Lets see, how many Pac 10 top 25 teams do we have this week. Ummm, that would
be three (7,16.25), and one of them is ineligible. The MountainWest has three
(3,4,20). If this were next year, and we pull USC for obvious reasons, the
Pac10 would be 7,20 and 25. Hardly a power conference. Utes shouldn't be
thumping their chest too hard here.The negative side of me sees both
BYUs and Utahs moves as being cowardly. The conference they built together was
passing them by. They went from fighting each other for 1 and 2 in the
conference to being the third and fourth at best in conference. MWC wasn't
about them anymore.To all you who laugh at Central Florida, you
really have no clue what you are talking about. I don't think CF is better than
TCU or BS, but they would kill the majority of the MWC teams. They have amazing
speed. They would be a mid top tier team in the MWC, probably 5th, capable of
beating even, yes, Utah on a given day.Good luck BYU, I still think
it was a dumb idea.
TO THE UTE FANS WHO THINK THEY ARE GETTING HOME AT HOME SCHEDULING WITH USC,
ETC.It's going to be the PAC 12 with two divisions. You will
probably NOT be playing USC each year. It all depends on how the conference
alignment goes. You'll probably be playing Wash. State every year.
. . good luck.
It's early people...for heaven sakes...Most teams already have their schedules
for 2011 set in concrete. What do you expect for a team that just unlocked a
week ago the MWC ball and chain that has held them back for the last 10
years....Plus along with later games with FSU it opens a little wider the small
crack in recruiting in that area of the country...Where BYU has had little
opportunity before. You 've gotta get a schedule set and set soon...So quit
your belly aching for crying out loud. The contract with ESPN alone, along with
their promised support to help in scheduling other big name teams is a key
factor that you are not even considering in your immediate first look. Grow up
Cougar fans...and uties...unless and until you outdo Arizona and Arizona States
dismal transformation to the PAC I wouldn't be so vocal either. Both Teams
made smart moves and at a time when it was critical so lets all throw our
support behind both Utah and BYU and hopefully keep the rivalry going for the
only game that to many of us really matters.
That's the trouble, both are just mid majors.
Re: SLCWatch | 7:35 p.m. Sept. 5, 2010 "Choices, choices."**********I'd say play mid major directional U. In fact, load up
with home and homes with those mid major directional schools. Clearly a its a better fit for mid major independent U.
Okay, while the complaints about strength of schedule rage because Washington
pulled out of a contract to play a cupcake BYU and the Cougars picked up a game
with Central Florida lets do a comparison between possible games. Play in
Orlando and face a team with recent success in football, in a 45,000 seat
stadium, where a very large number of BYU fans are, where the fans have been
called rowdy, vulgar and they throw beer on you, and you can go to multiple
theme parks the days before the game or you can go to Salt Lake, play with a
team that has recent football success, has a 45,000 seat stadium, there are a
large number of BYU fans, where the fans have been called rowdy, vulgar and
throw beer on you and you can go to Pioneer Park, Jordan Park and Rosepark the
days before the game. Choices, choices.
Howard S. | 2:37 p.m. Sept. 4, 2010Hey, everyone needs their
cupcakes.BYU gets Directional Florida U, and Texas and ND get
Re: Kyle loves BYU/Jazz | 1:48 p.m. Sept. 4, 2010 "Apparently
they are really upset about Notre Dame and Texas playing BYU."********************Hey, everyone needs their cupcakes.BYU gets Directional Florida U, and Texas and ND get BYU.It's like
the circle of life in college football...
@Helloo,"Strength of schedule means nothing." Are you
serious? BSU is where they're at due to how they ended last year and who
they're bringing back. duh? The same with TCU. The tds' weak
schedule will NOT get them ranked and each week they play a weak opponent,
they'll not climb in the polls. It's clear that "post-season" play
is NOT the priority for the tds. It hasn't been for years and can't be in the
near future given their independence and up-coming schedule(s). The
big question is how the tds fans will react to their home schedule including San
Jose St., New Mexico St., LA Tech and Hawaii (among other far weaker opponents).
Re:hedgehog | 1:24 p.m. Sept. 4, 2010 "Now about actually
playing like them......"*************************Hedgeie - Perhaps I did overstate the point.BYU has a long way to go
(two BCS bowl games) to be like Boise.But hey... if their "Quest for
Cupcakes" is successful they might have a shot at an undefeated season and a BCS
BYU 26 Utah 23 | 12:07 a.m. Sept. 4, 2010 "It'll be hillarious to
watch all of the cream puffs Utah will be scheduling to balance out having to
play those amazingly tough PAC 12 opponents Washington State and Colorado."Do you know what will be even more fun to watch? BYU begging the Utes
to play them. BYU is about to learn they DESPERATELY NEED the UofU ESPECIALLY
as Utah now carries the PAC 12 brand. My thoughts go something like
this...Dear Dr. Hill,Please do not give a slot in
Utah's OOC schedule to BYU. BYU officials will claim that agreeing to a
multi-year home and home series with them will be in the Utes' best interest.
Do not trust them. Utah State University trusted BYU and now have no conference
in which to play. BYU's interest is in themselves only and they desperately
need a PAC 12 school to legitimize their independence.Please do not
afford BYU the opportunity to use the University of Utah as they used Utah State
University. BYU will debase themselves to the lowest levels it takes to
accomplish their own objectives.Signed,Ute Nation
Live Hard I'm a little confused by your comment at 5:07 PM. Did you think
Laramie is in Colorado??Central Florida is pretty good for a last
minute fill in for next year. Plus the Cougs get another chance to play in
Florida which as everyone else has pointed out is much better than pretty much
all of the MWC locations.I love the Ute fans going crazy. Apparently
they are really upset about Notre Dame and Texas playing BYU. What did you want
BYU to do? Add Alabama and Florida too? Be realistic people. They are trying to
find games for next year!
Howard S.Basically your right. BYU is the new Boise. Now about
actually playing like them......Who would have thought former junior
college would become what tds strives to be.
Absolutely a perfect schedule. As it is said, "just win baby", and you will be
looking at a BCS bowl BTW look at that great 2008 schedule that made the U
number 2 ranked in the country at the end of the year. Look at the schedule of
the number three ranked team in the country this year. Strength of schedule
means nothing. It is simply away for the $ conferences to jigger the ratings to
try to justify collusion, and for sports shows with hosts from outside the area
to sound like they know something.
Re: CG | 11:13 a.m. Sept. 4, 2010 "Wishful thinking,
hyperbole, and extreme jealousy on the part of another delusional Utah
troll."************************Yeah right... Utah's dream is
home and homes with "Directional Florida U" and replacing Boise in ESPN's
weeknight lineup.BYU has become the new Boise.Funny....
@Cougars - We Will Always Be YOUR Big Brothers. You really want to talk smack
about the Sagarin ranking of the Central Florida team? Well, the same rankings
show that the Golden Knights would be right behind Air Force in the MWC and
AHEAD of CSU(90) - WYO(100) - UNLV(100) - UNM(101) - SDSU(107). So, yeah,
playing Central Florida is a big upgrade over the bottom feeders in the MWC.
The same MWC teams that are whining about BYU leaving are the very teams that
are part of the reason why BYU is leaving. And Central Florida is still rated
higher than your in-conference rival, Washington State from the "Conference of
"ESPN is the boss, not a friend of BYU, and that boss will pull the plug in a
heartbeat if BYU stumbles."Wishful thinking, hyperbole, and extreme
jealousy on the part of another delusional Utah troll.The Utes would
love "to be owned by ESPN", because that would show that the Utes are a valuable
enough product for THE SPORTS LEADER to own.It's driving the Utah
trolls nuts that BYU is the only team in Utah that has that distinction.
Re: hedgehog | 9:39 a.m. Sept. 4, 2010 "They are owned by
ESPN."******************Amen hedgeie - I like the
spin that BYU has a friend in ESPN.With the departure of BSU ESPN
had weekday time slots to fill and BYU was willing to fill them.ESPN
is the boss, not a friend of BYU, and that boss will pull the plug in a
heartbeat if BYU stumbles.
The hysteria and temper tantrums being thrown by the hill trolls shows that
BYU's move to independence has really gotten under their skin.The
Utah trolls are in full panic mode now because they know that it's entirely
possible that BYU could indeed become the "Notre Dame of the West", while Utah
sinks into obscurity buried in the middle of the PAC.BYU doesn't
need to schedule a full slate of Top 25 "name" teams in order to fulfill their
goals of national exposure and recognition. A few wins over big name teams,
coupled with a great record, will have the Cougars highly ranked and make them a
serious player on the national stage.The biggest upside to
independence, however, has already been achieved. BYU fans
nationwide and worldwide will now be able to watch EVERY BYU football and
basketball game, as well as, most of BYU's other sports.
Make no mistake, tds is "Independent" in name only. They are owned by ESPN.
Only ESPN will decide if the tds will succeed or fail.When ESPN says jump
- tds says "how high".BYUtv is simply a gimick and will not move the
dial on exposure, money and most importantly - power.TDS better
schedule great and they better win or your new "master" will pull the plug.
Insights from a Navy Blog:Contrary to the irrational, emotional
responses you might be reading elsewhere on the internet, this is the right move
for BYU. This isn’t about BYU being "arrogant" or "delusional." It’s
all business.Let’s address some of the other talk floating
around about BYU’s move:BYU is just arrogant. Without the
Mountain West, they’ll become irrelevant.--This is not BYU
being arrogant. This is BYU being pragmatic. And frankly, the idea of an
alliance with Wyoming and New Mexico being the path to national "relevance" is
ridiculous. BYU adds value to the Mountain West, not the other way around.BYU won’t be able to fill its schedules as an independent.--In the past 5 years alone, BYU has scheduled Boston College, Notre
Dame, Arizona, UCLA, Washington, Oklahoma, and Florida State. If those teams
will play a Mountain West BYU, they’ll play an independent BYU--especially
when ESPN is brokering the deal. In the last two weeks alone BYU has announced
future series with Texas and Notre Dame.For more, see thebirddog
[dot] wordpress [dot] com/2010/09/02/welcome-to-the-club-byu/
@CaliforniaCougar...We Cougar fans just simply want to watch our team play
their games. That's it. If we win, it's a bonus...We all know that
you guys would just want to watch BYU playing...even against Holy Cross, Central
Florida, Florida Atlantic...just about any team...as long as it's not in Big 6
conferences.Actually, honestly answer this...how many times have you guys
watch a replay of 1984 Holiday bowl vs Michigan on BYUtv? Or on a beta tape?I, myself, look forward to see Utah in FSN here in Southern Cal --a
dream comes true since I've not been able to watch much of Utah since moving
here.It feels soooooo gooooood to be a Utes fan!!!
MichiganCoog | 11:57 p.m"BYU will be playing on National TV on
a regular basis."***********************Dear MichiganCoog -
Cut through the spin and you see that BYU replaces BSU in the ESPN
weekday lineup.BSU graduated from that spot to join the MWC.BYU on the other hand believes it graduated to the weekday ESPN lineup
and the WCC???Weird... but more power to ya...
I went to see my son play at CFU when he played for Memphis 3 yrs ago. They were
the worst fans ever. Make sure the game is played at the Citrus Bowl stadium and
not the campus stadium. It is a long walk through campus to the stadium through
tailgaters and heckling the whole way with a beer thrown at us. That is also the
year that TX came in almost lost to CFU. They are not a step below the WAC.
WOW!! This is the reason I am happy that BYU and Utah are going in different
directions. You schedule naysayers can't believe your own words...can you??
Teams tied to leagues only have so many games they cam schedule against
non-league opponents and they typically schedule out 3 or more years and
typically can't/won't change those scheduled games. BYU's bold move to
independence will take more than 3 years to get their schedule where they want
it because they will have challenges scheduling in the next 3 years. The model
that BYU boldly created with ESPN as partners is financially the envy of most
schools playing college football who know the specifics of the deal...and maybe
the Utes also!! But seriously, this is not about the money (though honestly,
that is going to be a plus for the BYU sports programs) this is about exposure
of the BYU brand and not about the MWC and Craig Thompson telling BYU how to
conduct business and how they can televise BYU sports programing!! BYU has
patiently tried to resolve this issue for 11 years, but it was never going to
happen!! Bye bye MWC.
Ybu has scheduled Central Florida? The fabled Golden Knights of football lore
who plays in Orlando, home of Disney World?!I'm impressed!! I take
back everything I ever said about Ybu not being able to schedule quality teams
if it went independent!I can see ESPNU's opening shots of the Epcot
Center as their Thursday or Friday night Game of the Day opens its National
coverage!Meanwhile on Saturday, Utah is playing UCLA in the Rose
Utah might've won the NC in 2004 or 2008 if given a chance. Just like other MWC
and WAC teams might have if their was a legit playoff system.Only
have-no-life-weenies are anti-BYU or support the BcS. Classy Ute fans don't
spew the same things trolls on here do.
CG | 7:05 p.m. Sept. 3, 2010duggity"Utah had more wins over
top 25 finishing schools in 2008 than the National Champion did."And
with all those wins over top 25, Utah didn't impress enough poll voters to
finish higher than #2/#4 because Utah hasn't paid their dues long enough to earn
the national respect necessary to win a national championship.--------Stupid on so many levels.The fact that Utah
had more wins than the National Champion, including beating the same team that
was the NC best win, just shows how stupid, illogical and corrupt the whole BCS
thing is."Pay their dues?" BYU paid their dues and won a national
championship, so the "haves" scrapped that system, created a monopoly and threw
the "top 14 bone" to the non-BcS schools. If Boise and/or TCU go undefeated
they STILL won't make it into the Championship. Mark my words.The
BCS is supported by many of the same schools which were last to integrate -- no
Kameron | 4:46 p.m. Sept. 3, 2010"Teams ready to play BYU are Portland
State"They'd have to get out of their scheduled games with PAC lo
teams Arizona State and Oregon if BYU wanted to play them this year.
Big Hapa | 4:14 p.m. Sept. 3, 2010seem's that you would do your home work
on teams that are lining up with the BYU before you type on the blogs.------------Teams like Fresno and Nevada? Oh wait,
they rather pay a $5 million fine then to play BYU.Maybe Washington?
Oh wait they canceled a game with BYU already.Look Texas and Notre
Dame are two for one deals, great pickups but not teams they will play
annually.SOS is still to be determined but without BCS teams look
for the 2011 SOS to be similar to Boise.Unless that is if they pick
up teams like LSU and Okalahoma in 2011.
It'll be hillarious to watch all of the cream puffs Utah will be scheduling to
balance out having to play those amazingly tough PAC 12 opponents Washington
State and Colorado.
Howard S:Yeah, Utah does get USC, UCLA, Stanford, Washington and
Oregon etc. etc, and along with that 5-6 losses each year...If you haven't
figured it out yet, that great victory last night will soon become a thing of
the past. Great team? Yes, but how many weeks in a row can your beloved Utes win
overtime games against overrated Pitt teams at home, and hope to improve upon
that stellar 1-10 road record against these PAC10 teams since 1994, during your
best years of Football prominence? Enjoy you day in the sun, because it will be
short lived...Whereas, BYU will be playing on National TV on a regular basis.
NOBODY will be watching your UTES when they'll be playing most of their games
after 10:00pm EST, when most of the major population centers have gone to
bed.As for this huge cash payout that you've been licking your chops
for, by joining the PAC12, is not going to be coming for another 3-4 years, and
will be watered down, to keep USC, UCLA, Oregon and Stanford happy. BYU will be
much better off, even if they have some patsies...
Now that Utah is in a BCS conference and BYU is an independent desperate for
significant opponents, Utah will be OK with playing BYU. However, it will need
to be a 2 for 1 with 2 games played at RES for every game at LES. Take it or
leave it! Or just schedule SUU or No. Arizona!
@ Dennis,"My guess is by 2015 BYU will have Alta and Skyline on
their schedule.My money is on Skyline!"Really dennis,
that's really what you think? Man, you are so SMRT! I like one of
the above comments about Utah being stalkers. Might be the best word describing
their true love and jealousness for the cougars.I say let the Utes
keep posting their comments on these boards. It always makes for a good laugh
to go back and read their ridiculous comments like dennis above, or hedgehog
telling us to mark his words that Tom Holmoe will be fired within a week. Good
call hedgie, got any more? It's so cute when utes talk about things they don't
know much about.
Hey Ute fans: YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT!!We Cougar fans just simply
want to watch our team play their games. That's it. If we win, it's a bonus.
There are just as many of us fans living OUTSIDE of Utah than there are of us
living there. We just want to watch the games. For example, tomorrow, BYU will
introduce its two-headed QB tomorrow against Washington and many of us will not
have the chance to see it. Yes, it is on TV, but not my TV and not the TV of
many other fans. Yes, I want to see BYU against Washington, but I won't. Next
season, I can happily watch the Cougars play San Jose State, Central Florida,
Idaho, etc. and I don't care. I just want to see the Cougars. In a few years, I
know the schedule will improve as the bigger programs, such as Notre Dame,
Texas, etc. will have open schedules. ESPN is on board and they will make it
happen. It will only improve.
I predict that the promise of a long term home and home agreement with BYU
will entice UVU to start up a football program.And it will be
Utah gets a perpetual home and home with USC, Oregon, UCLA, Stanford,
Washington, etc.BYU gets a single home and home with a directional
Florida school.Ahhh... livin' the dream of independence.
JohninSLCBad Hiring? Really we want to talk about that? Just look at your
last two basketball coaches and tell me what it's like to have an AD who never
makes any mistakes. You had one of the best bball teams in the country, and now
you can't even get players to stay for more than their freshman year. Any Y fan
who doesn't have on blue blinders will admit Crowton was a mistake, but for you
to sound off like Chris Hill has batted 1.000, man you have on some crimson
tinted, gas station, uv blocking glasses that only come in one size: denial!
I hope this wasn't 2 for 1 as well. Those aren't good.
HA! Just like I predicted. The first of many garbage teams on BYU's independent
schedule. I guess this is what Tom Holmoe meant by "Storied Programs".
This is exactly the type of game we need to schedule all the time. This will
give us a ton of exposure just like we need.It's these games that will win
us the National title.
Looks like more posts from Utah fans than BYU fans here, interesting.
Let's see; Laramie? or Orlando? Albuquerque? or Orlando? Ft. Collins? or
Orlando? Orlando sounds pretty good. How do I get on the travel
JohnInSLC @ 5:59 p.m. Understand, the administration of today is in
all aspects different than that in place back then: different university
president, different V.P. of the A.D., and different A.D. In fact, the fallout
over Gary Crowton is what got Val Hale fired. So yes, I trust the
group in charge right now.
Way to go BYU...even though I am a Ute fan I am happy for BYU independence and
UCF is a great place to go play. I lived in that area and there is a lot of
BYU fans in that area and all around Florida. You will be pulling fans from
Tampa too. Excellent move BYU. How many BYU fans will travel to Orlando to hit
a game and any of the theme parks? LOTS I bet
Did anyone see SportsCenter on Versus last night before the Utah game? They
commented on BYU going independent. Not something the BYU faithful would want
It was already known that BYU would have an abnormal scheduling system in 2011
and 2012 since most teams across the nation are locked into scheduling
commitments in those years. Scheduling Central Florida of course is out of the
norm, but a decent find when there are slim scheduling pickins. However, in 2013
and beyond, ESPN will hook up to find more than Notre Dame and Texas such as
Penn State, Oklahoma, USC, Miami, etc. BYU has already played each of those
teams on ESPN and would certainly do it again. ESPN would not have made that
contract without the ability to add more quality opponents. It will happen.Beyond the big schools, there are a lot of current BCS teams -- Purdue,
Kansas, Kentucky, Virginia, Stanford, etc. -- who are looking to get more
visibility. I wouldn't be surprised to see several of those schools jump at the
chance to get on National TV. It will happen.Also, I would like to
see BYU keep things local and schedule Utah, Utah State, and Weber State on an
annual basis.Go Cougars!!
Next is the announcement for 6-game series with Holy Cross
Wow...this is great. Influence of ESPN TV package must help Holmoe to land
this series with Central Florida (ranked 82nd by Sagarin).
Glad to hear BYU is coming to Orlando in '14. UCF would beat up the bottom half
of the MWC.
ms. fresnogirl, it is not flatter your reading.My guess is by 2015
BYU will have Alta and Skyline on their schedule.My money is on
duggity"Utah had more wins over top 25 finishing schools in 2008
than the National Champion did."And with all those wins over top 25,
Utah didn't impress enough poll voters to finish higher than #2/#4 because Utah
hasn't paid their dues long enough to earn the national respect necessary to win
a national championship.
The SportingNews just announced their position rankings for the 2010-2011
season:Center 1. Jared Sullinger, Fr., Ohio State 2.
JaJuan Johnson, Sr., Purdue 3. Enes Kanter, Fr., Kentucky 4. Tyler
Zeller, Jr., North Carolina 5. Matt Howard, Sr., Butler Power
Forward 1. Marcus Morris, Jr., Kansas 2. Jon Leuer, Sr., Wisconsin
3. Trey Thompkins, Jr., Georgia 4. Perry Jones, Fr., Baylor 5.
Mason Plumlee, So., Duke Small Forward 1. Kyle Singler, Sr.,
Duke 2. Harrison Barnes, Fr., North Carolina 3. Kris Joseph, Jr.,
Syracuse 4. Elias Harris, So., Gonzaga 5. Chris Singleton, Jr.,
Florida Shooting Guard 1. Jacob Pullen, Sr., Kansas State 2. Durrell Summers, Sr., Michigan State 3. LaceDarius Dunn, Sr., Baylor
4. Nolan Smith, Sr., Duke 5. Shelvin Mack, Jr., Butler Point Guard 1. Jimmer Fredette, Sr., BYU 2. Malcolm Delany, Sr.,
Virginia Tech 3. Kyrie Irving, Fr., Duke 4. Kemba Walker, Jr.,
Connecticut 5. Josh Selby, Fr., Kansas The WCC and future WCC
member BYU were represented. NOBODY from the PAC 10.
I think it's funny that so many Utes care so much about what the team the next
county over is doing, that they can't resist reading every article they can
about us. Kind of flattering in a stalker kind of way.
re;Hellooo. Might want to check your facts. In case you missed it, Utah had
more wins over top 25 finishing schools in 2008 than the National Champion did.
Pretty sure that would be more than 1 quality team. TCU had several in 2009 as
Utahfan2: Didn't Texas play in Laramie just last year? Was that game scheduled
out of desperation?hedgehog: Yes.
The Deuce"Another great team has been scheduled, San Jose State."Sat, Sep 25, 2010 8:00 pm San Jose State at Utah
Everyone makes mistakes JohnInSLC. Grow up.Most BYU fans trust the
current administration because we've seen the progress that has been made for
the past five years. A program that was in shambles in 2004, that has finished
in the Top 25 with 10+ win seasons each of the last four years.You
use "admit" like BYU fans are hiding something about Crowton.Unless
you've lived under a rock for the last decade, it was BYU fans who
overwhelmingly demanded that BYU get rid of Crowton. He was a great offensive
coordinator, but he was bumbling incompetent as a head coach.
BoringGuyIf you didn't know that Central Florida existed, then you
obviously don't know much about college football. The Knights are probably
better than several teams in the MWC and at least a couple of teams in the
future PAC 12.
Just the kind of teams necessary to, also, get into the BCS. Please check the
schedule of the 2004 & 2008 Utes, Hawaii, 2009 TCU, 2009 BSU, and the 2010 BSU.
The formula 1 quality team, 11 good teams, win the bowl game. This is not
"BYU isn't playing BCS teams."You mean BCS teams like Vanderbuilt of
the vaunted SEC which has ONE winning regular season in the last 30 years? (5
wins only 9 times in 30 years).This year PAC lo teams are playing
Sacramento State, UC Davis, Montana State, Portland State, Northern Arizona,
Toledo, the Citadel and BCS weeners like Syracuse and Louisville.Being a BCS school doesn't always mean a school is a tough opponent.Take Utah, for example. BYU has taken 3 of 4 from them.
Live Hard"Gosh you sound so eloquent in the thought process."From everything I've ever seen you post, I doubt there's any thought
process at all going on there.BYU fans have been alienated by the do
nothings of the MWC for years. I seriously doubt any BYU fans are broken-hearted
about the ungrateful, jealous temper tantrums now being thrown by fans who have
been "alienated" because BYU no longer wants to play in their sandbox.Now's their chance to prove that they can stand on their own two feet and make
something of themselves without having to rely on BYU to do all of the heavy
Another great team has been scheduled, San Jose State. For those of us in
California who are familiar with college football, this is about the same as
playing De La Salle High School. At least De La Salle has a national ranking.
Come on, get seroius with the schedule or get back to the MWC. This is starting
to look pathetic at best. Do you really think that ESPN is going the nationally
televise this game? OK, this has been a nice joke and we are all laughing. Now
let's get back to reality.
"That's the team that finally drove the nail in the coffin of Gary Crowton's
coaching career at BYU."PAC Man: Yeah, he was a bad hire. It's nice
to hear a BYU fan admit, in a roundabout way, that the whole "trust the
administration to know what they're doing and it'll be fine" thing doesn't
always work out. But you trust them now, right?
The good thing about Cougar independence, I can expect to get exposed to a
number of college football teams I never realized existed -- such as Central
Well ... I guess its going to take some time to get the schedule really up to
Any Utah troll/BYU hater mocking BYU for scheduling Central Florida is simply
proving how clueless they are.UCF is a good football program smack
in the middle of one the country's top recruiting hot beds.Playing
the Knights, almost certainly on ESPN, will give BYU both southeast regional as
well as national exposure, and give BYU fans a fun excuse for a late
summer/early fall vacation. Disney World is only a short drive.
"NOBODY plays 12 Top 25 teams, in fact, even the Ohio States, Floridas and
Texases of the college football world play several "breathers" in conference and
OOC every year. Didn't Texas play in Laramie just last year? Was that game
scheduled out of desperation?"Utahfan2,Yes.Not being
part of a BCS conference will force tds to schedule out of desperation. You must
schedule top teams and you must win them all. If not, you will be shunned.Making deals with the devil has a few clauses.
Playing ANY schedule on ESPN and BYUtv is better than playing a full MWC
schedule on theMtn!Most games are scheduled years in advance, so
it's silly to compare what could have been in the MWC next year to who BYU plays
in 2011 when BYU is scrambling to fill a schedule less than a year away.The full impact of going independent won't be seen for a few years, but
the fact that BYU is already starting to schedule home-and-home games with teams
like Texas and Notre Dame is a good sign that BYU will not be lacking for good
teams to play in years to come.NOBODY plays 12 Top 25 teams, in
fact, even the Ohio States, Floridas and Texases of the college football world
play several "breathers" in conference and OOC every year. Didn't Texas play in
Laramie just last year? Was that game scheduled out of desperation?
Holmoe was very clear that the first 2 years would be make do schedules as most
teams were already scheduled. At least they got a team outside of
the Intermountain West.CFL gives BYU exposure in Orlando which is a
lot better than in Vegas where they are already well known, having played there
I think Central Florida is a good addition to the schedule as many of you have
posted. They have been one of the best teams in conference USA the past few
years which has some pretty good teams, E. Carolina, Houston, Tulsa, Tulane,
SMU, Marshall (they didn't fare too well last night). If I were scheduling for
BYU I would try to schedule the best teams from every FBS conference, of course
some of them will be weaker than others, but at the end of a successful year no
one could claim that your schedule was inflated.As many others have
noted, it will take a few years to get their schedule to include all the teams
they would like.
Central Florida is one of those programs that has came out of nowhere based on
their charismatic coach (George O'Leary). They play pretty good football with
good team speed that should frighten Cougar fans.Now the bad, they
can easily disappear into total football oblivion just as fast. No Central
Florida is not Weber State but easily could be if O'Leary leaves or retires.
This is a program in a state full of talent but fifth down the list behind
Florida, Miami, Florida State, and South Florida and could in the end could be
fighting for talent with Florida International.It's the type of game
that in the end the Cougs have more to lose because Central Florida right now is
a program that is actually better than most people believe.
All you bitter Ute fans - duggity, kidicky, Chris B, Uteology, Live Hard - are
being absolutey ridiculous. It's like you're throwing a childish tantrum because
someone has something you can't, so you've thrown yourself down on the floor,
started kicking your feet, crying and calling the person that has the thing
names. What is the deal? Stop being so jealous! Utah got the invite to a BSC
conference, so quitcherbellyachin'.If you'd have bothered to listen
or read ANYTHING Tom Holmoe said at Wednesday's press conference, you would have
noticed he did say that scheduling for 2011 and 2012 would need to be fleshed
out a bit since schedules, especially non-conference schedules - pay attention,
now; you should know this - are generally made several years in advance. Teams
with already inked schedules can't "unink" them without consequences, I'm
sure.And what? BYU is supposed to completely fill their schedule,
week after week, with the likes of the 'Canes, the Longhorns, the 'Huskers, the
Sooners, etc.? Even those teams don't play high-caliber teams every week; they
have "cupcake" games as well.So lay off; get a life.
JohnInSLC" In your struggle to find a Ute put-down, you apparently
forgot that one of those other 8 patsies was . . . wait for it . . . BYU"Actually, I didn't forget at all, in fact the 2004 BYU team (4-8) was
one of the worst BYU teams in the last 50 years.That's the team that
finally drove the nail in the coffin of Gary Crowton's coaching career at
PAC "man". Why are we jealous? And there is no team out there that schedules
top 25 teams for every OOC game so your response is not valid. Here's the
thing. If I were a BYU fan I would be ticked off at this schedule. If they had
a tough schedule and were adding Central Florida in order to give the team a
break from the constant testing than I would understand it. But this schedule
is BAD. Only two good teams in Oregon and Texas with the possibility of adding
Utah. From there you have five (possibly four depending on how much Utah State
improves) pure sugary cupcakes. I would be angry at spending my money on
tickets for those kind of games. And they follow that by adding a cream puff
like Central Florida? I'm not trolling or ripping on BYU here. I'm complaining
at the lack of decent teams on the schedule. This is exactly what BYU and Utah
fans were ripping on Boise State for for the last several years. I just hope
the Notre Dame thing happens so their SOS won't be so low. BYU still needs two
more good teams.
I think the cougars should follow the Utes example and schedule tough teams like
Weber State. Maybe if BYU scheduled Weber State like the Utes did in 2008 they
could have gone to the BCS too?
UCF is an up and coming football program. They are decent now, and could be very
good by 2014. Good opponent I think.
This is huge. Oh my heck! Isn't Central Florida one of the top 8 teams in
Florida? Teams ready to play BYU are Texas Southern, Oral Roberts, University of
Anchorage, Portland State, Idaho State, Middle Tennessee State, Mesa Community
College, Grand Junction Technical College, North Dakota, South Dakota and Dixie
State. It's wonderful to see the talent lining up to play.
Lets take a look at how the schedule would be if BYU would have stayed in the
MWC. conference games:TCUBoise StateWyomingUNLVColorado StateNew MexicoSan DiegoAir ForceOut of Conference:OregonTexasUtah StateUtahthe 4 teams they had sceduled OOC are still on thier schedule. Now the
other 8 that take the place of the conference schedule look like it will be:UCFIdahoNew Mexico StateSan Jose StateHawaiiNotre Dame (possibly)and two more schools. I'd say playing
ND on national TV is much better then playing either Boise State or TCU on the
MTN. UCF may not be the greatest team but they're better then half the MWC
teams, so it's a trade up there. And if BYU can get a visit to Hawaii and add 3
more quality (even if they aren't the top schools in the nation) teams, then I
think the schedule has improved as an independent.
Live Hard's favorite team's schedule is full of patsies, but he's too much of a
coward to post that.What clueless naysayers like Live Hard are
unable to comprehend is that playing in recruiting hot beds like Central Florida
will be good for recruiting, plus it will give BYU fans in other parts of the
country a chance to watch a BYU game live and in person.Orlando in
September or Laramie in November.What OOC cupcake will Utah be
playing September 6, 2014?
I am the opposite of a BYU fan, but seriously, scheduling UCF is a great call.
UCF is a solid opponent, one of the better football programs in Conference USA,
has defeated BCS teams, has been to bowl games in recent years, and provides
some exposure to the Southeastern U.S.Those who want to complain
about BYU ought to find a different topic.
re: Kid from Oregon | 3:37 p.m. Sept. 3, 2010 Or, it could be that
UCF is desperate for $ And recognition? So, it seems the Golden Knights are
ideal partners.I'm sure Bronco & Mickey will have one heckuva
fireside in 2014.
Given the result of BYU's actions (or in action) BYU should be looking to
schedule Utah State at least 8 times in 2012. It's the least they could do.
"In 2004, Utah only played 3 regular season teams with winning records."PAC man: In your struggle to find a Ute put-down, you apparently forgot
that one of those other 8 patsies was . . . wait for it . . . BYU.Good one. Do more, please.
Central Florida could beat most of the bottom half of the MWC, so why is this a
Uh, wake up folks, most schools already have schedules for the next few years.
As was expressed in the press conference, it'll take a little while to get the
schedule where they really want it. They just cleared their schedule earlier
this week from the MWC games. Now they need to finish filling it. This is just
Let see the U of U has scheduled or wants to schedule with th Y and using the
analogy that Utelogy is using that would put Utah in the joke, patsy circle,
seem's that you would do your home work on teams that are lining up with the BYU
before you type on the blogs."POLY" Cougar Nation
Uh, hello, most schools already have schedules for the next few years. As was
expressed in the press conference, it'll take a little while to get the schedule
where they really want it. They just cleared their schedule earlier this week
from the MWC games. Now they need to finish filling it. This is just a start.
In 2004, Utah only played 3 regular season teams with winning records.This year, the Utes have San Jose State (2-10) at home.Until the
Utes start scheduling Top 25 teams for every one of their OOC games, their
pathetic troll fans should just keep their jealous, clueless comments to
It's amazing to see how many of you are experts at scheduling teams to play
against BYU. I am quite sure that most of you can't even schedule an
appointment with your dentist when you want. Schedules are made years in
advance and having a conference takes up 75% of the schedule. It won't come
overnight but most of you can't figure that out because you still don't know who
to call when you have a tooth ache.
When the Utes join the PAC 12, watch them schedule a bunch of OOC cupcakes and
then use the convenient excuse that their conference schedule is already too
tough, even though they already have two cupcakes, Washington State and
Colorado, built into their schedule.
The schedule could be considerd equal or improved to what they were playing in
the Mountain West. The WAC-Pack doesn't help the SOS. But considering this whole
process basically destroyed their conference we owe it to those teams to keep
playing them as long as they would like.Oregon St., Notre Dame, Utah,
Texas, UCF and TBD are the non- WACUSU, NMSU, SJSU, Hawaii, Idaho,
L-Tech.The only opponent not confirmed is ND, but they do have a
schedule hole in 2011 and it's highly likely. Rumored 12th opp. is
KAnsas State or Arkansas or both because the Hawaii rule lets them add a 13th
Gotta laugh at the usual hypocrisy of the Utah trolls.Utah schedules
San Jose State (2-10, 0-4 versus ranked) and Iowa State (7-6, 0-2 versus ranked)
OOC, and then the Utah trolls whine about BYU scheduling Central Florida (8-5,
1-2 versus ranked).All things considered, I'm pretty sure most BYU
fans would much rather be playing in Orlando, rather than Laramie or Pullman.
2011 Schedule so far:Mid-majors:UCFIdahoNew
Mexico StateSan Jose StateUtah StateHawaiiBCS
Teams:Oregon TexasMaybe:Utah???If they get 2-3 more BCS schools they might be able to match thier
MWC SOS. I am not sure if MWC teams will play them anytime soon so looke for
more CUSA teams.
Hey CRB,Care to explain to me why Notre Dame is playing Western
Michigan, Utah and Tulsa this year then?All you people are acting
like we have to play a top 25 team every week. Just get over it. This will be a
good game and I'm quite excited for it. Besides, it's not like we scheduled
Of course the Cougs will schedule some schools like UCF. Hopefully we can even
do a home and home with Army or Navy and other schools as well as the storied
programs like ND and Texas. My only problem is that both of the dates that were
released are Fridays. I am excited about the ESPN deal but I really hope we
don't be playing on all different days of the week. College football is meant
for Saturday with maybe one game a year on a Thursday. I've never been a fan of
the Friday night games.
UCF future schedule includes Boston College, Kansas State, Pittsburgh, South
Carolina, Connecticut, and Texas. Looks like BYU is in good company.
Seems Boston College, Kansas State, Pittsburgh, South Carolina, Connecticut, and
Texas have no problem playing University of Central Florida. Check the
schedules. Looks like the Cougs are in good company.
Once again the morons are out in force to comment on anything BYU. Chrissy,
kidicky, and duggity you may now go back to your Wii and wee, wee, wee all the
way home. Scheduling Central Florida is much better than scheduling
a team like, say. . . a Southwest Baptist Bible College. They're good enough for
bowl games so they're good enough for me.
Chris B, which of those 10 high school teams are you the water boy for, or are
you and "alumni" water boy?
IN 2009 UCF played three teams ranked in the top 25 at game time, losing to
Miami 27-7 and Texas 35-3 while beating Houston 37-32 near the end of the
season.They were second in their division of Conference USA, and
tied for second among all schools in Conference USA.
Now Central Florida will really raise the level of play. That will sell some
season tickets. If BYU wants to make independance count and be considered as a
BCS player they need have their schedule resemble a BCS conference schedule.
That means 8-9 BCS teams. Only 4 need to be top 25 but 9 need to be in BCS
leagues. How in the world does scheduling another non-BCS team help other than
to fill the schedule. I know 2011 will be difficult to fill but come on, UCF
has to count as one of your 3 walk-over games. Independance will not bring
anything better than the MWC in moving the national meter if you don't schedule
games that can do it. Drop all the WAC and MWC games and get to it. Its only
been a week. This still sounds like a desperate program to me. Take a little
time and do it right. Don't panic.
What a bunch of losers you all are. They scheduled Notre Dame and Texas. You
guys are pathetic.
Now that BYU is independent, they can get tough opponents like the, the, ...what
are the central floridians? the chippewahs or something? Just razzin
all you blue faced cougars. Good luck to the cougars when they play central
Two big games and 10 high school teams - that's how the cewgies will be from
here on out
And this establishes your reputation as a national powerhouse how?
Wow. This scheduling thing IS proving to be very difficult. Go
Cougs!!! Beat UW!!!
Central Florida?! Are you kidding me? This is part of the amazing schedule
that's supposed to come from being independant? These guys are a step below the
WAC. Shouldn't this be 2 at home and one away for BYU scheduling a team this
lowly? Is it supposed to be the recovery game for after Texas? What gives?
Pretty bleak 2011 home schedule, but hopefully just takes time to get the bigger
matchups.Playing in Orlando is fun and great to see the flexibility
the national schedule helps provide