Comments about ‘Corroon campaign criticizes Herbert for injecting religion in guv campaign’

Ha! Electives from 6 to 4? Explain this then, Peter Corroon: Your education plan says both 22 hours required for graduation, and 20 core hours. So what is it?

Either way, Herbert is correct that something has got to give. Arts? Release time? We don't know, but those 2 or 4 hours or whatever you are claiming today are not going to be electives anymore.

Sheryl Allen fits well as a Democrat. She plays the victim extremely well. Only problem is, Utahns can see through it. Either your reducing electives, and therefore opportunities for arts classes and seminary, or you are not.

I still can't stop laughing at the "religious race card" from Corroon. What, did Herbert say that Hispanic Mormon kids wouldn't be able to take seminary? Corroon flat doesn't get it.

A year ago Buttars wanted to cut 12th grade because no one takes anything but electives that year - with Corroon's plan, they could take science and math that year along with all their electives. That's a bad thing, how?

My daughter's counselor told me release seminary was a major issue for schools in building schedules and what classes they offered. Open an LDS school like catholics do if you want religious instruction during school hours.

LDS can take their religion classes before or after school... LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

Peter, Peter, Peter!
Religion is not a race.
Gender is not a race.

And as for the good Doctor, they already have built religious schools next to most public high schools and middle schools and in the process have also did not remove them from the public education system.

Best of both worlds.

That being said, I have always felt that the requirements for high school graduation were less than challenging and is certainly better than dropping a year as a cost cutting measure.

Seminary is great preparation for life.

who's going to pay for all those kids that now sit in seminary classes at LDS expense but will go to public school with Corroon's plan. Oh, probably the big tax increases Corroon has planned. or perhaps all the Mormon haters on this site. this idea will destroy the budgets at a time when there's little money to begin with.

Poor Utah Mormons, they might have to do early morning seminary - like every other Latter-day Saints in the entire world!

Early morning seminary builds character, release time is a joke and a waste of church funds.

Seminary is great, I took it at six in the morning for four years.
I think most people are off track here. We don't need more vigor, more credits, incentive pay, standardized testing, OR teacher reporting to improve our schools.
As an English teacher in a Utah school, I have more than 200 students. My classes have as many as FORTY-FIVE students. There is no way that our teachers can adequately teach your children with that many students in the room.
We can't give them the help they need. We can't give them the attention they need. We babysit, spend hours and hours grading papers that we can't fully help them fix. Teachers get burned out and end up taking easier and better paying jobs.
In the end EVERYONE LOSES.
THAT'S what Utah needs to fix.

Sound like they're both a bit off...

Oh Please!! Having 2 kids graduate in the last few years, I can honestly say nothing of significant value would have been missed by adding an additional math and science class!! Both my kids only had one core required class each semester of their Sr. year. What really bugs me about this story is that Herbert IS playing the religion card by bringing it up. Then he has the gall to play innocent. If seminary is a priority, kids will find a way to fit it in even if it means early morning. If it's not, they won't. Yes, I'm LDS and yes, both kids graduated from seminary.

Governor Herbert has fairly well disgraced himself in the way he is now campaigning.

Herbert is blatantly pandering.

He created a false impression that release time is being threatened when it is not.

He criticizes birth right citizenship when he has no power to change it.

While Corroon may be on the right track with tougher graduation requirements, what he is proposing is really quite insignificant if you step back and look at all of the problems with public education.

I'm not impressed with either candidate when it comes to their plans for education.

Hebert is right on both counts.
LDS parents openly support Public Schools. Just study what happens in areas with high concentrations of Orthodox Jews. They want to send their children to private schools, and to accomplish this they work to lower property-tax rates.

If Corroon thinks Public Schools are so wonderful he should send his children there. If, as he obviously does, he thinks that private schools are better, than he should support vouchers.

Even those who dislike Release Time Seminary admit that Coroons higher graduation requirements have the result of making it more difficult.

What people have failed to look into is why if Utah underspends on education, it has such positive results. The answer is there is a close correlation between family stability, religious involvement and educational achievement.

Due to this fact, Corron's war on release-time seminary, which among other things provides students with another avenue for leadership development, is ill-advised.

I think people on all sides of the issue should be glad that Herbert spoke the issue, instead of voicing a fake objection to appeal to the liberals attempts to make mention of religion taboo.

an example of partisan hyperbole

"war on release-time seminary" - John Pack Lambert of Michigan | 10:58 p.m. Aug. 27, 2010

The Governor has disappointed. Anyone who has been around Utah politics for very long knows exactly what he is doing here. Shame on him.

And I agree with the early morning seminary argument. If the schedule is full, take early morning. I did in high school in Utah and my kids did outside of Utah.

Herbert isn't up to snuff to be the governor. He's a gomer in office. I'm not saying Coroon should be governor either, but Huntsman did Utah no favors by choosing Herbert to be the Lt. Gov.

And Amen to the idea of having students attend seminary before school. Kids in Utah have it cosy. Go during the morning like everyone else and your testimony will be stronger. :)

Peter Corroon is hypocrite. He sends his children to private school and preaches public education.