Two-QB trial over announcement Tuesday
This is a fine young man and I wish him the best in his recovery.
Well the merry-go-round is over. Heaps and Lark are the guys.Now to
pick a tight end and get these guys some reps. They all need them.
I am sorry for Nelson but at least now the quarterback controversy is dead. Too
bad he won't get to go to Logan and face those fans, I know Ben Olsen had fun
going back to Provo ;)
Well that simplifies things...sad, but it does simplify the debate.
You done good Riley! We'll miss you at the games! Here's to a quick
I can't help but Bronco has got to be relived. This quarterback situation was a
huge sliver in his buttochs. Whos with me?
Was this a strategic move? If Heaps decides on a mission next year, Riley
comes back as the starter!If Heaps decides to stay for four years,
Riley can jump ship again and will have two years to promise some other
University!Where will Riley go? SUU, ASU, NAU, Idaho, USU? If I am Riley, I am heading back to Logan, today...not tomorrow!
I just replayed the two series that Riley played in the FS game. I did not see
any special hit or anything else to suggest that he was injured in the game.
Wondering out loud if this has been a lingering injury from one of the previous
Interesting. So the doctors made the decision for Bronco? Get well
Riley. Heaps, watch out for those Nevada Defensive Ends. They are
Thanks Riley for all of your hard work and dedication to the BYU football
program.Good luck on a speedy recovery!
I'm curious about 13 players being injured in a game.Is that
typical, or do them Seminoles hit harder then the players in these parts?
Uh Oh. Unless the recievers improve dramatically, BYU is in trouble. Nevada and
USU are not patty cakes. Luckly, after those games the team will have some
breathing room.Riley, you were the only thing exciting about BYU
football this year.
RE: chase SLI agree. This makes it much easier on both Bronco and the
rest of the team. Best of luck to you Riley!
Somebody who knows Riley needs to direct him to this board so he can know that
BYU fans appreciate his effort and leadership.Thanks Riley. It'll be
exciting to get you back next season so the team can use your grit and
determination to help win some football games. I'm calling it now, Riley scores
a rushing touchdown at Texas, helping secure one of the biggest wins in BYU
history.Write it down. Remind me in a year :)
Too bad, he has worked hard. I wish him luck in his recovery and I hope he can
find ways to continue to help the team off the field.I hope Heaps
grows up fast. Big test coming up Saturday.
@TheSpikerI agree. My guess is the injury occurred in the Air Force
game. Nelson played his heart out and took a pounding in that game. He did not
even play much in the Florida State game. As tragic as this is for Nelson, I
think this is actually good for the entire team as it will end this QB
controversy once and for all. By the time Nelson returns next season Heaps will
be the established starter, with Lark the established backup. I think Nelson
will be moved to a different position when he returns. I really like the idea of
Nelson playing as a halfback where he can take direct snaps or run an HB option
where the ball is handed off to him and he rolls out and either passes or runs.
I don't think Nelson will transfer again.
Rily, your mature presence will sorely be missed...good luck, heal fast, stay
strong, we are still here when your able to come back!!!
I'm sorry for Riley, but this will be a good thing for Heaps and the team. This
will make it easier for any of the players who were hoping Riley would remain
the QB. Hopefully now the team will rally around the young Heaps and play up to
their potential. They need to get a TE that can help the team and develop into a
@The Spiker and RepresentLook at the video on KSL website and you
can see Riley running off the field and you can tell his right shoulder or arm
is hurt. I think he even played one series after that. He's a tough kid. He will
be missed but I think Heaps was the guy anyway.
After Nelson transfers again (he obviously wont get any more playing time for
BYU as a qb unless heaps does the right thing and goes on a mission), will he
speak about all that goes on behind closed curtains at that school? He might make some dough on a book deal, I wonder what the title would be?
I want Riley back!
Best wished to Riley in his recover, indeed. Top notch guy. Now the "Heaps Era"
offically has started. Stay healthy, my friend! Stay healthy!Re:
chase SL | 3:40 p.m. Sept. 21, 2010 "I can't help but Bronco has got to be
relived. This quarterback situation was a huge sliver in his buttochs."Bronco created the QB situation. He was sounding more and more like the second
coming of "Crowton Year 2"!!Let's go Cougs!!!!
This board is always too entertaining to turn away from. Similar to watching a
train wreck, you simply have to keep looking (reading).BYU fans are
such ludicrous hypocrites. Anyone who cares, recall all that the Cougar faithful
had to say about Riley before this, wishing this injury upon him? Well now they
have their wish it is all get well soon Barney Rubble. I don't
really care what Riley does as he was always an awkward fit at BYU, I mean
Brandon Doman only ran 1/3 as much as Riley, so how Riley would ever fit in?
Glad he was hurt in time to get out of Provo and while Kewgs will post otherwise
they are all happy he's out too. They won't come out and say it but the faith
loving Kewgs are stoked.Good recovery to the Y fans. Always a
benevolent and lovely group of Kewgs:)We love you Riley (for comedic
effect).I personally do wish him well but am just calling the bluff
of Cougars wishing him the same recovery.
Riley Come back to USU next year, Borel will have graduated and we have a good
up and coming team. I bet you will get the start and you can be a hometown
@NKAWTGYou may be right. I do recall Nelson getting sacked at least
once by the Seminoles so it wouldn't surprise me if he was injured then. It
would also not surprise me if it was a combination of the Air Force and FSU
games that led to the injury. Nelson had a higher risk of injury because of his
style of play, and the way he ran the ball like a running back. I don't think he
could have lasted the whole season as the starter if he continued to play that
way. I really like Nelson and hope he recovers and is granted a medical
red-shirt so he can come back and play two years in a new role. I think he would
be a potent weapon at HB.
Riley is my friend and his family are the greatest and classy bunch of people
you will ever have the privilege to know. Joni & Kieth you guy's are the
greatest and I know that Riley will be just fine, my heart aches for him and all
the effort he has put into getting himself and this team ready for the
season.Thanks for taking the time out of your busy summer with Bryan
Kirya, to take the time to go up to Primary's and visit our Davis Cox who is
battling cancer. You have a big heart and it includes much more then football.
Riley "A oi e tala" to thee oh son "Teia Teia Te Ala Nui O Talani La "Your
"POLY" Cougar Nation has your Back Btrutha !!!
They better get Lark up to speed, because with how atrocious the offensive line
played in the last two games, Heaps ain't going to last long. BYU needs to go
almost strictly to a short passing game and get the ball out fast to avoid more
hits on the quarterback.
I believe that it served this individual's best interests to have this injury.
Many years ago my shoulder was hurt in an endeavor--this person has
done nothing to help this team improve. He has only been a
bittersweet cacophony of various issues and seemed only to care for the things
that mattered to promote himself. It is unfortunate--the timing of
this is quite suspect, too. Perhaps he just got "injured" when the writing on
the wall was becoming clear, and now he's getting cold feet because he's paid
Riley is a great kid even if not a great fit at QB for BYU. I hope he recovers
quickly. As Lark and Munns step up and develop, Nelson will be completely out of
the QB picture when he recovers. He is a great leader and great
athlete. I could easily see him competing for a wide-open safety position next
season. He knows QBs, can run, is tough and is a vocal leader. He may be a great
fit back there.Okay Heaps - time to live up to your legend. No
question the consistent reps and focused coaching will only help him and his
receivers. I am predicting that by the USU game the passing game will be back on
track. Very worried about the Nevada game though.
Re: GGI guess the fake surgery is happening on a fake Friday the
fake day of the 24th of September, in a fake hospital with fake doctors and a
fake OR scrub team. However, you can rest assure that your Santa &
Easter Bunny are home alive and well buddy OK.Walk away just walk
away tall.People who need medication should not have access to a
computer."POLY" Cougar Nation
sad for Reily and his family
Get well soon Riley.
Wookie!--You should do some soul-searching. You might just find one.
Good luck to Riley, and we hope he recovers soon. On with the
passing game and Jake Heaps. Jake, take a cue from Max Hall. Find a receiver
like Max did in Austin Collie, and throw a thousand + balls in off-time practice
to that man and develop consistency, timing, and confidence. It paid off very
nice dividends for everyone! Look where both those guys are today.Go
Re: Big Hapa I thought the people on here were moderating the
comments, but it needed people like you to test them, so...By the
way, since you have all the answers, why don't you explain why all of a sudden a
guy just gets "injured" when he has a lousy week against Air Force and his
counterpart does a terrific job against Florida State? Give us your
expert explanation, if you care to explain it NICELY.
Gracious George:"Many years ago my shoulder was hurt in an
endeavor--this person has done nothing to help this team improve" What is this? It certainly isn't a sentence. There is absolutely nothing
which links these two ideas together. What were you even trying to say?
Normally I wouldn't comment on something like this, but your attempts at
maligning someone who was just injured really make it even more funny that you
cannot form a coherent sentence. You go on to say:"He has only been
a bittersweet cacophony of various issues and seemed only to care for the things
that mattered to promote himself."What?!?! Are you just trying to
use big words now? Care to back up those accusations with anything tangible?
And if "this person has done nothing to help this team improve" why would he be
a "bittersweet cacophony?" Wouldn't he just be a bitter cacophony? In fact, do
you know what cacophony means? Because using sweetness in any context with
cacophony (even "bittersweet")basically makes it an oxymoron. A cacophony is
unpleasant; that's what makes it a cacaphony!
With Riley out, I'm smelling a 6-6 season.
Right on!Now we can alternate snaps between heaps and Munns!Nevada
hasnt seen any of Munns Yet!
@GoUtah"With Riley out, I'm smelling a 6-6 season."More
Graceless George"why don't you explain why all of a sudden a
guy just gets 'injured'"If you have any proof whatsoever that Riley
didn't injure his shoulder in the Florida State game, either produce it or
apologize for your libelous accusations.Then grow up and start
acting like somebody who is actually old enough to know what the word
Riley - best wishes to you. You have class and are a leader among your peers
and fans - thank you for choosing the Y!And thanks for not putting
your foot in your mouth this weekend like two other BYU QBs (Heaps, Sark).
Injury comes to the rescue of stupidity. And that aint no knock on Riley. It's
a knock on ever coach that voted for duel quarterbacks
Skywalker, relax. There was no libel in GG's words. Just an interesting
question. What you inferred is your own issue. Are you seriously asking for an
apology?If anything he should apologize for saying Heaps had such a
great game against Florida St. Now THAT isn't true....
Wow! Saw the video of the injury and I'm puzzled over how he could have
injured. The clip I saw showed the play 3 times and in it Riley could be
clearly seen to end the play being pulled down to the turf in such a way that
Riley ended up on top of the tackler, not below him.Strange.Good luck getting healed, Riley.GO COUGARS!
Tough break and an end to a tough season for the kid. Good luck with your future
where ever you end up!!
With Riley BYU was looking at a 6-6 season. I'm more than happy to have a 6-6
season with our future leading the charge.
To: Gracious George ... here's my attempt at a kind response ... Riley just
had his season end with an injury, that unless you have evidence to the
contrary, happened in the FSU game. Whether it started against AFA or only FSU
is irrelevent. He's hurt. That should, optimum word 'should' illicit
compassion from readers in the spirit of good sportsmanship. You're comments
were neither compassionate or sportsmanship-like. You ought to be ashamed of
the person in the mirror.Best wishes Riley. I'm sorry for your
injury. I hope your future is bright and you're able to fulfill your desire to
help the team. You'll be missed.
All you peabrains that are implying or suggesting that this unfortunate turn of
events is some kind of manipulation that serves the purpose of BYU football
probably also believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Why does it matter how Riley
was injured? Maybe he tripped on the sidewalk strolling across campus! If you
can't see it on the video replay, does that mean the surgery is just some sort
of trumped up rouse? I swore off this blog once, and now I'm doing it again. I'm
out . . .
Nelson, good luck in your recovery. You will be missed. Heaps,
Lark, Munns, get your game on. There's no one to divert blame now, it's time to
produce.Find a guy to build chemistry with, preferably a TE, and get
this offense moving.
I admire the way you play the game. You deserve everyone's respect for your
Tough luck, but he is a gritty kid and will be back. Best of luck to him.
to The Spiker:Did you watch the game - they indicated at the time
that he was heading to the sideline with his right arm down to his side - they
mentioned it was not his throwing are. Pretty evident that it happened in the
FS game. Anything could have happened and not necessarily shown up on tape.
Live HardDude, classless to make light of an injury.
I'm disappointed that so many fans seem to think Riley's injury is bad luck for
him, but somehow good for BYU.Guys...Max Hall, Harvey
Unga, Dennis Pitta, Manase Tonga, Jan Jorgenson, R.J. Willing, Andrew George,
etc. all left...Just THINK of the talent in that group! And because they were so amazing, this year's team didn't get the time on the
field and the seasoning they might have otherwise had when the time came for
them to be starters. Of *COURSE* BYU is going to struggle more this
year!And having just one quarterback isn't some magic fairy dust
that magically manufactures a "leadership" that somehow fills the gaping hole
left by those extraordinary talents. Besides, we all know that the
critics of the 2 quarterback system would likewise be critical of whichever
quarterback Bronco did choose if BYU were losing as they are now. BYU is rebuilding. Like it or not, it's reality. Riley's a class
act and I'm glad he chose the Y, and I'm hoping he'll be back to full health
leading (or co-leading) the team again next year. Get well soon.
Ok, I'm a BYU grad, but the common accusations are true. BYU fans are weak,
fickle and whiny. How can you pray for a freshman to start as quarterback?Only the willfully blind would give up on a player like Nelson, and
secretly revel in his injury. Lame. In case you don't watch games, or pay
attention to stats, or appreciate experience, Riley Nelson outplayed Jake Heaps,
scored more points, and had the team's respect.BYU fans who place
all their faith in Heaps show a general insecurity and small mindedness about
the program. No serious program wishes to have a starting freshman quarterback.
Top recruits, while valuable, are not seen as saviors in serious programs.Remember Ben Olsen? or have you forgot him along with other high school
heroes? Heaps is in trouble. He has no true power running back, poorly
performing receivers, and a porous defense. BYU risks losing to Nevada, USU,
SDSU, TCU and Utah. A 5-7 record. WIth Nelson adding dimension to the offense,
they compete with Nevada, beat USU, SDSU and compete with Utah. Now Heaps
'learns' a lot getting sacked while waiting for his receivers to get open.
There is nothing good about losing Riley Nelson. He had experience and he could
move the ball against certain teams and in certain situations. I
hope he does get his medical redshirt. I think he will be back at QB in the
future but in a specialty role. He will provide a diverse look when BYU's
offense is seasoned enough to handle more than the basic playbook. NO True BYU fan wants anybody injured on the BYU team. The trolls,
USU or Utah or whatever brand are demeaning the the teams the pretend to
support. Losing Nelson does not make Bronco's life easier. It makes
it much harder. What if Heaps get hurt (even for a couple of games)?
Further, Heaps has the whole weight of the team now.Does anyone
know the situation with the other injured players? Nelson did get
hurt in the AF game and kept playing. He came out with his non throwing arm limp
but came back out later and played. Who knows what happened in the FSU game.Nelson did the best he could with the gifts he had and that is all you
can ask. He will be missed.
I bet anyone on this comment board that Riley wouldn't have elected to get
surgery if he were the started. I'm sure he's really injured, but I bet $5 that
he would have played through it if he were the starter.
I think you can thank Nelson for the one win over UW. Without him BYU would have
lost that one also. I also think he could have won some more games
this year if he were not injured. He was the best choice for some games and
situation. To pretend that an end to the QB controversy is going to
solve much is pretty naive. Heaps has a lot of potential and a lot of learning
to do. Lets hope BYU does not end up like U HOU which lost both it's
Heisman QB and back up and is now starting 2 freshman. Well BYU is
more or less starting 2 freshman.
Well thats unfortunate, get healthy soon Riley. With that said, its time to see
what Heaps can do. It will be nice to have one clear starter and Heaps getting
majority of the reps. This will help the receivers and qb build chemistry and
get on the same page. Time to get the ball to the playmakers, Di Luigi and
Jacobson. Hopefully one the TEs will emerge, that is really missing from the
offense this year. Last year the TEs were big on third down conversions.
First, rather than speculating on when or whether a hit occurred that
caused/worsened Nelson's injury, why not just believe what your coach had to say
about it? Shouldn't you give Bronco the benefit of the doubt, or has his failed
two-quarterback strategy somehow prompted you to question his integrity?"Mendenhall said Nelson hurt his non-throwing shoulder during fall camp,
but that injury wasn't discussed publicly. Early in the Florida State game, the
injury worsened after Nelson absorbed a hard hit."It sounds like
some of you are analyzing footage of the FSU like its the Zapruder film. For
those of you who don't know what that is, look it up.Second, don't
many of you feel hypocritical in praising Nelson now and giving him well-wishes,
after attacking him for the last few weeks? You showed your colors, a quick
"good luck, Riley" won't change them.Finally, you BYU fans enjoyed
decades of dominance in the WAC. You now feel entitled to it. But parity in
the MWC, and runs of difficulty (the Crowton era, and the recent quarterback
issues) have exposed warts on your dermabrasioned complexions.
Where are all the BYU fans who were calling for Riley's head last week and
saying he was horrible?@ Northern. No. Keep him out of Logan. That
ship has sailed. Not sure if I want the Alma Mater to be Riley's silver medal
How unfortunate that Riley injured his shoulder, I sincerely hope he gets better
soon. How fortunate for Bronco that now he does not have to make the decision.
Interesting that now that Jake is going to be the quarterback, expectations are
only for a 6-6 or 5-7 season.
I'm betting there is more to this story than we are being told. This whole saga
is one that is shameful on the part of the football program.6-6 if
all goes well.
Wanna bet? | 9:57 p.m. Sept. 21, 2010 North Las Vegas, NV "I bet
anyone on this comment board that Riley wouldn't have elected to get surgery if
he were the started. I'm sure he's really injured, but I bet $5 that he would
have played through it if he were the starter."===How would we
know who won? What is the criteria? How will the payoff be made? It's an anon
So, Nelson's injury occurred in fall camp? That means St. Jake couldn't beat out
an banged-up transfer with a bad non-throwing arm and a not-very-good throwing
arm. Yet here he is spouting the Quest for Perfection mantra: "If we're
executing on every play, we can put 50 points on the board every game."I'm sure that quote is on a wall in Reno. St. Jake's writing checks his team
may not be able to cash.
I wish Riley the best; he has a bright future in football and life. Recent
national magazine said a byu degree is worth $800,000. He has that and
another year of football. People on talk radio still criticize Bronco's
"quest for perfection" quote of 2008 and yet they have no clue that it is about
life and not just football. Look where people like Max Hall are today because
people helped them see new horizons. The hate that is out there in media
reminds me of how cynical much of the media is. Unlike the mission of the
D-news, many out there make money off of negativity and darkness.
What about the defense? Nelson is a class act and will be missed. The big
concern is how bad is the defense- The front 7 is the worst in america. They
will do fine with the lower end mwc, but the real teams they have no speed. Need
If I had more time I would search out and compare all the people who posted
hoping Nelson would get hurt and see if they are the same people wishing him
well. Keep it classy coogur fans.
Riley was an intense player and this all out stinks for the cougs. Weather he
was going to start or not, he added a unique dimension to this young offense.
Sad to see such a hard worker go down and if anyone tries to down play this,
they need to take a cold, hard look at themselves in the mirror. We will now get
to see if all of the hype is true about Jake Heaps. If he can somehow motivate
this youthfull and very stingy but dormant offense to errupt we might be able
to salvage this season. We have all the talent, the O line is one of the biggest
we've had and they are athletic, but are struggling with the 2 QB system. I look
to them to step up and give heaps the time he needs. The running backs are
better than people let on, Di luigi is a complete stud out of the back field.
With one QB i hope the recievers can and will step up and do what they do best,
reak havoc on the defense. Our defense has potential, we just need players to
lead and motivate them. Good luck Saturday!
JohnInSLC,I can’t agree with you more. If Reily had a
“supposed” shoulder injury so bad - waaaay back in August —
that it requires season ending surgery, don’t you think one of the other
“all world” QB’s would have been groomed for this season?Put it this way, When Cain and Wynn were battling for the starting spot
last year, do you really think Kwhitt would have started Cain if he had a
destroyed shoulder?The truth about the remaining
“stable” of BYU QB’s is becoming very clear. They’re
not good enough to play at D -1 level.Truth is sometimes painful
two things stand out here.1- Heaps refers to himself at least 5 times in
the first sentence of the quote, and makes sure to point out how the team is
"rallying" around him. Heaps needs to figure out it's a team game and NOT about
Mr. Jake Heaps.2- BYU is out if it's league playing teams like Florida
State. The Cougars just can't compete physically with these faster, stronger
teams and need to make sure and be careful who they schedule. 13 injuries tells
me they weren't physically capable of competing.
I think it's ridiculous and pathetic that the BYU haters will use ANY excuse to
malign BYU -- even a guy getting injured. @Hedgehog: Dude, you're
in Michigan and are STILL obsessing on us?! REALLY?!
Obviously, some of you don't read well. I think the story alludes to the fact
that Riley was injured in pre-season practices which was compounded by his play
against Air Force and FSU. Kindness and empathy should be the watchword of our
discourse unless we are intent on acting like immature children who had a hard
time getting out of the 3rd grade. Let's look to the future and hope for the
best rather than beat a dead horse and put everybody else down.
cristoph: "People on talk radio still criticize Bronco's "quest for
perfection" quote of 2008 and yet they have no clue that it is about life and
not just football."Clue #1: He's the FOOTBALL coach.I
have a bridge in NYC for sale. Interested?
HedgehogNot sure your conclusion is reasonable, but I certainly
agree it's an odd set of circumstances. I think the more reasonable conclusion
is that Doman, Anae and Mendenhall are simply not astute enough to connect the
dots.Coaching incompetence seems to be the constant here, the
inability to identify a starter and putting in a 2QB system being exhibit A.
Exhibit B is recruiting Nelson in the first place. He's perfect for running a
zone read offense, but never BYU's system. It's like demanding the mountain
come to Mohammed.Don't think it's over yet. Now these coaches are
going with a kid who's as soft as a marshmellow (Unlike Wynn, who by all
accounts made a big effort to put on weight and muscle his freshman year).
Since Heaps is not in shape and can't make his reads and get rid of the ball,
it's likely he'll be injured too, if he doesn't choke on his own hype first.
In my opinion, Bronco has a hard time making the difficult decisions. He's
probably giving a hugh sigh of relief now that he doesn't have to pick a
starter. Think about it, if BYU continues to lose, he has an out
because of his freshman quarterback.. (and, if Riley hadn't gotten injured, "who
knows how good BYU could have been?").Part of being the head coach
is also being accountable for your decisions, and it appears that Bronco doesn't
want to willingly shoulder that burden.
Amazing.......... Arrogant fans, and no, I'm not talking about BYU fans. When
has anyone "wished" that Nelson would get hurt? What reason would Bronco have to
lie? (I question whether anyone saying this is truly a BYU fan. If you are you
must be the guy that sets next to me who keeps yelling "put Luke Stahlei in"
Really!) I would have loved to see Nelson be successful. Heap's also. (any QB
for that matter)This team has a long ways to go and it probably won't happen
this year. Utah fans, look in the mirror.............
nehu, I agree that reading posts on this board is entertaining in a sick sort of
way, but because of posts like yours, not because of posts from (most) BYU fans.
Most BYU fans I know sincerely like Riley and do wish him a good recovery. I
assure you that the vast majority of BYU fans (such as myself) really do wish
With Riley Nelson's surgery we now have what we should have had from the
beginning.....one quarterback starting and playing until something else would
suggest another way to go. I am still maintaining this is a miserable
rebuilding year for the Cougars and that because of poor long-term planning the
team is in the position it is in a multiple player positions. It is incredible
how this state of affairs happened. It just puts the program in jeopardy at a
point in time when the decision was made to leave conference affiliation and
become an independent. This decision hurts all the other sports at the
university, no question. I do like the so-called minor sports to be in WCAC
where most of the universities have similar values. But football right now is
in a sorry state of not having sufficient experience all at once. This is
mismanagement in my opinion. The team is going to obsorb a lot of punishment
due to this lack of planning and failure to keep a steady stream of experienced
athletes on the roster. The Harvey Unga debacle is just the tip of the iceberg.
It is tough on the fans.
Yikes! I know a lot of people didn't like Nelson as a quarterback but I thought
he had a lot going for himself. He is going to be sorely missed by the Cougars
this season.I'm sure Jake will put it together eventually but this
is beginning to look like Gary Crowton in 2003 when Beck was just off a Mission
and was being pressed into action. He simply wasn't ready and it really hurt
his development. If Heaps gets hurt or simply isn't effective it doesn't look
like there is much left in the cupboard. I wish you good luck though guys.
Heaps will be a great quarterback one day.A Ute Fan
Utah fans need to grow up. Having to make up wild conspiracy
theories to have something to criticize shows just how insecure these
BYU-obsessed, Utah trolls really are.The sad truth is they come here
to whine, so if the facts don't fit their whines, they're forced to make up wild
conspiracies to make the facts fit their whines.It's entirely
possible that Riley suffered an injury in fall camp; that he played through the
pain and that the injury became worse because of the pounding he was taking to
the point that his shoulder finally required surgery to repair the damage.Anybody who watched the replays of the Florida State game could plainly
see that Riley was in severe pain coming off the field. How much damage his
shoulder suffered in the Florida State and how much was caused previously is
immaterial. The only thing that really matters is that a fine young
man and fierce competitor finally reached the point that he was in so much pain
that he had to make the difficult decision to have the surgery now and miss the
rest of the season.Good luck on your recovery Riley!
Good luck, Jake. Wishing you the best. And a speedy recovery to you, Riley.
Gonna miss your running ability. You've got some Steve Young-like moves, dude.
@PAC man. Actually the sad truth is Ute fans come on here to revel in the ease
in which they can rile up Cougar fans, and the rest of us come on here because
it is wildly amusing to read the comments, and then your reactions.On
another note, there are still some rose colored glasses available in the Provo
area, right next to the red Quest for Perfection t-shirts at the local Gentile
outlets in Orem.
hedgehog...The truth about the remaining “stable” of BYU
QB’s is becoming very clear. They’re not good enough to play at D -1
level...I remembered calling BYU the "AAA" quality of college
Jake, thanks for your committment to do your best. I assume that means learning
to move around in the pocket...especially learning to step up in the pocket.
Please no more statue like play where you're just standing "frozen like" at the
back of the pocket where defensive ends meet and slap you down or slap the ball
away with one hand.Has coach Doman discussed this with you yet? Did
you see the FSU film? Did they teach this at the scores of quarterback camps
you attended?Go get 'em tiger.
Well Heaps here's your chance to go 10-0. Best of luck son you're going to have
to mature very rapidly.
Way to go Bronco! If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.
plyxplyMost of the Utah fans who hang out here are really just
BYU haters and without BYU to hate, their sad little lives would have no
Hopefully Nelson is awarded a medical redshirt but I really don't think he will
jump back into the QB race. Love the kid, his athleticism and toughness. But he
simply is not equipped to run the BYU offense. And Lark will have developed into
a solid number 2 guy by the time Nelson is back. I think Nelson
would not have even been in the QB conversation this summer had Lark and Munns
not just been returning from missions. Given that Heaps will have a season of
experience and Lark and Munns will be fully back to form, Nelson seriously will
not be able to compete with those 3. Hopefully he finds a nitch however on this
team. I would think safety or slot suit his skills with safety the most glaring
i think riley may have had a bum shoulder to begin with, but because of the
opportunity to potentially be the starting qb and leader of the team he sucked
it up and played through the pain. credit to his toughness and work ethic. maybe
he was told last year that he needed to have surgery at some point but put on
the back burner until now.now that he is second fiddle to heaps and
unlikely to get significant playing time he decides to finally take care of what
should have been taken care of a long time ago. only now his injury has gotten
worse. pretty obvious to me. get surgery, get a medical release,
come back next year if heaps goes on a mission, transfer to another school to
play qb, or come back as a rb or safety.riley is no fool. he knows
what he is doing. i hope it works out for him. and selfishly i hope he stays at
How many Utah Fans are posting on articles about a 3-0 team? How
many ever do?It would be interesting to see how many televisions
were on the Utah v New Mexico game last Friday night.That's why LES
is full during seasons like this, and RES feels the need to give tickets to Jr.
Jazz teams to get 20,000 in the stadium.It will be interesting to
see how Larry Scott's experiment works out when they go for the TV contract and
actually crunch the numbers of how many TV's they are getting for bringing Utah
on board. I hope Utah does not agree to getting PAC money based upon what they
bring in through TV revenue, or they may wish for the "good old days" of the
"big bucks" and national exposure of the mtn.
"manutd | 1:51 p.m. It's in the article. Why do so many people
refuse to read the article?"Mendenhall said Nelson hurt his
non-throwing shoulder during fall camp, but that injury wasn't discussed
publicly. Early in the Florida State game, the injury worsened after Nelson
absorbed a hard hit."
ute-chute,How many screen names do you have? Seems like a lot of
Utah hate coming out of Beverly Hills...LOL
Ahh.. The NCC "no class crew" is out in force today. Jealousy, insecurity and
obsession. Some little brothers are able to look up to their role models. The
Utes can appreciate everything the Cougars have done for them in the past. Why
can't the NCC. The answer...Therapy. BYU will be fine. This rebuilding
year will still most likely see them in a bowl game and the young palyers will
gain valuable experience. I think they will come together this season and give
us plenty to look forward to. I wish Riley the best in his recovery and I look
forward to watching
A lot of "I"s and "Me"s in Heaps comments. If "I" were a cougar fan, "I"d be
Nelson is a solid player. I don't think he really had the chance to prove it
before this injury. But he will be back in a BYU uniform next year and possibly
contribute in a high capacity, even if Heaps stays as the starter next year.
Cain up at Utah is a good example of this. Good luck, Nelson!But
I'm wondering why there's been so much hate in the past few posts, particularly
from the "Californians." Just because the Y team and/or a Y player is criticized
on these boards doesn't mean it must be a Ute or Aggie "Troll". There are plenty
of haters on both sides.Besides, your posts make you sound...uh,
envious of other's success. Be happy for your own. But Ute-chute,
be happy to read all of my posts for the 3-0 Utes, at your leisure. You should
also be aware that many Ute fans do not read the DN, much less post on these
boards. So do not equate the # of posts on here to prestige, game attendance,
and conference revenue. That's a poor correlation my friend.
For all those who would coach without a salary, and hope that BYU comes 'a
callin', Anae has all the credentials in the world he needs to do a great job.
He has been doing a great job since he was a member of the championship team.
And, anyone from Kahuku High School gets my vote. He has done a superb job in
the past, and he will certainly provide the leadership needed in the future.
Playbooks are already written for the passing game of BYU. Now they can be
It's irrelevant who is the QB for BYU.BYU has already been irrelevant in
this year's college football.
The 40th ranked team (byu) in the USA seems to attract more attention than the
13th ranked Utes in the Salt Lake City market.
I can't believe Yner fans are buying this story. It is a total cover up. The
coaches are under the gun, and Riley Nelson is taking the fall. How is it that
for four days, nothing was said about an injury, then suddenly "oh he got
injured last Saturday." The kid is being let go, bottom line. The Yners will
think they are helping the kid out by getting him a redshirt, utilizing his
father as an orthpedic specialist. Riley will transfer, and Heaps the savior
will be expected to turn the sinking ship around. Riley your first clue should
have been when you were illegally recruited by the Yner coaching staff. You have
an NCAA rule named after you due to this type of cheating while you were on your
mission. You should have never answered the phone or emails or met with the
coaches. They did the same thing to Harvey, hung him out to dry, because he was
having relations, the kid is 30 years old, ha, he should be. This is a
crime......not buying this story at all.....
Too bad Rally is goneFake will not get it done1-3, the heat is on
byu 26Nice to see you on a byu article instead of the Utes articles
all the time. geez!I had one more post (thanks dnews), so thought I
would give it a go. I hope the cougs do go 9-1! Keep the hope alive
Jake. I'm sure all those wins in High School will come in handy as you prep for
Nevada and rest of your schedule.
Don't be so sure about BYU's irrelevance this year, Mid-Major Ute.Utah still has to play BYU in late November and a MWC championship, Top 25
ranking, BCS bowl or even a NC game bid could be hanging on the outcome of that
game.A BYU offense firing on all cylinders and lead by Jake Heaps
with 8 starts under his belt (that's as more starts than Jordan Wynn currently
has), and an improved BYU defense, could be a VERY scary opponent for a Utah
team trying to close out an undefeated season.
I'll bet Jordan Wynnie even goes out and buys a Jake Heaps jersey at the end of
So Bronco knew he was susceptible to injury and runs him into the FSU front
lines 60% of the time to make sure the shoulder was really messed up ? Shouldn't
the other coaches, like Doughman know when to pull a player because of injury
complications ?Sounds to me like Bronco left him in there knowing an
injury would make his decision,or lack of them , for him.I do not trust
Bronco, he let Manase Tonga play in a bowl game with poor grades last fall
semester, rendering him ineligible for post season play. Bronco and staff did
not chastise Max for his BYU honor code violation, to do so would make Max sit
for the bowl game.I just don't think that Bronco and Holmoe have their
coaches prepared to coach. This QB mess can find a home in the coach
ineptness.It never should have gotten this far. I want to put something
to bed once and for all. Most who post here are Utah Fans. We are Ute fans NOT
BYU HATERS ! My wife attended BYU and she is dismayed and discouraged by the
recent developments. Her loyalty to the Y is fading fast.
@TheHailStorm"Sounds to me like Bronco left him in there knowing an
injury would make his decision,or lack of them , for him.I do not trust
Bronco."Hmmm ... How could anyone think you are a hater-- being a
Ute fan and all who is inexplicably obsessed with painting BYU and its football
program in the worst possible light? How odd indeed!
First of all Anae calls the plays not Bronco. Bronco is really only coaching the
special teams right now. He lets his coordinators do their jobs so stop blaming
the play calling on him. He did not plan for Nelson to get hurt. And
BlueCoug you are assuming that Utah is not going to get better by the end of the
year. I am sure BYU will improve over the course of the season but I am pretty
sure Utah will as well. Both programs have very good coaches. It will be an
exciting game but this year I just think with a true freshman and on the road
gives Utah the advantage. I hope the best for both schools but I think BYU
finishes with 6 losses. The offense is not ready for a shoot out with Nevada and
Utah State is playing really well this year. I think an upset is coming in
Logan. And of course TCU and Utah. But I do expect Heaps to grow and be a lot
better by seasons end but I just don't see them being to the level you see. We
will see who is right.