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  • VegasUte
    Aug. 18, 2010 11:51 a.m.

    BSU Broco-zoob: "Ok you might be right with the number of NFL players"

    Here is a total list for you: OG Zane Beadles (Denver), WR Freddie Brown (Minnesota), LB Martail Burnett (San Francisco), DE Jonathan Fanene (Cincinnati), RB Quinton Ganther (Seattle), OT Jordan Gross (Carolina), S Robert Johnson (Tennessee), DT Maake Kemoeatu (Washington), OG Chris Kemoeatu (Pittsburgh), DE Paul Kruger (Baltimore), CB Brice McCain (Houston), LB Koa Misi (Miami), DT Siona Pouha (New York Jets), QB Brett Ratliff (Cleveland), WR David Reed (Baltimore), OT Barry Sims (San Francisco), WR Steve Smith (Carolina), QB Alex Smith (San Francisco), CB Sean Smith (Miami), DE Paul Soliai (Miami), CB R.J. Sanford (Carolina), LB Stevenson Sylvester (Pittsburgh), DT Kelly Talavou (Baltimore), S Eric Weddle (San Diego).

    Go Utes! The future is Crimson - get Used to it!!

  • VegasUte
    Aug. 17, 2010 2:47 p.m.

    It is funny to here the Tater-zoobs try to make fun of Utah by saying they will be playing in the Vegas bowl. The Vegas bowl will be the HIGHEST accomplishment BSU will be playing for!!

    Tater-zoobs - LOL

    Go Utes! Go Crimson!

  • THEeyepatch
    Aug. 16, 2010 10:23 p.m.

    How interesting.... BSU seem to be drinking their own Kool-Aid, not to much now, you might get a belly ache. Let's look at BSU BRONCO!!, with two exclamation points... how funny. Anyway, when was the last time a QB from Boise St. was taken #1 in the NFL Draft ever? Anyone.... anyone..... off the top of my head, I can't think of one.

    "That joke overhyped QB Alex Smith!"

    It's like comparing BSU's "never was" list of QB's to one overhyped #1 NFL Draft Pick. Who wins that argument... ALEX SMITH 99% of the time. Your only HoF member (which BSU claims) is Dave Wilcox who played collegiate football at Boise Junior College(now Boise State University) before transferring to the University of Oregon for his final two seasons. So technically, he never even played for BSU.


    "But you could be playing BYU in the Las Vegas bowl every 4 years."

    That would be great, not only would it be against a true rival, it would have something more substantial than just conference bragging rights, a bowl winner.

    Maybe you should worry more about BSU than UTAH or #11. Virginia Tech wins 38-17

  • anti BCS
    Aug. 16, 2010 9:52 p.m.

    BSU needs to not lay an egg against Va Tech are all of their hype will be gone.

  • BSU BRONCO!!
    Aug. 16, 2010 8:57 p.m.

    Re Uteology. Ok you might be right with the number of NFL players but lets see how many Utes are starting on NFL teams? compare that to BSU players that actually see the field. And How many Ute players chosen in the first round over that time period? That joke overhyped QB Alex Smith! If the niners were smart enough to get another QB he would be on a practice team some where. BSU has 2 1st rounders in Ryan Clady OT Denver and then there is Kyle Wilson Jets who will see plenty of playing time this season and dont be suprised if hes not up for defensive rookie of the year. Enjoy loosing week in and week out in the PAC 12! But you could be playing BYU in the Las Vegas bowl every 4 years. Thats about how often Utah has a half decent team!

  • Buster
    Aug. 16, 2010 7:44 p.m.

    USportsFan | 7:19 p.m. Aug. 16, 2010
    What happens if TCU and BSU going undefeated this year and both teams end up in the top 3 in the polls?
    ---

    The MWC gets AQ, a new TV deal, real AQ money, national exposure on the MTN in HD, and the Utes left for a raw deal in the PAC.

    Not slamming the Utes, but Dr. Hill could have stayed, kept the rivalry (which would have reached Ohio State / Michigan levels in 20 years) and showed foresight...

    What happens???

    Who knows?

  • USportsFan
    Aug. 16, 2010 7:19 p.m.

    What happens if TCU and BSU going undefeated this year and both teams end up in the top 3 in the polls? (It doesn't matter who is in the lead). I think that it would be hard to leapfrog 2 teams in the BCS polls to get a 4th place team over both of those teams into the second place of the BCS polls to play for the NC. That would certainly help the MWC if they won a NC.

    Yeah, the WAC isn't as good as the MWC especially after this year.

    I think that TCU and BSU are great teams. I would like to see them play someone else in the post season to prove how good they are.

    I also believe that Utah is a great team and will continue their greatness this year and next year in the PAC 12. Maybe they won't win the conference but they just might. Rivals top game of the MWC this year is TCU at Utah. It should be the game that decides the conference champion and probably BCS game attendee. Will be a great year for the Utes. GO Utah!!!

  • Funny coming from...
    Aug. 16, 2010 4:55 p.m.

    ....MWC Fans who get irritated about the SOS arguement when apllied to them but fling it around about the rest.

    If I remeber correctly U of U has lost numerous times to Mid Major conference teams and went into the 4th quater last year in a 7 to 7 tie with SJSU. BYU lost to NEVADA who they play again this year (watch out be careful) 5 or 6 years ago. TCU lost to SMU after dismantling OU the first season they joined the MWC. quit talking about SOS and talk about substance.

    BSU is a fantastic team and they return TWENTY of Twenty-two players. They've had 3 undefeated regular seasons in four years. They are the best non BCS team THIS YEAR, and if they can handle the pressure, go undefeated they should be in the national title but not to help the BCS's Image but because THEY DESERVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • cougar76
    Aug. 16, 2010 4:54 p.m.

    BSU and TCU are in the top 10 of every poll released so far. What happens if they both win out and wind up ranked 1 & 2 in the regular season polls. What excuse will the BCS have to keep them from playing for the NC? It happened in '84 when every team claiming to be #1 lost while BYU kept winning. What an uproar there would be if they are ranked 1-2 and neither gets in the NC game. ...and if they take one, what excuse would justify excluding the other?

  • VegasUte
    Aug. 16, 2010 3:03 p.m.

    I have always rooted to BSU. I think the coaching staff has class and handles it's players well. I was glad when they won both their BCS games, especially last year because I don't like Patterson. This year they will not make it to the BCS though. I don't think there is a chance that they get past Va Tech. I may be wrong, but they won't get that win away from the blue turf.

    Once you get to the MWC, I will be rooting for you over many teams.

    Good luck this year, you are going to need it more than a couple of trick plays.

    Go Utes

  • Juice
    Aug. 16, 2010 2:29 p.m.

    Boise Fans,

    You will learn very soon that many BYU fans will assume you are a Ute Troll if you say anything good about Boise.

  • Tommy2Shoes
    Aug. 16, 2010 2:18 p.m.

    I'll believe the BCS will put a nonQ into the NC game when I see it. Ain't going to happen. Not until the BCS recognizes the MWC as a Q conference will one of their members get into a NC game, but all the stars would have to align for this to happen. The WAC will have to wait a lot longer. Boycott the BCS and all BCS teams.

  • LOTR
    Aug. 16, 2010 2:13 p.m.

    BSU BRONCO!!

    *yawn*

    --BSU getting more Natinal love and respecte then any of your schools have ever gotten!

    --I gaurantee it

    --how aragont

    two words: spell check

    better yet, finish your 8th grade English class

    Boise State will quickly learn that the MWC isn't the WAC.



  • MUSSing with U
    Aug. 16, 2010 2:03 p.m.

    I Bleed Blue (Boise Blue):

    Just another BEW Utah troll hiding behind the skirts of a BSU fan.

    Even more pathetic considering BSU smoked the Utes the last two times they played.

    ----------------------

    btw, I'd love to see Boise State or TCU or both in the BCS championship game this year. The Cougars are probably a year or two away from serious BCS championship consideration.

  • Utah'95
    Aug. 16, 2010 2:35 a.m.

    SportzFan - Bringing up slavery, and a tired stereotype of the South, has no place in this forum and is tacky.

    Andrew J. Marksen - it's true that BSU plays a relatively weak schedule. That's mostly the price of playing in the WAC. But they ran the table and beat #5 TCU and #11 Oregon last year - that's noteworthy.

    ProvoAggie - Good points about BSU's strength, but you overreached when you claimed that the WAC deserves more credit as a conference. Objective data just doesn't support that argument.

    Jack - According to Sagarin, Bama played the second toughtest schedule in the nation last year, while BSU played the 96th toughest schedule. You may not like it, but when SEC teams schedule patsies and say "but our conference schedule is already extremely tough," their claims are justified.

    chuckie - I agree with you when you call out Otis Spurlock for his comments. Utah is still competing in the MWC. That is where Ute fans should be focusing this year.

    hedgehog - As always, interesting mix of a little cleverness sprinkled on top of juvenile inflammatory remarks.

    IdahoCougarFan - ...maybe a little bit jealous of BSU?

    Andy Tomasso - Why so much anger...?

  • Uteology
    Aug. 16, 2010 1:56 a.m.

    @chuckie | 2:32 p.m. Aug. 15, 2010
    It's [MWC] stronger than the PAC as it sits right now in football and basketball

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    Where did you get that information from cracker jacks?

    You always call me out on my logic but seem not to understand the statement, "Google before posting."

    Because if you had you would know that according USA Today Sagarin Rankings by Conference:

    Basketball:
    #6 PAC-10
    #8 MWC

    Football:
    #3 PAC-10
    #8 MWC


    If I am wrong please provide your source that contradicts my above findings.

    Now I understand your feelings are hurt that Utah is moving to the PAC-12 but please save your drama for your mama and post something besides comedy.

  • Uteology
    Aug. 16, 2010 1:36 a.m.

    @BSU BRONCO!! | 8:50 p.m. Aug. 15, 2010
    We have better recruits and a better coaching staff then any team in the MWC.

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    Really? Prove it... Oh wait I don't have a year for you to do your research. I'll just give you the answer.

    You are absolutely wrong, and here's why:

    According to Scouts over the last 9 years the mid-majors class rankings are:

    1. BYU 46.67
    2. Utah 68.22
    3. TCU 70.78
    4. Boise 72.11

    So, that research shows it is BYU who has the best recruits. Hold it gets better...

    NFL talent drafted over the same period:

    1. Utah 27
    2. TCU 24
    2. BYU 20
    4. Boise 12


    So if that trend continues look for Boise to struggle in the MWC. Why?

    Because the ability to develop NFL talent Boise is on par with Washington State while Utah is on par with Oregon.

  • BSU BRONCO!!
    Aug. 16, 2010 12:34 a.m.

    Andrew Marksen why dont you do some homework before you make a comment like BSU cannot erase 50 years of mediocre basement dwelling with a handful of good years no matter what the slobbering sycophantic media writes. How has Boise been a basement dweller they have only been a 1A program for 12 years and have dominated 10 of them. They also were very succesful as a 1AA team and a Junior College before that so get your facts strait. And about your big and bad SEC Urban Myer and the rest of the SEC wanted nothing to do with BSU or TCU even during the BCS seclection show last year Fox made the statement that the big boys can breathe a sigh of releief that they dont have to play TCU or Boise. Both of those team would have beatean Florida or Bama last year and will do it again this year. Also its a known fact that the so called big boys wont play Boise. I wonder why!!

  • BSU BRONCO!!
    Aug. 16, 2010 12:14 a.m.

    Goutah What are you talking about? To all you Yewte fans I hope you enjoy your last season in the MWC because this will be your last .500 season the school will have in any sport! Enjoy your time in the Pac 12 being a bottom feeder. Rose bowl! Thats a joke maybe you will be in the Las Vegas bowl once every 4 to 5 years, that is if you can win enough to become bowl eligable!

  • Andy Tomasso
    Aug. 15, 2010 11:51 p.m.

    Goutah, you will never be in a NC game. utah will be right there with the arizona schools. when you go back to the mediocrity you once was, you won't even fill that high school stadium you have on the hill. but you do have that hope that one day you might get to that rose bowl. but never a NC.

  • Andrew J. Marksen
    Aug. 15, 2010 10:14 p.m.

    I have season tickets to Utah and BYU but in the spirit of full disclosure I am an SEC snob. The reality is BSU will never get a title shot over a one loss SEC team. Why? The SEC teams have at least 6 tough games a year not the traditional one or two (in an odd year) that BSU plays. I hope the Utes do well along with the Cougars because I live in Utah but BSU cannot erase 50 years of mediocre basement dwelling with a handful of good years no matter what the slobbering sycophantic media writes. SEC fans tend to be arrogant because we can be. BSU fan has gone past arrogant straight to obnoxious far worse than any Cougar fan. I still wonder why Boise is even in the Utah flagship paper. They are not relevant to anything. By the way for the record the MWC needs TCU in the title game not BSU but the media wont slobber over any Texas team but UT.

  • GoUtah
    Aug. 15, 2010 9:43 p.m.

    @chuckie (nice name)

    I have to admit that once you're in and QA, life is pretty good. I understand, though, what you're talking about.

    It's got to be pretty tough being on the outside looking in. I'll do my best to describe just how truly great it is to go to the Rose Bowl and on to the NC if you'll keep me posted on your consistent losses to TCU, BSU and any other team that's any good. Deal?

    Last question: Since the tds is a "mid-major" your *NC must be a mid-major *NC.

    Big brother who graduated, Utah, will get the state a TRUE National Championship!


  • Andy Tomasso
    Aug. 15, 2010 9:23 p.m.

    Bsu bronco, its real easy to be a boise state fan, there isn't anything else. your either a bronco's fan, or a fan of potatoes.

  • BSU BRONCO!!
    Aug. 15, 2010 8:50 p.m.

    I know it must be hard for all of you Ute and Cougar fans to see BSU getting more Natinal love and respecte then any of your schools have ever gotten! And what only in its 12 year of being a 1A team. Get use to it BSU is that good as we have proved time and again against big time schools. Oregon, Oklahoma, and the best team ever to come out of the high and mighty MWC TCU. We will own the MWC just like we have the WAC I gaurantee it. We have better recruits and a better coaching staff then any team in the MWC as we have proved when we destroyed Coach Witt and his slow untalanted players and out coached the best coach in your conference in Patterson.

    A couple more points #1 to Idaho Cougar I lived in Utah and could not stand how aragont BYU and Utah fans were so dont even go off on how bad BSU fans in Idaho are. And #2 To COUGARNATE yeah the Cougars arnt the same team however neither is BSU we have a heck of a stronger program now then we did in 03 and 04!

  • Cougar Claws
    Aug. 15, 2010 8:25 p.m.

    BYU fans who aren't pulling for Boise State this year just don't understand. Boise State needs to win the NC this year or it will never happen under this system for non-AQ teams, that includes us guys. Honestly, with them being this high in the polls and if they go undefeated and they aren't selected, unfortunately that's bad news for us fellow BYU fans, unless we go to an automatic qualifying conference.

    Like it or not, we need Boise to win it all this year for us.

  • COUGARNATE
    Aug. 15, 2010 8:20 p.m.

    Ok boise blue nice wins against a 4-8 team in 2003 and a 5-7 team in 2004, because our kicker missed a chip shot field goal. BYU went up and down the field on the broncos in 2004. This is not the same team the donkeys beat in '03&'04. I am not saying bsy isn't good they are, but BYU has finished in the top 25 in each of the last four years. Pretty good if you ask me. I know bsu has done the same too. I can't wait for the rivalry with the donkeys to start. If the conference follows through with what they plan the first game against bsu will be in Provo in the last week of November. It will be a cougar victory!!! GO COUGS!!!!!

  • MiP
    Aug. 15, 2010 8:11 p.m.

    So, here I am in the middle of Iowa and I go to the sports equipment store and what is it I see in the college section (aside from copious Hawkeye stuff)? Tons of Boise State gear! Hats, t-shirts, etc.

    Seriously?

    Boise state, as a program, is for real. It is not inconcievable that they could go to the NC game.

    As far as WAC vs MWC: they are indeed very similar when you consider the top to the bottom. But similar doesn't mean equate.

    And, as close as they are, Boise state realizes that they need some increase in competition at the higher levels: TCU, Utah, and BYU over Hawaii, Fresno, and Nevada. It has been said that BSU only needs to "get up" for one or two games a year. The move changes that.

    Plus, if the conferences were equal, Boise wouldn't have moved.

    Oh, and Big Blue, how have your Rodriguez boys been lately? Misery really loves company, eh?

  • Go Big Blue!!!
    Aug. 15, 2010 7:27 p.m.

    Can't wait for BSU, UofU and y to make their first stumble of the season. None of them should be mentioned in the same sentence as "National Title Game".

  • IdahoCougarFan
    Aug. 15, 2010 6:57 p.m.

    I am tired of comments from people like "IBleedBlue" especially in our local paper. I am one who hopes VT wipes out BSU or barely beats them just to embarrass the smurf fans so they remember what a loss feels like. It has been a long time since they have lost a game and their heads are getting full of hot air!!! Since VT is the underdog and BSU is favored to win,it would be great to see David beat Goliath, which is BSU's trademark. I am a fan who prefers Utah schools over BSU anyday!!!Oh yeah, go Virginia Tech!!!

  • hedgehog
    Aug. 15, 2010 6:25 p.m.

    It warms the heart to have BSU stepping up and keeping the "pimp hand strong". As a Ute fan, it's important we leave our house in order and BSU sounds as if they have the mental and physical prowess to keep the zoobs a second tier Mid Major program.

    Good luck BSU - make the Utes proud!

  • Boom
    Aug. 15, 2010 5:31 p.m.

    Must be a slow day in Salt Lake if their paper is even discussing potato zoobs.

    Who cares?

  • Alpine Blue
    Aug. 15, 2010 4:48 p.m.

    On behalf of all mid-major powers to include Utah, BYU, TCU, et al I really hope that Boise State handily beats VTech in a couple of weeks and subsequently runs the table straight into the BCS championship game. A Boise victory would do more to destroy the BCS monopoly than any other scenario.

    For this season at least and until they join the MWC and start playing BYU next season, I AM a Boise State Bronco fan!!

    Go Broncos (and Cougs)!!

  • I Bleed Blue (Boise Blue)
    Aug. 15, 2010 4:24 p.m.

    B's momma,

    I don't know about us being "the real university of Utah", but I do know that we will be opening a can of whoop on BYU starting next year. A little reminder, you have never beaten us. We are 2-0 against you and another reminder, you have never been to a BCS Bowl.

    We will dominate the MWC just like we have dominated you every single time we have met. There's a new sheriff in the MWC and have fun playing third fiddle to us and TCU! Let the rivarly begin!

  • Chris B's momma
    Aug. 15, 2010 3:52 p.m.

    Yeah, BSU the real university of Utah!

  • Just Truth
    Aug. 15, 2010 3:17 p.m.

    I'm glad Hedgehog is a proud member of the "conference of Champions," the MWC, which is the Utes conference this year.

    Winning a National Championship will always be a problem for Utah though.

  • RSL1
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:47 p.m.

    I think the MWC should declare the winner of the Las Vegas bowl the national champion. Why not? The way it is done now is a joke. Why is the winner of a random BCS game the national champion? They are really only the champion of a single bowl game. Just like the winner of the Las Vegas bowl.

    "Winning" a national football championship is a lot like "winning" a North Korean election. It sort of looks like the real thing but isn't even close.

  • hedgehog
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:43 p.m.

    As a Utah fan and proud member of the "conference of Champions" all I can say is...

    Not my problem.

  • chuckie
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:32 p.m.

    Otis Spurlock | 9:43 a.m. Aug. 15, 2010
    "In the past, I thought the BCS was bad, but as an official member of the PAC 12 I now love the BCS!"

    It's nice to see someone with a sense of values and convictions.

    Personally, I'd love to see BSU get the NC, followed by the U of U astrisk, and Otis' declaration that BSU accidently backed into it.

    Plus, it would help the MWC become an AQ conference. It's stronger than the PAC as it sits right now in football and basketball (just not as many televisions), has National television exposure, and in 2015 could negotiate for a decent TV package.

  • Alpine Blue
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:26 p.m.

    On behalf of all mid-major powers to include Utah, BYU, TCU, et al I really hope that Boise State handily beats VTech in a couple of weeks and subsequently runs the table straight into the BCS championship game. A Boise victory would do more to destroy the BCS monopoly than any other scenario.

    For this season at least and until they join the MWC and start playing BYU next season, I AM a Boise State Bronco fan!!

    Go Broncos (and Cougs)!!

  • Jack
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    Yes, we must give credit for strength of schedule to Alabama, who played Tennessee Chattanooga and other strong teams to preserve its winning season.......right. Then we must beat up on BSU for the same thing, meanwhile ignoring the FACT that none of the BCS schools will even consider playing BSU for fear that they will get whupped and lose their chance at a Bowl game. BSU beat TCU in one of the best bowl games on TV last year....when all the talking heads were touting TCU as the favorite.

    Let's let the season begin and see how it shakes out....

  • ProvoAggie
    Aug. 15, 2010 1:57 p.m.

    Boise is playing more than 1 tough game this year. Besides opening on the road at #6 ranked Virginia Tech, 2 weeks later they will take on #22 Oregon State (which also happens to be TCU's biggest game. So Boise State's 2nd biggest game is against the same team that TCU is playing for their big game this year and you criticize BSU for having an easier schedule? TCU also has Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado State, UNLV, and San Diego State.

  • Andrew J. Marksen
    Aug. 15, 2010 12:58 p.m.

    Credit for BSU? Credit for what exactly? Well let’s see. BSU gets credit for playing ONE tough game a year and having the national media slobber and fawn all over them. BSU get credit for having one of the weakest schedules ever and getting an over inflated ranking. They get credit for being the BCS tool to avoid a potential lawsuit. BSU gets credit for favoritism by elitist schools desperate for legitimacy. There you go, plenty or credit. Sad that it is credit due for all the wrong things.

  • Jimmy James
    Aug. 15, 2010 12:32 p.m.

    I agree with Rock for the most part, but, there needs to be a huge addendum to his article:

    For the BCS to save face, it needs Boise State to go to a title game, and then...

    GET CRUSHED by the opposition. Get beaten so thoroughly that it leaves no doubt in the minds of Americans that indeed BCS teams are of a higher caliber than "mid-major" teams. If that happens, then the BCS can breathe a sigh of relief.

    However, if Boise State goes to the title game and wins, a huge step will have been taken towards dismantling the monopoly that is the BCS. From then on, it will be pretty hard to argue that mid-majors can't compete, and everyone in the nation will know it.

    Given that the second scenario is more likely than the BCS would like to admit, I don't see Boise State getting a shot at the title game. The BCS would just have too much to lose by doing so.

  • Cougar Claws
    Aug. 15, 2010 12:14 p.m.

    I'm a BYU fan but I'm pulling harder than ever for Boise State to go to the national championship. Who cares that they play a weak schedule this year? First off that's out of their hands to an extent. Second of all, they've already proven that they belong in that game. They return 21 starters from a team that beat TCU, which TCU team humiliated both BYU and Utah last year. I think TCU would have won the national championship last year if given the chance IMO. If they don't go undefeated this year then they'll cheat themselves out of a national championship, but if they run the table this year then there is no question in my mind that they deserve a chance. The players are all back, and they are just high enough in the preseason polls to have a chance. I'd like to see Alabama loose (to finally unseat the SEC), and see the Broncos play Ohio State and beat them for an NC victory! Not that I'm a Broncos fan, but this is about a Non-AQ team winning it all to show the farce the BCS is.

  • Elk1970
    Aug. 15, 2010 10:26 a.m.

    UteVegas - you either forget or fail to recognize that neither BYU nor TCU have won BCS games and BYU has not played in a BCS game. Moreover, BSU handily beat TCU. Give BSU its rightly deserved credit.

  • What in Tucket?
    Aug. 15, 2010 9:46 a.m.

    Maybe we should wait to see how Boise does this year before prattling on.

  • Otis Spurlock
    Aug. 15, 2010 9:43 a.m.

    In the past, I thought the BCS was bad, but as an official member of the PAC 12 I now love the BCS!

  • Duckhunter
    Aug. 15, 2010 9:17 a.m.

    The problem with the bcs is not that they do not want to include the conferences that they ocnsider lesser into their bowls. I actually agree with them that those are their bowls that they built and that they have tradition with.

    The problem is that they have tried to make "their" bowls and "their" system the decider for the national championship. That is what they have no right to do, they have no right to make a claim on the title of national champion for their exclusive use and for them to decide.

    When BYU won the National Championship these guys had no control over it although one of theirs had always won it. That all changed with BYU's miraculous breakthrough and that is when these plans to co-opt the national championship for their personal whims were hatched.

    So yes it is about the money, but the truth is they always had more money so I find that no more than a secondary issue, it was about controlling who would be the national champion and keep it in their exclusive control.

    That is the problem with the bcs.

  • ProvoAggie
    Aug. 15, 2010 9:03 a.m.

    I don't understand why MWC fans have such a hard time giving the WAC any credit. The conferences are quite a bit more comparable then a lot think. Last year, no one gave Boise a chance at beating TCU. It was supposed to be a blow out but Boise took care of business. The WAC also has Nevada and Fresno State that have been historically good teams. They had some key injuries going into last year's bowl games that caused them to lose but that doesn't take away the fact that Nevada came closer than anyone else to beating Boise last year and on the smurf turf. Sure our local WAC school hasn't been that great but I'm sure they'd have no problem beating up on New Mexico. The MWC has some weak teams too and the conferences are actually fairly even with the MWC maybe being slightly better. You can't say that BYU or TCU have more of a right to the National Title game though when Boise beat TCU last year after TCU thrashed BYU. BYU will finish this season with a few losses as well.

  • Te Amo
    Aug. 15, 2010 9:02 a.m.

    BYU? The team who is singlehandedly responsible with the creation of the BCS.. You want to reward them for that!!!! Get real, their national championship year of 1984 when they played no one is funny enough to last forever. We dont need that kind of joke today.

  • Andrew J. Marksen
    Aug. 15, 2010 8:38 a.m.

    BSU plays the 90th toughest schedule in the country and should be in the title game? Utah goes undefeated, beats Alabama, and can't get the time of day? BSU plays one tough game a year and is a national media darling while TCU and BYU play 3 or 4 tough games a year and gets spit on. While I really do not care one way or the other I find BCS hypocrisy and BSU ignorance laughable. BSU is quite clearly a tool of the BCS being used to legitimatize a flawed and illegal system promulgated by the football elitist who wants to have their cake and eat it to. On a side note now that BSU is in the MWC I guess the Des News has assumed that anything that happens in central Idaho is worthy of even being in the flagship newspaper of Utah or perhaps it is another example of the slobbering love affair by the Utah sports media. Why is this article even relevant to the state of Utah?

  • utwingnut
    Aug. 15, 2010 8:17 a.m.

    RE: SportzFan | 2:41 a.m. Aug. 15, 2010

    I’m in SEC country right now and just from listening to the radio driving to and from work, the locals here in Alabama are just as frustrated with the BCS as we are. However, the five points you posted are very valid.

    - Those "other" schools are inherently inferior.
    - "They" don't have the "necessities" to compete.
    - "They" don't have the "tradition."
    - "We" are inherently superior.
    _ "We" will take care of "them" by throwing "them" the occasional bone.

  • UteVegas
    Aug. 15, 2010 4:53 a.m.

    As a local writer I would think Brad Rock should have entitled the article to include TCU or BYU. Either of those teams if they run the table will assuredly have a more difficult schedule than BSU. I agree BSU had done great things with their program, but it doesnt hurt playing in the WAC where nearly every game is a gimme. In many ways I would hate to see BSU in the championship game given their poor strength of schedule. Would rather see TCU or BYU, as they would be more deserving if they ran the table IMO.

  • LMBCougarFan!
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:58 a.m.

    I get that you want to appeal to the local reader but since when do the people running the BCS really care if they are seen as popular or credible to the majority of college football fans? It has never been popular or seen as credible by fans but they've only made one minor change. Many people thought they would add the "plus one" model last year and despite the ever-worsening popularity of the BCS, no changes were made. Disappointing article.

  • LMBCougarFan!
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:58 a.m.

    I get that you want to appeal to the local reader but since when do the people running the BCS really care if they are seen as popular or credible to the majority of college football fans? It has never been popular or seen as credible by fans but they've only made one minor change. Many people thought they would add the "plus one" model last year and despite the ever-worsening popularity of the BCS, no changes were made. Disappointing article.

  • SportzFan
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:41 a.m.

    It is not coincidental that the BCS is most popular "in the southeastern United States." It has the same underlying thinking as slavery:

    - Those "other" schools are inherently inferior.
    - "They" don't have the "necessities" to compete.
    - "They" don't have the "tradition."
    - "We" are inherently superior.
    _ "We" will take care of "them" by throwing "them" the occasional bone.

  • AZJazzFan
    Aug. 15, 2010 2:18 a.m.

    The BCS has to go! Congress needs to step in and break it up. It is amazing what BSU is doing.

  • UtahRoper
    Aug. 15, 2010 12:08 a.m.

    Well, I quess I'm now a Smurf fan. Sorry Utah, can't root for you this year. But once your in the Pac 12, I'll be back!