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Published: Thursday, May 6 2010 12:00 a.m. MDT

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johnjacobs99

Wow. Why all the negativity against Bennett? It seems like the extremists are running both parties. Lately it has been all or nothing. What happenned to mainstream and compromise?

myturn

Senator Bennett should fight for everything he is worth for re-election. Missing a few routine votes now could pay big dividends for Utahns for the next six years. If he is able to make his case, many reasonable delegates who carefully consider Senator Bennett's conservative record and experience may wonder if now is really the time for inexperience.

The Club for Growth has been almost single handedly more effective in defeating Republican Senators and replacing them with Democrats than all the liberal interest groups put together.

They are a destructive special interest group of the worst kind who take statements and events out of context and distort the truth. No matter how conservative you are, a simple review of their website shows that this group is willing to do and say anything, without any concern for the truth to further their end game and questionable agenda.


goatesnotes

Knock, knock, anybody there? The Club for Growth is having very little if any impact on the delegates, and Senator Bennett's efforts are having even less. Most delegates with whom I have spoken are supporting either Mike Lee or Tim Bridgewater. And, believe it or not, those delegates who aren't supporting Senator Bennett are reasoned and thoughtful for the most part, not the radical extremists most in the media want you to believe. I've never heard so much hyperbole in the run up to a convention as I have this year. There's a really simple reason Bennett will be defeated -- the delegates believe his opponents are better qualified this year than he is, and all the pressure in the world won't sway many from their positions, certainly not me.

facts_r_stubborn

People don't realize just how critical this moment in history is. No matter how good a new Senator may be one day be, Utah will lose influence now if we dump a senior Senator.

It's not over. Greece is in sovereign bankruptcy. The contagion is spreading to Portugal, next Spain, then Italy and possibly even the U.K. This could well cause a severe double dip recession in the U.S. as well.

8 million jobs have been lost in the U.S. and the federal deficit looms. However, failure to stabilize financial institutions would have been exponentially worse. I have seen the economic projections had we failed.

Political delays to intervention in Greece have doubled the taxpayer tab there since January. In Greece, $100 billion is a lot of salad.

Forgetting Obama's excess, Bennett's vote for the original TARP prevented a global depression. I'm all for creative destruction and free markets, but that kind of pain would jeopardize our freedom and our ability to defend our nation. It would have taken well more than two decades to recover, cost the taxpayer trillions more, and the job loss and economic decline unfathomable.

facts_r_stubborn

goatesnotes,

I won't break Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment like so many conservatives on these threads have. I'm sure a few of the challengers are very capable and qualified individuals in whatever professions or business they have been involved with.

Having said that, no matter how smart and capable someone is, there is usually some learning curve on a new job. That seems to just be common sense, but I suppose there is little common sense in politics.

Perhaps one of these challengers will be the next Senator from Utah, and certainly the time for change will come, sooner or later.

Having said that with the Republicans poised to take control of the Senate this year, Utah needs to be a player in reversing the excesses of the Obama administration and a Democrat Congress that is spending our children's future financial security at an alarming rate.

A freshman Senator, no matter how much potential he/she has can't deliver on that promise now. Only a conservative Senator with signficiant clout as Chairman of Banking and senior on Approprations can bring the kind of change we need.

Now when it really counts, delegates support Senator Bennett.

JMT

John Jacobs, we have tried the "mainstream and compromise" you suggest. $110 Trillion of debt and obligation later, here we are. It doesn't work.

One party is absolutely dedicated to expanding government power and expense at every turn. Compromise with this means that we only grow government at half the rate. So it takes us twice as long to get there but in the end we are there. And the there is European style socialism.

If you want that then climb out front and campaign for it. If you don't then at some point it is a matter of digging in your heels and saying no more.

When Bob Bennett got into office the total debt and obligation was around $40 trillion. He has voted for almost every part of the next $70 Trillion worth of I.O.U.'s. How much more do you want to "compromise"?

I'm all out of "compromise" on this one. Vote the guy out of office!

facts_r_stubborn

Healthcare is another issue where well meaning and principled but misinformed conservatives have attacked Senator Bennett for the Bennett/Wyden bill.

Let's look at the reality, healthcare costs themselves. Republicans should not live up to Democrat's characterization of them as the party of "no." We actually have a better, market based and state regulated way to address the cost of healthcare.

Health care costs have risen from 11% of gross domestic product during the Reagan administration to 18% today ane 20% within five years. One out of five dollars in the U.S. is spent on health care. Tax is not the only tax. Health care costs are killing the American Dream and eliminating the middle class in this nation. Medicare and medicaid will bankrupt this nation within 20 years if nothing is done to change our current trajectory.

The Bennett/Wyden bill was not a finished product but a template for debate and market based solutions which won bipartisan support. It was lauded by the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation as a big step forward, a starting place for a market state based plan.

Mark my words, these are the facts.

goatesnotes

I have one question for you, "facts" -- will you still be using the same tired argument for Senator Bennett six years from now when he's 83 years old? Your plea to delegates is falling on deaf ears.

T. Party

Let's conserve the Constitution, and stop conserving Bailout Bob's campaign contributors.

@facts_r_stubborn: the scare rhetoric you employ is the same kind of rhetoric that was used to justify bailouts of the same institutions over and over again since Clinton. "If you don't bail us out, the sky will fall." Goldman Sachs was bailed out five different times before anyone even heard of TARP.

Put all banks on an honest footing, and then watch how fast the recovery takes place.

Bailout Bob's way is to try so hard to avoid the pain, it ends up being protracted for years.

facts_r_stubborn

JMT,

I don't know where you are pulling your figures from but you better double check your sources. What debt are you refering to at $110 trillion?

Total gross domestic product for 2009 was only $14.2 trillion. Total domestic public debt at the end of 2009 was $12 trillion. This is extremely troubling never the less.

You lose credibility with your conclusion when your numbers are bogus. Don't paint with such a broad brush. Talk to people who know the facts, or learn them yourself. Details do matter in the conclusions we reach.

Senator Bennett voted against Obama care, against Obama stimilus, against Obama budget, against Obama taxes and against Obama spending. He most certainly has not voted for $70 trillion of IOUs.

facts_r_stubborn

goatesnotes,

With all due respect, you speak for all delegates now? I just call it the way I see it. I firmly and sincerely believe, that now is not the time to punt Utah's influence and power to other states. You believe otherwise and that is fine. Am I not entitled to my opinion? At least I attempt to ground my opinions with verified facts, unlike most of the wild rhetoric on these threads.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is re-elected this year, that Senator Bennett retires in six years. We'll just have to wait and see if he is re-elected this time.

facts_r_stubborn

goatesnotes, one more rhetorical point:

Ears work better when they are not deaf.

Cats

I didn't like the TARP vote either. BUT...as someone who has spent a lot of my life on Capitol Hill in Washington, I can tell you that SENIORITY REALLY COUNTS!!! IT REALLY DOES!

Everyone who wants to dump Bob Bennet better think about this really hard. SENIORITY REALLY DOES COUNT FOR A LOT. We would be losing a lot of clout in Washington.

PLEASE, really think about it!

Forrest

Let's take a look at what the "seniority" of Utah's senators has gotten us: NOTHING.

facts_r_stubborn

T. Party,

Think of it this way. Who would have thought that the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico would have hurt duck hunters in North Dakota?

These are not scare tactics these are the facts. Don't believe me, talk to the experts. Here is one to check out: Spain will be attempting to float $30 billion of debt this Friday. Whether or not they succeed could have big implications for how far and fast the contagion spreads.

Take the financial crisis of 2008. The problems started at Fannie and Freddie emboldened by Congressional Democrats to relax underwriting standards to push home ownership leading to a housing bubble. Financial markets were within days of a total collapse.

It started in the sub-prime market and lower traunches of mortgage backed securities spreading to senior traunches, and eventually to almost all sectors of financial markets and even to short term supposedly "safe" commercial paper.

Ask almost any business man, or retirement fund manager what a total collapse of financial markets, (i.e. no access to capital),would have meant for the main street economy.

Sorry to bust anyone's bubble, but this wasn't a bailout.

owlmaster2

If I missed going to my office 28% of the time I'd be fired.
No employer would put up with that nonsense.

goatesnotes

Sure glad we've got Senator Bennett -- he saved the world. Let's re-elect him!

facts_r_stubborn

T. Party,

Delagates and voters need to make distinctions between the short term intervention in financial markets done by Bush and supported by almost every Senator, and the partisan new wasteful spending of TARP funds and new social programs initiated by the Obama administration and Congressional Democrats.

During Bushes term only about $245 billion was committed to stabilization of financial markets. A resolution trust corporation or asset guarantees would have been preferable both structurally and politically, but because the markets for these assets was totally inactive, direct capital infusions became the only viable option. It was necessity and not bailing out budies on Wall Street that caused this to happen.

Bennett had nothing to do with all the wasteful ways Obama spent the remainder of TARP or his new stimilus, and bail outs of GM and Chrysler.

The Bush TARP funds are already 75% paid back with the sale of the taxpayers 27% stake in Citigroup. We need to get out as soon as possible when smaller regional banks pay back the remaining 25%. This was not a government takeover, this was short term intervention. Ugly, but it worked and will be payed back, unlike Obama's initiatives.

tq2

Well, Bennett certainly didn't spend of that time in southern Utah. He lost my vote right there alone.

Commoner

So Bailout Bob missed almost a third of the votes to be here in Utah telling us how critical it is that he be in Washington. If it were that critical, shouldn't he have been in Washington instead of Utah?

The real problem is not only that he missed almost a thrid of the votes, but that when he missed those votes he also wasn't actually working. Regardless of whether the particular votes were important or not, he could have been working on saving this Country from the mess its in -- the mess that was created on his watch.

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