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  • catram
    June 20, 2010 7:58 a.m.

    I would have had one more for him. "Why specifically did BYU, who has beaten Utah the last three years in football, has made the NCAA tournament upteen times in basketball, has a huge following in each of the represented states of the Pac 10, not also get invited to join, rather than Colorado?" Pause, squirm, squirm. Answer: we just figured Colorado would be a "better fit." hahahahaha

  • AZ Dave
    June 20, 2010 9:18 a.m.

    Waa Waa Waa

  • Joe Schmoe
    June 20, 2010 9:57 a.m.

    It obviously isn't due to sporting accomplishments.

    Utah has some room to claim that but Colorado?

    They haven't done anything for a looooong time.

  • LA Ute
    June 20, 2010 10:56 a.m.

    Look at all the little zoobies whyne. You're so green with envy, you could pass for Colorado State fans.

  • three11stu
    June 20, 2010 11:56 a.m.

    To those wondering why Colorado and not BYU?
    Um lets see, by taking Utah they get the Salt Lake City TV market, so no need to add another team in the same market.
    By taking Colorado, they get the Denver TV market as well.
    Not that difficult to understand people.

  • FAYM
    June 20, 2010 2:46 p.m.

    "LA Ute | 10:56 a.m. June 20, 2010
    Look at all the little zoobies whyne. You're so green with envy, you could pass for Colorado State fans."

    Gee, posting the same thing on every board, even before anyone from BYU brings it up.

    Who is green with envy?

  • Naval Vet
    June 20, 2010 8:55 p.m.

    FAYM:

    It was brought up in the first post of the day. See "catram" at 7:58 am.

  • FlyingUte
    June 21, 2010 12:37 a.m.

    Dear BYU,
    If the criteria for getting a bigger conference invite was how many times you've beaten UTAH well then shouldn't UTAH naturally already be in? Aside from beating UTAH in OT with your all time leading QB & RB @ home against a freshman QB in what was a reloading year for UTAH. who else did you beat that the critics didn't already say was because of an injury to the #1 draft pick QB? Name the game that gave BYU "national recognition" last year? How 'bout the year before? And before that?? Now do you get it?? There's NO ONE that you've beaten that you shouldn't have beaten. The teams that YOU SHOULD have beaten that would have gotten everyone in the country's attention you didn't! It's that simple. There was high expectations for the last two years with your star QB & RB and you did NOTHING! Basketball? Did one of you really mention "Basketball?" You've won 1 game in the NCAA tournament in 17 years. Utah played in the national title game and went to the sweet sixteen and you bring up "Basketball??"

  • Striker
    June 21, 2010 9:14 a.m.

    "Name the game that gave BYU "national recognition" last year?"
    Oklahoma. They held the reining Heisman winner to under 100 yards through one half before his injury and held the whole team to 265 yards and 13 points. Not even Florida did that in their last game in the National Championship!
    Utah. The team went to a BCS game just a year before and defeated Alabama. Saying that team was a no one who did not put them on the national recognition scale means you think Utah wasn't a decent team.
    How does your foot taste in your mouth?
    Pull off your red goggles and you'll see BYU has success vs. great teams.

  • wow
    June 21, 2010 12:43 p.m.

    Sorry, Striker, But YBU does beat good teams, BUT only if the game is played in LE stadium. Try winning on someone on the "good team's" home field.
    Also; How did YBU beat Utah in the year that they went 'undefeated'?

  • y be good when U CAN BE GREAT!
    June 21, 2010 1:16 p.m.

    Silly Zoobs,

    You beat a good name last year, not a good team and everyone outside Provoland knows that. Tell me again how OU finished the season?

    When it comes to great seasons tds chokes every time, heck it is a good thing you got a 6-5 Michigan team in '84 because you almost lost that one too. Oh and doesn't CU have a NC and all the other awards you do and yet you wonder why they were invited over you?

    Utah is the best team you have beaten (which you are 5 of 10)in the last 10 years, yours bowls are average, you only beat teams having mediocre seasons and you are so high maintenance who would want you?

    Stop playing the mormon card and deal with the fact that you are not a good fit for the PAC regardless, maybe you get into the B12 but who knows, what will your excuse be if they don't invite you?

    It will be a joy to crush tds one more time as we leave you behind, but at least you will be able to say you are 3-5 on us!

    Go Utes!

  • whynot67
    June 21, 2010 6:00 p.m.

    RE: y be good when U CAN BE GREAT!

    BYU beat a good name? Can only win at Lavell Edwards Stadium? The problem with trash talk is that most of the time that is all it is...trash. Oklahoma is a great program and BYU handed them a loss they didn't recover from. They were ranked #3 and deserved that ranking preseason. Don't downgrade the Sooners. Last I checked their Quarterback was the #1 draft pick in the NFL even after season ending injuries his senior season.
    Oh and while you are blowing smoke...the Utes LOST to BYU last season in almost every major sport, joining the PAC 10 doesn't change that. The Utes deserve the accolades and all that they get going to the PAC 10 but they are still only as good as their last season.

  • JER84119
    June 21, 2010 6:01 p.m.

    @catram

    Specifically. The PAC10 Conference is composed of ACADEMIC RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES. These are schools that conduct RESEARCH and confer a PhD's in a number of varied fields. BYU is primarily an UNDERGRADUATE TEACHING UNIVERSITY. These are very different animals.

    BYU only offers Doctoral degrees in 25 fields.

    Compare this to Utah and Colorado which have over 90 and 80 doctoral programs respectively. ALL of the existing PAC10 schools equal or exceed these numbers.

    These are the simple facts. BYU didn't get invited due to the University's focus (as a teaching not research institution), not the fact that its athletic resume didn't match up. Nor was it an issue of religious discrimination...

    If, to satisfy your persecution complex, you must see it as a religious issue, you can point to several events where BYU has interfered with professors Academic Freedom, and with the restructuring of the Church Education System (which refocused BYU into undergrad Teaching) circa 2000 as pivotal occasions which prevented BYU from joining the PAC10 Conference.

  • Striker
    June 21, 2010 6:37 p.m.

    re: wow
    As the poster two down from you pointed out, learn to read before you trash talk. He was talkin' to you, in case you missed it. Go back and read his post. Reread mine too. If you'd actually read the WHOLE thing, I actually said beating Utah was a GOOD win and I was talking about last year, not the 2008 year. Seriously, some people are TERRIBLE at trash talk and only read with blinders on.
    P.S. If they only win at home, why did BYU win in one of the biggest and newest stadiums, one state away from the opponents state, with the majority of the fans of the opponents, and also playing the team who just played for the NC in their last game and also had a Heisman winner? Again, take off your blinders, if that is possible, before you respond.

  • Samwise
    June 21, 2010 8:49 p.m.

    From a BYU fan: How is it that Colorado, who brings nothing to the table athletically, gets to be a full sharing revenue member as soon as they join while Utah, who brings MUCH more athletically, has to go through a three year period (if I remember correctly) of gradually becoming a full revenue sharing member? Just an honest question, because this doesn't seem quite fair to me. Any answers, Ute fans (or I guess anybody)?

  • y be good when U CAN BE GREAT!
    June 22, 2010 2:32 p.m.

    Silly Zoobs,

    You beat a good name last year, not a good team and everyone outside Provoland knows that. Tell me again how OU finished the season?

    When it comes to great seasons tds chokes every time, heck it is a good thing you got a 6-5 Michigan team in '84 because you almost lost that one too. Oh and doesn't CU have a NC and all the other awards you do and yet you wonder why they were invited over you?

    Utah is the best team you have beaten (which you are 5 of 10)in the last 10 years, yours bowls are average, you only beat teams having mediocre seasons and you are so high maintenance who would want you?

    Stop playing the mormon card and deal with the fact that you are not a good fit for the PAC regardless, maybe you get into the B12 but who knows, what will your excuse be if they don't invite you?

    It will be a joy to crush tds one more time as we leave you behind, but at least you will be able to say you are 3-5 on us!

    Go Utes!

  • TDS Fan
    June 22, 2010 11:50 p.m.

    Just and FYI: Oklahoma finished the season ranked 38th in the BCS last year. Once again, we've over estimated a meaningless win just like in 1984. Our cougs didn't beat a single top AP 25 team that year when all was said and done. But we continue to believe we deserved the NC, only to realize that we truly didn't. I'm only be realistic here . . .

    An now as the true "Little Brother / Mid-Major" to Utah, we'll need all the help we can get from them.

  • PAC Member, are U?
    June 23, 2010 12:07 a.m.

    TDS fans keep bringing up their wins over Utah since 2006 where they have won 3 of the last 4 games. Keep in mind, TDS, that in this decade, Utah has beat the TDS four straight (2002 - 2005). Also, Utah's two BCS bowl victories clearly outshines the TDS.

    The argument that the TDS deserves to go to the PAC based on it's recent wins over Utah is laughable. Since 2000, each team has won 5 games each against each other. However, Utah has two undefeated seasons during that time, something the TDS hasn't done since 1984 (against weak opponents at that), AND won their two BCS bowl games.

    Clearly Utah has been the dominant school in the MWC. While Utah is play USC at home, go and enjoy your game against the Lobos.

  • BYUFAM1
    June 23, 2010 8:25 a.m.

    Always love how Utah fans bash BYU's schedule filled with weak teams...like say...Utah.

    Seriously though, this has been a great decade for Ute fans in football. I can understand how it is difficult to figure out how to react to a decade like this because you've never seen one like it before. Here is hoping that you can come close to this feeling again.

    BYU has known decades like this.

    Consider the last 4 decades (1970-2009) and the teams with the most vitories over that time.

    Nebraska (393)
    Ohio State (366)
    Oklahoma (364)
    Michigan (360)
    Penn State (359)
    Texas (345)
    Southern Cal (341)
    Brigham Young (340)
    Florida (336)
    Georgia (334)
    Tennessee (334)
    Alabama (329)
    Florida State (330)
    Miami-Florida (325)
    Notre Dame (321)
    Auburn (318)
    ___________

    Utah (255)

    Other than the most recent decade where you were better you have not even come close to BYU. And by the way BYU was still a top 25 team in this their worst decade in 40 years based on winning percentage.

  • BYUFAM1
    June 23, 2010 8:33 a.m.

    Winning percentages by decade for current conference opponents (# is the national rank)

    70's - #1 Oklahoma 0.87712 (102-13-3)

    11 SDSU
    22 UNLV
    30 BYU
    70 NM (below 500)
    84 CSU
    91 AF
    92 Utah
    98 WY
    113 TCU


    80's - #1 Nebraska 0.83740 (103-20-0)

    3 BYU
    35 AF
    39 WY
    57 Utah (below 500)
    66 SDSU
    75 UNLV
    91 NM
    93 CSU
    94 TCU

    90's #1 Marshall 0.89744 (35-4-0) #2 Florida State 0.89024 (109-13-1)

    16 BYU
    22 AF
    24t CSU
    29 Utah
    30t WY
    51 SDSU
    68 TCU (below 500)
    84 NM
    105 UNLV


    2000's - #1 Boise State 0.86822 (112-17-0)

    7 TCU
    12 Utah
    23 BYU
    46t AF
    63 CSU (below 500)
    72t NM
    99t WY
    103 UNLV
    106 SDSU

    Again congrats on the PAC invite. Congrats on your best decade ever (in which you were 5-5 with your rivals). Keep doing what you are doing, make the next 3 decades as good as this one (or almost as good) and then you'll have another believer. Not a fan - but a believer.

  • <>
    June 28, 2010 11:57 p.m.

    @BYUFAM1

    Against the BCS in general:

    Since 2003: Utah 15-5, BYU 9-13
    Since 2001: Utah 18-8, BYU 12-14
    Since 1999: Utah 19-11, BYU 15-18
    Since 1990: Utah 28-20, BYU 24-36

    Against above .500 BCS teams:

    Since 2003: Utah 7-3, BYU 5-9
    Since 2001: Utah 8-5, BYU 5-10
    Since 1999: Utah 8-5, BYU 7-14
    Since 1990: Utah 12-14, BYU 10-29