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Pew study says recession has slowed migration

Published: Thursday, Sept. 2 2010 12:10 a.m. MDT

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Reggie

Gee, I guess it's not a problem any more.

Let's see. If there are an estimated 70,000 illegals IN THE STATE'S WORK FORCE (not counting the anchor babies, ESL kids in our schools and emergency rooms, and other people outside the work force) and we have 70,000 out of work citizens in the state - does that mean we'd be at 0% unemployment if the illegals all went home?

Ken

A decrease in anything illegal is a good thing.

Not_Scared

You get censored for bring up this as been know for two months.

Notice there are no comments because its good news. Conservatives hate solutions. They love whining.

Stalwart Sentinel

Haha, it looks like the conservative's economy killing agenda is working.

Pagan

* 'U.S. sets another record for deporting illegal immigrants' - By Lee Davidson - DSNews - 08/19/10

Line:
'Federal immigration officials deported a record number of illegal immigrants last year – the seventh year in a row – the Department of Homeland Security reported on Wednesday.'

RRB

It seems like a short time ago, the number of people illegally in Utah was 200,000.

I've seen no drop in the families living by me. Has anyone else? I do know they have went to low visibility in the neighborhood.

On August 20 ICE chief Morton issued a moratorium on deportation of people being deported that had relatives living here.

Pagan

*'Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration' - By Peter Slevin - 07/26/10 - Washington Post

Line:
'The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office.'

GWB

I thought Obama wanted more illegals to come here so they could vote for him...



SLars

The drop in numbers during 2008 and 2009 has already been reported by PEW in a previous release.

Why do a new study on old figures?

MormonDem

The funniest part about this whole report? The number of illegal immigrants in Arizona stayed the same.

BillyBobUT

So in other words, no one really knows the size of the problem, the actual economic impact, and the reason for inflow/outflow.

Yet, our reactionary conservative Legislators (who just happen to be up for re-election this November) believe they have a solution to this undefined problem?

TheCanuck

The Pew data may be skewed as its not exactly an impartial organization. It is possible that the pew data is a publicity stunt designed to make the Utah public feel like the problem is self correcting and that we do not need the new Sandstrom law next year.

I say go forward with the new law anyway.

Bring some jobs home to the USA and Utah. We need work here.

CARL

This reversal of illegal immigrants is caused by United States of America becoming second class due to President Obama's socialist policy. No one wants to come here when expectations were equal or lower than their home country.

desertsage

Actually...couldn't a "reverse flow of illegal immigration" mean that we're sending our poor uneducated unskilled workers to Mexico?"

Oh wait...they don't allow illegal immigration. It's punishable by imprisonment.

Silly, silly me!

Keith43

"Jeffrey Passel, author of the report, said immigration flows are down nationally and have reversed for the first time in two decades. He said that is probably because the recession destroyed jobs for many immigrants, and also because border enforcement has been beefed up in recent years."

Could it just possibly be that the numbers are dropping because even the illegals, see the loser that Obama is; and, don't even trust that the economy will improve? LOL

JanSan

I just read another article a few days ago saying that in spite of the new AZ law that immagration was up...
Soooooooooo which is it? One day they say it is up and just a few days later they say it is up?

Say No to BO

How many illegals are there? Well, the name Jeff Passel is key to understanding the question.

Jeff used to work for the census bureau and he came up with the remainder or residual theory. It states that if 33 million people report to the census that they are foreign-born and you know that 10 million are naturalized citizens, 10 million hold green cards and 3 million hold temporary visas (all numbers KNOWN to the government), then 33-10-10-3=10 million illegal aliens.

And it is an absurd calculation. It fails to consider the undercount based on illegal status, living in out-of-code housing, the language barrier and a general distrust of government that leads to illegal aliens hiding from the census.

Other sources say 20 million based on housing data and school enrollment. (The Underground Labor Force Is Rising To The Surface by Robert Justich and Betty Ng, CFA January 3, 2005).

And where is Mr. Passel today? He works for Pew, the authors of the study.

I agree that illegal aliens are leaving because of the economy. I disagree that the baseline number was 12 million.

Keith43

@JanSan,

Proves one thing, and one thing only; and that is, you can't trust the media, nor the politicians, to tell the truth - especially the democrats!

Bryan

This is good news, but we still need strong laws in place here in Utah for those illegals that are "hunkering down" and won't leave on their own. Along with those laws we also need enforcement to do their job, otherwise nothing happens, which is how we got in this predicament in the first place.

Despite what many say, it is absolutely possible to significantly reduce the numbers of illegals here. Although we'll never get rid of the problem completely, by tough interior enforcement the vast majority of those living here illegally will find that they won't be living the kind of life they thought they would.

Pipes

Just goes to show that Omama and the Dems have screwed the country up so much that even illegal immigrants from 3rd world countrie don't want to stay.

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