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Utah State football: Aggies break silence on conference moves

Utah State declined offer to join MWC

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  • Tators
    Aug. 21, 2010 7:39 p.m.

    Observation-ist:
    In answer to your question... BYU's first preference was to stay in the MWC, but with additional football broadcasting rights. Football is their (and most big schools') cash-cow, which subsidizes other sports. As the biggest fan draw (and revenue producer) in the conference, BYU asked for some latitude with football broadcasting rights with the MWC, since they already owned 2 university TV stations and also have an affilitation with KSL TV. However, most of the other MWC schools voted no, since they would probably lose some of their revenue in changing the existing distribution structure. They were being subsidized and knew it.
    They also voted down BYU's next choice... allowing them to stay in the MWC except as an indepedent in football (similar to their now tentative agreement with the WAC)... believing BYU didn't have any other viable options.
    The WAC was thrilled to get them. Because of Boise State's recent departure, BYU's only condition to joining was that the (then current) WAC schools remain in the conference for at least the next several years to solidify the conference's national standing. You and most others know the rest of the story.

  • Aggie24
    Aug. 20, 2010 5:22 p.m.

    Bashing the integrity of USU and BYU doesn't make any sense in this case as far as I can see. BYU was looking to improve its circumstances, so it explored an entrance into the WAC for non-football sports. (Unless someone can tell me of an instance where BYU made a promise not to leave the MWC, this does not harm their integrity in any way) USU, when approached with the idea of BYU coming to the WAC, welcomed it and tried to help facilitate it. (Unless someone can tell me of an instance where USU promised not to have anything to do with non-WAC teams' interest in the WAC, their integrity is not harmed in doing this) But then we have Nevada and Fresno State - both agreed, with the rest of the WAC, to stay together for the next 5 years. Immediately, both schools turned around and stabbed the WAC, all of the WAC schools, and BYU in their collective backs. (No integrity)

    And stop with the "USU sources leaked information which led to this debacle" nonsense. Does anyone really believe the MWC didn't know what was going on until the DN reported it? Really!?

  • Go Big Blue!!!
    Aug. 20, 2010 5:09 p.m.

    USU continues to be the Rodney Dangerfield of college football. We always seem to be a couple of steps behind which has led to having to jump off of one crumbling conference after another.

    I believe in the current rebuilding taking place on the Aggie field, just hope USU is in a viable conference after all of the dust settles.

  • Nafe
    Aug. 20, 2010 11:13 a.m.

    Scott Barnes of USU says the door is still open to move to the MWC. Why not start making prepartions to go through that door?

    It wont happen but perhaps the WAC could should disolve. LaTech would join the C-USA and everybody else would merge into the MWC. TCU, BYU, and Utah will all have left the conference in a few years anyway to chase after the BCS. When that happens Craig Thompson will be fired and the MWC will hire Karl Benson as the new MWC commisioner and will pretty much have the old WAC again!

  • Aggie86
    Aug. 20, 2010 9:01 a.m.

    I hope Nevada and Fresno enjoy having their games on the Mountain where they likely will not be able to watch them like the rest of the Nation! Did they not wonder why Utah and BYU were so set on bolting the first chance they got. Finaly, do they think TCU is going to stick around with Utah and BYU gone. Boise State could be the real loser in all of this!

  • Fiddler
    Aug. 20, 2010 7:14 a.m.

    Love that USU's program is so much worse off right now. Thanks for the boost Aggies!!!

  • junkie
    Aug. 20, 2010 4:45 a.m.

    "Utahutes1" - I would expect that in your mind "Utah" has carried the mantel for the WAC/MWC for all these years and they finally got tired of carrying it.

    Its interesting how we get so caught up in loving one team over the other, that we can't even accept what the truth is. BYU has been very loyal to Utah. Utah has shown the same loyalty, nobody every said was a wide sided deal. It has been the MWC and the MTN that have kicked both BYU and Utah in the teeth and shown no loyalty to them. This idea that BYU because they want to go independent, makes them a bad guy is immature and wrong, and neither BYU or Utah has done anything wrong in finally "getting there's".

    But this idea that BYU has used and abussed the WAC/MWC during the 70/80/90s etc to make themselves stronger, also shows your immaturity. BYU has been the backbone for these two conferences. Take of your "junior high age blogger" glasses and be willing to recognize what they have done for every team in this conference, and recognize they deserve to move on also.

  • MenaceToSociety
    Aug. 20, 2010 1:19 a.m.

    WOW! Utah State was THIS CLOSE to drastically improving their conference affiliation. Now they find themselves in an extremely similar situation as they were right before the Big West dropped football. I feel for them.

    And BYU screws over Utah State's conference affiliation AGAIN! Left them behind when the WAC conference was formed. Did not include them when the MWC was formed. And now they have destroyed the WAC conference. Good job, Provo State. You'd think stealing Logan State's colors was bad enough.

  • Terry
    Aug. 20, 2010 1:14 a.m.

    Since Fresno and Nevada stabbed the WAC in the back and went against their word and contract, perhaps USU can still come back to the MWC and accept that offer? Benson said he would no longer enforce that $5MM exit clause against the other schools!!!

  • Casper
    Aug. 20, 2010 12:45 a.m.

    It is rare today that individuals and organizations conduct themselves with complete integrity as USU Athletic Department has done. Many profess their integrity in spoken and written word but today, you have demonstrated it by your actions.

  • Tators
    Aug. 20, 2010 12:41 a.m.

    Observation-ist:
    In answer to your question... BYU's first preference was to stay in the MWC, but with additional football broadcasting rights. Football is their (and most big schools') cash-cow, which subsidizes other sports. As the biggest fan draw (and revenue producer) in the conference, BYU asked for some latitude with football broadcasting rights with the MWC, since they already owned 2 university TV stations and also have an affilitation with KSL TV. However, most of the other MWC schools voted no, since they would probably lose some of their revenue in changing the existing distribution structure. They were being subsidized and knew it.
    They also voted down BYU's next choice... allowing them to stay in the MWC except as an indepedent in football (similar to their now tentative agreement with the WAC)... believing BYU didn't have any other viable options.
    The WAC was thrilled to get them. Because of Boise State's recent departure, BYU's only condition to joining was that the (then current) WAC schools remain in the conference for at least the next several years to solidify the conference's national standing. You and most others know the rest of the story.

  • UtahUtes1
    Aug. 20, 2010 12:26 a.m.

    junkie | 11:32 p.m. Aug. 19, 2010

    "BYU has been extremely loyal to Utah and the MWC/WAC since they joined the WAC. For a long time, BYU carried the load and shared the wealth with the WAC/MWC."

    Exactly what loyalty are you referring to? BYU carried the load and shared the wealth?? All BYU did during the 70s and 80s was become stronger at the expense of the other programs. BYU did not share one dime of its wealth with the conference.

    You are correct, Utah is moving on and BYU deserves the right to do the same. But good grief, BYU should do so without destroying an entire conference and especially the program trying to help them succeed.

    BYU remained loyal to NO ONE and has demonstrated that integrity is meaningless.

  • UtahUtes1
    Aug. 20, 2010 12:18 a.m.

    Dr. Vinny Boombahtz | 7:19 p.m. Aug. 19, 2010

    Your words say it all. Thank you Dr. Boombahtz.

  • tottenhamlover
    Aug. 19, 2010 11:46 p.m.

    I move into my dorm at Utah State next Thursday. Many have blamed BYU, Thompson, and FSU/Nev for their actions; but i can only seem to place blame on the Big 10 for this.

    1. Big Ten, unprovoked by anything but greed, takes Nebraska from Big 12.
    2. Pac-10 responds by taking Utah/Colorado from respective conferences.
    3. MWC responds by taking Boise State from WAC.
    4. BYU makes a move to become relevant when compared to Utah.
    5. MWC makes a move to remain relevant in BCS Automatic Berth Sweepstakes.
    6. Nevada/FSU try to remain relevant by joining MWC with Boise, TCU.

    and finallly...

    7. Utah State, completely playing its hand honestly and loyally, could potentially suffer greatly from this chain reaction. Every move other than #1 was a direct result of a move right before it. The Big 10 was not suffering, it was simply trying to create more revenue that it didn't really need.

  • junkie
    Aug. 19, 2010 11:41 p.m.

    Additionally, I don't expect many of you younger Utah/Utah St. fans to understand. Utah was irrelevent for many years in football, and it was with the help of BYU's success and notoriaty that Utah was able to pull themselves back up and have major success in recent years. But don't forget what BYU has done for you and the rest of the WAC/MWC when they were not successful.

    It is sad how this being played out. Its easy in hines-sight to say it should have been handled better. Maybe it could have been, but divorces are never easy, especially when it involves Marquee teams.

    Its okay to continue to hate in fun, but remember, just because BYU is seeking its best interest for once, doesn't make them immoral and dishonest. BYU has carried the MWC, and it wouldn't be bad for them to show some gratitude in helping BYU do what is good for them and the rest of the MWC.

  • junkie
    Aug. 19, 2010 11:32 p.m.

    This is truely sad what has happened to Utah St. but there is still some hope for them. If BYU decides to stay in the MWC, that leaves one spot open for another team, and I'm sure BYU will only pressure the MWC to reinvite Utah St. to join.

    That said, all of you BYU haters have it wrong. BYU has been extremely loyal to Utah and the MWC/WAC since they joined the WAC. For a long time, BYU carried the load and shared the wealth with the WAC/MWC. They easily could have been selfish and did what was best for them many years ago. They remained loyal to Utah and the rest of the league. BYU owes nothing to the MTN or the rest of the MWC. The MTN has already broken most promises they couldn't deliver on when they signed the original contract. And the rest of the league has kicked BYU and Utah in the teeth time and again in changes that would only have benefited the hole. Now with Utah moving on, BYU deserves rightfully to move on and act on the plans of going independent as they have always wanted.

  • CG
    Aug. 19, 2010 11:14 p.m.

    Dr. Vinny Boombahtz

    Was Utah State part of a television agreement when the Aggies left the Sun Belt conference to join the WAC? Did the Aggies stay until the end of that contract before leaving?

    Just wondering.

  • Utah Valley Guy
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:57 p.m.

    Both Utah State and BYU have acted with integrity throughout this process. Anyone who says anything to the contrary is ignorant, uninformed, or biased beyond rectification. To the best of my knowledge, neither have broken promises, mislead anyone, or violated any confidences.

    The same can be said for Utah, BSU, and most of the other schools.

    The same cannot be said, however, for either Nevada and Fresno State. Yes, they are acting in their own best interests by joining the WAC - but you would expect EVERYONE to act in their own best interests. Their double-dealings stand in stark contrast with the honorable, ethical position taken by Utah State.

    Those who think that this world honors the honorable is naiive and deluded. Honor is never without price.

  • mtbiker
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:45 p.m.

    There's nothing honorable about USU staying in the WAC. They're saying that to save face now so they don't appear to be so dumb. Think about it. The reason the WAC members agreed to a $5 million exit fee was for that reason....if you leave, you have to pay to do that. The ONLY thing they agreed to, along w/ Nevada and Fresno, was to pay $5 million IF they left. USU simply doesn't have the money in its athletic budget to pay so they have nothing to do but pretend to take the high road so they're fans can't be so upset.

    The only argument I see that can be argued to be honorable or dishonorable is if Nevada pays the $5 million they verbally agreed to pay. They should pay that but if they and Fresno pay then they should not be give a hard time for leaving.

    USU missed this one big time.

  • Observation-ist
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:41 p.m.

    Hedgehog and Otis ... you're idiocy and hipocracy astound me. BYU was as 'loyal' to the MWC as the Utes were. If you don't think the U had discussions with the PAC10 while acting in full faith with the MWC, you're more naive that I thought (and that's a feat).

    I feel for Utah State. I would actually prefer a rivalry with them over the U.

    Can someone explain why BYU couldn't go independent in football and remain in the MWC for the other sports. I don't want opinions. I'd like some facts.

  • Student
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:22 p.m.

    I enjoyed your comments, 1984 for life.

  • AggieIceCream
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:14 p.m.

    hedgehog, what was BYU's commitment? Did they commit to joining a depleted WAC? I doubt it... Based on Scott Barnes' open letter, it sounds as if BYU committed to joining the WAC on the condition that the WAC stayed intact. Seems like a reasonable requirement.

    On the other hand, UNR and FSU "agreed to remain together as a conference for at least five years" and "signed a letter of commitment". And then they reneged.

    You need to redirect your frustration toward Nevada and Fresno State.

  • Tators
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:03 p.m.

    Hedgehog should do some homework before pontificating his judgements. The bottom line is every single school is doing what they feel is best for them. And why wouldn't they?
    Why would BYU want to come to lesser-ranked conference without there being some sort of assurance of stability... especially after Boise State recently left? It would be stupid for them to leave as a major part of a solid conference to one that might fall apart without some sort of commitment.
    Also, if hedgehog knew anything about USU's athletic budget, he would understand that USU didn't have a choice in the matter after agreeing with the rest of the conference teams to solidify the conference with the penalty agreement. If none of the existing teams had left (as agreed upon last week), then adding a school of BYU's size and status would've put the WAC in the best condition it had ever been in. As it now is, USU could in no way come up with an extra $5,000,000 within 60 days. It has nothing to do with loyalty to anyone or anything at this point. Let's now hope for the best.

  • byronbca
    Aug. 19, 2010 9:37 p.m.

    Utah State should do what's best for Utah State, not what's best for BYU or the WAC. This decision will haunt them for a decade at least.

    Everyone else is playing hard ball while Utah state is playing kickball and now they are paying the price.

  • Steven S Jarvis
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:59 p.m.

    I respect USU much more now. They stand with honor by keeping their commitments.

  • Otis Spurlock
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:35 p.m.

    chuckie wrote:

    "The sad part is the tears from Utah fans... "


    Tears from laughing so hard it hurts!! :)

  • Laser
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:34 p.m.

    Looks like Fresno and Nevada have got some dirt on their hands. Shameful.

  • 1984 for life
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:34 p.m.

    Aggies aren't stupid and neither is BYU. BYU to old WAC was plan A. USU and BYU are in this together and plan B will be new WAC. With help from ESPN (who has a contract with the WAC) BYU convinces SDSU, UNLV, BSU, TCU, Hawaii, Air Force and one other to go to the new WAC. With USU, new WAC now has 8 football schools and BYU as an independant in football and a WAC member for everything else. The "new" WAC's tv revenue with ESPN would increase with the addition of a So. Cal market, the Vegas market and a Texas market and the WAC will easily be able to pay these teams more $ than the MWC does ($1.2M each). BYU operates as a football independant and keeps its ESPN and BYUTV revenue and schedules 4-6 WAC teams every year including USU, BSU, TCU, UNLV or SDSU. and Hawaii (to pick up the extra cash for a 13th game). Everyone is happy because every one of these schools gets more $ and Thompson and the MWC lose.

  • Magna Ute Fan
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:32 p.m.

    I am very pleased to see the high integrity of USU. I truly hope karma is good to them.

    BYU is not acting without integrity. They agreed to come into the WAC as it is constituted with all members in place for five years. Before they could it disintegrated. Don't blame BYU. Blame FSU and Nevada. It would be a terrible, even suicidal move on BYU's part to go into that conference now.

    I hope that both schools receive their just rewards and prosper.

    A Utah man sir! A Utah man am I!!!

  • Jaime Lee Bonberger
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:23 p.m.

    Otis Spurlock... "realize what BYU did to a school that stuck by being honest, truthful and upfront."

    Au contraire, BYU has played this with total integrity. It is not they who ran to the press, spread rumors, etc. They've only commented on facts, not unconsummated scenarios or negotiations.

    There is no agreement with USU or the WAC for BYU to break. In fact, the anticipated involvement of BYU in the WAC gave USU the best chance at remaining in an in tact conference when Benson and the Presidents came up with the $5 million exit fee. Nevada and Fresno broke that agreement.

    While I respect USU, their decision to reject the MWC offer had its roots in their own self-interest, as it should. Why go to the MWC if BYU might be going to the WAC in non-football? Staying in the WAC with the potential of BYU membership in basketball, etc, was very attractive to the folks in Logan as well as Provo, and would have been good for the state of Utah.

  • sls
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:23 p.m.

    The Aggie mistake was trusting in Nevada and Fresno State. Both schools are worse than selfish. Many have forgotten that Nevada backed out of a deal to come to BYU after signing a contract. When they haven't yet signed anything, they are much less to be trusted.

    I hope BYU joins the WCC. Playing Gonzaga, St. Mary's, San Francisco, and Pepperdine is much more attractive than playing New Mexico State, Louisiana Tech, San Jose State and Idaho. USU's leak of the story on BYU resulted in just what they deserved, a betrayal by their own league.

  • Jaime Lee Bonberger
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:16 p.m.

    Dr. Vinny Boombahtz: "I am really disapointed in BYU... They should stay a member of the MWC until the agreement runs out, and then look to do something else."

    Do you feel the same about Utah? They did not fulfill the length of term of their agreement with the MWC either when they left for the PAC.

  • Uteology
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:01 p.m.

    Did BYU advice MWC their plans? No. So they deserve to get punked.

    As far as USU goes they helped in raiding the MWC in back door talks, which would have been the end of the MWC. So let's ask TCU fans how "honerable" they think USU is.

    BYU and USU tried to destroy the MWC just like PAC-10 tried with the Big 12 but unlike PAC-10 they didn't have a plan B so everything blew up in thier face.

    USU and BYU must blame themselfs.

    Thompson is the man! First replace Utah with Boise then pre-empt BYUs nuclear option.

  • caleb in new york
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:54 p.m.

    if the MWC gets AQ status soon, then it would definitely constitute a mistake for Utah St. not to have accepted the invitation to join the MWC. but if the MWC doesn't get AQ status soon, then financially the MWC is not that much better for them then the WAC is, assuming th WAC stays alive

  • Granny
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:53 p.m.


    Thlete | 6:08 p.m. Aug. 19, 2010
    Poor USU turned down the MWC a little too soon. I guess that's what you get when you do secret deals with BYU - left out in the cold.
    -----------
    What on earth do you call negotiations between the U and the Pac-whatever OR ANY OTHER SCHOOL and other conferences when decisions are made to switch?! They all have "secret" negotiations. Every school is trying to position themselves in the best possible situation. Good for them all.

    Let the administrators and ADs work it out. Unless we were all personally present at the meetings or viewed the secret tapes made at these secret meetings and we know FOR SURE what was said and all the timetables involved, then we ought to just shut up!

  • chuckie
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:42 p.m.

    livestrong | 7:21 p.m. Aug. 19, 2010
    BYU owes them one.
    ===

    USU was stupid to break a story on BYU checking options...

    USU hurt any chance of BYU "owing" them anything...

    I'm sure AD Holmoe is a big fan of USU right now...

  • chuckie
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:39 p.m.

    Otis Spurlock | 7:20 p.m. Aug. 19, 2010
    Sad story and even more sad to realize what BYU did to a school that stuck by being honest, truthful and upfront.
    ====

    It truly is a sad day to be a BYU fan.

    Can a school make a decision without approval from the board of trustees?

    Dry the crocadile tears naval, I'm tired of drinking them...

    Instead, let's see what happens between now and Sept 1st, the deadline for DECISIONS!!!!

    ====

    The sad part is the tears from Utah fans...

  • chuckie
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:36 p.m.

    silentobserver | 6:26 p.m. Aug. 19, 2010
    It's called integrity!!! There was a plan to help both BYU and the WAC. If only BYU would show such loyalty to Albeicht and USU in staying firm for them.
    ===

    BYU cannot make commitments without approval from the Board of trustees that are made up by the First Presidency, certain members of the twelve, seventies, the Relief Society Presidency, etc...


    BYU was seeing their options...

    Hate mormons all you want, but deal with reality...

    (I feel like I'm taliking to Utes here)

  • Rock Of The Marne
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:33 p.m.

    So BYU wanted to do what it wanted to do, which included making so other schools couldn't do (without penalty) what was in their best interest (ala Nevada and Fresno joining the MWC- which they want to do). Seems a bit shady, self-serving, and down right inconsiderate to the other teams involved. What a fine mess this has turned into. You should read some of the stories in the Ft Worth area papers; they are ticked royally at BYU. Maybe they should have thought this one through a bit more and not tried to tie the hands of other teams in terms of making the best move for them. What a mess this has turned into.

  • Jimmything
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:28 p.m.

    Utah St., I'm just sooooo proud of you. Hope that helps as your athletic department crumbles and dies. Way to take one for the team... BYU's team that is. Everyone in this entire process has acted in their own best interest except the Aggies. To me that show poor judgement, not integrity.

  • TrueBlue
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:24 p.m.

    "I think hedgehog has it wrong."

    Nothing new there; but at least he has company in Thlete.

    I'll still be looking forward to BYU beating the Aggies at Romney Stadium and in the Marriott Center this year, but Utah State has always had high integrity and just moved that up a notch in my view.

    Some of Utah State's fans get a little out of control with their profanity-laced chants, but for the most part, the folks in Logan are just good, enthusiastic fans.

    I admire the few who have remained loyal supporters of the Aggies through several decades of mediocre football.

    Good luck to the Aggies. I hope you land in a good situation for your football program.



  • livestrong
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:21 p.m.

    BYU owes them one.

  • Otis Spurlock
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:20 p.m.

    Sad story and even more sad to realize what BYU did to a school that stuck by being honest, truthful and upfront.

    It truly is a sad day to be a BYU fan.

  • Dr. Vinny Boombahtz
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:19 p.m.

    I am so proud of USU, and equally as disapointed in BYU. In today's society all anybody worries about is whether they will be legally liable, rather than to fulfill what they had agreed to. I have been party to many business deals, that someone uses lawyers to get of legal liablity, but doesn't worry about fulfilling their agreement.

    I am really disapointed in BYU. BYU is currently in an agreement with the MWC which pays little money, and has no exposure. It is horrible. However, nobody put a gun to their head to sign it. The MTN, other businesses, and many schools made moves on the knowledge that BYU was committed to be a part of the MWC. It is not right to not honor this commitment. They should stay a member of the MWC until the agreement runs out, and then look to do something else.

    I don't believe leaving is honest, and I hope BYU reconsiders. Please don't let honesty be something you throw away for money.

    Having an honor code for the students is meaningless, unless the administration can be honest in dealing with their fellow man.

    Stay. Please stay.

  • hedgehog
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:18 p.m.

    AggieIceCream,

    Will Byu honor their "committment" to the WAC? after all it was the Kewgs who drew up all this deception.

    You know, force all the WAC teams to sign a penalty clause to insure they can't leave. Nice morals.

  • NoCal Native
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:15 p.m.

    hedgehog totally has it wrong. BYU had nothing to do with the back-stabbing that occurred here. Read the details very carefully. Because of this treacherous situation, I hope the best for USU and BYU. This really all started with Larry Scott of the PAC10 trying to create a super conference and failing.

  • 3rdGenAggie
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:08 p.m.

    This absolutely breaks my heart, but I couldn't be prouder to be an Aggie.

    Thanks Albrecht and Barnes for not selling us out. As much as it looks like it right now, I don't believe that the good guy always finishes last at the end of the race. I think we'll figure it out and be ok.

  • BoringGuy
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:07 p.m.

    USU may have taken the "high road" with its WAC partners -- but it let its fans and student athletes down in a big way.

  • LiveLifeLoud
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:06 p.m.

    @MESOUTE That is a disgusting thing to say about doing the right thing and honoring your word. Integrity in this world is too rare to be mocked like that. That being said...

    Karl Benson said in his teleconference that the $5 million buyout does not apply to the remaining six members. Hawaii is talking about going independent and La Tech really wants a closer conference. Because Utah State was the first one offered and because an 12 team conference would give the MWC a championship game and a better shot at the AQ they want, I really think Utah State could end up in MWC without having to pay the $5 million. Integrity could payoff in the end. I trust Stan Albreicht. Anyone that can raise $300 million in four years can talk their way back into a MWC invitation. We can only hope.

  • Aggie84
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:05 p.m.

    I was really looking forward to watching the Aggie Y game this year. Who cares now. Go UTES

  • Shake -n- Bake
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:04 p.m.

    Hedgehog you are priceless. Are you a 10 year old kid? You think it was BYU who abused their trust? Go ask your mom and dad to explain it to you.

  • UTAG
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:03 p.m.

    This is certainly a day I am proud to be an Aggie. Kudos and respect to Pres Albrecht and Scott Barnes for honoring commitments of this nature. Yes, we're flying into a stiff headwind and the future is uncertain. And people will criticize. So be it. In a day when everyone says that no one has integrity, and then someone steps up and proves otherwise, it's more than just a little refreshing. Good one for the farm boys!

    I believe we'll land on our feet somewhere, somehow, and likely be better off for it. There's no need to panic for a solution at this point. It's gut wrenching, but the conference will remain intact this year and there's likely still a lot of shuffling left to be done. For the time being keep your eye on the ball, WIN on the field, earn respect, and work towards a profitable conference alignment in a vigorous but honorable way. I have confidence we'll survive and prosper if things are done right. And if not, is it really worth having?

    Thanks to Pres Albrecht et al. Go Aggies!

  • Marky
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:03 p.m.

    Don't blame BYU. This is not about "integrity" on the part of BYU. The deal was that BYU would join a cohesive WAC that had 8 members, with all members committed for at least 5 years. Fresno and Nevada kicked the other WAC members in the teeth and killed the deal. You can't expect BYU to keep its end of the deal when the WAC didn't keep theirs.

  • AggieIceCream
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:49 p.m.

    I think hedgehog has it wrong. More like never trust Nevada or Fresno State.

    It's so strange... Why did they agree to the plan in the first place? Clearly they had no intention on keeping their word. I hope UNR and FSU rot at the bottom of the MWC for years.

    It's nice to know that USU leadership has some integrity. They didn't deserve this outcome.

  • Cougar Blue
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:41 p.m.

    I feel terrible for USU. I'm sure it's little solace to say that it's refreshing to see someone stick to their word, but it is. Best of luck to the Aggies.

  • CrimsonUte
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:35 p.m.

    Whoa, that sucks.

  • sports fan
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:32 p.m.

    I just became a huge utah state fan.

  • UteFan24
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:27 p.m.

    Man, Utah St. has earned my respect for staying committed. Fresno St and Nevada made some ugly moves.

    Moral of the story: Never trust Craig Thompson

  • silentobserver
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:26 p.m.

    It's called integrity!!! There was a plan to help both BYU and the WAC. If only BYU would show such loyalty to Albeicht and USU in staying firm for them.

  • BlueCoug
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:21 p.m.

    Fresno State and Nevada have really demostrated their true colors in stabbing Utah State and the WAC in the back.

    It's too bad that Utah State's integrity in living up to their commitment may cost them dearly.

    I can't see BYU ever wanting to be associated Craig Thompson again after this.

  • hedgehog
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:19 p.m.

    Moral of the story; Never trust BYU

  • stgjazzfan
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:15 p.m.

    It is nice to see Utah state has integrity in spades. Go Aggies

  • MESOUTE
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:09 p.m.

    Translation:
    We would love to have gone but we could not afford the buyout clause. Great Job by the part of Logan State.

  • Thlete
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:08 p.m.

    Poor USU turned down the MWC a little too soon. I guess that's what you get when you do secret deals with BYU - left out in the cold.