I was offended by Mr. Rosenberg's comments. I live in China teaching English and
I fight misconceptions and bigotry everyday. When anyone generalizes a group of
people as crazy it hurts everyone. We need more tolerance and respect in this
world and less hate and hurtful words. People in the media should realize that
even if this was said tongue and cheek it will not be understood as such by
everyone that hears those words. There should never be a time when making fun of
someone or some group of people is OK. Please rethink your level of tolerance
i just sent sid a nice email. you should look up his email address and do the
@ PJI must agree
UTAH: "Where the separation of church and state does not exist"
Sid Rosenberg is a complete loser. He was fired by Imus several years ago for
being an idiot and flapping his gums to offend Imus' listeners - the pot calling
the kettle black!I live in Miami now and i'll tell you that there
are more crazy people here than any place in the world. Miami is not gorgeous
and its not a nice place to live not is it a nice place to raise kids. Can you
imagine if someone said that Florida or NYC has so many crazy Jews that no one
would want to live there?
@ Monty Montana. Thank you for your comments. Also Montana does not take a back
seat to any other for its beauty.
I tend to agree with those who believe that Boozer needs a solid center down
low, when Okur is missing his 3 point shot, he is basically worthless. Okurdid play well against Yao Ming, but then again Yao Ming is fragile and slow
like Okur....Okur will notbe able to defend athletic studs. I think Okur
should say adios....jump on one of those Turkish Flotillas and head for the
Rational... would you let $68 million go?
Basketballogy | 1:25 p.m. June 3, 2010Had Carlos stayed with the Cavs, a
front line of LeBron James, Carlos Boozer and Zydrunas Ilgauskas would be
formidable, and Boozer and James could well have 2 rings already and be working
on their third. -------Reveals his priorities, wouldn't
"Not bad at all" -- that's quite an endorsement, uh-huh.
Wow, there are a LOT of "glass is half EMPTY" Jazz fans. Think about
it. Most of the Mormons Boozer would know are JAZZ FANS, people with
an international reputation closer to blood-crazed gladiator patrons than Donny
and Marie. I bet Carlos really regrets leaving Cleveland for Utah,
even for the money. Utah fans are nasty, even to their own. Had Carlos stayed with the Cavs, a front line of LeBron James, Carlos
Boozer and Zydrunas Ilgauskas would be formidable, and Boozer and James could
well have 2 rings already and be working on their third.
"It's not that bad."What a ringing endorsement! Candidates must be
lining up to have him behind them! He could've said:Low
crime rate.About half the national unemployment.A high
tech haven.Ski, fish, golf, water ski, hike, opera, ballet, theater,
Jazz game, college football, all within 45 minutes of downtown and an
international airport, and ALL ON THE SAME DAY.The only major city
in America where you know what time you will arrive at your destination when you
leave your home.Your choice of world-class universities within 60
minutes of each other.World class health care.Best run
state in America.Cleanest city in America.
Funny, Funny, Funny, some of the great reading for the day. Rosemburg's tag
could draw some hype elsewhere but hardly in Utah. Most of us in Utah are rather
related to our Jewish brothers so we must defend Rosenburg....he just does not
understand his relationship to us. HA HA. As for Carlos, maybe he does need a
great defensive center to cut through the meat under the hoop. Never thought of
that. Then he can really shine at what he does best, Basketball Ballet.
Maybe there should be a seperation of church and sports. What kind of
questioning was this guy doing? Clearly he had his own personal agenda. Boozer
could of asked him about the oil slick, or hurricanes, or illegals that enter
floridas coast. What about being in the bible belt? Aren't those people crazy?
Sports aside, and like it or not, there is a negative public perception of the
state which is largely grounded in a public preception of a lockstep right wing
nut approach to religion and politics. I am living in Texas now and will retire
to my homestate next year. But I have lived all over this country, and it pains
me to see how Utahn's and Mormons are percieved. But I must tell you, the
nation has some good reasons to view us the way they do. It's good when someone
from outside will speak out against the bigotry. Good for Boozer. Hope the Jazz
can keep him and complete the roster so that we can compete against the "big
"Not that bad..." I'll agree with that statement and take it as a compliment!
Calling Mormons crazy is not the equivalent of what Imus said and should not be
mentioned in the same sentence. (It is interesting to note that Rosenberg used
to be on Imus's show. Rosenberg has said MUCH worse than this, we shouldn't be
offended.)Quit being sensitive. Mormons have been called much
worse and by far better people. We won't change the public's perception by
freaking out every time someone calls us something we don't like.
This is easy to clarify. Just call or e-mail Mr. Rosenberg's show and tell him
how people are leaving the LDS Church in droves, and how Salt Lake City isn't
even majority LDS. I've seen that comment on many other threads.Or
is that party line only reserved for "LDS Church enjoys growth" articles and not
meant for "Utah is a terrible place to live" articles?
wow, was not much of a defense...he is much better on the court then in front of
a microphone!no worries, after living in 7 other states and 6
countries I can say that Utah is great in comparison! Plenty to do outside, no
traffic woes (certainly none compared to my former Houston or San Fran
commutes), diverse economy, and great caring neighbors!Thanks for
making room for me Utah! I am really enjoying it here.
Yes those crazy Mormons. Darn it all they make life so miserable for everyone
who comes the state. It's hard in public for your kids ya know to see those old
Mormon men with their string of 20 wives tailing behind them in long dresses and
bonnets. And then they harass you on the street corners and yell at you as you
are going work and just make so hard.... Good grief, this is the 21
century and the LDS Church is nearly 15 million with more members outside the US
than within. Members consist of professional athletes to congressmen and
governors to basically every profession you can imagine. Most who know Mormons
all say they are the most Christian people they know who try to adhere to a
belief and the teachings of Jesus Christ than any other people. Some people need
to wake up and set aside old , out dated prejudices and misconceptions.
No chance Tomic comes over before next year. Jazz Source and JFFR are correct-
he is a bean pole- but an awfully good bean pole. Yall gotta realize that he
other than about an inch taller, he has the same stats as Gasol when he came
into the league. One more year in the best league in Europe should give him
more experience and hopefully add some lbs to his frame.Source said
what I have been saying for years- I love Boozers and Okurs game but they
essentially play the same position (PF NOT CENTER). Although they often play
well together, we are not a championship caliber defensive team with both of
them on the floor. Depending on how Memo comes back from his injury, we really
only need one of them, not both (although it would be nice to start one at PF
and bring the other off the bench).That said, if the Jazz play this
draft right and bring over a (hopefully) heavier, older, more experienced Tomic
next year, they will be in serious contention for a title.
Sounds like Booz has learned a lot about PR. He might want to share that
knowledge with CJ..."...Jazz swingman CJ Miles went on KESN-FM radio
in Dallas to talk about the Lakers series and dangle out the possibility of one
day donning an NBA uniform in the Metroplex:"I definitely would want
to do that at one point in my career."As for what it would take to
make it happen?"I don't know. I guess I'd have to be free and, if
they were interested, I'd definitely take it into high consideration."He could have gone with the company line of "I want to retire a Jazzman," so
it's always refreshing to hear even this little morsel of truth out of an NBA
player."At least Booz had an option when he campaigned to get out of
SLC. Nice one CJ.
Miami cont.For example - Let say Orlando feels Boozer is the best
big to play with Howard. He a great rebounder so teams can't double team Howard
on every rebound. He can hit a 15 footer. The Jazz would do a sign and trade
for Gortot, Pietrus and Ryan Anderson and a future first round pick. Give the
Jazz height, a better shooting guard and a young player.Or Charlotte
- Who has 4 shot blockers but no post players: Chandler, Diop, Mohammad,
Ratlef,Sign and trade Boozer for a sign and trade Tryus Thomas at 7
million a year(Young and extremely talented), with Diop and their first round
pick. But because of either of these move take the Jazz over the
Luxury Cap it make it difficult for the Jazz to do it. What the
Jazz cannot do is resign Boozer to a long contract at a really high price. 15
Million +. Because it take them out of the flexibility to make a good deal with
AK expiring contract.
Re LargeTuna:So your argument is that bigotry and perhaps racism is
okay as long as it’s in the name of ratings? Seriously?
Miami cont. I would try to sign 3 max player. Next year you can
use your mid level exception to build a team. Watch Miami and see if they
trade their first round pick - that will tell you a lot. The real
question is how much are teams really willing to pay Boozer. If you
spend max money on a player - can they really take you to the championship.
Will Miami, New Jersey, New York be willing to fill up the cap space on a player
like Boozer. Boozer feels he is a 17 million type player. Other teams may
think he is only 14 million. The Jazz have their number.What team
is really willing to pay Boozer the most money. The Jazz really
lost a lot of flexibility when they resigned Okur. I love Okur, but that
resigning was a huge mistake. They could have resigned him now for much less
(even if he was not injured) The Jazz would have been under the
Luxury threshold, and would have been able to find a team over the cap that
Hmmm. Rosenberg and religious bigotry. I'm wondering how the change in response
would be nationwide if the wording and/or location were changed a little: "But
those (Insert ANY other religious group here - Jews/Muslims/Christians) are
crazy, aren't they?" "But those politicians are crazy, aren't they?
I mean, the polit ... ?" (Oh wait, that one wouldn't be a big deal....)
So he defends the State of Utah, and yet the fans hate on him. Who now has the
integrity? Thank you Boozer.
Religious bigotry is alive and well in America, and Rosenberg is a religious
bigot. Talk about painting with a broad brush. We could just as easily say,
"Miami's a horrible place to live... horrible, there are so many Jews down
there!" I would never say that, its contrary to the way I was raised, but that
is in effect what he is saying.
How can a nation not tolerate asking a Mexican for his drivers license for fear
of racial profiling, but yet allow a bigotted jewish radio host to slander 12
MiamiThey have the most cap space available. 8 million in
contracts. Add their rookie that is 10 million. Add Wade being
resigned (17 Million - max money) It is at 27 million. Cap is 59
Million. That leaves them with 5 players and 32 million of cap space. They can go 2 ways - Sign 2 max players - Let say it is Boozer and Stoudemire
and ask them to take 16 million (which is 1 million less than the 17 million max
they can sign for). The problem with this is that they cannot sign any other
player over the league minimum (players like Gains). Any Mid Level exception,
resigning their own players all cut into the cap. Other way to go
is - sign one player at Max - Boozer or Stoudemire they still have 15 million to
fill out a roster. O'neal, Haslem, Richardson, Arroyo, but all will eat into
that free agent money. So Boozer knows this. The Jazz since they
have the bird right can just sign Boozer - go over the cap. They can also pay
him the most 10% increase instead of 8% increase per year
I appreciate the comments Rosenberg made about us being weird here, hopefully
people everywhere will take it to heart and stay wherever they are and only
visit a few times a year to ski and spend their money.
I traveled to Utah from Montana for 7 years for work and consider Salt Lake a
second home and all you crazy Mormons like an extended dysfunctional family. I
love your infatuation for the game of Basketball!
Good for Carlos for defending us Mormons in Utah. Also, I don't think a bigot
radio announcer in Miami has any room to talk about the Jazz not having a
championship roster. Does he think that Miami does? Without D-Wade, Miami would
be nothing. Maybe if they add Bosh or Stoudemire or even Carlos then they will
begin to at least imagine going back to the Finals.
People need to quit taking what Rosenberg said personally. You want to know the
real reason why he said it? because its his job. he's supposed to be egotistical
and all-knowing and edgy and shocking. he did it for the ratings, i seriously
doubt that he thinks everyone in utah is mormon and crazy and stupid and
everything else. how exciting would a radio show be if the host said to boozer
"now, isnt utah a pleasant place to live? oh thats nice. and are the people
there nice? oh they are? oh thats nice too...." BOR-ING!
The problem with Carlos Boozer is........wait for it......Mehmet Okur.Put Boozer with a legit Center who actually played/defended like a Center is
supposed to and alot of the Boozer hate would be gone.Props to Booz
for standing up to a religious BIGOT!! What is this guys last name?
Rosenberg???? You would think he might have a little better
perspective/sensitivity!! What a joke. Media accepts religious hatred against
mormons though.Quite frankly I don't see the Miami heat sitting on
the doorstep of a championship. The collective stupidity that produced a
signing as bad as Jermaine O'Neal pretty much sums it up. That team
currently stinks--sure they have D. Wade but one man does not a team make. (see
their record) I don't see any other superstars on that team either so if they
sign one big name free agent that still leaves them one short and don't forget
about a viable supporting cast.Tomic is a bean pole--he does seem to
be developing some skills though--I have some watched some youtube and euro
video clips. He needs to beef up or he'd be devoured in the NBA.
The title in the article is "Carlos Boozer defends Utah." Yeah he didn't fall
into the bashing prompted by the host. He also said he liked raising his kids
here and said J-SLOW was a stud.What he said is not a defense. "It's not that bad.."What if someone called your wife
ugly..And you said - she's not that ugly. Really, she's not that
ugly......Hardly a defense. I guess Boozer is bad at
all types of defending.....
well maybe not ALL credibility, but a lot!
@Doug10- did you just call him Carl Malone? And you call yourself a fan? You
just lost all credibility.@larryc- Ante Tomic? Have you seen him
play? I think you are getting a little too excited from one article about this
kid. He's like 7'2, 200lbs (*exaggeration* But the point is, he's a bean pole)
If Tomic were the missing link, the Jazz would bring him over here.
we'll find out pretty soon just how commited miller and koc are to having a
Good interview by Boozer, but what the crap is Rosenberg doing talking about
Mormons. If he said that about any other group, he would be called on carpet
for bigotry.Get some accountability with the press.
Nice to see Boozer has listened to his PR people. Doesn't this
interview speak more about the ignorance of the Radio Host than anything? He
falls into the stereotypical role. A) There is nothing to do in Utah. B)
Everyone in Utah is Mormon.To me this speaks more about how
uncultured and ignorant the radio host is.
The piese we need, which boozer is talking about, is Ante Tomic. I never heard
about this guy and he looks great, compared to gasol. Why would Boozer not wait
a year and play it out the same way they did last year which had excellent
outcomes? tomic looks like a true center, a center that alot of teams lack,
Chicago and Miami. Boozer wants to be here, it is just tempting to know that
other teams want to offer big money. As for jazz defense from okur and boozer
being week, so is Phoenix and they made it to the WCF. just got to play your
offense. which is Dwill korver Kirilinko Boozer Okur. backup, price matthews
miles millsap koufus/ tomic next year. Come on Boozer, Utah couldve locked the
3rd seed this year. chicago and miami were fighting for a seed. and utah can
win with injuries. We Good! Stay here.
I think many of us would say the same thing about Miami. All I've heard from
anyone in the media who goes there is what a horribly scary place it is, yet
beautiful too. Horrible as to the crime. Just on Monday, I was talking about
bad cities to live in and I mentioned Miami when a friend said it's not as bad
as everyone says, just avoid the bad parts and you're fine. We all have bad
information given to us, and I'm glad to see Boozer clarify the lifestyle a
little in Utah.
On one hand I think Booz might be trying to repair the damage done a year ago by
over extending his love for utah. From what I understand, the Jazz can pay him
the most and he knows living in utah is very possible for the next few years.
Mending the relationship with the fans is a smart move.On the other
hand maybe Carlos has actually had a change of heart and likes living in utah.
Hey, it could happen.
Way more diplomatic than Carl Malone ever was when he was looking for a job.Hopefully KOC and group get it that Utah needs one more good piece
rather than a complete dismantling.Seems as Boozer understands that
he has a gret pg with the Jazz and he needs that to excel at what he does. He
has played in the league long enough to know what his team needs to compete at
the next level as well.Very few other marquee players mention how
much they respect their coach when they get in front of a microphone, cudos to
Jerry for being the man.
Hmmm, the comments were not as extreme as Don Imus' but didn't he lose his job
(deservedly so) because so-called human rights activists, including Rev. Al
Sharpton, brought attention to the issue. Ironically, the discrimination card
is sooooo unequal. Again, Al Sharpton comes to the defense of illegal aliens
but evidently is deaf to comments disparaging another group of people.Props to Boozer for not going down the politically acceptable road of religion
Let's see, my chances of becoming a victim of violent crime in Utah: 1 in 397.
My chances of becoming a victim of violent crime in Miami: 1 in 56. Your right
Sid, we crazy.
Utah is a great basketball state hands down we have a history and great great
fans. I think Boozer is right when he says we have some pieces but obniviously
we need some help. I honestly think it comes down to what we pick in the draft
to see if this guy comes back. I know one thing him and Okur cannot play
together because the D is awful. The Jazz have always lacked a true big, let's
see if they step up and get us one. I'm just glad Miller wants to win. Go Jazz
let's have a good draft don't give me another reason to cheer for Phoenix or
whoever plays La in the WCF next year we need to go back to the big dance.
Booz is careful to not burn any bridges and that is smart. His life seems to
have settled down a bit. Going thru an almost divorce is rough so I suppose he
can be cut some slack for his behavior a year ago. It is very hard
to concentrate when you life is coming apart.
Boozer did an interview with David Locke earlier this year. In it he talked
about how happy his family is in Utah right now and how he'd like to stay with
the team if possible (for some reason local media only covers the interviews
Booze does outside of Utah!)Rosenberg's comments are a little bit
frustrating, but completely understandable. I'm Mormon but I grew up outside of
Utah. I used to think the same thing about Utah and place filled with so many
Mormons. I've lived in this state for 5+ years now and really like it. I'm
glad Booze has enjoyed it too and I'm glad he stuck up for SLC.
There is a good chance Boozer will still be in a Jazz uniform next year but I
think either Chris Bosh or Amare will end in Miami.
good to hear good PR from Carlos. He's mending relationships and keeping his
options open. with comments like that and you can only wish the best for him and
his future. Carlos had a good season and hopefully injuries are behind him.