I would have had one more for him. "Why specifically did BYU, who has beaten
Utah the last three years in football, has made the NCAA tournament upteen times
in basketball, has a huge following in each of the represented states of the Pac
10, not also get invited to join, rather than Colorado?" Pause, squirm, squirm.
Answer: we just figured Colorado would be a "better fit." hahahahaha
Waa Waa Waa
It obviously isn't due to sporting accomplishments.Utah has some
room to claim that but Colorado?They haven't done anything for a
Look at all the little zoobies whyne. You're so green with envy, you could pass
for Colorado State fans.
To those wondering why Colorado and not BYU?Um lets see, by taking Utah
they get the Salt Lake City TV market, so no need to add another team in the
same market.By taking Colorado, they get the Denver TV market as well.
Not that difficult to understand people.
"LA Ute | 10:56 a.m. June 20, 2010 Look at all the little zoobies whyne.
You're so green with envy, you could pass for Colorado State fans."Gee, posting the same thing on every board, even before anyone from BYU brings
it up.Who is green with envy?
FAYM:It was brought up in the first post of the day. See "catram"
at 7:58 am.
Dear BYU,If the criteria for getting a bigger conference invite was how
many times you've beaten UTAH well then shouldn't UTAH naturally already be in?
Aside from beating UTAH in OT with your all time leading QB & RB @ home against
a freshman QB in what was a reloading year for UTAH. who else did you beat that
the critics didn't already say was because of an injury to the #1 draft pick QB?
Name the game that gave BYU "national recognition" last year? How 'bout the year
before? And before that?? Now do you get it?? There's NO ONE that you've beaten
that you shouldn't have beaten. The teams that YOU SHOULD have beaten that would
have gotten everyone in the country's attention you didn't! It's that simple.
There was high expectations for the last two years with your star QB & RB and
you did NOTHING! Basketball? Did one of you really mention "Basketball?" You've
won 1 game in the NCAA tournament in 17 years. Utah played in the national title
game and went to the sweet sixteen and you bring up "Basketball??"
"Name the game that gave BYU "national recognition" last year?"Oklahoma.
They held the reining Heisman winner to under 100 yards through one half before
his injury and held the whole team to 265 yards and 13 points. Not even Florida
did that in their last game in the National Championship!Utah. The team
went to a BCS game just a year before and defeated Alabama. Saying that team
was a no one who did not put them on the national recognition scale means you
think Utah wasn't a decent team. How does your foot taste in your
mouth?Pull off your red goggles and you'll see BYU has success vs. great
Sorry, Striker, But YBU does beat good teams, BUT only if the game is played in
LE stadium. Try winning on someone on the "good team's" home field. Also;
How did YBU beat Utah in the year that they went 'undefeated'?
Silly Zoobs,You beat a good name last year, not a good team and
everyone outside Provoland knows that. Tell me again how OU finished the
season? When it comes to great seasons tds chokes every time, heck
it is a good thing you got a 6-5 Michigan team in '84 because you almost lost
that one too. Oh and doesn't CU have a NC and all the other awards you do and
yet you wonder why they were invited over you?Utah is the best team
you have beaten (which you are 5 of 10)in the last 10 years, yours bowls are
average, you only beat teams having mediocre seasons and you are so high
maintenance who would want you? Stop playing the mormon card and
deal with the fact that you are not a good fit for the PAC regardless, maybe you
get into the B12 but who knows, what will your excuse be if they don't invite
you?It will be a joy to crush tds one more time as we leave you
behind, but at least you will be able to say you are 3-5 on us!Go
RE: y be good when U CAN BE GREAT!BYU beat a good name? Can only
win at Lavell Edwards Stadium? The problem with trash talk is that most of the
time that is all it is...trash. Oklahoma is a great program and BYU handed them
a loss they didn't recover from. They were ranked #3 and deserved that ranking
preseason. Don't downgrade the Sooners. Last I checked their Quarterback was
the #1 draft pick in the NFL even after season ending injuries his senior
season. Oh and while you are blowing smoke...the Utes LOST to BYU last
season in almost every major sport, joining the PAC 10 doesn't change that. The
Utes deserve the accolades and all that they get going to the PAC 10 but they
are still only as good as their last season.
@catramSpecifically. The PAC10 Conference is composed of ACADEMIC
RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES. These are schools that conduct RESEARCH and confer a
PhD's in a number of varied fields. BYU is primarily an UNDERGRADUATE TEACHING
UNIVERSITY. These are very different animals.BYU only offers
Doctoral degrees in 25 fields.Compare this to Utah and Colorado
which have over 90 and 80 doctoral programs respectively. ALL of the existing
PAC10 schools equal or exceed these numbers.These are the simple
facts. BYU didn't get invited due to the University's focus (as a teaching not
research institution), not the fact that its athletic resume didn't match up.
Nor was it an issue of religious discrimination...If, to satisfy
your persecution complex, you must see it as a religious issue, you can point to
several events where BYU has interfered with professors Academic Freedom, and
with the restructuring of the Church Education System (which refocused BYU into
undergrad Teaching) circa 2000 as pivotal occasions which prevented BYU from
joining the PAC10 Conference.
re: wowAs the poster two down from you pointed out, learn to read before
you trash talk. He was talkin' to you, in case you missed it. Go back and read
his post. Reread mine too. If you'd actually read the WHOLE thing, I actually
said beating Utah was a GOOD win and I was talking about last year, not the 2008
year. Seriously, some people are TERRIBLE at trash talk and only read with
blinders on.P.S. If they only win at home, why did BYU win in one of the
biggest and newest stadiums, one state away from the opponents state, with the
majority of the fans of the opponents, and also playing the team who just played
for the NC in their last game and also had a Heisman winner? Again, take off
your blinders, if that is possible, before you respond.
From a BYU fan: How is it that Colorado, who brings nothing to the table
athletically, gets to be a full sharing revenue member as soon as they join
while Utah, who brings MUCH more athletically, has to go through a three year
period (if I remember correctly) of gradually becoming a full revenue sharing
member? Just an honest question, because this doesn't seem quite fair to me. Any
answers, Ute fans (or I guess anybody)?
Just and FYI: Oklahoma finished the season ranked 38th in the BCS last year.
Once again, we've over estimated a meaningless win just like in 1984. Our cougs
didn't beat a single top AP 25 team that year when all was said and done. But
we continue to believe we deserved the NC, only to realize that we truly didn't.
I'm only be realistic here . . .An now as the true "Little Brother
/ Mid-Major" to Utah, we'll need all the help we can get from them.
TDS fans keep bringing up their wins over Utah since 2006 where they have won 3
of the last 4 games. Keep in mind, TDS, that in this decade, Utah has beat the
TDS four straight (2002 - 2005). Also, Utah's two BCS bowl victories clearly
outshines the TDS. The argument that the TDS deserves to go to the
PAC based on it's recent wins over Utah is laughable. Since 2000, each team has
won 5 games each against each other. However, Utah has two undefeated seasons
during that time, something the TDS hasn't done since 1984 (against weak
opponents at that), AND won their two BCS bowl games. Clearly Utah
has been the dominant school in the MWC. While Utah is play USC at home, go and
enjoy your game against the Lobos.
Always love how Utah fans bash BYU's schedule filled with weak teams...like
say...Utah.Seriously though, this has been a great decade for Ute
fans in football. I can understand how it is difficult to figure out how to
react to a decade like this because you've never seen one like it before. Here
is hoping that you can come close to this feeling again.BYU has
known decades like this.Consider the last 4 decades (1970-2009) and
the teams with the most vitories over that time.Nebraska (393)Ohio State (366)Oklahoma (364)Michigan (360)Penn State
(359)Texas (345)Southern Cal (341)Brigham Young (340)Florida (336)Georgia (334)Tennessee (334)Alabama (329)Florida State (330)Miami-Florida (325)Notre Dame (321)Auburn
(318)___________Utah (255)Other than the most
recent decade where you were better you have not even come close to BYU. And by
the way BYU was still a top 25 team in this their worst decade in 40 years based
on winning percentage.
Winning percentages by decade for current conference opponents (# is the
national rank)70's - #1 Oklahoma 0.87712 (102-13-3) 11 SDSU22 UNLV 30 BYU 70 NM (below 500) 84 CSU
91 AF 92 Utah98 WY 113 TCU 80's
- #1 Nebraska 0.83740 (103-20-0) 3 BYU 35 AF 39
WY 57 Utah (below 500) 66 SDSU 75 UNLV 91 NM
93 CSU 94 TCU 90's #1 Marshall 0.89744 (35-4-0) #2
Florida State 0.89024 (109-13-1) 16 BYU 22 AF 24t
CSU29 Utah30t WY 51 SDSU 68 TCU (below 500) 84 NM 105 UNLV 2000's - #1 Boise State 0.86822
(112-17-0) 7 TCU 12 Utah 23 BYU 46t AF
63 CSU (below 500)72t NM 99t WY 103 UNLV 106 SDSU Again congrats on the PAC invite. Congrats on your best
decade ever (in which you were 5-5 with your rivals). Keep doing what you are
doing, make the next 3 decades as good as this one (or almost as good) and then
you'll have another believer. Not a fan - but a believer.
@BYUFAM1Against the BCS in general:Since 2003: Utah
15-5, BYU 9-13Since 2001: Utah 18-8, BYU 12-14Since 1999: Utah
19-11, BYU 15-18Since 1990: Utah 28-20, BYU 24-36Against above
.500 BCS teams:Since 2003: Utah 7-3, BYU 5-9Since 2001: Utah
8-5, BYU 5-10Since 1999: Utah 8-5, BYU 7-14Since 1990: Utah 12-14,