Re: 17th Amendment At first, it seemed weird to me to, the idea of state
legislatures electing the senators. That was the way it was originally done. The
17th amendment changed that to make senators directly elected by the people.However well-intentioned that amendment was, has it really accomplished a
truer representation of the peoples' interest?The argument is that
Senators now represent the federal government to the people of their state,
instead of representing their state to the federal government. When elected by
legislators, senators represented states' interests. They were directly
answerable to the legislators. It's an interesting idea, and one that I am
honestly still thinking about.
To "MenaceToSociety | 2:46 p.m." Up until April 8, 1913 the founding fathers of
this nation thought it was a good idea for Senators to be picked by the states.
The idea was for the Represenatives to represent the will of the people, and the
Senate to represent the interests of the state.What the 17th
ammendment set up was a double representative government of the people.What is wrong with removing an ammendment that was a mistake in the first
place? They did it with Prohibition, why not with this one too?
Mike Lee has stated he wants to take away American citizen's Constitutional
right to vote for our US Senators and give this right to the state
legislators.Does anyone support that? How is that a good idea,
Republican or Democrat?Here we have our brave men and women in the
middle east defending our country and trying to bring democracy to Afghanistan
and Iraq. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we have Mike Lee saying he wants to get
rid of a portion of our direct representative democracy here in America.Extremist. Un-American. Anti-democracy.
Here is what I find funny about the comments here. Most of those complaining
about Lee's connections to business would also be the same complaining if he had
been in government all his life. The only way that he could have no connections
to business or government would be if he was independantly wealthy. If that was
the case, the complaint would be that he has never had a job.What it
comes down to is this. Stop your whining about the trivial. You should be
asking yourself if you agree with Lee's positions or not.
RE: Mike Lee and Energy SolutionsI find all these claims of the
"Heavy Ties" between Lee and Energy Solutions interesting. Do these people have
no clue of the actual facts in the case?Mike Lee has never been
employed by Energy Solutions. He has never been their general council. His law
firm (Howrey I believe), of which he is an employee, was hired to represent them
in ONE case. Mike Lee was the attorney appointed to that case from his
employer, the law firm. That one case was about who has the rights to regulate
international trade, the State or the Federal Government. End of
"The consequences of my running as an independent, in terms of dividing the
party, dividing the state, adding to the bitterness of the current political
dialogue, were such that I decided I don't need to hold office that badly,"
Bennett said.Say what you will about Bennett (and I'm one of the
State Delegates who worked to oust him), at least he has the common sense -
unlike Lisa Murkowski of Alaska - to know when something like a write-in
campaign will only do more damage. I applaud him for his committment to not run
a write-in or independent campaign.Christine | 9:06 a.m. is correct;
Lee will win regardless. This is Utah, not Vermont or Connecticut; a Third Party
candidate cannot at present get elected in this State to a federal post. We
Utahns are a stubborn lot; over 100 years of voting demographics won't be swept
away by a mere 1 1/2 years of anti-incumbent fervor, as badly needed and as
welcome as it has been. Perhaps in the future, but not this time around. Lee
won't win with my vote, but he'll still win. Unfortunately. Oust Hatch 2012.
Mike Lee doesn't believe we the people should elect our senators. He's exactly
the person we don't need in Washington, D.C.
The reason he is leading is because people don't think- they react emotionally.
Too many people these days let talk radio (right and left wing) convince them of
their version of truth by using emotion. Lee has no real plans of how to fix our
country, he just uses sound bites that people react to. Even Bennett pointed out
that Lee talking about the constitution doesn't mean he understands anything
about being a senator. Dallin H. Oaks just said Friday, that many people
who claim things are unconstitutional are wrong. Lee is one of those people
claiming everything the Federal Gov. is doing is unconstitutional. He will not
be the best Utah can send to D.C.Granato at least admits he will go to
D.C. to learn and try to help Utah not just his political party.
The heavy Energy Solutions ties really bug me, we need less corporate control of
government, not more.
Lee is a welcome fiscal conservative to the Senate. Hopefully, with his and
others help, we can start to LOWER the budget deficit that is so out of
control.The REALLY interesting race may be between Philpot and
Matheson for Congress.
Mike Lee is exactly the person we need in Washington, D.C. He is right on when
he says we MUST cut spending and that the federal government is too big and out
of control. And 68% of Americans agree with that, according to a Rasumussen Poll
last week. I'm glad to see in this story that more Utahns are catching on!Mike Lee understands how government is supposed to work. Mike Lee has
impressive and practical expertise defending the Constitution as a
Constitutional attorney. As a Republican state delegate, I have been
impressed with him from the start, and I have to say ditto to the comments from
oldpro about what Mike Lee is like as a person. And I will add that he's not
going to cave in to the pressure in Washington. Vote for Mike Lee!
Mike Lee is not an extremist. Democrats and liberal progressives are the
extremists. Most of the so-called "mainstream" media is either
liberal/progressive in their reporting or merely repeat ad naseum what liberals
say and only challenge or disparage what those say who oppose the elitist
establishment. The point is GOVERNMENT IS TOO LARGE AND HAS ENCROACHED UPON OUR
LIVES BIG TIME. We need a complete overhaul at all levels of government. They
are overtaxing us and overbonding us and OVERSPENDING.
Anyone who has doubts about Mike Lee simply needs to meet him, talk to him, ask
him questions. There is no way he could be considered "too extreme". His ideas
are sound, his reasoning is logical, and his approach to the problems we now
face as a nation are directly in lock step with the Founding Fathers. He knows
the law, understands how Washington works, and has an uncanny ability to make
friends wherever he goes. He is deeply honest, and what you see is what you get.
There is not a disingenuous bone in his body. I urge you to get to know Mike
Lee, and see him for what he is, a young energetic statesman.Count on him for
what he can do for us as a State and a Nation. Vote for Mike Lee and watch
things start to get better!
Most people who comment on how much they like Mike Lee haven't studied the
issues, nor do they know Granotos platform. They are simply too red, and too
blind to consider what our state and country really need. Do your homework
voters. There are more than two candidates. Know the issues.Heaven help
Mike Lee is who I will be voting for. Mike Lee wants to bring the discourse in
the Senate to the constitutionality of all bills, and won't vote on a bill he
hasn't read. Being a Constitutional attorney he understands the language and
tricks used to undermine our freedoms and rights in the text of bills and knows
how to overcome them. He wants to stop the insane spending in Washington and
require them to not spend beyond their revenues and at the same time reform the
tax code with either a flat tax or fair tax, so the Feds would be restrained and
have to live within a budget. He will be joining other Republican "Young Guns"
in congress to help restore the party to its conservative roots. Senator Jim
DeMint is building a coalition of constitutional conservatives in the Senate to
Repeal and Restore'. If we want to stop the Progressives and Obama's agenda we
need to send Mike Lee to the Senate come November 2010.
It sounds like it's time to start a grass-roots write-in campaign for Bob
Bennett. Even HE would be better than Lee (the Energy Solutions shill). Lee is
not mainstream, and he's owned by a company (Energy Solutions) whose purpose is
directly opposite from what Utah residents want. Lee is the LAST thing that
Utah or the United States needs.
I am glad to know that there are many people who can see what Mike Lee will do
for Utah states rights! As for being extreme - the Oxford distionary says
'extreme' is "not usual," "exceptional." The mainstream and the same old, usual
stuff is what got us in this mess! We NEED someone exceptional! I will vote for
Don't count Scott Bradley out yet...he is the constitutional balance between
both opponents running. Recent online polls showed him leading by 22 percent
over both mainstream party opponents and, while also a straw poll just like the
Dan Jones poll, this online poll was actually open to the people...we will see.
A Republican will win the senate in Utah no matter who the candidate is. Lee is
too extreme but will win anyway.
I'm glad to see that many others in the state are beginning to see what I saw at
the beginning of the year. Mike Lee is exactly who we need to help reign in the
out of control federal government. Mike Lee's views are in line with the
mainstream voters of the state, and even some liberal democrats are looking to
him to help get Washington D.C. under control.Mike Lee is exactly
who we need in washington D.C. to control federal spending, balance the budget,
return the balance of federal and state government powers, and help us create a
sane and sustainable energy policy.
I am just a bit curious but, would the second part of this poll be the Deseret
News' nefarious way of trying to coax Senator Bennett back into a race that he
really needs to stay out of?
The polls may be right but Lee won't be getting my vote. His extreme views won't
serve Utah or our nation.
""some commentators said he was too much of an extremist."":Commentators=
Journalists that are mostly left leaning. And this poll shows the left way of
thinking is once again, wrong."They perceive the federal government
as having overreached, as being excessively inefficient,"This is
like saying, We (citizen/taxpayers and voters) "Perceive" the sky to be Blue.