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Published: Sunday, May 30 2010 12:00 a.m. MDT

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nottyou

Speak for yourself...I actually admire and appreciate the management of an organization that has the ability and the money to bring in the talent necessary to win a championship. Now, that is something Jazz fans will never experience.

Doug10


And, somewhat sadly, Jazz fans can only marvel at the way those guys in green repeatedly find a way to get things done in the postseason, a place where Utah's hopes continually end in frustration.

oh please what does this have to do with your article? the Jazz fans have to marvel at how Boston buys 3 superstars and cannot win every year.

Boston has 3 superstars, Lakers have 3 superstars
Jazz have/had 2...do the math, who wins?

Orlando may soon join the coaching carousel as they have a bunch for really good players and like Cavs may need a new coach to get them really going.

BU Graduate

I lived in MA for 17 years, and all I can say is, Go for it, Celtics!

BYUCOLORADO

As a Celtics fan, all I can say is "how sweet it is." While living in Utah I always felt bad for Jazz fans, the Jazz are a tough team to follow. They were bound to lose a lot recently when their best big man was a horrible defender.

RockOn

Any way for BOTH teams to lose? Love to see it.

Lakers v Celtics... BORING!!!!!! Hope it ends in a low scoring series of ties and the TV ratings the worst ever... maybe David "love the rich" Stern and his rich get richer NBA make it so someday it's a Memphis v. Atlanta, or Orlando v. Utah, or ANY Final that doesn't have the Lakers, Celtics or Bulls in it.

BORING!!! TO THE MAX!!!

Jazz Cop

Apparently theres no moral victories in sports, but you have to admire how the suns played, at least they gave it their best, which is more than I think you can say about the jazz. The suns have a proven leader in nash, and his performance agaisnt the lakers will solidify that. dwill has a way to go before he can command that kind of respect, but I think he's on his way. The suns remind me of the jazz doing damage with stock and malone. The problem with the jazz is they are trying to replicate the stockton to malone, but they don't have a player like amare who can pull it off. But, they also don't have the kind of pride that the celtics do, or players willing to sacrfice their bodies on defense. I pray to god the jazz let korver walk, his ballet move under the basket against the nuggets in a playoff game with jr smith is burned in my mind, there's no pride in that from a fans perspective, okur is one of the worst defenders in the league, turkolugus defense has made canada want to export him, unsuccesfully.

Laser

I'm not tired of this matchup, it oozes with history. I also always want to see the Dodgers and Yankees in the world series and the Cowboys and the Steelers in the superbowl.

Portland Trail Blazers

Yeah, speak for yourself, anyone who loves the game of basketball loves this matchup, it's the dream matchup! Go Celtics

SC Jazz Fan

Not that it is impossible for a small market team, but the article does show that larger markets can pay for titles. The Jazz could not pay the 90 million plus the 20 million in luxuray tax that the Lakers spend this year and stay in business. It is just not a financial possibility. I would like to see the luxary tax even more punitive at $2 per dollar over or scaled so that at you pay $2 on salary 10% over and $3 on salaray that is 20% over or something like that. That being said--the Jazz did not deserve to make it further than they did. JazzCop is right that DWill could learn from Nash and the team as a whole could compete harder. For the most part, it seems the more talented players have the least competitive drive (Okur, Booze, Miles, Fes) and the guys with the burn to win (Milsap, Matthews, Price) are working with less natural talent. It can be frustrating as a fan. Go Jazz (and Celtics)!

DEW

get rid of David Stern!

Bugoff

UT can fix it's problems and compete if they decide they are going to do the things that are necessary compete. Would UT fans feel any better if it were BOS vs SA?

If Boozer is signed and traded there are ample resources to put together a great team.

Get a defense like BOS or LA and you can whine about being small market.

It is not the big name expensive stars who win the championships. It is the defense, rebounding, ability to hit 3s and overall talent level of the team. Since the playoffs are match up basketball it is also the lack of exploitable weaknesses and the ability to exploit weaknesses.

How many big expensive overpaid names does ORL and CLE have? PHO was not even supposed to make the playoffs this year.

Give the Jazz credit for beating DEN and playing hard, the best they could. Then go get the talent and fix the weaknesses and stop whining about living in UT.

Bugoff

When UT stops insisting on it's loser continuity formula of weak defense, weak rebounding, under utilization of the 3, under sized PFs, plodding C, wings who can't shoot, over reliance on the PF position, SFs who do not rebound, under utilization of the SG for scoring, insisting on going inside for TOs, inability to break a paint pack and running plays that are known to the opponents and older than James Naismith then they might compete?

How many exploitable weaknesses are listed above? Do you really think you can win with a team that is that poorly designed?

The UT management is BAD. If you are going to try to get a championship on the cheap at least fix some of the key weaknesses.

dhsalum

I'm a big fan of rivalries and a big of David Stern. I hate the lakers, and I am confident they will lose to the Celtics. Of course I wish the Jazz were at this level, but I (and apparently everybody else too) have no idea how to get them to that level when stars do not want to come here. Look how teams like SA, Cleveland and Orlando got where they are--the number 1 pick in the draft. How did miami win their championship--Shaq wanted to go there. the lakers and celtics have traded for superstars somehow... I just wish the Jazz could luck into one of these stars sometime soon

steve

From 1946 to today there has only been 15 different champions.5 teams with only 1.so that means only 5 teams have won more than once.so there are reasons y there have been 5 teams winning more than 2 times.large markets,a trade to large markets,and before 1958 there were 8-10 teams.from 1970 on it's been la,boston,chicago,detroit,spurs.the spurs are the exception.they are in a small market but have won 4,thanks to Duncan.and it's easy to say that winning it all,takes little luck,skill,and it's basically,darn hard to do..look at the Knicks,they only won twice,since 73.since 1946..15 teams who haven't.the Jazz have been competitive since 84.the Suns haven't won either.@ no other team in the league can say they have had 1 season below 500 in the last 26 years. NONE..Here's a fact.if the Jazz haven't been doing this for 26 years,they probably be in Anaheim,tampa bay,Pittsburgh,or Louisville.so having an egg in the basket's = basketball-in S.L.C.

Jazzsmack


The only thing that will ever change things like this, (same with baseball)

is a HARD cap.


As long as you have Big City teams that can throw around BIG money,

this will continue to happen.

unless you can get lucky in the draft and get a TIm Duncan who will stay with small market team.


The Jazz drafting mediocre players is NOT the answer.

unless all you are interested in is maintaining good regular seasons.,

good for business,
NOT good for winning championships.

Ricardo Carvalho

Most sport is this way. Look at who dominates the soccer scene in Europe year in and year out.

steve

y do the Jazz draft in the 20's all the time.Wining to much.Take the Hawks,they haven't won since they were in St.Louis.And this year there two or three best coach they have had, gets fired for improving to 53 wins this year,and stumbles against a good Orlando team.HE'S Gone..u here if u keep ur maintenance on your car,u get more miles,years for u to keep it.Frank Layden is the blame.Keeping the game plan in the front office @ patience,with steady observation of growth,of players.question.how can a team have 3 top 10 draft picks in 31 years,do so well??Sticking with a game plan..stray from it,@ your out of business,and having the joy of watching a team grow.from 79 to now has been all that.Thanks Frank,Larry, Sam Basttistone,Jerry.Ive never heard wining is not what fans,teams want. Ask the warriors,clips,nets,bulls,knicks,76ers,kings,t-wolfs,see if there media would think.they would drool to be in the win column,every year..

dhsalum

I'm a big fan of rivalries and a big of David Stern. I hate the lakers, and I am confident they will lose to the Celtics. Of course I wish the Jazz were at this level, but I (and apparently everybody else too) have no idea how to get them to that level when stars do not want to come here. Look how teams like SA, Cleveland and Orlando got where they are--the number 1 pick in the draft. How did miami win their championship--Shaq wanted to go there. the lakers and celtics have traded for superstars somehow... I just wish the Jazz could luck into one of these stars sometime soon

Bugoff

DET did win one championship with mostly blue collar no names. After they won they were big names.

On most teams some of the big names are way over paid. They may score but they are not efficient or they don't play defense. Everybody focuses on their fancy shots.

Sloan has the right philosophy on maximizing the efficiency. At UT it need some modification in practice.

UT has 17 mill tied up in AK and 12 mill in Boozer. AK is a good player but not worth the max. Boozer is redundant with Millsap who costs about 6 mill a year now.

If you redeploy the 29 million tied up in AK and Boozer into fixing the problems with effective cheap Vets and younger players who will become all stars you can compete. You probably will not be able to hold the team together after you win but you can at least win one.

You are never going to amass more "stars" than LA. You beat LA by functioning better than LA. Get the quality and fix the weaknesses. You do not have to have Bosh/James/Wade etc. You do need an effective PF/C/SF.

Bugoff

After reviewing the defensive ratings of some of the FAs, if the Jazz were to add Ty Thomas at SF and Hayward at C it would go a long ways toward beating LA. Millsap is good enough at PF with Thomas/AK backing up.

CJ can back up Mathews. Fes/Koufos can back up Hayward as they develop.

Thomas and Hayward also have good WP48 scores and do not cost a mint. They rebound, score at a reasonable rate and defend.

That replaces Boozer and does not count on Okur.

There would be some contribution from the draft pick Udoh, Whitesides or whoever.

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