, because they haven't figured it out. All of the good that has
been done for the past twenty-five years will be overshadowed by the
administration's lack of control.
DUBBLEDUB, I am on the Community Council at Cottonwood. We just last year
budgeted for a better camera system. It is very expensive and most schools have
either out of date security cameras or non at all.Off topic...the day
after we installed them, the girl's swim team had a bunch of stuff stolen. The
cameras caught the thieves red handed. Worth the investment that day alone.
I hope they can find out who hurt this boy. No one should be
Kids brag about stupid acts like this. Offer a $ reward and they will get
ratted out. I guarantee it. Then prosecute them to the full extent of the law.
No cameras? Even in today's world? They definitely didn't have them when I was
attending Olympus in the mid 80's but I thought they'd have them by now for
There were heightened tensions on and off the field at Skyline during the
Olympus game four weeks ago. It would be interesting to know if Skyline
administration acted accordingly at the time and immediately increased their
game security...unfortunately, based on this article, it doesn’t sound
like that happened. And being "devastated" doesn't really help the victim much.
The host school is responsible for making sure adequate security is in place,
whether the attack was by current Skyline students or adult without ties to the
school. Hopefully the Cottonwood player will have a speedy recovery.
you think they would have cameras covering every inch of the school. I don't
fell safe there now. That's scary and people shouldt be doing that because the
score of the game. Cottonwood looks unreal this year and should go deep into the
playoffs. Too bad they might be going there without a pretty key player. I hope
you can find those kids and punish them. I don't care if they go to skyline or
not. That makes them look really bad in my mind
Unbelievable and devastating to this family with a young man cut short in his
career because there are thugs looking for the thrill of assaulting a
defenseless athlete. This article was so well written and researched that I
alternated between rage and sorrow that no one witnessed the attack and could
assist Falemaka. Certainly it is a wake up call for any sporting event where
there are thousands of students and also roving gangs who could attack and
injure anyone in their way. My deep condolences to his family and hopefully we
fans can contribute to his medical expenses in some way. Great journalism by Mr.
Phibbs in this excellent description of high school sports gone wrong. Hope for
more reporting like this in the future.
That is a very sad situation. I hope all coaches give the kids a talk this week
before all games around the state. I hope someone gets made a example because of
This is absolutely atrocious and hurts both schools. Hopefully someone will
hear something and report it to the authorities to help catch these thugs. Four
men attacking a 16 year old kid, give me a break! And hopefully all of the
schools will beef up security at events, knowing that tensions and emotions can
run high. Here's one fan who's hoping that we can all learn from this and move
forward into a more positive athletic environment.