[Bugoff | 9:49 p.m. June 10, 2010Tony Allen is a unrestricted FA who
currently gets $2.5 mill. His WP48 is .156. He can guard Kobe.]He
has a broken jump shot, can't slash well, and is injury-prone (misses 26 games
per year on average). He might have limited success against Kobe, but that's no
reason to sign him. He needs to be a good fit for the Jazz overall.[The Jazz need to go get him. He is better than Mathews and maybe cheaper. As
I said, He can guard Kobe.]Wes has a better offensive game by far,
and will get better on defense. He is 23 years old, while Tony Allen is 28 and
very injury-prone (misses 26 games a year on average). [If the Jazz
had both Allen and Mathews it would not hurt.]It wouldn't help,
either. Allen would likely want more playing time if he leaves Boston and a
bigger role, but Matthews has the more promising future, and comes to play EVERY
night. The Jazz want Matthews back, and will give him a substantial raise from
the $457,588 he made this year.
Do not remember the exact sources but I know I have seen comments by Stoudamire
in the last week indicating he already had a max offer from PHO but wanted to
explore his options. He did not rule out staying. Maybe 50/50. May have been
HoopsWorld or HoopsHype.
Tony Allen is a unrestricted FA who currently gets $2.5 mill. His WP48 is .156.
He can guard Kobe. The Jazz need to go get him. He is better than
Mathews and maybe cheaper. As I said, He can guard Kobe. If the Jazz
had both Allen and Mathews it would not hurt.A couple of good
acquisitions like Allen and Boozer will not be missed.
Jazz Source: "Millsap was signed because the Jazz had no choice because they
were not certain what would happen with Boozer ie. opting in or out etc."If Millsap was getting offers or an offer, the free agent signing period
had begun, so Boozer obviously had opted in by that point. "Just the facts".I haven't seen too many people make a claim that Millsap is better than
Boozer. Here is the question, if Millsap is going to make under 8 million next
year and Boozer is seeking 12+, who is the better value? Next question, if we
aren't challenging for a title with Boozer, then would some financial
flexibility help our cause in the future? Everyone knew that Boozer would show
up big this season because he was essentially playing for the raise he
guaranteed that he'd get, but if 19 and 11 represent his strong year, I wouldn't
want him back if he's 28, not improving and has a long history of injury. I'm
glad somebody pointed out that he isn't the 20/10 guy everyone calls him, being
that he only averaged that twice in 8 years.
RE: Jazz Source | 4:33 p.m.Boozer wasn't a 20 and 10 player
last season, and in any case, what did boozer really do for
jazz? they've had the same outcome for the last four years,NO improvement,just stagnation. time for a
change, the boozer experiment is over,just having a good regular
season is not reason enough to keep him around.unless that is all
you care about.
re: BugoffMaybe you could share your resource for Stoudemire
receiving a max deal offer from PHX. I read on ESPN that his agent has not yet
met with PHX management to even discuss it. Why would they be
planning to meet if he already has a max offer? re: Large TunaMillsap was signed because the Jazz had no choice because they were not
certain what would happen with Boozer ie. opting in or out etc. They also had
little depth at the position. I can also tell you if they could
trade Millsap now and somehow afford Boozer instead they would do that in an
instant.Boozer is clearly a more talented PF so why wouldn't they?
Not saying financially it can be done but if the Jazz could they would.When Paul Millsap averages 20 and 10 for a full season and for multiple years
and makes the allstar team you let me know and we can discuss his progress then.
Millsap is a stud but he is a backup--a very good backup. The only
offer he receieved was from Portland who planned to have him backkup
Aldridge.Just the facts.
Good luck to any team who thinks any of these three jokers can be a leader on a
championship team.They could be a delta dog behind LBJ, Rose & Noah
in Chicago at best.Feel bad for DWade but at least he has a ring;
like David Stern says, that's more than anyone else in this FA crop can say.
For everyone who thinks Boozer has any chance staying in utah, remember that
last year we signed Millsap. That was the front office basically telling Boozer
to hit the road. I am 99.9% sure Boozer will NOT be back, and would be
completely shocked if he returned (and disappointed).
Doug10 | 8:13 a.m. June 10, 2010Tim, Shame on you. Sounds to me like you
have a wound and so are delving into the past. More recently Boozer has defended
his life in Utah and stuck up for the state and his way of life here.---------"It's not that bad. Really, it's not that bad."Boozer defended Utah like the Polish defended the Jews.
Bosh and Stoudamire are not playing for 15 mill. Stoudamire already has a max
offer from PHO.
Anyone who pays Boozer or Stoudemire a max contract will be sorry. Stoudemire
is a proven attitude problem--he has whined in PHX multiple years. Boozer has
not complained about what he was paid while under contract here. Stoudemire
also sat out a year plus recovering from he microfracture surgery so he is not
immune from injury issues either--then his retina problem. In total he has
missed alot of games.Neither player is worth it.I would
sign Boozer for less though--he is one of the best PF's in the game and we will
not be able to replace that. No, Millsap can not replace him either.Millsap is not even mentioned in the same breath of discussion as the top PF's
in the league. If he were then why didn't someone offer him a max (or close to
max deal) when he was a restricted free agent? The answer is simple to anyone
with enough brain to admit it to themselves. He is not as good as Boozer.The economy combined with the impending CBA impasse might result in
several players getting alot less than they think they are/will. Lets hope.
Boozer - like all free agents are just seeing who is willing to pay him the most
money. Miami will try to sign 3 players this off season - Wade at
17 Boozer, Bosh or Stoudemire at 15 million Rudy Gay, Allen at 10
million that give them about 5 million in sign a couple of cheap free agents and
then they fill out the rest of of the roster with min player (Gains type
player)If the Jazz pay Boozer he will stay. I think that the Jazz
will let him go? He is not worth 15 million a year. Even if you trade Millsap
for nothing the Jazz would be at just under the Luxury Tax Threshold.
Tim: The Jazz have worked themselves into this position. Greg Miller's last
comments on Boozer were vague and inconclusive at best.If the Jazz
F/O had made any overtures or committments to Carlos, there would be no need for
him to investigate oportunties elsewhere.So.......Blaming Booz for
the situation is nonsense. If the Jazz can't or won't get a plan together to
keep this guy on the payroll....get prepared to lose him. HE'S GOING TO HAVE A
Tim, Shame on you. Sounds to me like you have a wound and so are delving into
the past. More recently Boozer has defended his life in Utah and stuck up for
the state and his way of life here.I also think that Boozer figured
out that Pat Riley is not to be trusted. Riley told Dwayne Wade he would get
him some help so they could contend but chose to do more or less nothing last
year even when Boozer was available.While here Carlos delivers his
20/10 and is the man, if he goes to Miami, he will play for Riley a liar and he
will be the hind teat playing second fiddle to DWade.Tim, we read
the paper to stay up on things not to rehash history. If you like to stir
things up then perhaps the National Enquirier could use your services
Miami would be a great fit for Carlos and his offensive skills.