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Published: Wednesday, June 9 2010 11:15 p.m. MDT

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B Russ

Miami would be a great fit for Carlos and his offensive skills.

Doug10

Tim, Shame on you. Sounds to me like you have a wound and so are delving into the past. More recently Boozer has defended his life in Utah and stuck up for the state and his way of life here.

I also think that Boozer figured out that Pat Riley is not to be trusted. Riley told Dwayne Wade he would get him some help so they could contend but chose to do more or less nothing last year even when Boozer was available.

While here Carlos delivers his 20/10 and is the man, if he goes to Miami, he will play for Riley a liar and he will be the hind teat playing second fiddle to DWade.

Tim, we read the paper to stay up on things not to rehash history. If you like to stir things up then perhaps the National Enquirier could use your services

macnamara

Tim: The Jazz have worked themselves into this position. Greg Miller's last comments on Boozer were vague and inconclusive at best.

If the Jazz F/O had made any overtures or committments to Carlos, there would be no need for him to investigate oportunties elsewhere.

So.......Blaming Booz for the situation is nonsense. If the Jazz can't or won't get a plan together to keep this guy on the payroll....get prepared to lose him. HE'S GOING TO HAVE A JOB SOMEWHERE

blauch

Boozer - like all free agents are just seeing who is willing to pay him the most money.

Miami will try to sign 3 players this off season - Wade at 17
Boozer, Bosh or Stoudemire at 15 million
Rudy Gay, Allen at 10 million that give them about 5 million in sign a couple of cheap free agents and then they fill out the rest of of the roster with min player (Gains type player)

If the Jazz pay Boozer he will stay. I think that the Jazz will let him go? He is not worth 15 million a year. Even if you trade Millsap for nothing the Jazz would be at just under the Luxury Tax Threshold.



Jazz Source

Anyone who pays Boozer or Stoudemire a max contract will be sorry. Stoudemire is a proven attitude problem--he has whined in PHX multiple years. Boozer has not complained about what he was paid while under contract here. Stoudemire also sat out a year plus recovering from he microfracture surgery so he is not immune from injury issues either--then his retina problem. In total he has missed alot of games.

Neither player is worth it.

I would sign Boozer for less though--he is one of the best PF's in the game and we will not be able to replace that. No, Millsap can not replace him either.

Millsap is not even mentioned in the same breath of discussion as the top PF's in the league. If he were then why didn't someone offer him a max (or close to max deal) when he was a restricted free agent? The answer is simple to anyone with enough brain to admit it to themselves. He is not as good as Boozer.

The economy combined with the impending CBA impasse might result in several players getting alot less than they think they are/will. Lets hope.

Bugoff

Bosh and Stoudamire are not playing for 15 mill. Stoudamire already has a max offer from PHO.

Rational

Doug10 | 8:13 a.m. June 10, 2010
Tim, Shame on you. Sounds to me like you have a wound and so are delving into the past. More recently Boozer has defended his life in Utah and stuck up for the state and his way of life here.

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"It's not that bad. Really, it's not that bad."

Boozer defended Utah like the Polish defended the Jews.

Large Tuna

For everyone who thinks Boozer has any chance staying in utah, remember that last year we signed Millsap. That was the front office basically telling Boozer to hit the road. I am 99.9% sure Boozer will NOT be back, and would be completely shocked if he returned (and disappointed).

BillM75

Good luck to any team who thinks any of these three jokers can be a leader on a championship team.

They could be a delta dog behind LBJ, Rose & Noah in Chicago at best.

Feel bad for DWade but at least he has a ring; like David Stern says, that's more than anyone else in this FA crop can say.

Jazz Source

re: Bugoff

Maybe you could share your resource for Stoudemire receiving a max deal offer from PHX. I read on ESPN that his agent has not yet met with PHX management to even discuss it.

Why would they be planning to meet if he already has a max offer?

re: Large Tuna

Millsap was signed because the Jazz had no choice because they were not certain what would happen with Boozer ie. opting in or out etc. They also had little depth at the position.

I can also tell you if they could trade Millsap now and somehow afford Boozer instead they would do that in an instant.

Boozer is clearly a more talented PF so why wouldn't they? Not saying financially it can be done but if the Jazz could they would.

When Paul Millsap averages 20 and 10 for a full season and for multiple years and makes the allstar team you let me know and we can discuss his progress then.

Millsap is a stud but he is a backup--a very good backup. The only offer he receieved was from Portland who planned to have him backkup Aldridge.

Just the facts.

Jazzsmack

RE: Jazz Source | 4:33 p.m.


Boozer wasn't a 20 and 10 player last season, and in any case,

what did boozer really do for jazz?

they've had the same outcome for the last four years,


NO improvement,

just stagnation.

time for a change, the boozer experiment is over,

just having a good regular season is not reason enough to keep him around.

unless that is all you care about.

Jesse

Jazz Source: "Millsap was signed because the Jazz had no choice because they were not certain what would happen with Boozer ie. opting in or out etc."

If Millsap was getting offers or an offer, the free agent signing period had begun, so Boozer obviously had opted in by that point. "Just the facts".

I haven't seen too many people make a claim that Millsap is better than Boozer. Here is the question, if Millsap is going to make under 8 million next year and Boozer is seeking 12+, who is the better value? Next question, if we aren't challenging for a title with Boozer, then would some financial flexibility help our cause in the future? Everyone knew that Boozer would show up big this season because he was essentially playing for the raise he guaranteed that he'd get, but if 19 and 11 represent his strong year, I wouldn't want him back if he's 28, not improving and has a long history of injury. I'm glad somebody pointed out that he isn't the 20/10 guy everyone calls him, being that he only averaged that twice in 8 years.

Bugoff

Tony Allen is a unrestricted FA who currently gets $2.5 mill. His WP48 is .156. He can guard Kobe.

The Jazz need to go get him. He is better than Mathews and maybe cheaper. As I said, He can guard Kobe.

If the Jazz had both Allen and Mathews it would not hurt.

A couple of good acquisitions like Allen and Boozer will not be missed.

Bugoff

Do not remember the exact sources but I know I have seen comments by Stoudamire in the last week indicating he already had a max offer from PHO but wanted to explore his options. He did not rule out staying. Maybe 50/50. May have been HoopsWorld or HoopsHype.

stanfunky


[Bugoff | 9:49 p.m. June 10, 2010
Tony Allen is a unrestricted FA who currently gets $2.5 mill. His WP48 is .156. He can guard Kobe.]

He has a broken jump shot, can't slash well, and is injury-prone (misses 26 games per year on average). He might have limited success against Kobe, but that's no reason to sign him. He needs to be a good fit for the Jazz overall.

[The Jazz need to go get him. He is better than Mathews and maybe cheaper. As I said, He can guard Kobe.]

Wes has a better offensive game by far, and will get better on defense. He is 23 years old, while Tony Allen is 28 and very injury-prone (misses 26 games a year on average).

[If the Jazz had both Allen and Mathews it would not hurt.]

It wouldn't help, either. Allen would likely want more playing time if he leaves Boston and a bigger role, but Matthews has the more promising future, and comes to play EVERY night. The Jazz want Matthews back, and will give him a substantial raise from the $457,588 he made this year.

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