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Thompson is sure a "traditionalist". He didn't seem to care when they were bringing TCU on board and getting the Dallas market and pulling TCU from its traditional rivaliries.
I find it interesting that BYU didn't care about a long time rivalery when they formed the WAC and the long time game with Urah State became less important, so why should we except the Utes care about playing the Y when in a few short years the game will be one where the Utes will have everything to lose and nothing to gain when playing the Y, it will be fun to see how it will all turn out.
Thompson says the MWC is done with expansion. Why not add Houston, get to ten teams, and bring in another school from Texas to partner with TCU?
I don't know that TCU really lost any "traditional rivalries" by coming into the MWC. They were in Conference USA before the MWC, and part of the WAC before that. I would argue that they lost their rivalries when the old Southwest Conference broke up.
I do not know how anybody in the Mountain West Conference could be mad at Utah for accepting an invitation to join the Pac-12 Conference. Any other Mountain West school, including BYU, would have done the same.
Memo to the rest of the Mountain West school's and Craig Thompson: If you guys could carry your own weight once in a while and actually do something, like win a BCS bowl game or advance past the first round of the NCAA Tournament, the Mountain West would have been in a much better situation.
But to criticize the University of Utah for "moving on up" is a joke and just goes to show the jealousy of Craig Thompson and the rest of the 8 Mountain West school's.
PAC 10 didn't expand with Utah and CU to "save face" Dick. Once again, your facts are not straight. It's been well documented that Utah and CU were talking to the PAC 10 for months if not years before the announcement was made. Texas only came into the conversation at the 11th hour. In the meantime,I hope you enjoy covering your beloved cougars and their mid major conference.
PAC 10 didn't expand with Utah and CU to "save face" Dick. Once again, your facts are not straight. It's been well documented that Utah and CU were talking to the PAC 10 for months if not years before the announcement was made. Texas only came into the conversation at the 11th hour. In the meantime,I hope you enjoy covering your beloved cougars and their mid major conference.
I don't think it has to. One of the biggest rivalries in college sports is Florida vs. Florida State. Also Miami vs. Florida State was huge before both were in the same conference. Georgia vs. Georgia Tech is huge. Notre Dame vs. Michigan is huge. There are plenty of great rivalries where schools aren't in the same conference. I mean Texas vs. OU was huge before they were implanted in the Big 12. Utah vs. BYU will continue to be huge!
I hope we continue to play the Y. I agree with 'eagle' that many other great schools have traditions outside of their conference. Notre Dame vs. USC, and Clemson vs. South Carolina, Air Force vs. Army and Notre Dame are other examples.
We better not run for the competition or we will look like cowards. Plus, I BYU whoopin is always fun to watch!
Utah does NOT want any part of CSU, Wyoming, or Air Force. That was part of why they left. BYU and Utah fans all know that the MWC is a joke. I do not blame any school for wanting out. Even if the MWC gained an automatic berth (highly questionable) in the BCS schools like TCU and BYU would bolt the MWC as soon as they could. In the interim I will enjoy my season tickets to both schools and enjoy big time college football in 2011 and beyond.
The PAC-12 is a TV championship series league (BCS). Of course, the MWC is jealous. But, as to the quality of the league. Seems the MWC beat two of their top teams in bowl games just last year. And, two years ago New Mexico beat Arizona and UNLV beat ASU, the last PAC-12 entrants. This is all much to do about nothing, except better cities for the media to hang out in. Media envy is over now, SLC media can now go to LA with the big boys. The U will be immediately competitive and have reaped the rewards for hard work. Others, also, have worked hard with not so much of an award. After all, BSU's prize is the MWC, and it has just as many BCS bowl wins as the U. Oh and Aggie Lover, why pick on the Y, the Utes won't maintain that rivalry either and they were the ones that didn't want the Aggies in the WAC.
Interesting how Thompson can lay it on pretty think regarding how the MWC is losing Utah to the PAC 12 and the tremendous impact that will have on the conference. Yet the MWC has done the exact same thing with an invite to Boise State to join the MWC.
I guess it's OK to break up a rivalry from another conference (WAC) if it makes your conference (MWC) better. But if you have to give up a team from your conference, it's like someone just died . . .
Thompson is SO hypocritical it's pathetic.
still cant figure it all out,but this is what i got so far, the utes went to the pac-10 to make washington state look better? I guess the pac ten was desperate. it was either them or nobody, They wanted texas, they were left with a utah TCU, and there is a big difference between texas and TCU, thats fine the mwc will be boise states league to lose in a year anyway.
I agree that you can't be mad at Utah for jumping. Given the current state of college football, they had to go. And it is good for nearly everything else the University does.
All of us must wish them well. And I think we all believe they will be successful.
But the rivalry is dead. It had gotten ugly anyway.
Everything will get overheated one more time and then maybe the schools can just go back to playing football. Wouldn't it be nice?
Honestly with USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Cal, Arizona on the schedule Utah doesn't need BYU.
And beyond that as a mid major BYU isn't deserving of a spot on Utah's schedule every year.
What other BCS team offers a game every year to a non-AQ team?
At most, I would say the game should be played every two years on a home and home basis.
Leave it to Utah to be one of the first to chase that greedy, addicting money. Some example...
Utah should go to the PAC12 and BYU would have if offered.
The problem is the attitude of the SNUTEs not the move.
However, if BYU can't win the MTN then being in the PAC12 was not going to help them much. It remains to be seen if Utah does any better than ASU or UA.
It is best for BYU to be in the MTN, win, and get it own TV rights like UT Austin and broadcast on it's own channel.
Striker:
We hate the BCS as much as anybody, but we think it's better to fight it from the inside, not the outside.
;)
Re: Howard S.
"And beyond that as a mid major BYU isn't deserving of a spot on Utah's schedule every year."
Oh BAARRFF, Can you say GAG ME?
It's this kind of absolute pompous arrogance that makes me hate the Utes, it's because of fans like you.
You think that just because Utah is in the PAC that they are all of a sudden on this royal level above BYU? Tell that to Arizona and Arizona State.
BYU and Utah are on a very equal level, PERIOD. BYU has done things Utah hasn't, Utah has done things BYU hasn't, both have played on fairly equal terms recently, and that's all there is to it. Nothing more, nothing less.
BYU is just as good of an opponent as most of Utah's future conference opponents.
Howard S.:
The BYU-Utah rivalry should go on every year. I am really not pro-BYU or pro-Utah but for Utah fans to think they are bigger than BYU (football AND total athletic program) is a bit absurd. Both are very comparable. In fact, I love the Utah vs. BYU rivalry, it has brought great game after great game the past 15 years, perhaps the best rivalry in teh country for close and entertaining games. This rivalry is big and should continue every year. I don't mind Ute fans being excited about the PAC-12 (though I feel it will be an overrated experience as the Utah total athletic dept. besides two or three sports isn't PAC-12 caliber) but I don't think they should think they are that much superior to BYU's athletic program or even academically. They are more similar in comparision then different...
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