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Published: Thursday, Sept. 2 2010 12:00 a.m. MDT

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To TjMcDonald: Yes it is our doctrine. But I look at it this way, during the Milenium there will be Temple work going on all day long. I am sure that HF knows what is best at this time and will provide a time and place for this precious work to go forth. Until then, I like what the church is doing in trying to find a peaceful solution. Hope that helps answer your concern,


"The photograph is interesting. Where did all the leafs go in the background? "
It must be a conspiracy. Maybe the leaves were removed in Photoshop?

Vicki Baker

Response to TJMcDonald - The churh has many times postponed things to have them take place at a later date when it would be less controverial. Just like a parent postponing giving a child at toy/opportunity until that child is best ready for it. I believe the Church acted wisely in this matter. As my mother always said "it's easier to catch flies with honey than sandpaper". Well Done LDS leaders for making peace now, so that in the future we as members will have smooth sailing when doing the Lord's work.


To the person who noticed no leaves on the trees. Good observation. it's probably a file foto.


@John Pack Lambert: What is your source for statement that many of the Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust did not believe in Gd? While it is true that there were many secular Jews living in Europe at the time of the Holocaust, that does not necessarily mean that they did not believe it Gd- it means that they did not follow Orthodox Judaism. It is possible to be a Jew, to believe in Gd and not follow Orthodox Judaism. The Nazis and their Allies may have murdered the Jews because they identified Jews as a "race" (despite the fact that there is no such thing as a Jewish race), but this does not mean that they were not religious. A relationship with Gd is a personal thing - and it is a disservice to the victims of the Holocaust make judgments about the religious beliefs of those who were murdered.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan

To skeptic,
It does not matter what race I think the Jews are in discussing the holocaust.

What matters is what the Nazis thought. What the Nazis thought was that the Jews were a unique race.


@VF - Temple work will continue during the 1,000 year millenium for all those who have lived on the earth. The work will likely be at far less that the halfway point when the millenium begins. It is truly an immence, and blessed work.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan

It is also possible to be a Jewish atheist.

My source that many of the Jews killed were such is Dr. David Weinberg, my professor of Holocaust History at Wayne State University.

My source for there being Catholics in the Warsaw ghetto is Ringleblums's notes from the Warsaw Ghetto, a book written in the Warsaw Ghetto to facilitate a planne later work that was not done because the author was murdered.

Anyway, my main point is that the extent to which the Jews killed in the Holocaust believed in God and what their religious views were is an issue misappropriated by those who seek special sensativity in religious matters for Holocaust victims.

The Holocaust was not a religious persectution, it was a racial persecution. Dr. Weinberg attempted to drill this into our heads over and over again. To act as if it was a religious persecution is to mis-remember it.

The Atheist

John Pack Lambert,

It is also possible to be an LDS atheist. I am one.

Common Sense Czar

To Doctor @ 1:38 PM
"Only in the LDS church can this be considered a service opportunity. Feed the hungry"



It is my understanding that baptism is an earthly ordinance...even Jesus, the only perfect person to walk the earth, was required to be baptized while upon the earth. Temple ordinances for the dead, including baptism, will be the major work performed during the millenium.


Thanks to Relocated Southerner for summing it up so well. My feelings exactly.


Maybe I'm just dumb but, unless Jews believe in the validity of said baptisms? why should it matter?


I applaud the Church's decision. If we can quote doctrine to support proxy baptism of every soul, and use persuasive logic to explain why Holocaust Survivors should not be offended, but have not charity, we are nothing.


With all due respect, people should worry more about the security of their personal finances in cyberspace than a religious ceremony done in behalf of their DEAD ancestors' name.

Many organizations already have your name, your ancestors' names, your living children's names, grandchildren's names; AND are doing whatever they so please with your indentiy. No complaints of insensitivity there!


understandingheart: That is why people on earth are baptized for the dead.


"It's doing this not because it's legally required to, but because it wants to go out of its way to show sensitivity to Jewish people."

Would that some Muslims in NY could show such sensitivity!

Belching Cow

@The Atheist
"It is also possible to be an LDS atheist. I am one."

Now that is interesting. Could you please explain to me how that is possible?


I do not want anyone outside my family performing ordinances on behalf of my ancestors and relatives. I want to do it. When I joined the Church I was rewarded by the opportunity to take the names of several generations to the temple. Had I found the work was already done by someone unrelated, I would have been deprived of a true blessing.

I have enough work of my own family to keep myself busy. I have friends that ask for help with theirs. I know that the we are to serve our "kindred" dead. In due time holocaust victims will have the blessings of the ordinances. The one who does it will be honoring their "kindred".


I would hate to take responsibility for someone elses choice in the next life. If someone took away my choice I'd get pretty ticked.

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