Comments about ‘Mormons rate at bottom in approval of Obama's job performance’

I honestly wanted to vote for Obama, but there were a few things I just couldn't support.

I believe one of the reasons Mormons are more likely to disapprove of Obama is that Mormons love America. We believe our constitution was inspired by God and that our freedoms and blessings here in the USA come from him. Obama does not believe this. He believes we owe the other countries of the world. He believes the government should do for those in need. I agree with this in some limited forms, but, I believe that charity should come from individuals, and that Social Justice (Obama's reason for entitlements) is against the constitution. Even the pope says that Social Justice is "demonic".
American Mormons are patriotic.

I don't believe that our doctrine teaches to steal from one group so we can give to another. Latter Day Saints give to charities and to the needy on a "choose to" basis not a "forced to" basis. I'm glad members of the Church see him for what he is, a man that is making bad choices for our country.

From the article:


Most Mormons identify themselves as conservatives.

They identify with issues considered more Republican-dominated – smaller government, traditional family values, a bigger role for religion in public affairs. Democrats are typically not seen as being in line with those values.


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So... what is the point of this article? If it's really about Democrats not being aligned with Mormon values (which is baloney), then Mormons would rate at the bottom in approval of Hillary's job performance, no?


Also, the poll was conducted between Jan. 21, 2009, and July 31, 2010? So some people were judging the president's job performance as soon as one day after he was inaugurated?

That pretty much proves some people never even gave him a shot. So why should we care what they think now?

I love your words Grandma Char.

QUOTE: "In our doctrines and in our scriptures, we believe in taking care of each other," he said. "So you'd think issues like health care, like education, like social justice and equality, such as taking care of the poor, you'd think those principles would make at least some Mormons Democrats..."

Really? You think Mormons would believe in a large centralized government that would force redistribution of income on us? Why do you think Mormons would support that? We believe in helping others, but through Individual charity, service, and helping. In fact, when we seek to remove that responsibility from ourselves and push it off to government, we lose out on blessings.

When the government usurps the rights of the individuals to serve others, it hurts everyone and our responsibility to serve, have charity, and compassion is weakened. The person on the receiving end loses out on the privilege to be served by his fellow man and becomes dependent on government and may even feel it is his RIGHT to receive. This great nation was built on individual responsibility to care for self and others. Redistribution is destroying the moral fiber of this country.

I honestly don't know any Mormons that approve of Pres. Obama's policies.
I'm sure there are many that do, I just don't know any of them.
I believe that we should help our fellow man in a manner that respects his dignity and uplifts him. The government has tried to lift people out of poverty through education grants, unemployment assistance, medicare, et. al. There is a permanent lower class in our society that is dependent upon the transfer of wealth from the wealthy to the poor. The amount of money being confiscated is far greater than needed but for the inefficient government agencies that continue to suck us dry and never run out of ways to spend other peoples money and cling to their power, salaries and retirement benefits. Something has to give and it doesn't appear that the government will step aside until they are forced to reinvent themselves into a leaner system.

Thank you.

How about a new title to the article? "Mormons give Obama the lowest job performance rating".To me the original title was misleading. He does not deserve a good job rateing. Period! We should care because once he put on "his crown" he should be held accountable. Yes..from day 1.

I believe a conservative Republican can also be characterized as one who is concerned about caring for the poor, being able to see the good in all people regardless of color of skin or ethnicity. To assume that only Democrats have concern for others is unfair to Republicans. I believe Obama has the ability to motivate people through his speeches. But I find it very unappealing for Mr. Obama to speak of the sacrifices we Americans need to make to help right the economy when he and his family are conspicuous spenders in their vacations, Mrs.Ombama's trips, etc. I would like to see conspicuous frugality from the First Family to show they are living the life they encourage the nation to live.

i am surprised Obama has a 24% approval rating. It should be about 5% if aken today.

The health care Mitt signed in MA hasn't had the same effect on Mormons as health care as had on Obama. Why do you think this is?

Older Reader | 9:46 p.m Mormons are a small sud set of Americans. We are talking overall ratings.

Hopefully Mormons are practical people. In any case, practical people tend to look at the longer term. It doesn't matter what you promise, if you don't have the ability to deliver it. If there are any numbers behind any of the Obama plans I have not seen any of them. If I proposed an investment in my business without rational time to pay it off, when it would be a benefit to the business, what conditions are required for the investment to payoff etc. I would never even talk to someone able to write a check. Government needs to do the same...until then, promising to take care of poor etc. is all a dream without funding=mirage.

The poll was conducted between Jan. 21, 2009, and July 31, 2010?

So some people were judging the president's job performance as soon as one day after he was inaugurated?

That pretty much proves some people never even gave him a shot.

So why should we care what they think now?

It would be interesting to see Mormons' view of LDS Senator Harry Reid over the same period, who fought for President Obama's health care plan.

If anyone has seen such numbers, please share.

I'm skeptical that the expansion of government programs is at the root of Mormons' negative view of the President. The federal government has expanded significantly since 9/11, but I'm not aware that Mormons had the same objections to President Bush.

Nor is it obvious to me that Mormon doctrine is at odds with expanding health care when early LDS groups provided many social programs--United Order, Perpetual Emigration Fund, the committee for assisting the Saints who fled Missouri. Mormons often have been commanded to provide care for those in need.

Mormons oppose gay marriage and abortion, but President Obama has not done anything to support those causes (to the frustration of some Democrats). It would be interesting to see the specific policies of President Obama that Mormons find most objectionable.

I also wonder to what extent Glenn Beck has had an influcence on Mormons' perception of the President.

I was surprised by one statement: "...Jowers notes that many liberals feel let down by the president. For instance, he hasn't lived up to campaign promises such as nationwide marriage equality for gay couples."

Was that a campaign promise? I remember him saying he believed marriage should be between a man and a woman. I never heard him say he was for the repeal of federal DOMA or 'Don't ask, don't tell' legislation. I do remember liberal pundits saying they would let him slide on those issues, since they thought he was just saying what he needed to appease voters but would change course once elected.

Of course, his marriage statement was in a national debate. Did he speak differently to a smaller liberal crowd? (Like in his national address on Obamacare, he said that 'choice and competition' are essential ingredients for the health care industry, but in a different speech to unions he said he wants single-payer (i.e. government) coverage even if it takes 10 years of rigging the system to get there.)

I can live with stances that differ from mine. I loathe when politicians flat-out lie to avoid losing votes.

It is not suprising, but unfortunate the so many LDS have an unfavorable view of the president. There are many aspects of his policies that should appeal to more LDS, such as health care, education, and environment. However, the demagogues on the right have been so successful at demonizing the President and his policies, and there are so few who are thoughtful enough to see through these ad hominem arguments and oversimplifications. For example the health care legislation passed is one of the most moderate heatlh care plans of any in the world. It continutes ot rely on existing private heath care providers. It is almost identical to that adoped in Massachusetts under Mitt Romney. Yet if you listen to the right wing who call this "Obamacare" and a Government Takeover" you get a completely distorted view of the facts. I am LDS, I voted for Obama and I continue to support the majority of his agenda. I think my view is much more common among LDS outside of Utah and the intermountain west.

I am LDS, and I think that Obama is the most LDS-like President we have had in my life time. I could make a strong case for this, but it would be ignored and mocked by the LDS crowd because if ever there was a religion associated with a political party it is the LDS. The Church can deny "official" connection, but the culture, including in headquarters, is Republican. It is "wink-wink", and the whole world knows it. It has an impact on missionary work, not only in the U.S., but also ion other countries. This de facto affiliation and identification excludes over half of all people from the Gospel as taught by the Church. It is truly a serious problem, though you Republicans can't see the problem. Non-Republicans are not fully accepted in the culture of the Church.

I am a Mormon and I support President Obama. It is hard to believe that Many Mormons still support the Republican party, the same one that rejected or did not support Mitt Romney to win the primaries, just because he was Mormon. I cannot have respect for such a party that values people's religion more than talent, acomplishments and virtue. a party that chose such a patetic couple to run for the presidency, instead of choosing Mitt. Mitt was a safe ticket against Obama.

"In our doctrines and in our scriptures, we believe in taking care of each other," he said. "So you'd think issues like health care, like education, like social justice and equality, such as taking care of the poor, you'd think those principles would make at least some Mormons Democrats. More Mormons Democrats than there are now."

Very true, Mr. Vogel, but look around you. Unfortunately, political dogma in Utah supercedes religious doctrine.