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Published: Friday, Aug. 27 2010 11:12 p.m. MDT

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cjb

Their religion has caused motivated them to abandon half their young teen boys so the other half can live the law of polygamy. These are known as the lost boys who at age 13 or 14 are kicked out of home and community and left to fend for themselves.

Can't you people see how wrong this is? Why don't you give up your degenerate religion and find something better?

Anonymous Infinity

Why has a group like this and others perhaps across the country able to circumvent the law? I thought polygamy was illegal in the United States of America, as well as all the separate States. As Mr. Shurtleff says, the only people making money on this are the attorneys. This is just a sad farce and must be brought to a conclusion, shutting off these blood sucking legal people on both sides. The State of Utah should close down this behavior and so-called religion.

Eowyn77

@ Anonymous Infinity: Google "Short Creek Raid." They tried to do just that back in the 1950's and public outcry (especially outside of Utah) made the whole thing a debacle even worse than the YFZ Ranch Raid in Texas. It also drove the polygamists even more underground, with the result that other abuses (like underage "marriages") occur even more frequently.

Tom Smith

Mr. Shurtleff has made a career out of persecuting the FLDS. Nothing objective will ever come out of his mouth on this issue. It is interesting that it is too late to visit this legal action on the part of the State... this appears to be another judicial maneuver to circumvent religious freedom while the entire U.S. is willing to champion the religious rights of Islam. All rights and freedoms in America are a pick and choose process by the Office of Justice and Law Enforcement. The Government never looses.

snowman

cjb: They have the right under the constitution to live their religon as they want.

Hutterite

Religious freedom can't be limitless. If what this outfit is doing is religous freedom watch for my equally religously free polygamy by the hour and casino facility (church) coming soon in salt lake. Religiously free, not financially. And, like all good religions, it will feature a compound. With ample covered free parking. Vive la religous freedom.

Resolute Voice

They (FLDS) may have a right to practice their religion but they have an obligation to pay their bill's. Each of us has a duty to make sure that our business is conducted with the law even if we do not like the law. This is what the Utah Supreme Court upheld.

snowman

Resolute Voice: One has nothing to do with the other. Paying bills has nothing to do with religion.

GrannyToad

FLDS has not now and never has anything to do with the Trust. Those people never had any say about anything once they'd given away what was theirs. The Trust has nothing whatever to do with any religion, it was nothing more than a communist-inspired ripoff. And as the court said, Warren Jeffs tricked them into not even speaking up.

Hellooo

Lawyers protecting lawyers. The state takes over the trust "to protect it assets" appoints a trustee that over charges and bankrupts the trust, and then this group of cronies says oh you protested to late. So much for protecting the interests of the trust beneficiaries. GrannyToad "communist-inspired ripoff"?????

GrannyToad

Hellooo yes not much on history are you? There are all of what, two or three beneficiaries, and one's in prison there in Utah but headed for a Texas penitentiary. I'll tell you again that FLDS didn't exist when UEP Trust was formed under Utah state laws.

GrannyToad

1) There are only 2 or 3 trust beneficiaries including Warren Jeffs.

2) Yes, history, Hellooo. You put in get nothing out with no promises or expectations otherwise.

3) What overcharges? It's a fact that FLDS has gone overboard trying to bankrupt UEPT, but so long as there are assets over and above it's not done yet.

snowman

GrannyToad: The FLDS ave been in Utah for a very long time.

GrannyToad

res: what's a long time to you may not be to me. I'm a pre-war model, that's WWII. Time exists so that everything doesn't happen at once.

GrannyToad

I read on other blogs vulgar threats of scorched earth, that if FLDS can't have it then nobody can. The thing is that Wisan has been trying to give them deeds to their homes for instance but they've been instructed by their malevolent prophet to refuse and so they've refused. So far.

GrannyToad

Who was it back there who didn't have the concepts in mind of commune, communal, communist &c?

My pioneer folks who trekked to Deseret didn't have it nearly so bad as what UEPT pulled off on those FLDS people.

snowman

GrannyToad: They were here in the mid to late 1880s

GrannyToad

FLDS didn't exist 1880s, what's that about, snowman? I've never appreciated revisionist history.

snowman

GrannyToad: They are a breakaway group from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints. They have existed since before the Saints came to Utah.

snowman

They date back to the mid-19th century

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