Comments about ‘GOP moderates' influence under siege in Utah state Legislature’

Is this the kind of government Utah CITIZEN'S want? All these party politics does is point fingers and blame others for their hand in corruption. Government is not for lobbyist, education, or any special interest, its for the people and the economy. So far these party games have proven to enhance corruption and misdirection in their duties to The People.

Utah needs representatives who will represent the voters and citizens, not welfare and personal vendetta's. Right wing, left wing, republican, democrat government is immaterial, its how they do their job as representatives and upholding the constitution that matters. Instead of government having a shotgun narrow minded agenda, the agenda has to be broad and decisive.

It's time to end finger pointing and special interest government that has become too socialist.

The Moderates want to have it both ways. Unfortunately, they portray themselves as martyrs. Naming their "Caucus" the Reagan Caucus is about as historically inaccurate as you can get. Reagan was not a moderate. Moderates vote with the democrats enough that they ought to join that party. A prime example of a "moderate" was Arlen Spector. A liberal/Progressive RINO. He joined the democrats for all the good it did him. He showed his true stripes when he changed. He was no moderate. Any more than most of the Utah State Legislature "Moderates" are anything but.

You have to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. That perfectly describes Moderates.

The State of Utah is not well served by this swing to the far right fringes. We really need more moderates, not fewer.

I really worry that the radical extremistss are the ones who will be re-districting Utah as a result of the 2010 census. We've been gerrymandered badly enough as it is. We don't need then impairing fair representation even more than they already have.

Enough is enough. It's time to kick the extremists out next November, and don't elect any more.

Why is it that when those who call themselves 'moderates' lose, everyone who opposed them are somehow 'hard-liners, extreme, arch conservatives' etc.

Being truly moderate means compromising on how to reach the same end. It does not mean compromising on what is an acceptable end.

Moderates, Conservatives, and Liberals all have the same opportunity to have their voices heard. Don't whine when the public no longer buys what you are selling. Your voice is not being silenced, you just have ideas that arent' working and people know it.

Utahns need to fight back against the conservative crazies. If you don't, you will hate the results.

If you want to see what happens when moderates and Democrats’’ are in control just look at California, Michigan, New York, New Jersey…. Need I say more!!

If you want to see what happens when moderates and democrats’ are in control just look at california, new york, new jersey and other democratically controlled States.

Need I say more!

I guess if I use to many capital letters this would not be posted. Now capital letters are offensive.

If you want to see what happens when moderates and democrats’ are in control just look at california, new york, new jersey and other democratically controlled states.

Need I say more!

I guess this will not be posted if I use to many capital letters. Now capital letters are offensive.

Mr. Bernick is so concerned with: right, left, conservative, liberal, or moderate that he has ignored the vote of the people. He is pretending that the precinct caucuses and convention mean nothing, or that elections don't matter and opinions such as his should be considered more than the people

The reason some legislators are losing their seats in the legislature is because they have failed to represent the people of their district. Mr Bernick and others feel that there should be "balance" and "moderation" instead of the will of the people.

More seats in the legislature will be lost (changed) in Nov. and the reason will be that the voters want legislators that represent them, and have similar ideology. After all isn't this the reason for holding these elections? Perhaps the voters don't want the "moderation" that Mr Bernick would like.

If democrats want to be elected in Utah, I suggest that they rid themselves of the national democratic party Obama millstone that they hang around their necks, and make an effort to represent Utah voters.

Right on...Brer Rabbit

Moderate? Moderate would be good. The problem is that it no longer exists. Liberal is the "new" moderate.

It seems that we have right wing nut jobs, and liberal floozies running our government.

That being said, I know that many of our politicians play the game so that they can be re-elected, but then they try very hard to do the right thing. We can only hope that this is true of the majority of them.

IF the media, the democrats, the republicans, and the tea-party people would seriously analyze the facts and issues instead of constantly playing on everyone's emotions, things would be better. I think that if this were the case the pendulum wouldn't be swinging so far and wide all of the time.

Bob, this is called the "voice of the people." And obviously, the people aren't buying "moderate" thinking.

And to help remind readers, the "moderates" Bob is referring to are those who reach across the aisle and side with Democrats.

If I agree with a person 85% of the time and still vote for them and that makes me a moderate then I am glad to be called a moderate. If I have to have 100% agreement on the issues before I vote for someone then I think that makes me an extremist. How pure does my representative have to be to get my vote? That is what separates an extremist from a moderate. The modern Republican Party is looking for heretics when it should be looking for converts. The big tent is dead. If it continues the way it is headed it will go from being the big tent of Ronald Reagan to being the pup tent party - populated by the two people who can agree on everything.

Utah government is becoming increasingly bizarre and wildly irrational. No one believes in pragmatism any more. Instead, the goal is shout the most bizarre empty things you can think of to excite the mob and then quietly line your own pockets while telling the mob you're doing something for them and that the other side is satanic and should be stripped of all rights to have any voice at all.
It's great from an entertainment standpoint- low theater at its most crass. But as an American, I find it repellent.

Yes, this is the kind of government some of us Utah citizens want! Some of us were not happy with the pro-union lies accepted during the voucher fight as fact. Mark Twain couldn't have written better fiction. Some of us feel we are being assaulted on all sides-accept homosexuality as normal, loosen liquor laws to attract business and tourists, allow "reasonable" sex education in our schools. Enough is enough! I vote for a return to decency and morality, which I do believe you can legislate.

Utah government is becoming increasingly bizarre and wildly irrational. No one believes in pragmatism any more. Instead, the goal is shout the most bizarre empty things you can think of to excite the mob and then quietly line your own pockets while telling the mob you're doing something for them and that the other side is satanic and should be stripped of all rights to have any voice at all.
It's great from an entertainment standpoint- low theater at its most crass. But as an American, I find it repellent.

I am a conservative, not a moderate.

That said, Flashback must believe in slogans rather than analysis. And, I suspect that he lets Rush, Sean, or Glen do his "thinking" for him. They spout slogans; he repeats them; his "thinking" is, apparently, done. Any thoughtful analysis of Arlen Spector's record would very clearly mark him as a moderate.

Is "Flashback" and those like him (or her) really representative of Utah voters. If so, I feel sorry for the State.

To Tami | 10:08 a.m. May 22, 2010

Reverse everything you said 180 degrees, and the truth will be told.

Most of the self described moderates I've ever met either don't really know what they believe or they don't want to offend anyone. Another characteristic I've noticed about self described moderates is that they love to attach unflattering labels to everyone who disagrees with them.

I'm not a right wing extremist. Let's not lose the language here. The Ku Klux Klan are extremist. Black Panthers are extremist (to the left.)

I am a realist. I see what years of compromising with bad ideas has cost the nation. California, that gem, that dynamo, the world's 4th largest economy is bankrupt. Detroit, once the economic giant of America, lies literally in ruins. I want budgets cut, government shrunk, and people to be independent. Is that radical or extreme?

When your house is on fire, you can no longer afford to try to understand the arson's point of view.

Great post, "homers". Those who embrace and blindly follow a candidate or ideology simply because of a label are the least informed and, by definition, the scariest kind of Americans. If we can't listen to and even sometimes agree with fellow Americans who may not be in lock-step with us, we are doomed as a government "of, by and for the people."