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Published: Saturday, Aug. 14 2010 12:30 a.m. MDT

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acrolight12

While I see your point of the article I don't feel it was appropriate to stereotyped LA as "gang-ridden". Even if compared to LA, Provo is squeaky clean, I don't feel it was necessary in this article.

brmose

The NCAA should reason that the studant athlete transfered, not because of the sanctions but rather because of the things that brought about the sanctions. The NCAA didn't think that what was going on at USC was right and nither did Kaveinga. He should not be punished because it didn't take him an additional 5 months to announce his decision.

Howard S.


Kaveinga knew the rules at the time he transferred. So did BYU.

If he thought sanctions were coming to USC he could have continued to prepare for the season like everyone else and then transfer, if he chose, after the facts of the sanctions were known.

Instead he wanted special treatment.

He and BYU should abide by the rules as of the time of the transfer and stop seeking special treatment.

Quince Orchard

Logic says the NCAA should be following the spirit of the law; but when has the NCAA ever followed logic.

The NCAA is always looking for more money, but the NCAA gives control of biggest money-making sport in college sports to a bunch of bright-colored jacket wearing heads of local chambers of commerce.

Flashback

Acrolight12-Grow up for Pete's sake.

daddman

Just Homer Harmon doing his thing.... you shouldn't expect anything else from him.

Otis Spurlock

BYU's Honor Code is very specific and particular about the length of your hair, clothing that you can wear, etc.

Now, when BYU wants to bend the rules, they plead "spirit of the law"? How hypocritical is that? I guess you can do what you want when you claim you are the Lord's University.

ConferenceofChampions

"Gang Ridden Los Angeles" I love it Dick. Typical provo "living in the bubble" mentality. Out of the entire population of LA, how many people belong to gangs? Lots of gang member teammates down there at USC? I know for myself, every time I take the kids to California, Im constantly looking over my shoulder.

utwingnut

RE: Howard S. | 7:55 a.m. Aug. 14, 2010

"He and BYU should abide by the rules as of the time of the transfer and stop seeking special treatment."

He and BYU are abiding by the rules. There is nothing unethical nor immoral about appealing the current ruling.


utwingnut

RE: Otis Spurlock | 9:01 a.m. Aug. 14, 2010

BYU is not trying to bend the rules. Even within the honor code system, there is an appeal process. There is not hypocrisy here.

Rise & Shout!!

TRUTH

There are whole communities the size of Provo in gangs....give me a break? The use of this term is appropriate......just like calimexico is relevant too!

Lets hope the NCAA can see what a cheating mess the Pac 10 is in and grant this young man the opportunity toplay the game he trains so hard for......

Go Cougs!

Oldguy

If Kaveinga is allowed to play this year, it would be an injustice to multitudes of college players who wish they could transfer for any number of very good reasons (perhaps some find BYU's bizarre rules harsher than they expected). The point is, many athletes find themselves in 'uncomfortable' circumstances and are denied transfers by the rules. The fact that they may be right about how bad things are at their chosen school has never been sufficient justification. BYU wants a major exception, then plays (or at least implies) the "discrimination card" when they don't get it. This is a time-honored ploy in Provo.

Idaho Coug

Yes, the "gang-ridden LA" description was a little dramatic. But there is no doubt that USC is not in the best section of town. I regularly work in LA very near USC. Walking north toward downtown and the area around the Lakers home is not bad but just south and east of USC and you are in some pretty gang-ridden areas. There is no question that a kid playing for UCLA feels a lot safer walking around off campus that one who plays for USC.

Howard S.


Let's be honest here.

The real reason Kaveinga transferred was because he was not going to get playing time at USC.

BYU needs linebackers so they are accommodating his charade by trying to take advantage of a transfer exemption that he does not qualify for.

utwingnut

RE: Howard S. | 10:35 a.m. Aug. 14, 2010

Sure, you might be right. However, there is nothing wrong with asking for the exception and putting the burden of decision making on the NCAA. I'm sure Utah would do the same thing.


Rise & Shout!!

utwingnut

RE: Howard S. | 10:35 a.m. Aug. 14, 2010

"BYU needs linebackers so they are accommodating his charade by trying to take advantage of a transfer exemption that he does not qualify for."

1) Not true, BYU has plenty of good Linebackers.

2) Until the appeal process has been fully exhausted, nobody really knows that he does not qualify. There is an appeal process for a reason.


Rise & Shout!!

Otis Spurlock

Gang ridden LA? Has Mr. Harmon ever been to West Valley?

Is it any wonder the PAC 12 schools view BYU as completely isolated and out of touch with the real world?

With this attitude, I think BYU has a long way to go before any elite BCS Conference invites them.

Archie

Bottom line...

"The rule was instigated to discourage players from transferring en masse from one school to another, picking a flavor of the month, after financial commitments have been made."

Isn't this EXACTLY what Mendenhall was all bent out of shape over earlier this year when a committed to the Cougars (Kona)? Mendenhall rescinded the scholarship offer because the kid looked at another program.

Now the tables are turned and Mendenhall is desperately trying to help a kid transfer INTO his program contrary to established NCAA rules. Mendenhall does not know the meaning of the word integrity, or at least to him it means using standards in such a way that he will always benefit. What a class act.

Howard S.


Re: Archie | 11:09 a.m.

Amen, exactly right.

Buster

ConferenceofChampions | 9:23 a.m.
"Gang Ridden Los Angeles" I love it Dick. Typical provo "living in the bubble" mentality. Out of the entire population of LA, how many people belong to gangs?"
"Otis Spurlock | 11:04 a.m. Aug. 14, 2010
Gang ridden LA? Has Mr. Harmon ever been to West Valley?"
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Roll with me to the campus. I have a few kids I know buried out there. No, it's not even West Valley. People out there get arrested for DWW...
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Howard S. | 10:35 a.m. Aug. 14, 2010

"Let's be honest here.
The real reason Kaveinga transferred was because he was not going to get playing time at USC."

As you are being honest here, you "KNOW" this how? Magic 8 ball speaking just to you...

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