Hey Sniggy and Canadiany,The best thing about Jim is that he could
care less what you think about him.
I think some are misunderstanding of Hedgehog. He is actually sitting back,
having a beer and dip and relishing over how goog BYU football is. Good job
Headgehog. I knew you could do it. Now what are all your other Ute fans going to
A thumbs up for your comment Canadiandy, you are right on.
jpc53According to the article, "McMahon mooned a news helicopter,
blew his nose on a sports writer, agreed to coach in the Lingerie Bowl, endorsed
male enhancement products and got stopped on a DUI." And all that pales in
comparison to giving your word to live by a moral code, breaking that word, and
then instead of facing up to breaking his word and apologizing, he bad-mouthed
BYU?This guy's past arrogance and immaturity make McEnroe look like
Mother Theresa.My only hope is that he gets that, and it doesn't
look like he does.
Great article about an amazing quarterback.However, just for the
record this word nerd, Jim McMahon wasn't one to flaunt the BYU honor code. He
was one to flout the BYU honor code.
I am not sure which game it was but a reporter asked Lavell how he felt about
McMahon a Catholic winning the game for the Mormon School. Lavell said he
didn't win the game, a Mormon did by kicking the xtra point.Not a
quote just remember it that wayJim McMahon is awesome and so is
@CanadiandyJim has lived his life on his terms, Something we would
all like to do. Who are you to decide if his decisions have been good or bad? He
has a great marriage and wonderful family and isn't that what we all strive
for.As a former Chicagoan (and still rabid Bears fan) the only negative I
can say about him is that he was a terrible dancer and singer on the Bears
"Super Bowl Shuffle" video.Don't change a thing Jim!
Loved watching McMahon play, on and off the field. Just recently realized why:
as LDS, we're to find our own answers follow them without regard to the world's
opinions; Paul taught that without the Spirit, the things of God are foolishness
to the natural man; Jim McMahon, without having (yet?) the Spirit found his own
answers in response to what was foolishness to him. He actually exemplifies the
Mormon ideal, without the Spirit, of someone who acts instead of being acted
upon in their life, right down to the men-are-that-they-might-have-joy part..The closest parallel I have in mind while waiting for the Washington
kickoff is Ed "Big Daddy" Roth, creator of the Rat Fink and wildly customized
cars in the 1960s. He also set his own way but did read the BoM and received
the Spirit. He moved to Manti and told the LA Times that he sometimes received
ideas for new cars while in the temple there.
All those identifying his football success only remind me of an old 80's song,
"nice legs, shame about the face."Perhaps the phrase would go,"Great arm, shame about your life."I truly hope he has the
courage to see the bad decisions he's made and turn his life around. I suspect
he has it in him.
Jim and Steve were the best BYU saw on the field. Hands down. Who else could go
to the pros and compete? AND get a ring to boot?
Jim McMahon, good standing, be darned, Jim McMahon. It's all about winning. Jim
McMahon did send a message about BYU. :-) It's a shame he was a one trick pony
compared to Steve Young.
A little history lesson of the Jim Mac era:1978 - Randy Gomez leads
the Utes to an upset of BYU in the final minutes. Between 1972 and 1988 it was
Utah's only win over the Cougars. BYU (9-4) still wins the WAC championship over
Utah (8-3).Utah 23, BYU 22 1979 - Marc Wilson gets a
little payback for the Cougars and leads BYU to an undefeated regular season.
The most lopsided shutout in the last 50 years.BYU 27, Utah 01980 - Jim McMahon leads BYU to most lopsided win in the BYU-Utah
rivalry.BYU 56, Utah 6Jim McMahon then tops that, by
leading BYU to their first bowl win ever--the Miracle Bowl.1981 -
The first BYU-Utah game that would decide a conference championship. Jim McMahon
threw for 565 yards and 4 touchdowns in a record setting performance. BYU 56, Utah 28
Out of all the quarterbacks at BYU, I'd take him over anybody hands down. If you
had a two minute drive to score... nobody does it better. I hope he gets into
the BYU HOF.
Jim, we love you. We are taught unconditional love at BYU, and that's what I
have for you.The funniest story I remember about Jim: Steve Young
was being interviewed on Jay Lenno, and he told a story about Jim when the team
was staying at a hotel, and the team was sitting there watching TV, and they saw
someone swinging from a bed sheet from the room above, NAKED, and it was Jim,
just messing around like the crazy man he is. Hilarious!
As I have gotten older I have come to appreciate his talent more, his 'antics'
less. If his 'flaunting' of the honor code had just affected him then fine, so
be it. The fact that he drew others into the 'antics' irk me.In
today's BYU program, no way he makes it past a season. The standard for behavior
is higher. But yet he has such talent. That must have been a tough thing to
balance back in the day, the on field pluses and the off field minuses.Time to forgive and forget, I guess. Hope he gets the 10 hours, gets put in
the HOF and all is well for him and his family, especially his father.
Jim, don't ever let a few pinheads cloud the debth of love BYU's fans had/have
for you. You are our prodigal son, thanks for coming home to day. You're Always welcome.You put us on the map. The best BYU QB ever,
period.WE were pushing you hard for the Heisman, and long before
"That Guy" from Michigan posed for the Heisman in the endzone, it was you Jim,
that first posed in the "Period Heisman Uniform".And before Doug
Flutie's, over-rated Hail Mary at Miami, it was BYU's Catholic Connection,
McMahon to Brown...Hail Mary pass and comeback, that to this day dwarfs Fluties
drama.You are the Originals, Original. Iconic, super-bowl shuffle
man.Get your 10 hours Jim, you can take 2 or 3 classes on line, and
CougarTown will celebrate your induction into the BYU Hall of Fame.And never forget, that it was BYU's guys who pushed you for the "College Hall
of Fame".side note....The College Hall of Fame now also
requires a degree from your school prior to induction, Jim was exempt by only 1
or 2 years.Welcome Back Jim
Sounds like he needs to finish his degree through the Bachelors of General
Studies program offered at BYU and get into the school's hall of fame.
I saw Jim point to the scoreboard on a number of occasions. It was simply his
answer to taunts from opposing players and from the crowd. I thought it was
perfectly appropriate way of saying he did his talking on the field and was
willing to let the results speak for themselves.Jim understood
competition and respected his opponents. I remember once when he was hit out of
bounds after running for a touchdown, Jim was asked if he thought the opposing
player had taken a cheap shot at him. Jim answered, "no he was just playing
good aggressive football." Jim may have been unconventional,
outspoken, and rebellious, but he was not one to taunt or take a cheap shot at
his opponents. At the end of the day I felt he understood and practiced
sportsmanship better than many of those who are always reminding us of how their
high their standards are.
Welcome Back Mac...You'll always be BYU's Most favorite Saturday's Warrior in
most of our eyes. Now just get the 10 credits and get it over with...and while
you are at it get ole Craig James to forgive you for ripping his heart out 30
years ago. Maybe he'll quit ignoring/ragging on BYU football on ESPN. The
guy's such a whiner...It's time he got over the 80 Holiday Bowl.
Excited for the season and for tonight's grouping of all the great QBs. BYU
FOOTBALL RULES !!
We need a statue of Jimmy Mac on Campus next to Brigham Young.
Oh man I love and miss the mighty Jim McMahon! Always have, always will. (and
I'm a Ute!)
btl It is interesting you bring up Max Hall. Of all the Y quarterbacks,
Max Hall is most like Jim McMahon--moxy, drive, fight, spite, in your face. Did
you see him play the other night?--his game with the Cardinals was on after the
ute game. He just might make it in the NFL afterall, and then perhaps he'll be
remembered better for his college career.What made the Holiday Bowl
even more spectacular, is I think it was the Cougs first bowl win. Is that
Every major university that has a winning tradition has an enigma. These people
have left an indelible mark on their program, their university, and their sport.
We love to love them when the miraculous happens and we love to hate them when
their behavior is unexplainable and bizarre. This is the story of Jim McMahon.
He is the unique player in BYU history. While both parties may have a strained
relationship at times both share a connection that is not easily understood.
This weekend Provo witnessed if even for a brief moment the return of the
official Mad Man. When I watch the Miracle Bowl 30 years later, it is still
amazing. There has been no other miracle like it in BYU football history, all
courtesy of Provo's unofficial rebel, the intractable, Jim McMahon.
@hedgehogClueless, as usual. Are you sure you are not Nancy Pelosi's
Ute fan here, but this guy was a kick in the pants. I ALWAYS loved watching him
play and he really was one of the best college qb's I've ever seen. Plus--he
wasn't a hater (Max Hall)--and his love of the game and his fire made big games
bigger. Welcome back, Jim. I hope you get those 10 credit hours taken care of,
because not having Jim McMahon in the BYU HOF seems sort of insane.
I hope as BYU alumni we can remember all the good in others and brush away and
toss over our backs anything that might of been negative. I mostly remember Jim
McMahon for his heroics on the field. He was a great player and just happened
to have some faults, just like all the rest of us. One refreshing thing about
Jim McMahon is the fight in him. He never gave up as evidenced in the "Miracle
Bowl". For that I will ever remember him with fondness and with great hope for
him and his family. Never give up, Jim. We love you!
No, no hedgehog, it's the Utes who dip and throw beer...Ahh yes, Ute football!
Besides his competative spirit, McMahon had such a sense for the game. He would
often wheel behind a diving blindside linebacker. It was like he had eyes in the
back of his head. He regularly threw passes before the receiver made his cut,
knowing exactly where they would be. McMahon was a delight to watch, including
Easily the best competitor and arguably the best QB to ever play at BYU. My top 13:1) Jim McMahon2) Ty Detmer3) Steve Young4) Robbie Bosco5) Steve Sarkisian6) Marc Wilson7) John
Beck8) Max Hall9) Brandon Doman10) Gifford Nielsen11)
John Walsh12) Gary Sheidi13) Virgil Carter
A big fat dip and a can of beer.Ahh Yes, BYU football!
Jim McMahon was the kind of guy I'd like to go to war with: tough, no-nonsense,
in-your-face, I don't care HOW MUCH WE'RE DOWN BY WE D-O N-O-T QUIT kind of
guy.If I live to be a thousand I will never, repeat NEVER forget
McMahon to Clay Brown in the Miracle Bowl and running outside in the black,
quiet of night and screaming my guts out in sheer, joyous wonder. A sensation
of such overwhelming joy you don't even think about neighbors or what time of
night it was because you just don't care.Jim, we know you often had
a rough time at Cougartown, but we'll always, always love you.Good
luck getting your degree!
loved him! didn't like the way he lived but dang he was good.
Welcome back Jim.
"As the morning moved on and tee times approached, McMahon took his leave,
having been neither defensive nor outrageous, just a little edgier than the
others. He rose to the occasion by declining to rate the BYU quarterbacks, but
offering an unsolicited evaluation of former assistant coach Wally English."That guy was terrible," he said."--------Insightful, too!
Jimmy Mac. My all-time favorite QB, college or pro.I heard Kyle
Whittingham answer the question, "Who is the best quarterback you've ever seen,"
with "Jim McMahon" before the last word of the question was spoken.
Thanks for the memories Jim. The 1980 Holiday Bowl was my first bowl game ever.
BYU has had many great quarterbacks, but you've always been my favorite.