Buster"Similarly, if BYU went undefeated this year, it could
actually get to a Rose Bowl before the Utes."bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!They can't even beat a lack
luster FSU team at home. Watch out for USU in Logan this year. bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
What you obviously don't understand, my young padawan, is that 1983 was a setup
year for BYU's 1984 National Championship.Teams rarily win college
football national championships starting from nothing the previous year.The reason Boise State and TCU are in the national championship
discussion this year, is because of what they did last year, and in the years
before.Until we have a major college football playoff, the national
championship, has, and always will be, based more on perception, than on actual
on-field results.Theoretically, ANY BCS conference team should be
able to win the national championship this year.In reality, teams
like Duke, Washington State, and Baylor have as much chance of winning the 2010
championship as New Mexico or San Jose State.The reason BYU won the
championship in 1984, was as much because of what BYU accomplished in 1979
through 1983, as it was for what BYU did in 1984.BYU two wins
against Top 20 teams, 11-1, and #7 finish, in 1983, established BYU's
credibility with the voters, despite what turned out to be a mediocre schedule
in 1984.BYU's 1984 #1 ranking in EVERY major poll proves that!
@BYU Student...I'm not a very good fan. Who wants to have the hard games
away? I want to beat Utah, FSU and AFA more than anyone else this year...Sound like you've already conceded the TCU game.
@Jealous UHey, "jealous of Utah" thanks for the laugh this morning!
There's a big difference bettween '83 and '84 rankings. NONE of the teams the
tds played in '84 finished ranked. Period! It's too funny that you see it that
way. Just like Oklahoma in '09. Big win for the tds against a
nobody. OK didn't finish the season ranked. Good job beating a team that was
way over ranked, just like your '84 tds team.You conveniently left
out Utah's '08 opponents' final ranking; beating two top 10 teams, 4 total top
25 ranked teams. The tds has NEVER had a season like that! Yes, the tds was
given the "beat nobody *NC," in '84, but certainly didn't earn it.
Well, it's August and BYU hasn't done squat yet. Actually, nobody has. I won't
have a real opinion of this team until they play their first game, where I'll be
waiting with baited breath to see if we can shut down Jake Locker. That man
terrifies me. So I'll venture a guess for the next 11-12 games after game 1 is
over.I'm not a lackadaisical freshman anymore, but my thought still
stands - BYU will not be 11-0 going into the Utah game this year, and Utah will
also not be 11-0. We can handle FSU, UW, AFA and others. But TCU? Nope. I don't
think it will.
@ BYU Student - don't know what to think of you, brother.@
ProudRedUtahAlum - did you really just imply that real game motivation for Utah
PLAYERS revolves around dollars and cents???? That we all should be grateful
the Utah decided to LOSE to TCU HORRIBLY so that we all could have a SHARE OF
THE BCS MONEY????BYU win all three of the big three road games plus
Washington? It could happen...Utah less than they were last year
beating TCU improved upon last year? Just don't see it.
Ah man, such a solid rivalry. You know what I would love and will never happen?
Two 11-0 teams facing each other in November, with BYU slapping the U out of the
conference. But, like I said, won't happen. Not with TCU, FSU and UW. We aren't
winning all three of those, guaranteed.What we have here are two
teams in rebuilding years. 2011 season will be a better taste. Oh well. I have
my tickets, and I'll be watching our easier games in the comfort of LES. I
remember when I was a lazy freshman, I'd show up to home games 30 minutes late,
find my seat and we'd be up 2 touchdowns over Wyoming or something. And then
last year it all came crashing down. At least this year we have a couple of our
stressful games on the road. Makes life a li'l smoother. I hate losing home
games. I hated leaving TCU last year. That was terrible.I'm not a
very good fan. Who wants to have the hard games away? I want to beat Utah, FSU
and AFA more than anyone else this year.
Not only did I watch the game, GoUtah, I was at the game. And the 1983 Holiday
Bowl. And the Miracle Bowl. And the 56-6 and 27-0 shellackings of Utah.BYU put the state of Utah on the college football map. By the time Utah first
cracked the AP poll in 1994, BYU had already won and National Championship, a
Heisman Trophy, and been ranked in the Top 25 in both polls TEN times.And while you're criticizing BYU's schedule in 1984, check out Utah's 2004
schedule. BYU actually played more teams with winning records in 1984, than Utah
did in 2004.BYU finished the 1984 season on a 24-game winning streak
that included wins at #13/#15 Air Force and at #17/#13 UCLA and a #7/#7 ranking
@Big_BenThanks for correcting the MMDS' (Mid-Major Down South)
stats. Jealous U is correct about '84. There's a good chance that he didn't
get to watch the game, however. I'm guessing it was played prior to his
birth?Most likely . . .
@Jealous UUtah has done twice in the past six years what the tds
hasn't been able to do for T W E N T Y S I X Y E A R S! Wow, that took
me a long time to type, maybe because it was SO long ago! So, I guess you've
"tanked" for the past 26 years! That's too bad!Utah has done more
for college football in the state of Utah in the past 6 years than what the tds
has done in it's entire existence including it's "so called" *NC.You
are correct, however. The tds did go undefeated against a bunch of unranked
nobody's in '84. Way to go.
actually Jealous U, the cotton bowl was in 1997, after the 1996 season. Your
point is the same, I just like to play "fact checker"anyway, @ DuckHuntertalk about an insecure person!
Actually, GoUtah, BYU had their chance at an undefeated season, and finished
with a National Championship.Utah blew their chance at playing for a
National Championship, by tanking after their 2004 BCS busting season. If the
Utes had done from 2004 to 2008, what BYU did from 1980 to 1984, Utah could very
well have been playing for a National Championship in 2008.The only
reason Utah fans complain about BYU fans talking about the 90's and 80's and
70's is because Utah fans have nothing worth talking about before 2004, in
football.Switch sports, to basketball, however, and Utah fans will
instantly start talking about 1998.BYU's Cotton Bowl win in 1998.
Ancient history.Utah's NCAA championship game in 1998. Like
yesterday.BYU's Cotton Bowl game, btw, was played in 1999, nine
months AFTER Utah's NCAA championship game.
it would be funny if both teams lost to wyoming, or something, I love the
preseason and how people think its so easy to go to a bcs bowl, I know boise
makes it look easy, but BYU hasnt even come close ever.
Ahhhhh, he called us tds (the Touch Down School).
The tds and Rose Bowl is an oxymoron . . . Thanks for the laugh, though. "If
the tds runs the table . . ." That will be tough with their 0-3 start this
year. No, the tds had their chance at an undefeated season and blew
it! They'll need to keep bragging about their big stadium and old *NC. The only way tds fans enjoy the Rose Bowl is from their seat in front of
the TV watching UTAH!
for the belly laugh, that was spectacularly funny. Funniest thing I have ever
read on these boards. LOL
BYU lucked out in their win over Utah last year. Hope they had fun at the Vegas
Bowl. They didn't roll snake eyes at Vegas.
@Kyle loves BYU/Jazz: I don't agree. I think Utah has a very good chance of
beating TCU at RES this year. First of all, the Utes haven't lost in RES for
quite a while (I think the last loss was to BYU). Second, Utah is going to be
HIGHLY MOTIVATED to clobber TCU this year, even if it means the MWC losses BCS
bowl revenue (assuming that TCU was undefeated to that point). Last season, if
the Utes had beaten TCU in Ft. Worth, the entire MWC would have lost the BCS
bowl revenue from TCU's Fiesta Bowl. With Utah's move to the Pac-12 (I love the
sound of that), the Utes are not going to care as much about a single short term
payday from another TCU trip to a BCS bowl. Even if Utah goes in the game with
a loss and TCU has none, I still think the Utes would be motivated to make one
last statement before leaving the MWC. The Utes ARE going to be ready for TCU.
It will be great to get into a BCS-AQ conference and not have to worry about
Lets face it the odds of Utah or BYU beating TCU aren't very goood, let alone
beating every other team on their schedules.If anyone is going to
the Rose Bowl it would be BSU or TCU, if those two teams don't make it to the NC
game. I don't see Oregon or any other PAC 10 team being better than TCU or BSU.
love the comment about dennis rodman.
Actually, BYU will NOT be going to the Rose Bowl, even if the champ of the
Pac-10 or Big-10 end up in the BCS game. What is really going to happen is the
Utes are going to 'totally' dominate all their opponents this year (including a
40+ point victory over Notre Dame on national T.V.). With every top ranked team
losing at least one game, the Utes will make it into the BCS championship game.
Of course, a another undefeated season by the Utes implies that BYU doesn't have
a 'perfect' record and, at best, will be heading for Las Vegas again. If the
Pac-10 or Big-10 champs do go to the BCS game, odds are an undefeated Boise
State will go to the Rose Bowl, which I don't think the Utes will mind under
these circumstances. I know what you're thinking, but this scenario is every
bit as plausible as BYU going to the Rose Bowl, probably more plausible...
"So if, say, Oregon played in the BCS title game, Boise State lost and Utah ran
the table ..."Sorry, I had to pick myself off the floor from
laughing...If the Chronie ran this stuff, the editor would pull
it.And if all the NFL teams had flat tires, Utah would win the
BYU playing in the Rose Bowl in 2011 while Utah was playing in the Las
Vegas Bowl would be sweet for Cougar fans, but would lead to muss hysteria up on
A lot of you folks need to live outside the influence of the U of U and BYU and
read in the cold harsh light of dawn what you write.Leno at his best
never was this funny...take "funny" however you will.
Hummmm. Wouldn't it be nice if BYU made it to the Rose Bowl this year? Good luck
to both teams from the state of Utah.
re: MY UTEUmmmm okay. I believe this is what I wrote:"BYU fans, we have to be less sensitive about everything, whether it comes to
our sports or our religion."Where did I mention that we were God's
team? And when did I enter the mindless "we're better than you" dispute? I just
said we need to be less sensitive about it. Looks like someone needs to get off
their high "hill"...
Dear Rock-on,Let me finish for you...Both Utah and BYU are
unbeaten going into their Nov game. Utah is ranked 4th. BYU is ranked 5th. Utah
beats BYU 35-14. Afterward, Utah is ranked 2nd. BYU is ranked 9th. Utah goes to
Pasadena. BYU goes to Las Vegas. Hello Rose Bowl!!!Welcome to
re: brluthi"whether it comes to our sports or our religion"?Wow. You need to go take a cold shower, a reality pill, or just plain
get out of happy valley. The last time I checked, it appears that
God's team is up North with 2 BCS trophies displayed in the case.
RE: brluthiOkay okay so I read Otis Spurlock's comment again and it
looks like another Ute fan mocking the Cougars. Ha. I think you threw me off
because you actually did sound like a "loyal" Cougar fan lol. I
stand by what I said, though. True blue Cougar fans are willing to take hits and
don't need everyone to love their team to get over their insecurities. Yes, we
hype our team too much sometimes. Yes, they disappoint regularly. Every team
does that, even the Utes. Getting angry at your team is sometimes good to help
you realize that it's just a game and there are more important things.
RE: Otis SpurlockWhoa there. Just because we were hated at one time
doesn't mean we need to lash out. Take off the sensitive sweater. It's okay. The last article I saw that was either positive or negative about BYU
was one entitled "Latest haul brings BYU that much closer to elite recruiting
status." Darn those liberals to heck!BYU fans, we have to be less
sensitive about everything, whether it comes to our sports or our religion. Some
people just don't like us. We need to accept it and act like grown-ups.
“if. . . Boise State lost and Utah ran the table” If BSU and Utah
both go undefeated, I have a hard time believing that Utah wouldn’t jump
BSU in the polls, BSU’s last nine game are a joke and are not even worth
watching and Utah’s last 5 games include AF, TCU, ND, and BYU.But Utah has to beat Pitt first and at Iowa State could be a tough game too.
Utah’s schedule is good enough to get them into a national championship
game. BSU’s schedule however, is probably the most boring in collage
football after their opening game. In the unlikely scenario that
situation plays out we’ll see definitively if it’s more important to
start strong or finish strong.
I guess Brad has forgotten how it works with the press. As I understand it Liz
Able provides one credential to each press outlet, which Kyle Gunther was using.
Therefore Jan was trying to get into somewhere he didn't really belong.
BYU is not hated at all. Sports Illustrated has that eastern liberal media bias
and can't be trusted. Nobody hates BYU and the fans' attitude. Everyone
acknowledges and agrees with BYU that they are so awesome, righteous and yet, so
humble.If there is any hate it is from all of the football teams
that wish they could join the MWC. It's all sour grapes.
@ Y Grad/ Y DadWait a minute, I dont remember anyone on our side
saying that they "hated" BYU this year. (Yes, I know you are tripping over
yourself trying to tell me about Smith and Scalley, save it) Pot......meet
kettle! @IMHOamen to that. rarely do I laugh at Rock's
stuff, but that is a good one.
I think the SI label of BYU as the most hated football team (at one time) is a
little mis-leading. The hate from fans of the Team Up North is so intense,
undilluted and focused that it skews the national average.
You got the facts wrong. Whittingham DIDN'T eject Jan Jorgenson, Liz Abel, the
assistant AD did. She said that she made an executive call, since Coach Whit was
busy (as he should be) with coaching.Coach Whit is, as he should be,
focused on having a very successful season. For those TDS fans who were
"offended" at this action, hate on Liz Abel (who has recently obtained hero
status to Ute fans...).
" Rodman was reported to be 'stable,' which I believe is a first."That's funny right there. I don't care who you are, that's funny.