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Published: Tuesday, June 29 2010 12:30 a.m. MDT

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The Great Houdini

Hope it doesn`t turn into a Millsap situation where we are held hostage,Matthews deserves a nice raise,but Fes???? honestly what has he done to earn it? hang out with his Russian buds,smokin and joking and not putting much into his game...

Large Tuna

Matthews definitely deserves a raise and a long-term contract, but I don't think they'll get bit nearly as hard as they did when the Blazers went after Milsap. At least I hope not!

toddfromsantaana

Houdini, I am willing to give fes one more year and then the excuses will be gone. I criticize a lot but these 2 moves are cool, I have no problem with it

SportzFan

Todd,

The Jazz are relieved to have the approval of a former coach of a league in LA where players who used to play in Europe play. They are especially relieved you are willing to give a one-year window to Fes, who you spent the whole season propping up as the center of the present and future.

Uteology

"After the way he played in the playoffs and the commitment that's been made to him at this point, it's safe to say (the qualifying offer) was expected," Fesenko's agent, Stu Lash.

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I expect that comment from his mother but Stu come on did you really say that with a straight face.

Fez was given the OPPORTUNITY to prove him self and all he did was be awed by the stars in LA (see ESPN).

Personally I think Kufos has is a better shooter and has better hands. Unless we're only happy playing for a division title I say start him for 40+ games to see he's a bust or not. Okur can come off the bench as a 3 point specialist since he has no inside game anyways.

yojimbo

$1 Mil for Fes is absolutely worth it man and probably up to $2 IMO

Bugoff

Okur had an inside game when he chose to play it. However, he preferred his outside game. Also partly out of deference to Boozer, he moved outside. Okur could have had more points and rebounds but deferred to Boozer.

The Okur 3s were spectacular and in some situations very helpful. In some situations going outside was the right strategy. However, the Jazz would have won more games over all if Okur consistently played a stronger inside game. That would have reduced Boozer's stats.

Boozer distorts the offense to some degree and that tends to cost games. Even though he demands a double team, teams tend to pack the paint to stop him inside.

Once the paint is packed and Boozer is stopped inside the Sloan flex (as now constituted) dies. The Jazz turn into an ad hoc jump shooting team.

The team has to have more balance with more outside shooting capability. It also needs another inside attack option than Boozer or the PF position. The Jazz are too dependent on the PF attack.

If the C and SF can also attack effectively inside AND if the wings can shoot the Jazz become lethal.

More talent is needed.

Draft dumbie

Centers have always taken time to develop, except for the few who are immediately allstars (and even those type of players still get better as they get more experienced--such as Hakeem Olojawan). That was true even when players used to go to four years of college before coming to the NBA. Both Fesenko and Koufos came to the Jazz at age 19, so you would expect them to have even a longer learning curve. And, if you look at the salaries of even some of the mediocre backup centers, such as Nazr Mohammed or Dasagna Diop, they are earning about $6 mil per year. Even Jarron Collins, who was a total stiff at center, was being paid $2 mil per year. Therefore, it would be great if the Jazz could lock in Fesenko at $1.5 mil to $2 mil for several more years--in the next few years he should be well worth that type of money, even as a backup. Fesenko showed some good flashes of talent in the playoffs--now he just has to get used to playing more minutes, so he can be productive on a more regular basis.

ezwood

Fez is a bust, periord. With his size he should be able to do something, at least defensivley. He comes into the season out of shape, after palying for Russia. This tells me he doesn't play hard. Only free agency could salvage this upcoming season. And G Hayward? Come on, another upsatnding white boy to sit at the end of the bench!

TAGZZ

Mathews was offered less than a million... That is ridiculous... He deserves way more than that... Kick Fes to the curb, Kick Koufos to the curb, keep Boozer, and get a big man... You can get rid of AK and Jerry Sloan if you want as well but don't let Mathews and Boozer fly under the radar and go somewhere else!!

Fred704

I guess not many people call a second rounder a bust.

Confused

TAGZZ
This was a qualifying offer set by the NBA's Collective bargaining Agreement. This is a formality to be able to match ANY offer by another team.
Now this is different then the actual negotiating a new contract (which they look like it will be around 6 mil/yr) process. This part the Jazz can offer as much as they feel they can afford.

The Great Houdini

Todd and Big Tuna,I hope you`re right but I think some good playoff teams are gonna go after Matthews,this kids a player.As for Fes,if he really worked hard all the time including practice I would tend to think he is gonna be a good solid player.He reminds me a bit of Mel "can I get another double cheeseburger" Turpin,,talent but no comittment...can you say "CJ Miles"

Jazz Source

re: Tagzz

Educate yourself. Please.

The Jazz are very smart in what they have done historically/with these two contracts. Here is why.

The Jazz make qualifying offers to these guys and now have the right to match any offer. What has been the history of the Jazz matching restricted free agent offers? Most recently Millsap?

They match. Teams know that.

So, Jazz have publicly made it known they intend to match at least on Matthews. So if a team makes an offer they essentially know they will either have to dramatically overpay for him in which case they will overpay for a player OR the Jazz will match the offer.

So what team likes those options? Why would a team want to offer Matthews a competitive deal only to have their offer money tied up in a offer letter (while the rest of the league is signing other available players) only to have the Jazz delay then ultimately match and them lose out entirely on other available players?

This move ASSURES the Jazz of being in the drivers seat. They either get Matthews cheaper because of their history of matching or at "market" value.

Potential upside. Limited downside.

Smart.

The Great Houdini

Just think ..if everyone had the same heart and drive that Millsap,Williams and Matthews have,I know... dream on

The Final Word

"Matthews was offered less than a million...that is ridiculous"

Oh really? From whose perspective is that ridiculous?

Should the Jazz have voided D-Wills contract year 2 because he was worth more money than his rookie contract was paying him?

Matthews is now under Jazz contract since he received a qualifying offer.

With any luck hopefully other teams will look at the history/reputation of the Jazz for matching on restricted FA deals (ie. Millsap) and not bother offering Matthews a deal only to have the Jazz drag it out a week and then match. Dumb.

Then if that happens the Jazz negotiate a reasonable salary, without having to burn up and waste all or part of our mid-level exception, and sign Matthews to a fair deal.

Then the Jazz would have remaining options/money to potentially work some other deals further improving the team.

You must be an obama supporter with that "fair" mentality. Should we just send all the players a note and ask them what they are worth on their contracts?

This is an example of why I am glad professionals run this team and not fans.

What a joke.

Captain L

Re Houdini : At it again aren't you.

johntakarl

You fans are ridiculous. Please learn about the way things work in the NBA and matching rules, qualifying offers, etc, BEFORE YOU VOICE AN OPINION. Please!!

Batman

Fez = bad.

Time for the Jazz to realize that and move on. Seriously, he is just a tall bad player, and a head case at that.

salsmanruss

Start Fez and Milsap; let Boozer go; bring Okur off the bench as a power forward/center sub for experience and offense off the bench. Then go for either veteran outside shooting that does not fizzle down the stretch or in the playoffs (i.e., Korver), and or an athletic big who can swat shots. Scoring not a priority, we have that. David Lee may also be a cheaper option than Booz (and Boozer, if you read this, I am actually a fan of yours, but business means shedding some favs to make room for an all around team with cap money situations).

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