Conservatives opposition to the ADA is a good example of why being a
conservative is not a good thing.
Yup. The extremist rightwingers that the GOP wants us to elect think the ADA is
socialism. Mike Lee and Sharton Angle are simply not mainstream.
Moosehead and others -- Not true. Most accommodations provided to allow people
with disabilities to work don't cost anything. If they do, of those, most cost
less than $500. That is returned to the employer in productivity, etc.Please, Everyone, get the facts before posting. If you knew how much people
with disabilities contribute to society and the economy, you would be amazed.Did you know that in 2005 there were more than 40 million Americans that
had a disability? They are the largest minority in the U.S. and the most
discriminated against, in particular those with mental illnesses. The ADA does
NOT provide preferential treatment to people with disabilities. It does,
however, provide a level playing field for them. The money spent provides a much
better return than any stock you can buy.
As someone who works solely with people with disabilities, for every dollar
spent on re-training or educating someone with a disability, there is a $5 - $20
return on investment in the form of taxes, personal money spent, etc. The ADA
helped pave the way and allow people with disabilities to become a part of
society, where they belong.
@ DN Subscriber: Please provide examples of abuse of the ADA and suggestions on
how to prevent such abuse.Thank you.(Because otherwise,
I call BS.)
MeanaceToSocietyFabulous LOL love it.I'm still trying
to think of how a drug abuser would abuse ADA.... I guess Drug Abusers should
walk across the road without the little flashy lights telling them when to
cross?? They should have to always walk up stairs if there in a wheelchair?Being a drug addict is not a protected status...so ADA would not fall
into play in one's job (your job is not protected via ADA if your a drug addict
and your seeking treatment).However I as just a mom of three kids
who have 2 of them in strollers...enjoy immensely that ADA allows us to be able
to get into the post office, or the grocery store without me having to get them
all out of the stroller..make them walk while I fold up the stroller and try and
squeeze it into the door.Everyone in the end...one way or another
will benefit from ADA. It's not a program it's a law...DN
Subscriber and all the Tea Party Zealots...it's a law you enjoy. Please quit
confusing Social Security Disability with ADA. Your ignorance is shining
I agree, DN Subscriber, we need to get rid of freeloaders. Like
people who have a ton of kids, but pay less in taxes than those who have no
kids. If you're going to have a ton of kids, you need to pay the true societal
costs for your choice, and not be a freeloader.What was that? You
did not mean THOSE freeloaders? You meant THE OTHER freeloaders that does not
include you? I apologize.
DN Subscriber:Obviously--your language choices display how informed
and educated you are about ADA.The appropriate (and legal) term is
people WITH a disability--NOT handicapped. Perhaps you
should READ the law before commenting about it.And yet again, let me
reiterate--the ADA is not a "program"--it is a CIVIL RIGHTS LAW! P.S. Abuses occur in every and any law passed. Yet, many people only focus on
those laws that are abused that actually benefit people who are DIFFERENT then
they are. I don't read you whining and complaining about the "drug abusers" and
other supposed "law-abiding" hypocrites (whom most of us likely are who read
this) who break the speed limit, or jaywalk. Changing laws just because there
are always people who abuse laws is not a justifiable reason to change a law!
Those who call the ADA liberal nonsense don't seem to realize that anyone can
become disabled at any time. A single car crash can change your life forever.
We're lucky to live in a society that has resources to help people adapt and
live independently when circumstances outside their control change their lives
I can't believe there are people on here saying that we should get rid of the
ADA! I hope you are all in a wheelchair one day and die alone in your homes,
Most of this law has been very good and beneficial. However, implementation has
sometimes been taken to the heights of absurdity.Some requirements
have created huge burdens that benefit no one, except a cadre of lawyers who
specialize in tort terrorism to collect money from businesses.Also,
the ADA has been used to justify supporting lazy drug abusers who have somehow
obtained "handicapped" status.The ADA is a poster child for a
government program that is well intentioned, and always sold on the basis of
really deserving people with real handicaps, but has unintended consequences
that never get fixed. Congress needs to go back and fix the flaws
to restore some common sense and kick out the freeloaders, so we can help the
There are thousands of people who are still trying to function as near normally
as possible when for some reason or another they have ended up in a wheelchair.
I have MS. Over the past several years my ability to walk has decreased until I
am now wheelchair-bound. It's hard to adjust to such disabilities when you have
previously been an active person. I am grateful for those things that some of
you are crabbing about that make it possible for me to function as well as I do.
You never know. . .you may be next.
Thank you Deseret News for a great article...and thank you to the tea party for
putting out your true colors in your comments.Give's me more ammo
when those in the tea party want to insist they are not racist/bigots or
discriminatory in nature.I'll be sure to remember this article when
you are trying to convince me to vote for you...
@ Moosehead: That would depend on how you identify the costs and benefits.Do you really think it costs more for businesses to accommodate
customers and employees with disabilities then it benefits them? Do you really
think it costs society more?Don't forget, when you are weighing the
costs and benefits to look at secondary and tertiary as well as direct.Here are a couple of hints for you: Do you think it is cheaper to install
automatic doors at grocery stores or pay someone to do the grocery shopping for
people who are unable to access the store because they can't get the door
open?Do you think it is more expensive to install handicapped
bathrooms and elevators or pay welfare benefits to someone who is unable to work
because they can't get to their office or use the restroom in the building where
they work?Do you think it is more expensive for the public to fund
sidewalk cuts or pay for the wrongful death of someone who is forced to travel
in the street because they have no access to the sidewalk?Remember:
each accommodation is used by multiple people.
''Reducing barriers': Americans with Disabilities Act marks 20 years' - Title
of Article Good for them! Many on this thread got it
right. Some canidates this year really DO want to get rid of any social program,
like the ADA, that help Americans with Disabilities... because it's
'socialist.' My reply would be... what have they been
doing to help Americans with Disabilities all this time? Nothing. Love they neighbor does not include... Repeal the Americans
with Disabilities Act. Repeal Affirmative action when it is proven there
is a wage difference between a white male and a black male. Block
Unemployment for the unemployed after the Financial Meltdown. Etc, etc.
"former UTAH" - I don't want to get rid of ADA. ADA is doing something right but
not good enough.
The ADA is another well-intentioned law that, unfortunately, has a far greater
cost to the public than any benefit it provides.
P.S. To md:The American's with Disabilities Act DID NOT create a
"program". It created a CIVIL RIGHTS LAW!!! A law requiring the nation's people
to "equalize the playing field". NO ONE abuses this law. EVERYONE
utilizes this law--and by the time you are all 90 years old EVERY person in this
nation will have benefited from this CIVIL RIGHTS LAW (as, by the time you're
elderly--or heck--just walk into Wally-Mart--you will have already benefited
from the law cause the doors will automatically open for you, and accessible
shopping carts will be provided for you)!!!! So--to the
commenters--know what the heck you're talking about before you post!
Get rid of the ADA? Why? So you can learn what it's like to live in a completely
unequal world!People wonder why I compare the Tea Party movement to
the facist Nazi movement in Germany before WWII. How can someone consider it
"horrible" to get rid of a law that "levels the playing field" for ALL people?
What's next for the Tea Party? Are they going to start justifying why it is
cheaper for parents of children with disabilities to allow dr's to kill their
children--like the Nazi's did?You people who are against the ADA are
prejudiced and STUPID!!! The changes the ADA created benefit ALL people in this
country. Anyone who has used a curb cut (which is basically everyone in this
country) or have used an automatic door to get into a store should be GRATEFUL
for the blessings this law has brought. And please realize that even
if you can get the insane idiots from the Tea Party elected, people like myself
will do everything in MY power to ensure that they are unable to over turn ANY
law that YOU think they should over turn!!!!
you want to get rid of ADA. then do it right when those disabled can feel
independent. ADA law need to fix it. Stupid law such as " no fixed service
within of 3/4 mile (0.75 mile) there should be no paratransit service for
certain disable people. I live in an area where there was fix service and now it
is gone and next service closes to me is about 1.5 mile. What happen to the law
in Utah when comes to snow day and high percentage of those people don't shovel
or they are too busy.
Just think, if a bunch of Tea Party Candidates like Rand Paul, Sharon Angle, and
our own Mike Lee get elected we can get rid of the ADA!!!
If we elect mike lee and more teapartiers we can get rid of these laws and get
back to survival of the fittest and the original constitution they way god and
the forefathers intended. Sarcasm, its not just for breakfast
Derned liberals and their doogood programs.
About 30 years ago, we lived in Orem, my husband, who is now deceased worked for
Handicapped Awareness. They had done a few "handicap awareness days" in the
Utah CO area. He did one for Orem, they had just put in new curb cuts by the
city building/library. The mayor and some other city people were given manual
wheelchairs and were given the challenge of going up and down those curb cuts.
The rule, from what I recall is that for every inch of step or rise, there has
to be 12" of ramp, that can be very difficult to get that accomplished when
there are ten stairs and such, but it can be done. When the mayor tried these
curb cuts he stated later, "I wish I had consulted a person in a wheelchair".
People do not realize the strength it takes to propel in a manual chair, just
going over carpet on a flat surface can be hard. ADA also protects people who
are disabled and can't continue to do their job.
Because of the ADA act, I was able to teach another twenty years so I could
retire. I wasn't a burden on the tax payers by having to go on disability. All I
needed was air conditioning. I remember the day the law passed. I jumped for
joy. I'm so grateful for it!
This is the type of person for whom the act was written. Unfortunately, many
people abuse this program and make it their goal to be determined "disabled" so
they can sit on their duffs. I think the system needs to be monitored much
better than it is currently.