Until voices of reason and moderation step up, the Republican Party has been
co-opted by extremists, with the result that the party will be pushed further to
the margins. Think McCarthy. Think totalitarian. Think loss of freedoms.
The utah republican party as Steve knows it is dead, replaced with people who
actually think for a change. For politicians that thought they were going to be
rubber stamped through--think again!! We are tired of fools being elected in
simply because they are the Republican candidate. If we can get truer
representatives of the people in, it has to be during the caucuses. That is
what happened this year Steve, so get used to being ACCOUNTABLE for a change.
That is what the new Republican party represents, and is reason you should be
afraid.
Met in the old mission home in SLC
forty-three years ago.
One went to Germany, the other to England.
Never saw each other again until they met in the Lee hospitality suite at the
Salt Palace on Saturday, May 8th.
Both wearing "I Like Mike" tee
shirts, one bright yellow, the other dark blue. Still playing for the "same
team" after all those years.
Spent the day together at the GOP
convention getting caught up.
Neither a tea partier, neither a
9/12er, neither a "right-wing extremist nut," both about as mainstream
Republicans as it comes, both concerned citizens who got elected as delegates to
retire Bob Bennett simply because he was too old and both thought it was time
for new blood in the same Good Old Party they have each belonged to for
forty-three years.
There are more of us than there are of them.
But we just don't make scintillating headlines because we're both
boring old guys who are neither bitter, angry or raving lunatics.
In the runup to the 2012 election it's time to make a beginning.
Well said, Steven Mascaro. I also hope the Republican Party can be found soon.
The entity that is now pretending to be the Republican Party is a travesty.
Um standing up to the right wing ideologues is a bad idea. Why? Oh I don't
know....maybe because the right wing ideologues are actually constitutionally
based?
Rep Mascaro couldn't have said it better. I am thinking maybe we need to just
start a new party or encourage the main populace to forget about both major
parties and vote independent. The system is too polarized right now. Most have
forgotten that the constitution is a document of compromise. We wouldn't even
be a country today if this kind of attitude existed in 1775 and 1776.
There is a time to embrace differences and there is a time to recognize that the
great problems that America is facing were caused by people of good principle
being too accommodating to people of low morals.
How can people
compromise on abortion?
How can people compromise on marriage?
How can people compromise on non-authorized bills passed in Congress?
It seems that the left is moving full steam ahead with no intention of
"compromise". They expect Republicans to sacrifice their honor and their
principles.
People of honor have tolerance, but they don't compromise
their honor or their integrity or their principles just to be seen as being
"open minded". There is right and there is wrong. Only a fool would think that
choosing wrong is a worthy price to pay for popularity.
The Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln. The party that saved
the union from division in 1860s is dividing the country in the 2010s. I was
once a member, a precinct chair, and a state and county delegate. They lost my
service, my membership, and my vote.
There is no more Utah Republican Party, that died with the BIG CRASH of 2008,
and since The Tea Party movement took over and kicked the phony Utah Republican
Party out, and did all but tar and feather them then run them out of Utah on a
rail, with their "golden rail road spike" taken back, sold, then given to the
people, they forgot all about. There are THOSE that have and those that have
more, those are the ones only when they copy words off of the Glenn Beck's and
Rush Limbaugh's of the planet we wonder which entitlement programs they are
referring to?. Social Security and Medicare. We normal people should feel we
are entitled to it. It ALWAYS appears their agenda is to balance the budget at
the expense of hard-working Americans like us. Then they pad Bill's with pork
and keep that quiet. While they run around the planet to a ugly pants contest
at some five star resort for a Vegetarian Cinco de Mayo dinner, drinks and
socializing., in a political system out of touch with the public, and in touch
with special interest only. That's where THEY went.
Elect a democrat to that seat and watch the republican party come screaming
back. Let these extremists know that you wont allow them to take over the GOP.
Today's mood is a backlash against fiscal liberalism that ruined the Republican
party.
Many in the Republican party got tired of the endless
compromises that evolved the party into meaninglessness. George Bush, John
McCain, Bennett, and company compromised their way right out of popularity in
their own party, the biggest mistake of which is huge Federal deficits that
Conservatives simply cannot tolerate.
I think the party is being
refreshed and rejuvenated. November will tell.
I find it ironic that the current republicans would never even nominate, let
alone elect Ronald Reagan, he was far more moderate (i.e. "liberal") than they
are now.
They're going to continue to lose because they have no room
for a moderate conservative. You have to be nearly Nazi to fit in with current
repubs. Moderates like myself have to move to the democratic party to find a
place.
LDS Newsroom ~, ...the Book of Mormon tells a sober story of civilizational
decline in which various peoples repeat the cycle of prosperity, pride and fall.
In almost every case, the seeds of decay begin with the violation of the simple
rules of civility. Cooperation, humility and empathy gradually give way to
contention, strife and malice.
The need for civility is perhaps most
relevant in the realm of partisan politics. As the Church operates in countries
around the world, it embraces the richness of pluralism. Thus, the political
diversity of Latter-day Saints spans the ideological spectrum. Individual
members are free to choose their own political philosophy and affiliation.
Moreover, the Church itself is not aligned with any particular political
ideology or movement. It defies category. Its moral values may be expressed in a
number of parties and ideologies.
Furthermore, the Church views with
concern the politics of fear and rhetorical extremism that render civil
discussion impossible.
The Republican party is where it's always been. They have been clear and
consistent in their economic policies. These are policies that brought down our
financial system, have led the largest shift in wealth in American history to
the already richest among us. Now that their "government is the problem"
philosophy has proven to be an utter failure, intelligent, sentient people have
left the party and only the crazy no-nothings remain.
Mike Richards | 7:58 a.m. May 11, 2010: "...the great problems that America
is facing were caused by people of good principle being too accommodating to
people of low morals."
Because I disagree with your politics I am a
person of "low morals"?? Really?
Please come down off your high
horse, stop pontificating, judging and sneering, and try living in the rational,
real world for a while.
I totally agree. We need to do more and stand up to the right wing ideologues.
Serious?
Until voices of reason and moderation step up, the Republican Party has been co-opted by extremists, with the result that the party will be pushed further to the margins. Think McCarthy. Think totalitarian. Think loss of freedoms.
The utah republican party as Steve knows it is dead, replaced with people who actually think for a change. For politicians that thought they were going to be rubber stamped through--think again!! We are tired of fools being elected in simply because they are the Republican candidate. If we can get truer representatives of the people in, it has to be during the caucuses. That is what happened this year Steve, so get used to being ACCOUNTABLE for a change. That is what the new Republican party represents, and is reason you should be afraid.
The story of two delegates:
Met in the old mission home in SLC forty-three years ago.
One went to Germany, the other to England. Never saw each other again until they met in the Lee hospitality suite at the Salt Palace on Saturday, May 8th.
Both wearing "I Like Mike" tee shirts, one bright yellow, the other dark blue. Still playing for the "same team" after all those years.
Spent the day together at the GOP convention getting caught up.
Neither a tea partier, neither a 9/12er, neither a "right-wing extremist nut," both about as mainstream Republicans as it comes, both concerned citizens who got elected as delegates to retire Bob Bennett simply because he was too old and both thought it was time for new blood in the same Good Old Party they have each belonged to for forty-three years.
There are more of us than there are of them.
But we just don't make scintillating headlines because we're both boring old guys who are neither bitter, angry or raving lunatics.
In the runup to the 2012 election it's time to make a beginning.
We did.
You can too.
Believe it.
Well said, Steven Mascaro. I also hope the Republican Party can be found soon. The entity that is now pretending to be the Republican Party is a travesty.
Um standing up to the right wing ideologues is a bad idea. Why? Oh I don't know....maybe because the right wing ideologues are actually constitutionally based?
Rep Mascaro couldn't have said it better. I am thinking maybe we need to just start a new party or encourage the main populace to forget about both major parties and vote independent. The system is too polarized right now. Most have forgotten that the constitution is a document of compromise. We wouldn't even be a country today if this kind of attitude existed in 1775 and 1776.
There is a time to embrace differences and there is a time to recognize that the great problems that America is facing were caused by people of good principle being too accommodating to people of low morals.
How can people compromise on abortion?
How can people compromise on marriage?
How can people compromise on non-authorized bills passed in Congress?
It seems that the left is moving full steam ahead with no intention of "compromise". They expect Republicans to sacrifice their honor and their principles.
People of honor have tolerance, but they don't compromise their honor or their integrity or their principles just to be seen as being "open minded". There is right and there is wrong. Only a fool would think that choosing wrong is a worthy price to pay for popularity.
The Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln. The party that saved the union from division in 1860s is dividing the country in the 2010s. I was once a member, a precinct chair, and a state and county delegate. They lost my service, my membership, and my vote.
Good letter.
There is no more Utah Republican Party, that died with the BIG CRASH of 2008, and since The Tea Party movement took over and kicked the phony Utah Republican Party out, and did all but tar and feather them then run them out of Utah on a rail, with their "golden rail road spike" taken back, sold, then given to the people, they forgot all about. There are THOSE that have and those that have more, those are the ones only when they copy words off of the Glenn Beck's and Rush Limbaugh's of the planet we wonder which entitlement programs they are referring to?. Social Security and Medicare. We normal people should feel we are entitled to it. It ALWAYS appears their agenda is to balance the budget at the expense of hard-working Americans like us. Then they pad Bill's with pork and keep that quiet. While they run around the planet to a ugly pants contest at some five star resort for a Vegetarian Cinco de Mayo dinner, drinks and socializing., in a political system out of touch with the public, and in touch with special interest only. That's where THEY went.
I saw this train-wreck coming 20 years ago.
The wooden stake went straight through the heart of the GOP when they let Rush Limbaugh become their figure-head and spokesperson.
I'm done,
I'm out,
I've been voting for the individual person ever since...
Elect a democrat to that seat and watch the republican party come screaming back. Let these extremists know that you wont allow them to take over the GOP.
Today's mood is a backlash against fiscal liberalism that ruined the Republican party.
Many in the Republican party got tired of the endless compromises that evolved the party into meaninglessness. George Bush, John McCain, Bennett, and company compromised their way right out of popularity in their own party, the biggest mistake of which is huge Federal deficits that Conservatives simply cannot tolerate.
I think the party is being refreshed and rejuvenated. November will tell.
Republicans ARE the Tea Party.
I find it ironic that the current republicans would never even nominate, let alone elect Ronald Reagan, he was far more moderate (i.e. "liberal") than they are now.
They're going to continue to lose because they have no room for a moderate conservative. You have to be nearly Nazi to fit in with current repubs. Moderates like myself have to move to the democratic party to find a place.
LDS Newsroom ~, ...the Book of Mormon tells a sober story of civilizational decline in which various peoples repeat the cycle of prosperity, pride and fall. In almost every case, the seeds of decay begin with the violation of the simple rules of civility. Cooperation, humility and empathy gradually give way to contention, strife and malice.
The need for civility is perhaps most relevant in the realm of partisan politics. As the Church operates in countries around the world, it embraces the richness of pluralism. Thus, the political diversity of Latter-day Saints spans the ideological spectrum. Individual members are free to choose their own political philosophy and affiliation. Moreover, the Church itself is not aligned with any particular political ideology or movement. It defies category. Its moral values may be expressed in a number of parties and ideologies.
Furthermore, the Church views with concern the politics of fear and rhetorical extremism that render civil discussion impossible.
Do away with parties altogether and vote independents into public office.
The Republican party is where it's always been. They have been clear and consistent in their economic policies. These are policies that brought down our financial system, have led the largest shift in wealth in American history to the already richest among us. Now that their "government is the problem" philosophy has proven to be an utter failure, intelligent, sentient people have left the party and only the crazy no-nothings remain.
Mike Richards | 7:58 a.m. May 11, 2010:
"...the great problems that America is facing were caused by people of good principle being too accommodating to people of low morals."
Because I disagree with your politics I am a person of "low morals"?? Really?
Please come down off your high horse, stop pontificating, judging and sneering, and try living in the rational, real world for a while.
You defintely need it.
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