Our children are over taxed with school and homework as it is. Kids need to be
kids. The biggest problem with education in Utah is that our legislators don't
want to spend a dime on it. They hide behind choice banners and charter schools
while in reality they are funneling money into their own pockets... All legally
of course. Get rid of the tests. Teach to the core and fund education. Those are
The LDS school system is the seminary. And somehow, through no cooperation with
the state land is available next to every school. And school administrators do
the scheduling for you. (I went to Catholic school)
Hey, Jane, so where is the LDS school system? what did Pres. Benson actually do
to back up his words re the importance of education? Are you aware that release
time in other states is often in the early morning before classes begin. Math
and Science are important, too.
If I paid $21,000 a year in tuition for my kids to get educated at that school,
I'd expect them to get my back too.
MaudineMaybe I misunderstood what I read earlier. I do realize that
Seminary is no credit. In our (not Utah) area, the schools have gradually added
so many required credits that the LDS kids have to go to summer school in order
to also take Seminary. That makes it tough for kids who need or want to work in
the summer, especially since our school year is now 10 months. Also makes it
hard for those families who take vacations.Frankly, I think a lot of
high school is a waste of time--and most of my teacher friends agree. Four of
my kids actually started at the community college at 16--much more useful in
I am disillusioned by both canidates. I thought I was a Carroon supporter but
now, this is so petty. Herbert seems a bumbling fool. Why does Carroon want to
be his shadow?
The ONLY candidate I've heard -- and I've been trying to listen closely-- bring
up religion is Herbert. He brought up the scare tactic with seminary and now
he's bringing up the school Carroon's kids go to. The most appalling part is
that he's trying to make it look like Carroon is the one being divisive. Are
you dumb enough to believe his spin? I'm not! I've probably voted more R than D
in the past but this R is failing to impress, miserably!
@ jane: Release time seminary counts for no credits anyway. The total number
of credits required for graduation is not changing. The only thing that would
change would be that there would be an extra year (2 credits) of math and an
extra year (2 credits) of science.That is, however, 4 credits less
of electives. So kids will have to choose - take a non-credit seminary release
time class or take a for credit (but not needed for graduation) elective in
something else that interests them.Last year, Buttars recommended
cutting the 12th grade totally as most kids do nothing but electives that year
anyway. (There is one required English class that year because English is
required every year.) This would simply mean that Seniors would have 3 required
classes instead of one.High school students have 7 class periods per
year - 6 are required for graduation. This changes nothing.
What I thought was a bit ironic was that someone who obviously values both a
good and a religious education for his own children is apparently (from the
reports I read) advocating the ending of released-time LDS seminary for LDS high
school students--or at least making it much more difficult for them to both
attend and graduate with the appropriate number of credits on time. Many LDS parents would love to send their kids to an LDS school if possible
and affordable--failing that, they send them to Seminary and public school. As to supporting public schools, President Benson once said that the
education of our children was too important to be left to a monopoly of the
public schoolsCompetition in education is like competition in everything
else--it meets more and varied needs and leads to excellence.
So, following the logic, if you buy books you don't support public libraries
Herbert, if you or any of your campaign advisers are reading this, let me give
you a bit of advice:YOU'RE AHEAD BY NEARLY 2-1 IN THE POLLS!!!!!!Getting into petty squabbles like this is just plain foolish.The only way Corroon can beat you is through controversy -- and he's doing his
best to sucker you into saying stupid things. And it looks like he's
succeeding.Stay above the fray. Do your job. Focus on your
positives. Let the other guy look foolish and petty.
Sounds like either one is likely to continue down what many perceive is the path
to dismantle public education in Utah.
While I do agree that it was a cheap shot to say that kids are off limits one
day and then to bring up Corroon's the next, I don't think it is helpful to the
Corroon campaign for this person with the Madeline School to weigh in. These
comments risk making this a divisive issue and the centerpiece of the campaign.
That is neither good for the Corroon campaign nor the community. But I also
think the Governor's spokesperson is throwing gas on the flames to respond to
Glenn as though he represents the Corroon campaign. If the Corroon campaign did
encourage Glenn to weigh in it was dumb; but I think the best thing now is for
everyone to shut up. If Herbert wants this issue brought up it reflects poorly
on his character; and if Corroon wants it brought up then it reflects poorly on
his political judgment.