Too bad. He's an exciting player who could have contributed a lot the next
couple of seasons. I hope he does well wherever he goes. I think the Cougs will
be OK...plenty of talent.
What? They don't do background checks on their athletes before admitting them to
BYU and giving them a scholarship? Sounds like negligence on Rose's part, if you
Honestly Chris B/hedgehog, as usual, we loyal Cougar fans, are always flattered
by your fascination and obvious affection for all things Cougar. Although many
have speculated about your never-ending enthusiasm for the men of Provo, we
respectfully submit that there is "car wreck" up on the hill that is far more
worthy of your attention as a Utah fan.Yes, we have lost a couple of
outstanding athletes-one of whom will probably be returning (Unga), while coach
Boylen has personally lost four players-none of whom will be returning.And, as per your regular pattern-we thank you for being the very first to
comment on this Cougar article. It is almost like you have a DesNews scanner
that alerts you immediately of any new Cougar sports articles.Again,
we so appreciate your genuine desire to be good neighbor to your Cougar friends
Chris B/Hedgehog: As usual, we loyal Cougar fans, are always flattered by your
fascination and obvious affection for all things Cougar. Although many have
speculated about your never-ending enthusiasm for the teams of Provo, we
respectfully submit that there is more interesting news up on the hill that is
far more worthy of your attention as a Utah fan.Yes, we have lost a
couple of outstanding athletes-one of whom will probably be returning (Unga),
while coach Boylen has personally lost four players-none of whom will be
returning.And, as per your regular pattern-we thank you for being
the very first to comment on this Cougar article. It is almost like you have a
DesNews scanner that alerts you immediately of any new Cougar sports
articles.Again, we so appreciate your genuine desire to be good
neighbor to your Cougar friends and family.
It remains unclear from the article, was Loyd a student at BYU in January of
2009 when he was cited for underage drinking? If he was not then a
student, then he had not yet agreed to live the honor code, and so he could not
yet break it. BYU does not retroactively impose rules on students and punish
them for previous failings.If he had been admitted, he would have
already signed the honor code, but to what extent students are held to its full
rules before admitance is another question.Beyound this, it is the
honor code because it is built around people seeking to live up to its
requirements. Background checks would be the anti-thesis of it.Lastly, these are crimes. They are violations of the law. Are people out
demanading that other colleges and universities do background checks on their
The article stated that it was NOT an honor code issue. It kind of sounds like
they just weren't getting along. Also, I believe it states that the legal
troubles were WHILE he was at BYU and NOT BEFORE he enrolled. In that case,
running a security check wouldn't have turned anything up. Just Sayin'.
Thank you Chris B for you insight, but, if I were a Utah fan whose best friend
played for the U, I'd be more worried about the U finishing closer to .500 than
Unfortunately for Loyd, it's looking more and more like Coach Rose was right
about having Michael leaving the team.It's too bad that he wasn't
more committed to doing what he knew that he was supposed to be doing. Loyd has
lots of potential, but he's throwing away golden opportunities because of
personal issues that he seems unable or unwilling to address.Hopefully, this will be a wakeup call to Michael.
I can't even believe there is a story about this! Seriously who hasn't been
cited for a speeding ticket, and if they haven't, I can count at least 90% of
the people on the roads everyday that should be. The other matter should never
have been brought up either because half of the kids under 21 should be cited
for this as well, they just haven't been caught. I know kids that are going to
BYU next year that are doing this now and have been for awhile. I see this as a
chance to throw Mike under the bus and it's embarrassing that anyone would stoop
this low. It doesn't have anything to do with anything. Don't even bring up the
honor code either, almost everyone attends could be kicked out with that thing!
Chris BA young man has legal issues, and you find joy in it? This
goes past the game and deals with real life issues that could eventually hurt
this young mans future, and it makes you happy?Loyd had already left
BYU, so today's news does not affect the program. Where does your sense of joy
come from?If things like this, and a wishing a .500 year from a
school with 10 wins in the past four years is what it takes to make you happy, I
seriously suggest you find another hobby. Get a job, take some classes, get a
girlfriend... get a life.I would hate to be where you are now.Michael. Good luck getting your life figured out. You have so much
ability to let it go to waste. Find yourself a place to play the game you love
and excel at. Work the academic end, and keep focused on the important
things.I wish you the best at whatever program you land at. You have
the skills. Don't let them go to waste. The NBA is not looking for players with
baggage, but they do give second chances.Good Luck Michael.
Sad story. Best of luck to Michael as he has a lot of talent.I
would hope that the U fans would just stay off of BYU boards and comment on
their own. We should do the same and respect them...
Thanks to the utah fans. After every BYU article they continue to prove Max Hall
I guess a new requirement for keeping the Honor Code will be to have a clean DMV
Harvey will be back next fall. No doubt about it.
It's sad that juvenile Utah fans like Chris B find so much pleasure in the
troubles of one young man.As far as Harvey is concerned, we all know
that the probable reason that Harvey withdrew from BYU, wouldn't have even
raised an eyebrow up on the hill.
Move on, folks. It didn't work out. It's not the end of the world.
Not an honor code violation?? Are you kidding me??
Anyone who says BYU will go .500 next year needs to look at the schedule, it's
not gonna happen. They will win at the very least 7 games. And "Come
On"-- I'm sure there are a lot of people at BYU not living the honor code
exactly but seriously, a lot of people go to BYU because they want to learn and
live in that kind of environment, and they enjoy it. Not everyone is like you,
SoCal, did you even read the article? Or you are commenting on a comment? The
article makes it clear that there were no known honor code violations when the
decision to part ways was made...
Anyone that gets a DUI (for alcohol or drugs) has a longstanding problem. They
need help. What i would like to see is BYU do background checks, checks with
friends/family, ongoing drug testing (urine and blood), and also have the
coaches out and about for curfew checks etc. Take the kids who are at risk and
plunk them down with an NCAA approved "family" whether that be a professional
babysitter resident assistant in the dorms or a real life off campus foster
family who get paid to be mom and dad. These athletes are after all,
professional athletes plain and simple. 'Student athletes' is just jargon for
the title IX masses. The athletes are given scholarships in exchange for
tuition, books, room and board allowances, etc and in return they are to
represent the school they play for. in the case of BYU or any other school they
also represent the honor code of that given school. BYU's honor code happens to
stricter than most. the players are thus getting PAID TO PLAY. thus they are
professional athletes. so let's expect what any employer would expect of their
employee in a contract.
This saga reminds me of the drinking incident with which Mendenhall was faced.
Only after the kid played five games and news of the incident was disclosed by
the media did Mendenhall stand tall and kick him off the team. Now,
at the conclusion of the basketball season, we have Coach Rose
saying..."speeding?" "Possession?" "Drunk driving?" I...I had no idea. "Loyd,
you're gone cuz this is BYU and we don't tolerate such behavior."I'm
sorry coach Mendenhall, Coach Rose, and BYU...I'm not buying it.
This story should not be surprising to anyone with half a brain. Why wouldn't Loyd have had something to hide?? He saw what happened with Unga
and got out of Provo while the going was good. And yet everyone
here was naive enough to believe it was about playing time behind Jimmer? After
a year of riding the bench already? Are you kidding me? I hope all
you people on here who pretended to be sympathetic to Loyd just because he
played on BYU's basketball team are eating your words now.
I am personally offended at these folks who play fast and loose with the
personal integrity of coaches etc. Would you appreciate clueless people calling
you liars and worse. Easy for you to slander a coach you never have to look in
the eye. How would you like to apply for a job and have a background check full
of lies about YOUR honesty and integrity. I suggest those who find it easy to
accuse Rose and others of lies and cover-ups get some personal integrity and
just imagine yourself in their shoes. I have had folks spread falsehood and lies
about my integrity and morals. I even had to warn my wife this stuff was
happening. I am in high elected office in my community and a long-time
respected businessman and Latter-day Saint as well. Yet folks still spread lies
and slander my character. When I spoke with the Chief of Police he just laughed
because he knows me well and advised me to just ignore the lies. I have a dear
friend in high position at BYU who has been victim on the internet of slander
and character assassination and who is defenseless.
A positive article that shows there are no honor code Danites, or honor code
officers who monitor BYU Students and student athletes. I'm glad to read the
facts about BY univertsity's good faith trust which it extends to all its
students, staff, and faculty unless the individuals publicize otherwise.
The speeding tickets I can overlook. The Alcohol violations and the drug
charges I can't. It's was best for all concerned when he left.