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Published: Thursday, July 8 2010 11:00 p.m. MDT

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Utah currently has a WP48 line up of:

DWill .25, Gaines .17, Price -.01
Mathews .06, OJ .09
CJ -.01 Hayward ?
Fes -.11, Koufos -12
Millsap .15 AK .21

? Korver .11, Okur .05, Brewer .09

The big hole is at C.

If Korver is gone there is a hole at wing especially in shooting. PF is covered but Millsap/AK will require more outside shooting than Boozer did.

We do not know what Hayward's WP48 will be. CJ has to improve his shooting percentage by 5% and he will have a decent WP48.

Boozer .293 His rebounding and shooting have to be replaced. The Wp48s of Millsap and AK will rise as Millsap starts and AK play PF.

Koufos and Fes will have to rebound and dramatically improve in shooting. The average C is .22 in WP48.

Okur over the last 4 years has declined from about average to .05. It is unlikely he will do better this year when he returns.

The Jazz can contend if they can max the team WP48. They just lost .29 + .11 + .05 in Boozer, Korver and Okur. 2 players with a WP48 of .20 each would offset that.


A Portland fan talking trash. Your owner fired your GM right before the draft, but still had him run the draft. Hahaha. I'm sure the Jail Blazers picked up some excellent players!

It sounds like O'Connor should try to work over a cheap team trying to shed salary. We just have to remember he can't force anyone to do anything. This is real life NBA, not the video game. I vote for a three like Al Harrington, allowing AK to play more four, and a back up five (although good luck finding a back up five not named Erick Dampier that someone is willing to give up).

Who are you kidding, Todd? You's got no steak and eggs to bet. Maybe a 99 cent breakfast sandwich with a fast food joint coupon.


I expect Mathews to raise his WP48. So he will be .10 to .15. Millsap should go back up to about .25. AK will go up a little to .25. If Gaines replaced Price that would help, .18. Based on what we have seen so far of Hayward he should have a positive WP48. est .0 to .15.

If the Jazz add Amundson or Mahimni they both have WP 48s around .20.

Gortat would be a good move.

If the Jazz could get an older experienced C for cheap for a year with a good WP48 it might fix this year. They can rebuild while posturing for the new CBA. They can make big moves when the right players come along.

Pryzbilla had a higher WP48 than Boozer before he got injured. Who knows if he can still play.



Yeah, Trail Blazer always does that. He's upset that you used the term "jailblazer" too. He always comments at how that term doesn't describe Portland anymore, lol. He's trying to compensate for the lack of success of his team :)

I think the Jazz will make good use of the TPE.

Go Jazz!


To Menace To Society"

Yeah your right I dont, I am not rich enough. Hey you endorse AL Harrington, totally cool. I am down for what truly helps the Jazz.

Shaqqie Atlanta or Spurs is rumor

I assume he is no good for Sloan and his "sloanaholics"?

Just ASking

What about Shaqqie back up Z?

Just ASking


In the playoffs Millsap played PF and his WP48 jumped up in to .28 and Boozer who played mostly C dropped to .18. That is why I am not worried about the PF position.

However, dropping from Boozer at .18 or even from Okur at .05 to -.12 (Fez/Koufos)is falling off of a cliff at C.

The Jazz absolutely have to fix this black hole or they will not compete. Fes and Koufos will improve with playing time. However if they even get above 0 near Okur that is a lot of improvement. They are not as bad as Collins this year or last but you do not want anyone on the court for substantial minutes with a negative WP48.

It is a catch 22. They can't get better without playing time but they hurt the team unless they can rebound and shoot well enough to get to at least a positive WP48.

Fes had one game where he rebounded 11 rebounds. His WP48 for that game was about .27. He had other games that drug his average down.

Korver at .10 can be dealt with if he is not signed.


Other teams are filling thiers rosters with 1st round drafted stars,

While the jazz is filling thier roster with:

2nd rounders,
non drafted players,
and unwanted cast offs from other teams
and even their own past cast offs

Guess which teams will win a championship first.


Truth is... I know more about the Jazz then Coach SantaBarbara Or Buzzoff!!!... But the moves they have made in the past few years makes no sense?... What I can say is in the coming months that the Jazz make some good choices... And to not blow the budget like they did on A.K. or Ostertag, Or even Milsap!!... I ust Milsap can play to the moneynthey paid him... Time to find out???


Millsap is making what 6 million a year now, I think he'll more than earn his salary. Sure he got a big bonus at the start of the contract but I see that as a reward for his playing for 2nd round money. I'm guessing Millsap will average at least 15 and 10. They've made bad decisions in the past (Memo extension, really?), so it's all about what they do next. Don't use the exception for the sake of using the exception, meaning don't take on a bad contract. There are still players to be had, let's hope KOC is smart, aggressive and lands the right players.

Utah Valley Guy

Most of the would-be general managers here talking about what a lousy job O'Connor is doing probably have no idea what constraints a real-life GM faces in the NBA.

The salary cap, luxury tax, exceptions, contract variables, overseas players, language barriers, off court risks, and still more need to be considered and managed, along with all the other variables of system, talent, attitude, and injuries. It's like playing chess on a board that's 64x64.

The truth is simple: Utah is one of the most successful teams in the NBA, year-in, year-out. It certainly is one of the most successful small teams by far. How many teams have actually won a championship in the past two decades - five or so?

Let's be true fans and stay positive - even with suggestions. All the negativity is like spitting into the wind - it does nobody any good and only hurts ourselves.


Both the Cleveland Cavs and the Toronto Raptors decided that if their star was going to leave town, they might as well get something in return. Both teams are participating in sign-and-trade transactions. The Cavs and Raptors both netted first-round draft picks and large trade exceptions for their trouble."

Did the Jazz get a first rounder? No.

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