I have to admit I was leery of this new board, but admit I am pleasantly
surprised by it's members. I'm familliar with a few of the members and their
contributions to society. I am particularly familiar with and impressed by
Michael McConnell. It will be interesting to hear from this diverse
Did anyone else find this discussion of "values" and what the paper is going to
do to promote them weirdly vague? I guess we'll see over time.
I'm impressed with the qualifications and diversity of this editorial board as I
am with the newspaper's mission. I have two recommendations for perhaps two
other members of the board, not by name, but by area of expertise. I believe
there needs to be someone with a background in environmental stewardship.
Please note that I do not mean activism. I mean someone with a deep history of
personally preserving, protecting and increasing the value of our natural
resouces. Secondly, I recommend someone with a strong rural heritage. Many of
the DNews' readers are from small towns and someone who can provide editorial
oversight relative to small town values would be a good addition to this august
I do like the idea of an advisory board, and I am glad some effort was made
toward diversity in terms of non-LDS folks and non-Utahns. Still, it would be
nice to see more Democrats. I know political affiliation isn't given here, but
in some cases it's known and in many other cases it is an easy guess from the
bios. Many though admittedly not all of the "values of the ownership" fit better
with the Dems.
Okaythen, my sentiments are the same. These values are so vague, they can be
twisted to mean anything. I've seen a lot of bad people do some bad things based
on similar principles, and some very good things done because of these
principles, so I'm not really sure what it adds up to.
Being a low man on the totem poll - I bring no insight to this. I do however
believe that is a move to better help the Des News reach a greater audience - to
elevate its status among news sources. The values are the same as our company
mission - to better align to our ownership. When you consider that The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints owns the Des News it helps remove vagueness.
I guess I'd have to agree with the comments about the vagueness (or broadness)
of the values... though I think "boring" would be more like it.The
Church News, Mormon Times, and many other media deal effectively with the themes
cited. What this reader wants is some editorial media that takes a rational
(not pragmatic), freedom-based stand on social and political issues (no, not
like the pretend-freedom-defender, FOX). Well, the closest thing the DSN offers
in that department is Jay Evensen, whom I'll continue to read.
Gee - there is a member from Mexico, but not one from Canada? If the goal is to
accurately represent the North American continent there should be a Canadian
representative.Appears the DesNews bias is showing... again!
Good idea. I look forward to hearing from each of them.
This IS news. Things are changing.Hannity dumped from KSL radio.Bold and I think clear declaration of values.Assembly of this
world-class editorial board.Reports of big structural changes according to
rumors from City Weekly and Trib.I'm telling you, we are going to
see some great things.
TMR: "Blue, either you did not read the bios or did not understand what you
read."No - I read them, and I understood them just fine.The new advisory board features a couple of token moderates but it is
otherwise dominated by religious conservatives.It's the church's
newspaper - they can stack the deck any way they want. I'm simply observing
that this new advisory board is unlikely to change either the tone or the
quality of content in the paper. The board appears to be created for
the sole purpose of giving an appearance of respectability to the editorial
positions the paper has always taken on local and national issues.
Very interesting indeed. Clearly something is afoot with the D-news. Notice how
this new board has little representation in Utah itself. Are they transitioning
into a national Mormon newspaper and away from the Utah local news scene? It
will be interesting to watch...
This will be an outstanding, highly accomplished, intelligent, and fair minded
board. It will also represent very well the newly articulated mission of the
Deseret News. Excellent news!
I'm impressed that Des News is making changes. And it is good to see a Mexican
National on the board. I hope he will truly represent those of his native land.
Many of our Mexican brothers and sisters are struggling under difficult
conditions either in Mexico or here as refugees. Please help them! they need
our support and love.
What is the average age of this group? Newspapers are losing young readers.
This advisory board is an amazing group of proven individuals. I look forward
to the contributions they will make. I know my appreciation for the Deseret
News will only grow (and so will my acquired learnings). Thank you.
So why was Matthew Hollands organizing role with the National Organization for
Marriage, and his extensive connections to fellow Editorial Board member Robert
George, scrubbed from his biography? Or Sheri Dew's long history of anti-gay
activism for that matter?Does the Deseret News think no one remembers
In Utah there are four basic social categories. Native born, faithful Mormons.
Native born, jack Mormons. Non-native, faithful Mormons. Native born,
non-Mormons. Native born, non-Mormon conservatives. Non-native non-Mormons.
The latter category is probably the most important from an economic development
point of view. Categories one, two, and four will support this change.
Categories three and five will view the change with suspicion. Why can't the
Church understand that native born, non-Mormon is an important part of the Utah
calculus and include them in the mix? Maybe it is an a third grade classmate
told me, "you have heard the truth and not accepted it, and thus,you will be in
the next to lowest kingdom, just above Hitler, Mussolini and Tojo". We need to
get away from these prejudices. This change on the editorial board does not
change the prejudice.
Interesting that 2 founding members (Holland and George) of the National
Organization for Marriage, which the LDS church claims no involvement with, are
now on the Deseret News' Editorial Board.
I hope this doesn't mean we won't be hearing from Jay Evensen as much. he does a
great job of analyzing issues, esp from a historical perspective.
Hannah Clayson Smith was head of the Women's Law Forum, or whatever exactly
it was called, while a student at J. Reuben Clark Law School. She and her
husband were both clerks under Judge Alito when he was on the 3rd circuit.
Smith (I am pretty sure then Clayson) served her mission in the Geneva
Switzerland Mission.She later clerked for Clarence Thomas and then
was one of Judge Alito's clerks on the supreme court when he was advanced.Mary McConnell is the wife of Micahel W. McConnell. I wonder if that
would be relevant.The reaction for another Salt Lake paper to this
really shows how adicted to snarkiness its writers are. The Deseret News
apoints an editorial advisory board that has 4 people of other faiths (I think 3
Catholics and 1 Presbyterian, but I could be wrong on it) and they say this
somehow represents the DN trying to become more of a Mormon paper?This is possibly a lower perentage of Latter-day Saints than Utah as a whole.
What I think is more interesting is there is an immigrant and also a
foriegner on the board.
Are Hannah Clayson and Jane Clayson related?
To from STL, Judge McConnell was a proponent of Kagan's nomination.
Senator Smith is quite moderate. Jones is a foriegner and does not
identify with any American political party. If we are going to
start guessing people's political persuasion based on no evidence, than I can
guess at least one, and probably two Democrats, the later actually based on
listening to the person in question moderate a program on NPR, although never
enough to say definitively.In fact I would go so far as to guess at
least 3 members of this board are Democrats. However only one of these people
has held elective office with a US political party as far as I can tell, so I
would challenge anyone else being pegged in a party.I do not believe
Sister Stokes office was elective or partisan, I am under the impression that it
was a high ranking career position that in no way was dependent on agreement
with the political policies of her superiors.
To praxis, There are over 1 million Mormons in Mexico. There are only
177,000 members in Canada.Canada has 33 million people to Mexico's
111 million. What next, will you gripe that there has been a member
of the First Presidency born in Mexico but none born in Canada. That would be a
really interesting gripe to react to, since N. Eldon Tanner was born while his
mother was visiting her family in Salt Lake City and lived virtually all his
life until he was called to be a general authority in Canada. Marion G. Romney did not live in Mexico at all after he turned 17, and had
lost so much of his Spanish ability that when he was assigned to oversee the
Church in Mexico in the 1960s he needed to be tutored in Spanish by Eduardo
Balderas.Then there is Hugh B. Brown, who did not go to Canada until
he was a young adult, but he served in the Canadian army in World War I and was
a barrister. On the other hand he was also a lawyer and stake president in SLC.
To German engineering, Of course, putting 3 Catholics and a
Presbyterian on your board is exactly what you would do if you were going for
being a more Mormon paper. Hm, somehow I think I sense a major
failure of logical flow. Anyway saying the McConnells or Jane Clayson Johnson
are not Utah people is questionable at best. When President Bush appointed
McConnell to a federal judgeship he was viewed as a Utah person.Johnson made her start at KSL. It is in the very nature of modern journalism
and academia that people travel all over the country and the parochial view of
"Utah people" seems a bit off base.George is the only member of the
board who has never been a resident or student in Utah. What tells
you that the Utah count methods some indulge in do not make sense is that
Stokes, who is one of the four Utah people, has lived in Utah less time than
Johnson among others.
This article makes it sound like Deseret News hired someone that has put some
thought into what the paper needs to do to adapt to the changing environment of
News and what subscribers want. I can’t wait to see what comes from the
advisory board and the changes that will come of it.
Well after reading all the comments, here's the thing. Deseret News will appoint
people of their choosing (they own the business)....and we can choose to read
the paper or not. (we are free to choose) Thank goodness for the first
Amendment!So far, it's still there.
rawlshea, You have five categories. Since of the four residents of
Utah in this group, one is a Mormon raised in Utah, one a Mormon raised outside
Utah, one a Presbyterian who moved to Utah in the 1980s and one a convert to
Mormonism who moved here about 4 years ago, I am not sure how you calculate the
whole matter. My other comment is, stop taking a 3rd grader as the
epitome of theology. I also nave to wonder if there might be more to the story
than you are telling that might at least make the statement seem to have
different weight, but even if the child in question was the worst of bullies to
act as if all Mormons are guilty for the action of one and to be bitter about it
still is over-the-top.If I blamed all Catholics for actions of some
of my Catholic fellow students growing up in Michigan I would have unending hate
of Catholics, but I do not do this, and I do not have it.
All I ask is that the editorial board shy away from the "trendy" editorials that
do nothing but bash public education.Give support and new ideas but
don't belittle one of our greatest resources in Utah, public ed.We
have some of the best teachers out there and they are achieving more with less
(in fact the least when it comes to funding).Hopefully this new
board will be positive and build our community up unlike so many other papers
that do nothing other than tear down.It is definitely time for a
Reading the News this morning, I felt like I was reading the New York Times.
Front page, "Which Sen. Lee will show up at Utah, Iowa events?"
Editorial page, Florez writes, "Lee, a rebel looking for a cause." Back
page, by AP writes, "Conservative groups seek control of GOP agenda."
In past issues this month, articles attacking Senator Lee and the Tea Party have
been steady and vitriolic in their content. Is this really the
news? Obama lied about "Affordable" Health Care (ACA), and you ignore
it. He and members of his staff knew (as reported in the Federal Register in
2010) that his plan would greatly affect the Grandfathering of health care
insurance, once implemented. This is the story...millions to lost their chosen
insurance because "Big Brother" does not think it is good enough. A
single payer program is what he wants. That is the story, not Senator Lee, and
the Tea Party who tried to stop it. If history is not re-written, Lee, Cruz and
the Tea Party will be held up as heroes, despite what Florez, Bennett or
Huntsman say to denigrate them. Supporting the Constitution is not
idealistic...unless you are a radical liberal.