Oil spill in Red Butte Creek threatens waters, wildlife

Red Butte Creek, Liberty Park, Jordan River affected


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  • Vivi
    June 13, 2010 8:12 p.m.

    It looks as though now that we have little choice but to get away from the use of oil as a total dependency.

    Of course as time goes on there also the fact that humans become more and more careless so it may be altogether too late.

    Not to mention the fact that people are becoming more and more greedy which also brings on more carelessness!

    It has been said that animal life is ignorant, I think that humans are much more ignorant as humans seems to be the only ones that are destructive to our planet. If we don't stop being so dependent on oil the planets destruction will be nigh!

  • jeb
    June 13, 2010 2:09 p.m.

    My2cents wrote: “The safest use of oil is probably in gasoline, it gets burned off in to other chemical compounds.”

    Yes, and those “other chemical compounds” are poisonous to breathe. These poisons get in our water and soil as well as air. They poison life.

    There are plenty of alternatives to dirty oil, it’s just that the oil industry doesn’t want you to understand that. Our science education here is pretty pathetic, so people can try to fool us.

    Don’t be led by the nose. Think for yourself and understand what we must do for the future, for the planet, and for our children

  • Esquire
    June 13, 2010 9:28 a.m.

    To "the truth", you have selective amnesia.

    When will we get serious about protecting our planet? What does it take to stop protecting old industries and developing new ones that are more conducive to having a future for humans? Seen the oil spill in the Gulf? How about the coal ash problems? What about mountain top removal? The list goes on and on, all for old, carbon-based industries who are spending billions to stop society from moving on.

  • dave31
    June 13, 2010 8:41 a.m.

    So "mi2cents" wants to shut down all oil production to see how fast we can adapt to other energy sources? This reminds me of the guy who owned a "trick donkey." He just got the donkey trained to go without feed and he died!

  • cjin
    June 13, 2010 7:47 a.m.

    What naive comments. Our way of life and economy are totally dependent upon oil. Our economy depends upon growth. We want large families and this requires growth. This growth is fueled by oil. Think about our food system: most is transported from more than 1000 miles away Think about getting to work, think about the travel transportation system: this is almost entirely oil based. Oil has the highest net energy of all the fuel sources: the energy our for the energy in. Solar and wind are not ever going to replace cheap oil. Nuclear takes so much water that it's use will be limited. These other energy sources will replace only a small amount of our oil needs. We cannot just change the car fleet to electric: not overnight, not ever. So continue to drill baby drill and deal with an occasional spill. It is well worth what we get from it.

  • PapaFoote
    June 13, 2010 5:53 a.m.

    Dear Reader,
    Oil problems seem to be getting WORSE around our fragile WORLD!
    Love, The Old Goat

  • My2Cents
    June 13, 2010 5:53 a.m.

    More spills to come? These pipelines are over 50 years old and I don't think much thought was or has been given about maintaining and inspecting them when they were buried.

    Over time with ground shifts, landslides, earth tremors, erosion and corrosion, etc, these pipelines have been through some major stresses. I think this is only the beginning. Internal corrosion from the acids in oil has probably weakened these pipes more than we know.

    Though we depend on oil for gasoline, many more other companies depend on it for other by products. Our economy, science, medicine, and manufacturing all depend on oil. The safest use of oil is probably in gasoline, it gets burned off in to other chemical compounds.

    If we want to stop depending on oil, we will have to stop making steel, stop making electricity, turn off the TV's, walk or ride a horse to work, and return to wooden framed and animal skinned drums to communicate.

    We have to develop in responsible and limited growth and drilling to slow down its use. But oil is ours and the world economy.

  • Bob Pomeroy
    June 13, 2010 3:00 a.m.

    Finally some posts with a sense of humour, and then there was 'truth' making it's commercial. They'd better clean it perfectly and make it better than it was, or it will be Chevron's turn to watch black humors drain down the River Jordan.

  • Darr247
    June 12, 2010 11:31 p.m.

    This is obviously Herbert's Katrina. Look at what a major contributor Chevron has been (and other petrol companies, as well) to his campaign.

    And 'L' ("I'm not very good at figuring things out !") - Part of your problem is you're assuming a barrel of oil is 55 gallons; it's not... a barrel of oil is 42 gallons.

  • Trout Undertones
    June 12, 2010 10:44 p.m.

    As long as we are an oil consuming society things like this will happen. It's terribly unfortunate, but like I said...it'll happen til the end of time. Earth just can't seem to win with us around.

  • ECR
    June 12, 2010 9:03 p.m.

    The Truth - You left out a BIG one - 9/11

    Oops! That was the Republicans.

  • the truth
    June 12, 2010 8:45 p.m.


    Funny, how all these bad thing happen when democrats are in charge,

    OIl spills,
    high unemployment,
    skyrocketing national debt,

    Iranian hostage crisis,

    nuclear bombs dropped,

    rogue nations gettng nuclear capabity,

    patriot act made permanent,

    korean war
    vietnam war,
    heightened war in afghanistan

    trail of tears,

    germans interned in camps (ww1)

    japanese interned in camps (ww2)

    military segregated (wilson),

    thousands of people imprisoned for speaking out, businesses shut down, newpapers shut down, fairness doctrine, (wilson, fdr, demcrat contolled congresses)

    violent protests,

    it goes on and on,


    you be the judge.

  • Pagan
    June 12, 2010 7:26 p.m.

    Just more examples of how big oil is 'safe'.

    Drill baby! Drill! - Sarah Palin

    Drill here, Drill now. - GOP

  • The Real Maverick
    June 12, 2010 6:42 p.m.

    Blame Obama. It's all Obama's fault. And the green gestapo. If it weren't for them Chevron wouldn't have been forced to drill in Red Butte Canyon.

  • mi2cents
    June 12, 2010 6:21 p.m.

    What a bunch of misdirection. . . why are we still even moving this stupid oil around. We keep looking at the symptom instead of the cure. Shut all this oil production down and see how fast we come up with alternatives to oil. HERE COMES THE SUN LA LA LA LA. If we don't mother nature will fix the problem for us . . . oh I mean eliminate the problem which is us.

  • Joe Moe
    June 12, 2010 6:09 p.m.

    @my slc 5:35

    What an inane comment. Either that, or in your alternate reality (where Democrats had controlled Utah for the last couple of decades) we wouldn't be using oil today. Wonder how they would have managed that..... Check with your alternate reality seer and get back with us on that, we'd all love to hear how we would not need oil anymore under their sage leadership.

  • my slc
    June 12, 2010 5:44 p.m.

    Re: John Stewart Pill

    Peter was there, there are pics, Becker has already made a statement. The clean up crews are there.

    What the heck do you want them to do? Jump in the oil and soak it up with their clothes?

  • my slc
    June 12, 2010 5:36 p.m.

    This is so going to hurt the Utah GOP. I am sad about the loss of wildlife and environment. But Tea Party folks, try to get out of this one.

    SLC, and I believe Utah will not forget this one and your party stands regarding drill baby drill.

  • attentive
    June 12, 2010 5:21 p.m.

    As much as all the homeowners along the Jordan River and whose backyards were havens and are now polluted are disgusted - can you imagine what it's like in the Gulf right now? Can you imagine depending on your backyard to pay your bills and to feed your family? That's what those in the Gulf area have been dealing with for almost 2 months now. I hope it all gets cleaned up and that human beings start really having a grasp on our responsibilities to the environment, all life forms, and ourselves. All of our mistakes and consequences of greed get passed on to our children and future generations.

  • John Stewart Pill
    June 12, 2010 5:02 p.m.

    This might turn out to be Carroon's Katrina.

  • stanfunky
    June 12, 2010 4:49 p.m.

    Yikes. From the picture, it doesn't look good.

    Here's an idea - let's fix the problem and sort out how to help the affected areas recover, and NOT APPORTION BLAME until all the facts are known. In fact, let's not affix blame for six months! By then it should be obvious what happened, and who to lambast. IN the meantime this is a sad day for Liberty Park and Red Butte.

  • eagle
    June 12, 2010 4:35 p.m.


    Not likely to be able to afford to go on a trip anywhere near the Gulf of Alaska to call Rush Limbaugh if my boat (which I can't afford one either) started sinking in this economy...

    No comment on Hoover Dam (or Glen Canyon)...I'm a Edward Abbey fan and those who know Abbey would know what he thinks of those projects...

  • Happy Jack
    June 12, 2010 3:42 p.m.

    Ho hum! Another day, another oil leak! Wake me up when the Big One hits!

  • ECR
    June 12, 2010 3:30 p.m.

    Attentive 11:56 - Perfect comment! Thanks.

  • my slc
    June 12, 2010 1:56 p.m.

    It is a darn shame. My prayers go out to all the folks and animals that live downstream. We need to have oil for now, but what have learned since the 1973 oil embargo?


  • Not_Scared
    June 12, 2010 1:38 p.m.

    They closed Liberty Park. Monday, Glen Beck will outline how Obama using money from environmental groups planed this to be an attack on Liberty.

  • Not_Scared
    June 12, 2010 1:11 p.m.

    "Wasn't Chernobyl a government run facility?"

    Weren't those Navy seals who rescued the captain off Somalia employed by our government? Wasn't it government that built Hoover Dam?

    The government isn't going to take over the oil industry. This is America, if your ship is sinking in a storm in the Gluf of Alaska in Winter you are free to call Rush Limbaugh and not the US Coast Guard.

  • L
    June 12, 2010 12:56 p.m.

    Let's see 50 gallons per minute according to the story and 500 barrels reported.

    500 barrels x 55 gallons each would = 27,500 gallons total (that would run my car for awhile - refining loss)

    27,500 gallons / 50 gallons per minute = 550 minutes

    550 minutes / 60 = 9 hours or so.

    It seems like there should be a meter device somewhere that tells the operators that all the oil he is sending just isn't getting there and to shut off the source. Maybe they do have that and they did shut it off immediately and that was just the oil that was already in the lne draining out.

    I'm not very good at figuring things out !

    Sure glad it wasn't as much as in the Gulf, there might not be the same interest in cleaning up the Great Salt Lake or the Jordan River and the wetlands.

  • eagle
    June 12, 2010 12:44 p.m.

    Maybe the government should just take over the oil industry and these platforms and pipelines.

    Then again...

    Wasn't Chernobyl a government run facility? This has me thinking...

  • Screwdriver
    June 12, 2010 12:30 p.m.

    What's our natural deficit up to these days? Death to all species or just most of them?

  • attentive
    June 12, 2010 11:56 a.m.

    Earth can't get a break...

  • cynic
    June 12, 2010 11:35 a.m.

    Didn't I just read where Sarah Palin said pipelines on land, above ground, are much safer and less likely to cause spills?

  • Screwdriver
    June 12, 2010 11:23 a.m.

    Not to be outdone by BP......

    The cause - It's Obama's fault. And why hasn't he stopped that leak as well. Just plain incompetence.

  • shamrock
    June 12, 2010 11:09 a.m.

    Authorities are advising that you keep your children and pets away from the Red Butte stream in places like the Miller Bird Refuge (aka Hobbit Glen) in the Harvard-Yale area.