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  • Mortoon
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:38 p.m.

    To Hair; getting bigger does not help you either with AQ or your tv.., your tiny tv k will now be split even furtheramong additional mid level mid levels.

    This is a bad move for nevada fsu and boise state in the long run. The grass really is not greener in the mwc.

  • byronbca
    Aug. 19, 2010 9:51 p.m.

    Make no mistake, this is a power play by the MWC to keep BYU. It’s not a coincidence that the MWC dismantles the WAC on the same day that BYU threatens to leave to the WAC. Losing BYU would cost the MWC more money than they would ever recoup from adding Nevada and Fresno ST.

    Bottom line: if BYU never threatens to leave, Nevada and Fresno St Never get this invite, these invites have more to do with keeping BYU than any other factor.

  • Rock Of The Marne
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:34 p.m.


    Why do some of you think that BYU has the power or persuasion to make other teams do what is in the best interest of BYU (ala convince TCU, BSU etc. to join them in the WAC)? That just reeks of arrogance which among other actions has pretty much garnered the ire of teams in two conferences. News flash, maybe your world revolves around BYU football but the rest of the nation really doesn’t care; they should and will do what’s in their best interests (Fresno, UNR). By the way nice job in sticking it to USU but no worry since it is all about you and your football (nice job selling your other sports/athletes down the river).

  • byronbca
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:23 p.m.

    BYU would be crazy to go independent now and join the WAC in all other sports

  • 1984 for life
    Aug. 19, 2010 1:11 p.m.

    If I'm BYU, I stay true to joining the WAC. However, I convince SDSU, UNLV, BSU, and TCU to go with me and the WAC now has 10 football schools and BYU as an independant in football and a WAC member for everything else. The "new" WAC's tv revenue with ESPN would increase with the addition of a So. Cal market, the Vegas market and a Texas market and the WAC will easily be able to pay these teams more $ than the MWC does ($1.2M each). BYU operates as a football independant and keeps its ESPN and BYUTV revenue and schedules 4-6 WAC teams every year including USU, BSU, TCU, UNLV or SDSU. and Hawaii (to pick up the extra cash for a 13th game). Everyone is happy because every one of these schools gets more $ and Thompson and the MWC lose.

  • ouisc
    Aug. 19, 2010 12:38 p.m.

    The MWC is yesterday's league. I'm still shocked Boise State said yes to MWC--I'm sure the ESPN darlings took a pay cut to join MWC. The MWC will never be an AQ conference--the MWC is only attractive to mid-major teams who think they might possibly have a chance to play with the big boys someday. "Hey, we get to be on TV!" teams. Put USU in that category.

    I wouldn't be surprised if TCU has been talking with other conferences. TCU is only in the MWC to play Utah and BYU in football. Personally, I'd like to see BYU and TCU in the Big 12, but the Big 12 TV deal requires some Sunday games, so the Y isn't all that attractive to them.

  • mussingaround
    Aug. 19, 2010 12:36 p.m.

    Cougars --Best Little Brothers

    BYU's only official response so far to all of the independence rumors is that BYU is studying its options.

    BYU doesn't have to ask Thompson and the MWC for anything and Thompson, if he had any brains, which is doubtfull, would be pulling out all of the stops to pursuade BYU to stay in the fold because without BYU, the MWC's slim chances of becoming an AQ conference are dead and the chances of the MWC being able to improve their television contract are just as dead.

    Thompson is about to lose the entire Utah market in order to pick up Reno and Fresno.

    How smart is that?


  • Hellooo
    Aug. 19, 2010 12:15 p.m.

    With the addition of Fresno and Nev., the MWC will actually have a worse chance of AQ status even if BYU stays in the conference. They do nothing to improve the middle portion of the league. The Y should move to any conference with an automatic qualification for Basketball, and that will let them have control over their sports broadcasting. BTW, any team in the MWC can leave at any time. So, Nevada and Fresno can return and for that matter BSU can still leave before they ever play a game in the conference.

  • Ravenal
    Aug. 19, 2010 12:08 p.m.

    Cougars --Best Little Brothers | 11:24 a.m. Aug. 19, 2010

    looks like Thompson out-smarted Holmoe now.

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    Really? I thought you were smarter than that. How does adding Fresno and Nevada outsmart BYU? Neither team makes the conference better in football, they just water down the pot. The MWC look on course to become a super-league that cannot support it's members finacially like the old WAC.

    Read bigdaddy's comments. Holmoe called a hard count and Thompson just jumped.

  • RickD
    Aug. 19, 2010 12:05 p.m.

    Little Brother,

    You need to ask your mommie to read you the articles again. BYU hasn't left yet.

    Wow, I've been out of Utah for a long time, but I forgot how jealous you U people are. I hope Utah does well in the Pac-12, they've built a great program and KyleW is a fantastic coach - best of luck, really!

    BYU will leave, and with ESPN as a guardian angle. The Mountain West will never be a BCS conference, especially not now. I'm afraid Fresno and Nevada will regret this, they - and Utah State - will probably be the big losers, and that's too bad.

    The Mtn Channel lost 3 mil views, and picked up just over half a mil. There are more mouths fighting over scraps from a smaller table. The MWC is better, but not by enough.

  • Cougars --Best Little Brothers
    Aug. 19, 2010 11:24 a.m.


    looks like Thompson out-smarted Holmoe now.

    Holmoe should just ask for BYU to come back to MWC.

    Thompson should make him to make a public praise of the new MWC and accepts BYU back.

    Peace!!!

  • bigdaddy
    Aug. 19, 2010 11:12 a.m.

    @Commontater

    That is hilarious. BYU has done a hard snap count and drawn Hair Thompson, the MWC, ESPN, SLT, DN and a whole host of other papers and magazines offsides on this one. Meanwhile, they haven't said a word other than they are considering it.

    What's funny is Utah decides to leave for another conference, ho-hum let's get Boise St. Then, based on an internet rumor, somebody else says BYU is going independent, BYU says basically nothing, and the whole world is turned upside down.

  • bigdaddy
    Aug. 19, 2010 11:02 a.m.

    @Uteology

    You seem kinda stressed out about Jazzball being stressed out about Wedgehog never getting stressed out cuz all he has going in his life is eating, sleeping and looking for BYU articles in order to make pithy little comments.

    Chill out, enjoy your team rather than stressing out so much.

  • redfeather
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:56 a.m.

    Big_Ben

    Why are you still so obsessed with the MWC and BYU? I thought Utah fans had "moved on"!

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    Adding Fresno State and Nevada did nothing to change the MWC's lousy television package which is locked in until 2016. The MWC could renegotiate the amount they're getting, but the coverage and exposure won't change at all.

    BYU's primary concern is exposure for it's sports programs and the church. BYU will have a brand new, state of the art, HD broadcast facility that will be up and ready to go by 2011. BYU isn't about to let that facility sit idly next to the Marriott Center hoping that in five years the MWC will finally be able to put together a decent television package and give BYU back its broadcast rights.

    It's time for BYU to pull the plug on the MTN and move on. If the MWC wants to invite BYU back to participate in other sports after BYU pulls out, BYU should consider that. If not, the WCC would be a great fit for BYU's other sports, especially basketball.

  • bigdaddy
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:53 a.m.

    @Wedgehog

    Don't be a bigger idiot than you usually are. First of all, this isn't Tom Holmoe's doing. He's just the front man. This is being orchestrated many levels above him and planning for this began years ago, shortly after the disastrous first year of the Mtn. network.

    It should be obvious but since you're a little thick I'll type it out r-e-a-l s-l-o-w-l-y. The LDS church is very careful about their own brand and regretted signing away control of the broadcasting and distribution of one of it's own products and they want to get it back. It has nothing to do with wanting to be a Notre Dame or anything else. Its simply about getting back control of their own product. Pumping gas for a living you probably wouldn't know much about running a business so having to make important "grown up" decisions like wouldn't make sense to you.

    Also, Jimmer's final season is this year in the MWC not next year (which is when BBall would join the WAC). Engage your brain next time before typing.

  • Cobalt
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:27 a.m.

    People talk like Houston is itching to join up with the MWC, Fresno and Nevada are schools that bring enough clout to somehow put us over the top in the BCS, and that any other sport other than football is somehow relevant as to who plays each other in college sports.
    The MWC can invite Houston all they want, but will they come? Fresno didn't get them a bowl bid before, has anything changed? No one is going to tune into the great Nevada-UNLV rivalry, and it doesn't matter who BYU plays in the other sports other than basketball (in soccer BYU doesn't even participate in the NCAA).
    This is all about television money and how many people tune into a BYU game. If people can't see BYU (football) than BYU is irrelevant in college sports. So BYU will go the direction that brings them the most exposure nationally and the most money. ESPN probably is interested in BYU, but do they care if BYU is in a conference? My opinion is probably not.
    Should somebody show some loyalty to this rag tag group of teams that has ridden BYUs' coat tails for decades?

  • AFCoug
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:25 a.m.

    One thing to considerhere is has BYU set up the MWC? The MWC has been slow to make this move for years. Adding BSU in 2005 would have been the smart thing but they failed to do it then. Adding Fresno and Nevada would have made them a 12 team 2 division conferance with a championship game. Maybe BYU hacked the CSU web site to make the Mountain West actually make the move. Both WAC schools were offered after word "leaked" BYU was going independent. I think BYU is likley setting up the MWC and forcing thier hand. They may also force it to do a Texas on the MWC and stay in the conferance but be allowed to work their own TV deals.

    How about this. BYU has rights to all home games and away games vs non-conferance. Mtn/CBS/Comcast get all away games in conferance. BYU sells home and non-conferance games to ESPN ($1M a piece) or broadcasts them themselves. They get less of the MTN cut (maybe 750k vs $1.5M) but make that and a whole lot more selling games to ESPN at $750k to $1M a pop x 8 home games.

  • Big_Ben
    Aug. 19, 2010 10:12 a.m.

    Great time to be a ute! We watch the little guys fight over the scraps that we drop them from the big-boy table.

  • Wally West
    Aug. 19, 2010 9:57 a.m.

    Funny thing Pride.

    Maybe they should talk about in Conference along with Vanity, Arrogance, & Greed.

  • Otis Spurlock
    Aug. 19, 2010 9:53 a.m.

    Is it just me or does anyone else remember how much BYU fans attacked Utah for leaving the MWC?

    Hypocritical?

  • TDS Fan
    Aug. 19, 2010 9:33 a.m.

    The tds trying to follow in Utah's footsteps is a sad reflection on our program and its leadership. We've tried too hard to keep up with the "Jones'" up north and it's going to be to our demise.

    Now we have no bowl to go to in December. We've burned a bridge with the MWC, the WAC has lost their best teams and our prospective schedule in 2011 will be mediocre at best. Our home schedule will be terrible and fan support will drop.

    Our independence will lead to our demise. I can't believe Holmoe is doing this to our program. It's an injustice to the fans, it's school, and the church. I'm supposed to be excited to play USU, LA Tech, ID Vandals, San Jose St. at home?

    No thanks!

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Aug. 19, 2010 9:13 a.m.

    MWC needs to add the Aggies.

  • Nate J.
    Aug. 19, 2010 9:01 a.m.

    Re: Rodgers

    Really? Although the TV deal is pathetic, the MWC is still the better confernce. This was a move to weaken the WAC and foce BYUs hand. Nothing more.

  • ConferenceofChampions
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:54 a.m.

    If holmoe goes through with this, he just sold every non football student athelete at the why down the river. Thought he was making a decision that would be "best" for all BYU athletics. Dosent seem to well thought out as Craig Thompson just punked him. Oh yeah that little 5m buyout that the y wanted in place didnt seem to work too well. Also considering Nevada never even signed the contract. SHeesh, who is doing the due dilligence down there?

  • SJ Bobkins
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:52 a.m.

    Thompson spoke after returning from a meeting in Philadelphia with Comcast and CBS officials, who said they wanted the league and its television network – The mtn. – to reach more markets

    Yep, you add Reno and Fresno, to the deck and the MWC has now cornered the 121st (with Boise), the 143rd, and the 160th, sized markets. Boy oh boy, I bet Comcast, CBS, are licking their chops over the vast new audience. Wednesday’s moves just diluted the league into obscurity. The point the BCS has been making to the MWC has been the need to "lose" the deadwood, (apologies to CSU, SDSU, UNLV, New Mexico, Old Mexico, and Wyoming. Nevada got rolled over by a terrible Notre dame team 65-0, the same year SDSU almost beat the 'Domers, and to my knowledge have only wins over UNLV out of conference. Fresno, comes close to Wisconsin every few years, WOW. I have to be ignoring the larger markets adjacent to Reno and Fresno, right? Nope, their aren't any, both cites are entirely self contained.
    Don't you'all love the yutz boo-birds? If it isn't about them, they just can't stand it.

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:37 a.m.

    Crazy rumors going everywhere. Thompson did this to try and keep BYU to stay but if you really want us to stay we want our own TV rights.

    Seriously just let us out of the MTN!!! Thats all I want. BYU on a station that doesn't look like iprovo! Timpview high school has broadcasts as good as the MWC ones.

  • hedgehog
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:35 a.m.

    BYU is now forced to leave the MWC. Their arrogance will not allow them to save face — not to mention BYU would now be forced to accept a smaller piece of the revenue pie ( Fresno and Nevada).

    I suspect Jimmer wishes he tried to go pro last year. Y would he want to play in a “dead man walking” WAC conference?

  • wayne
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:35 a.m.

    who will be the 12th team? UH or UH the choice is between oilfields and palm trees.

  • Cougars --Best Little Brothers
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:29 a.m.


    PLEASE, MWC, don't let BYU back in.

  • SoCalUtahFan
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:25 a.m.

    No Big-12.
    No Big-10.
    Just WACky!
    With Nevada and Fresno St moving on to MWC, it seems BYU made a really "good" move going to the WACky.
    Congrats, Holmoe and Bronco.

    (thanks, Chris Hill and Coack Kyle for delivering the PAC-12 --sure much better than WACky!!!)

  • wayne
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:18 a.m.

    gee I almost agree with hedghog. never thought that would happen. Fire Holmoe for even thinking that a depleted WAC would be a better situation then they have.

    however, this is all about more TV Money. BYU will not get more money from the BYU Channel. but the BYU Channel is a bargaining chip to getting a better deal form the league. i can see BYU TV game reruns but I can not see how it would make a difference to broadcast 12 games a year.

    holmoe is most likely looking at the big 12 and what happened with Texas. For staying with the Big 12 Texas was given the right to an even more unbalanced money share then they already had and the rights to start their own network.

    BYU may get a better deal but leave the conference? If that happens, fire up the BBQ Holmoe is toast.

  • andrewute1
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:09 a.m.

    Rodgers-

    Thats easy to answer. Better competition, better chance for a auto-BCS bid, and more money in the long run. Plus for Nevada, they are now in the same conference as their main rival. Plus they saw the writing on the wall when Boise left, the WAC is a sinking ship.

  • DocSarvis
    Aug. 19, 2010 8:08 a.m.

    Unless the MWC goes to 12 and invites USU, the Aggie football program is done. All the money they've spent improving facilities. The hiring of Andersen who'll build that program given a chance. It's a shame. People in Logan have to be pretty down right now. The old boys network that was at USU for so long, the network that hired coaches like Pella, Arslanian, Dennehy, Guy, are as responsible as anyone for the situation that USU football was in for years. Too bad it took so long for an AD like Barnes to be hired. Too bad it took so long to get a good football coach. Too bad all around.

  • Bo Jangles
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:15 a.m.

    Lets get this straight. BYU bolts from the WAC to join better teams in the MWC a few years ago. Now they bolt from the MWC to go back to the WAC which no longer has Boise, Nevada or Fresno. Who's driving this ship Holmoe? Is BYU pushing the panic button in response to Utah's move to the PAC 12?

    Memo to BYU: Stay in the MWC and wait for AQ status in two years.

    Memo to Craug Thompson: Add the Houston Cougars to round out the MWC to 12 teams

  • Commontater
    Aug. 19, 2010 7:01 a.m.

    Isn't it interesting what the media has accomplished over the last two days and BYU hasn't even opened their mouths. They haven't even said one word, not one word about their intent. Enjoy!

  • Rodgers
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:40 a.m.

    Nobody can answer the question why fres and nev want to go to the mwc and their pathetic tv deal. The wac has espn. why hypocritically leave?

  • What's up?
    Aug. 19, 2010 6:29 a.m.

    Thompson seems to have a very hard time with all these teams in one year, out the next, in the next etc. He may be the problem regarding conference line ups.

  • dartstock1
    Aug. 19, 2010 5:49 a.m.

    Adding Nevada and Fresno brings more clout to the MWC and less to the WAC.

  • Uteology
    Aug. 19, 2010 5:18 a.m.

    jazzbball|7:00 p.m. Aug. 18, 2010
    Lol....there's hedgie. All over BYU articles. Hedgies daily schedule:

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    Why are you so offended? Isn't "exposure" the reason BYU is going indpendent? With exposure you will get people that don't agree with you opinions.

    Chill out, enjoy your team rather stressing out so much.

  • Danocin
    Aug. 19, 2010 1:07 a.m.

    Leaving MWC would be risky for BYU. Adding FSU and Nevada is the countermove from MWC to keep Cougs. BYU will not get the same support from the BCS like Notre Dame gets. This all stems from football seeing that they want to go Independent is only football. Being in a BCS Conference automatically gives each school more money and a spot on the 5 BCS bowls which is also a significant sum of money. The MTN TV deals can easily be tweaked. If BYU stays then I see the MWC being an AQ after the 2011 season. Cougs need to be patient for two years and stop panicking about Utah getting more money and exposure, Utah does not receive the full amount on their TV deal with the PAC 12 for four years anyways. This will backfire at BYU if they play this wrong. But if you do go independent then good luck on getting in a BCS game... just ask Navy and Army how tough it is to be guarenteed a spot by only being in the top two BCS standings at years end... GO UTES!!!!

  • Idaho.Aggie
    Aug. 19, 2010 12:20 a.m.

    Thanks BYU you just killed the WAC and now Utah State is royally screwed...I don't see why the MWC doesn't invite USU to the table. They'd make a good travel travel team to play being close to Boise.

  • Utah'95
    Aug. 18, 2010 11:47 p.m.

    RickD,

    Thank you for your "A Twin Falls paper this afternoon reports ....."quote. I will chuckle thinking about it for days!

  • Jeff R.
    Aug. 18, 2010 11:00 p.m.

    I really hope that the MWC will revise their TV deal and let ESPN broadcast some games. With 11 teams all we need is one more for a CONF championship game. Then the MWC needs to get into a bigger bowl with a much higher pay out than $1 million. The MWC will be a force and will be stupid to let BYU slip away

  • Buster
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:54 p.m.

    Kids, Fresno and Nevada can say no, but boosters can come up with $5 mil quick if they want their teams to chang conferences, so don't believe all you read.

    The source is USU.

    There is plenty of time before the September 1st deadline.

    Hog, Holmoe has forgoten more about college football in the past half-hour than you have ever shown that you know.

    Look at the success of BYU athletics compared to Dr. Hill and Boylen.

    Fire Holmoe??? Why???

  • Here is Sub Zero Now Plain Zero
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:53 p.m.

    BYU should not go independent. Article on ESPN confirms that Nevada and Fresno are moving to the MWC. BYU should stay in the MWC and the MWC should become a 12 team conference (add another Texas school). There's a good chance that the MWC would become a BCS conference if BYU stays. BYU going independent will not get respect from the BCS like Notre Dame gets. It could be a very bad move for BYU to go independent... BYU would most likely be irrelevant if it becomes independent.

  • Bugoff
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:50 p.m.

    Cap L what is your source on BYU eventually going Big 12? It would not surprise me but if BYU is going to get 1.4 to 2 mill for home games from ESPN that is a lot more than they are ever going to get from the MTN.

    BYU has been working on this option for 3 years or more. The timing is right now that Texas has opened up the door.

    Nevada and Fresno are not a big deal to BYU. They can be replaced for Bball etc by other schools. Gonzaga and Butler do very nicely from weak basketball conferences. BYU can do likewise and televise all of their games nationally.

    This is going to work much better than most think. BYU has been negotiating with ESPN for weeks. This is no act of desperation. I am sure they will have some basket ball deal to go with the football deal. Any non ESPN broadcasts will be international BYU games. That should help recruiting.

  • PJ
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:48 p.m.

    Satch, I think you're right. Beating up on Pepperdine and Santa Clara sounds alot better than being smacked around by Utah State.

  • Jeff R.
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:43 p.m.

    Nevada and Fresno St. has accepted the invitation by the MWC. That is straight from the MWC website. So the WAC is left with 6 teams and is crippled. BYU still has options on the table. The WCC, West Coast Conferance said they would allow BYU to play all other sports with them. Which is great when you consider that is were the basketball powerhouse Gonzaga calls home. The other sports would still fair well enough off since the main bulk of revenue comes from Football and basketball. Another option is for the MWC to revise its crud deal with The Mtn network. Allow simulcasts and renew the contract with ESPN. What ESPN doesnt cover, the Mnt, VS, and CBSc will pick up. And the MWC must allow BYU to broadcast games on their high tech BYU TV. Either situation is a win win for the Cougars and a Win, sort ok situation for the MWC. The MWC needs BYU and its vast market and following. If they revise the contract and byu stays, the MWC will be a force, and will get out of that crap bowl deal and send the champ to somewhere other than Vegas for once.

  • satch
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:24 p.m.

    BYU football has no other choice than to go independent. I think the other sports ought to think about joining the WCC.

    The WCC actually have better teams than the WAC. Gonzaga, Pepperdine, St. Mary's, and Santa Clara sound better than NMSU, Utah State, etc....

  • RickD
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:22 p.m.

    There's has to be something else going on here!

    Without BYU and Utah the MWC broadcasting package is worth about as much as a year's pass to Sizzler. Who brings the SLC / Utah market now?

    Fresno and Nevada know this, why take the risk? What changed from Tuesday night when they said no to Wednesday when they said yes.

    However, if the MWC gets Fresno and Utah, and BYU decides to stay, does that allow the MWC to renegotiate their broadcasting agreement?

    Is ESPN manipulating things in the background? With an 11 team (12 team? Add Houston and bring in another big market and strong athletic program?) they will have a playoff game, more money and exposure.

    I've been waiting for someone at the SLTrib or DNews to address this angle.

    AT this point I hope BYU stays.

  • GoUtah
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:20 p.m.

    @RickD

    You need to go to the respective schools' websites. It's posted there very clearly that Nevada and
    Fresno St. have accepted the invitation, respectively.

  • Gorilla
    Aug. 18, 2010 10:15 p.m.

    The WAC has just been sent back to the stone age. Maybe they can add Weber and Montana.

  • COUGARNATE
    Aug. 18, 2010 9:39 p.m.

    I was excited about independence, but with fresno st and nevada joining the MWC, I am not so sure. The other sports will get hurt bad. I am not sure if the WAC is even going to be a conference in 2011. Who would they add? As much as I hate to admit it I am not so sure BYU expected this, and has egg all over their face.

  • 1984 for life
    Aug. 18, 2010 9:22 p.m.

    Hey Rick D: Sorry fellow Cougar fan but this is a quote from the Fresno Bee "Fresno State President John Welty announced that the school accepted the invitation to join the Mountain West Conference at a news conference in the university's Duncan athletic building." Looks like ol' Hedge Hog got you on that one.

    Good day for Cougar football. Horrible day for all other Cougar sports.

  • CougarKeith
    Aug. 18, 2010 9:17 p.m.

    BYU going INDEPENDENT should have been done when "The Mountain" TV Contract came out! It took away from BYU's TV Exposure and nobody nationwide can see them! Good Job Tom Holmoe! The WAC will be good for the other sports, USU is a tough competitor in Basketball, and BYU will have a new "Rivalry" with them!

    Something had to be done to Keep Up With Utah and their new Deal, 12.7 Million a year against BYU's 1.3 TV Deal in the Mountain? What would you do? Let's face it, College Football will be played on Thursday, Friday, Saturday AND ALSO ON SUNDAY SOONER rather than later, now is the time to make the jump to Independence and control your own game times and dates.

    A Deal with BYU TV, and ESPN will up bring in the bigger bucks, and up the recruiting! BYU has the fan base to go INDEPENDENT, and this is a great thing to do now!!! Good Job, I look forward to the announcement!

  • RickD
    Aug. 18, 2010 9:01 p.m.

    DeKalb

    ESPN reported they said no, SLTrib said yes - gee, I'll stick with ESPN for now if it's OK with you.

    Fresno will have a hard time justifying the $5 mil hit to leave. I'm not sure Nevada will have to pay, though I think having Nevada and UNLV in the same conference is a very good match.

    It may happen, but it still doesnt make sense for Fresno or Nevada. Without BYU it will be very hard to get BCS AQ. The MWC really doesn't have that much more to offer, except trips to Wyoming.




  • Bugoff
    Aug. 18, 2010 8:48 p.m.

    The bad MTN TV contract was the big problem. The WAC can add a couple of other teams. BYU basketball can carry itself with good coverage. The rest of the sports are not problematic as far as a conference is concerned.

  • RickD
    Aug. 18, 2010 8:46 p.m.

    Hedge,

    I'm new here, but "Hog" chill!

    This was posted on ESPN this afternoon:

    " The two most successful programs in the WAC are Nevada and Fresno State. However, ESPN.com's Andy Katz reports that Nevada and Fresno State, approached by the MWC on Tuesday, have agreed to stay in the WAC. "

    They have to pay $5 mill each to leave, which makes it very difficult - but not impossible. That's what ESPN is saying, but agian things change.

    A Twin Falls paper this afternoon reports that Boise is considering going back to the WAC. Without BYU the Mountain West won't get an automatic bid, and Boise won't dominate the MWC with TCU in it.

    If Fresno and Nevada come to the MWC, BYU should consider staying, they improve the chances for an automatic BCS bid.

    It will be interesting to see how things end up.

  • Captain L
    Aug. 18, 2010 8:41 p.m.

    Dave K. , I think your right, BYU will end up in another conference. I have heard BYU will end up in the Big 12 and has a TV contract(BYU's own TV network ) with ESPN.

  • Dave K
    Aug. 18, 2010 7:38 p.m.

    This is a short term stay and BYU will land in another conference in a few years. Everyone is so quick to judge this, but a few years from now it will make more sense. I don't think anything is set in stone for the future, but the MTN tv contract is a real ugly deal and worth leaving.

  • dumprake
    Aug. 18, 2010 7:29 p.m.

    Why wasn't Thompson inviting these teams earlier this year? This looks more and more like a chinese fire drill. Get out BYU, we're way better off going it alone, that relying on lame commissioners and half-hearted efforts.

  • DeKalb
    Aug. 18, 2010 7:26 p.m.

    RickD,

    Pay attention. They actually said YES! You need to look around to get your information. So the MWC now has 10 teams without byu and the WAC only has 6. They need to add 2 schools before the 2011 season.

  • MenaceToSociety
    Aug. 18, 2010 7:09 p.m.

    Hey RickD, No they have not at this point. Wishful thinking.

    BYU's not really going to play in a WAC conference without Boise, Nevada, and Fresneck, are they? Talk about big fish in small pond. And I mean small.

    I think BYU is bluffing like Texas did to get more control over their TV rights, and it might not be going so well.

  • hedgehog
    Aug. 18, 2010 7:03 p.m.

    Not only were they invite - they accepted. Breaking news on the "other" paper.

    Now what tds, do you come crawling back?

    Honestly, Did Holmoe really think this one out?

    Again, this guy should have been fired years ago.

  • jazzbball
    Aug. 18, 2010 7:00 p.m.

    Lol....there's hedgie. All over BYU articles. Hedgies daily schedule:
    Sleep, look for BYU articles for 3 hours, eat, look for BYU articles for 4 hours,
    Eat, look for BYU articles for 4 hours. Bed.

    Goooooo hedgie!

  • RickD
    Aug. 18, 2010 6:50 p.m.

    hog,

    Pay attention. They already said no, and BSU is thinking about staying in the WAC now.

    If the WAC adds TCU it will be what the MWC wants to be but can't.

  • dforth79
    Aug. 18, 2010 5:34 p.m.

    So this is what it took for the MWC to do the smart thing and become a 12 team league, now, invite Houston become a BCS league and be done with this. Oh and get the a half decent TV deal.

  • hedgehog
    Aug. 18, 2010 5:26 p.m.

    Looks like BYU can look at storied powerhouses like LA tech and NMS.

    Holmoe should be fired.