While I can sympathize with what the Jazz are trying to do as far as controlling
their own ticket sales rather than letting scalpers do it, they are violating
their contract. I am an upper-bowl season ticket holder, yet I think we should
avoid the temptation to just kick the 100 Club Members in the head because they
happen to have money. The fact is, they signed a contract with the
Utah Jazz that benefitted the Jazz greatly at the time. If it was meant to have
an expiration date on it, they should have thought of that 25 years ago. As it
stands the two parties should have the right to a redress of their grievances.
This is simple sanctity of contract. It's the constitutional law (at least it
should be). Not sure why everyone is angry with the club members,
it's the Jazz brass (also not poor) who violated their contractual obligation.
Maybe it was a calculated move to create greater future opportunity. If that is
the case, the Jazz have a right to back out and incur the default judgment as
outlined in the contract. It's really basic civics folks.
Unbelieveable really.I can't believe all the hatred on here for the
(rich/privileged) people who payed ALOT of money for their Jazz seats.This would be somewhat equivalent to YOU buying a house in an exclusive gated
upscale neighborhood. Then the city knocks down the fence and puts in a trailer
court which DRASTICALLY DEVALUES your property and investment. Would you care
about that?Suddenly different viewpoint huh? Or how about a company
starts selling your car for 20% what you paid?Obama and his cronies
mentality of socialism is creeping into your brain. Everybody is starting to
hate/resent the rich just because they have for the most part worked hard and
achieved the American dream.This is a flawed mentality if you like
freedom and entrepeneurship...and keeping your own money.This whole
Jazz issue is just a microcosm of that. People who don't earn things believe
they are entitled to the same things everyone else has regardless of what it
takes to earn it.Obamaites call it "fair" but I call it insidious
and destructive.Anyone has a right to try to maintain their value of
an investment and so do these club owners.
wiley your right,sorry on the @,& i still hope for a reasonable decision to be
made on this & keep the Jazz here,instead of somewhere else.
I wouldn't be too worried, Elite People or whatever you are. There is not a
fixed price on your tickets. They're subject to market forces in a free trading
system, if I understand this correctly. If the demand for your courtside seat is
great enough (making it truly elite), then the price will go up and you sell to
the highest bidder. Where that will end up, nobody knows, but in affluent SLC it
will certainly go higher than your "paltry" 20 grand. Only now you have to make
an effort to sell them, if that's what you want. (I thought you wanted to keep
the seats and watch basketball though...)
steve,@ = "at"& = "and"
I have one of those "premium seats" and people have been "buying and selling"
them for years. All the Jazz are doing is cutting out the scalpers.
Has anyone else checked out the website where the Jazz allow their season ticket
holders the ability to transfer their seat rights? It's a pretty cool service
that the Jazz have created for their 11,000 season ticket holders.It's called the Jazz Seat Transfer Marketplace. You can google or access
through the Jazz website on the ticket page.
"fishead | 3:27 a.m. June 5, 2010 Chucky, are you for real? Someone shells
out $200,000 just to be able to purchase court side seats each year and they
aren't real Jazz Fans?"I would guess that anyone that would sue the
Jazz for $19 million that could go to purchase some talent isn't that big of a
fan. I propose they are bigger fans of themselves.I would also go
furher to assume that one of these member is a lawyer, and that this is not
costing them much to file this suit.This will never go to court. A
settlement will be reached.The Jzz are a business, and in todays
hard economic times should be able to make decisions that help them financially.
I think it's funny how people are attacking the Jazz 100 club as being snooty
elitists. For one, it's just class jealousy re-capitulated. For another, this
is not a tug-of-war between a bunch of "haves" and "have nots." Both sides of
this argument are rich (Jazz 100 club and franchise owners). So even bringing
their social status into the question is inane.
What a bunch of elitest posers! No wonder the Jazz are getting rid of their
I see several apologists for the Jazz 100 snobs claiming they have kept the team
in town. I would love to know, outside of buying some expensive tickets, what
these alleged "saviors" have done to really keep the Jazz in Utah. And exactly
what is their loss from other season ticket owners having the ability to own
their seats? They will still have the best seats to sell if they actually do
sell them.I hope the Jazz stand their ground and prevail against
these elitist bums. The Jazz 100 better have it in writing that it is an
exclusive right or a judge should throw this nonsense out. Either way the Jazz
100 can take a flying leap.
I think this shines poorly on the Jazz. If the Jazz offered the 'Jazz 100'
(i.e. the city movers and shakers) to keep the team in town, they should honor
it. I wouldn't look down on the Jazz 100 club members. If they got something
to keep the team in town, the team ought to keep their end of the deal.
Anyone stupid enough to pay a membership fee of $200,000 to watch a bunch of
semi-illiterate men show off their tattoos and diamond ear rings should lose
This abuse of the wealthy must end. I'm sick of hearing about how bad the
homeless and unemployed have it.
What's so elite about this bunch. Good grief, grow up.
as most people would get season tickets, just to get play off tickets, this
group does the opposite, they plan on selling their playoff tickets to highest
outoftown bidder, and then have the shamelessness to show up and act like
nothing is wrong, i know these types.
This was a very good and logical move by the Jazz. Allowing 11000 season ticket
holders to sell their seats enhances the value of those seats and is the normal
arrangement for many clubs. It makes it a lot easier fill the arena and sell
season tickets. I am not sure if there is ground for the suit unless
the original 220 club tickets included an exclusive right that allowed only
those tickets to be resold and a specific clause that prohibited extending
resell capability to other seats. It probably gets settled out of
court.It is set of businesses arguing with another over fine print.
It is basically business as usual.It also means that the Jazz
organization is focused on it's very broad community fan base and considers that
to be the future of the franchise. If the Jazz are ever sold I hope
they do like Green Bay and sell the organization to the fans. Basically take it
public or quasi public.
These are the people that helped keep the franchise in Utah. They bought their
seats as an investment in the future. Poor planning by the Jazz. The
treat the people that support them poorly.
Chucky, are you for real? Someone shells out $200,000 just to be able to
purchase court side seats each year and they aren't real Jazz Fans? How much
should they have to pay out to become a "real" fan? How much have you paid out
to obtain your "real" status. What have you been smoking???
how to lose your favorite team,in 19 million dollars or less.y didn't the 100
club go to the Jazz front office and try to settle this?there is no way the Utah
Jazz can pay 19 million dollars and stay here..ive lived @ died with this team
since 79,i hope there is a reasonable way to settle this.if it doesn't im going
to be spending my time,wishing we had a team here,o,ya we did..this is great..
let's say the 100 club wins.aren't they so post to be the foundation of
financial support,@ love of heart of keeping the team here? y couldn't they go
to Jazz management @ work out this with them? there's no way the Utah Jazz can
pay 19 million dollars law suit,and stay in Utah..when they win this,@ the Jazz
are in Anaheim,or Louisville,will they show up to the ESA in febuary and sit in
a blue seats,@ wait for an NBA team to play a game,from 2 other city's @ cheer
for 1 of them that's from Louisville,or Seattle. can u here the conversation
with 2 of the people there saying,i hope we get an NBA team here soon,o ya,i
used to be in the Jazz 100 club,it was great,i got all this money from the law
suit @ now i fly to phoenix and catch as many Suns games i can.this could only
happen to me @ my team,that ive died for since 79..thanks 100 people..now i can
have boring winters..
These aren't real Jazz Fans
So, some more rich dirtbags are complaining. Too bad. Maybe this is the source
where the scalpers get their tickets from. What a bunch of crybabies. Put them
up on the top row so they can see how the rest of us live.Stinking
Every athletic club has it elite group...people that want to be identified with
the club royalty at any cost.Now the Jazz Elite 100 shows it's head. I
wonder who they are and if they are really the "elite". Hmmmmmmm
So they bought these seats with the expectation of selling tickets on a regular
basis? I can see why they'd be mad if they intended to sell their seats for a
significant number of games, helping cover the cost of their membership. If
they're regular attenders, then they're out nothing really. They still get to
sit where they always sat. It's just the resell value that takes a hit. I can
see why they'd be mad, whether I'm sympathetic or not (not, really). As far as entertainment goes, it will be interesting to see how this goes down
legally. As far as how much I care, well...whatever.
I'm trying to figure out if this 100 Club thinks highly of themselves. Cry me a