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Published: Friday, July 30 2010 4:10 p.m. MDT

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Captain L

I'm not sure how I feel about M.James, I know he is a proven player but I'm not sure if he would want to shoot too much. If he would not look to shoot too much and just run the offense and facilitate for others I would be all for him coming to the Jazz. He has good size,& toughness, I just haven't watched him that much.

Sokol

Big Al and Deron....People know that the Jazz are
now a real contender and want to hop on board....I am very happy with this team and their future.

Bugoff

No offense to James but Gaines and Price are better players based on WP48. James has 3 years of negative WP48s.

The Jazz need Price to concentrate on acting like a real PG. Which he is fully capable of and which he does about every 5th game. Or they need to give the keys to Gaines.

If one of them is not running the team well enough, make a change before the trade deadline with Maynor or Brewer's TPE which are going to expire anyway.

There are plenty of players on bad teams who want to join the Jazz. Big Baby begged last year and he is on the Celtics. So there are good players or good teams who want to come.

Captain L

I think that wp48 you mentioned is truely relavant with James, from what I can remember he is a volume shooter as a point/combo guard and that is why he has been on 9 teams in 9 years.

MenaceToSociety

Nobody wants to play in Utah! Waaaaaaa!

Wait a second...

jazzbball

He is definitely better that Gaines. You can't be serious bugoff...

Rational

Bugoff | 5:37 p.m. July 30, 2010
No offense to James but Gaines and Price are better players based on WP48. James has 3 years of negative WP4
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"Ah, statistics! We can make them go up. We can make them go down."
Ho Chi Minh

How can a player on a lousy team have a positive WO48 when there are no wins to contribute to?

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The Jazz don't need a 6'2" combo guard.

Rational

Bugoff | 5:37 p.m. July 30, 2010
No offense to James but Gaines and Price are better players based on WP48. James has 3 years of negative WP48
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"Ah, statistics! We can make them go up. We can make them go down."
Ho Chi Minh

How can a player on a lousy team have a positive WO48 when there are no wins to contribute to?

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The Jazz don't need a 6'2" combo guard.

SportzFan

Bugoff | 5:37 p.m. July 30, 2010
No offense to James but Gaines and Price are better players based on WP48. James has 3 years of negative WP48
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"Ah, statistics! We can make them go up. We can make them go down."
North Vietnameese General
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How can a player on a lousy team have a positive WO48 when there are no wins to contribute to?

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The Jazz don't need a 6'2" combo guard.

Bugoff

How can a player on a lousy team have a positive WP48?

It is simple, score efficiently, rebound, don't turn the ball over, steal, block, assist and don't make dumb fouls.

WP48

Love .349
Miller .219
Haywood .200
Iguodala .205
Lee .275
Paul .339
Randolph .232
Camby (LAC) .426
Biedrins .205
Wallace.326

Raw WP48 tend to reward shooting efficiency and rebounding. However Chris Paul has a great WP48. Wallace also does well.

There are other overall measures of player performance but they tend to reinforce (usually but not always) WP48.

I used it a a quick and dirty screen. If I wanted to spend the time it could be used to pin point the weaknesses in James game.

Now you are right you can make stats go up and down IF you design the right biases into the data before you gather it. However, WP48 is applied to the data as the player causes it each game.

Like I said the version I reported is biased in favor of efficient shooters and rebounders.

Comparing Price, Gaines and James is fair as they are all guards and suffer from the same biases equally.

The "A"

Bugoff; You really need to get a life, seriously, nobody cares about your stupid WP48. Sounds like the world war I plane Snoopy might have flown!!!

Fan 1965

I agree: your stats mean nothing to most of us.The article hits home, because other veteran players are recognizing a good franchise. Get a life dude !!

Rick

Just saw that the other day Barnes signed with the Lakers ! If Utah had signed him for next to nothing like the lakers did, Utah would have contended for the W.C.F. against the lakers & not gone out either 4 to 1 or 4 to 0 like the past 2 years....How in the world can Utah not have signed this guy who puts the scare of death into kobe..Did anybody see Orlando's games vrs. la last season..Barnes was all over & in kobe's face getting in his head.THIS WAS A HUGE MISTAKE BY UTAH MANAGEMENT NOT TO MAKE THE TEAM MUCH TUFFER AT A DISCOUNT PRICE !!! 100% , LA WILL RUN AWAY WITH THE WEST & GET TO THE FINALS AGAIN WITH NO TROUBLE WHAT SO EVER !!! Utah might bring in James (who ? ), when they could have made an offer to Barnes -- get real ! EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED.............

SportzFan

Rick,

Do you really think Barnes would give Utah the discount he gave LA? LA has:

Better beaches
More endorsements
More rings

How do you know they didn't pursue him?

PS. Learn how to work the caps keys.

ed

Rick-
You left out more chicks.

G-Swenz

I never realized that spelling could be so "TUFF"

Jazz-Nation

The Jazz dont need a guy that is only 6'2 and 35 years old. Unless he wants to go into coaching. The Jazz need another Small Forward 6'6-6'9 range. I know we drafted guys that fit that profile, but if you are hellbent on bringing in a veteran, make sure the veteran has some length and can knock down jumpers. If the Jazz want to add another veteran shooting guard, there are better guys available. Mike Finely over Mike James any day of the week.

Jazz-Nation

Pass on James. For the same price pick up Shannon Brown. Strong combo guard with championship resume with Lakers.


Jazzman72

It sounds like he's an older version of Price, so no thanks. What they need is a decent passer and shooter. Linx, cj and Hayward are decent ball handlers in a pinch as well.

bloggy

Mike James would rather play in Utah than in Italy or Greece.

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