Comments about ‘BYU, Utah Utes football: MWC has a chance to obtain automatic qualifying status’

Afraid that the powers that be will never allow this to happen. More than likely in two years, Utah will be a member of the new PAC-12, BYU and TCU will be a part of the Big XII, while the remnants of the MWC will join the WAC and/or CUSA.

Money talks. Sad, but true.

All I want to know is which computer rankings are going to be used. Are we talking about Sagarin? The computer ranking used in the BCS? All computer rankings combined?

It's all just gobbledegook. Where does the MWC stand today according to this system?

Does New Mexico count? UNLV?

This is all just an attempt to put off the anti-trust investigation by the Justice Department and the possibility of legislation that would break up the BCS. They hope if they let the MWC in, Hatch and others will back off.

I hope this does not stop those efforts. The BCS is an unfair monopoly and it needs to be broken up.

Actually, yes, Utah and Colorado go to the PAC-12+. TCU to the Big12+ (if the Big 12 even exists since Nebraska, Missouri, and possibly others bolt to the Big-10+1+5=16. BYU and the rest of the MWC may be looking around at empty spaces to fill in the conference schedule and be forced to unite with the WAC and Big Easy (EAST).
The fact that the MWC "shares 9.5 million" with all the other non-AQ conferences is a joke. the recruiting suffers automatically. Pres. Obama promised to take on the BSC and i hope his agenda moves forward sooner than later on this. he can get more votes for re-election than trying to make PR the 51st state and declaring amnesty for 30+ million illegal aliens.

Is there consideration to take away one of the automatic bids from a weak conference? During the same study period, are they going to realize that the Big East is pathetic and doesn't deserve an automatic bid?

Of course this formula, particularly the "strength of all schools" part has a hidden bias in it, and that is that larger, BCS schools won't play home-and-home series with the MWC, so MWC teams are at a disadvantage.

I dont know why people say Utah is going to the Pac10. My info keeps saying byu will go to the pac 10 in June and leave Utah in the dust.

Hey BYUHOCKEY how about saving your mormon politic comments for the politics page thanks...

For the past couple of years the MWC has followed the formula of "play high profile teams for the out of conference schedule" thus you have Wyoming playing Tennessee and Texas, BYU playing Oklahoma, Utah going against Michigan, and every other team constantly trying to make their out of conference schedule more difficult. But these games, even if the MWC teams win, don't count for anything in the criteria mentioned in this article. While they may lead to a higher ranking, at the end of the day, it is all about wins. Victories are what will both move you up the rankings and look good in computer calculations.

So perhaps the MWC should follow the Bosie State model, i.e., schedule one significant game all year, preferably on your home field, and then use the rest of year as basically practice games to get ready for the bowl game.

I think Thompson, as usual, has lead the conference astray on this point. And if he wants to get them into the BCS and has known about this criteria all along, they why have they pursued the "schedule-up" strategy? Especially for teams like WY, NM, SDSU, etc.

Pretty soon Utah will be playing in bcs game almost every year. As soon as we jump to the Pac 10, we'll likely go 12-1 or 11-2 every year, which will put in prime position to play in a BCS game year after year.

Meanwhile tds will be doing nothing.

BCS 3 this year. Mark it down.

Cewgs can thank Utah for putting the conference in this position. Cewgs should be thankful we are so good continually so they can share in the money we bring in.

It would be nice if tds ever could provide some money to the conference, but we all know they'll NEVER be in a bcs game.

The BCS will never share the money. Any change that may come to the futures of BYU or Utah will involve significant major conference realignment. If that realignment does not occur, we will be talking and complaining about this forever. A shifting of conferences that pulls our local teams in (wherever) is the only way we will ever see the money the BCS is hoarding.

First of all I don't see how BYUHOCKEY's comments are "mormon" at all since he appears to like Obama and most Mormon's I know don't. Secondly while being a BCS conference and having a right to more money would be better than the alternative, the real problem is the BCS itself. Even if we do become an AQC the fact remains that the system is still flawed. In order to determine a true champion, we need a tournament.

There is absolutely no new information in this article. It's a slow news day, so the DN feeds us the "BCS inclusion" article. Since we have been conditioned like Pavlov's dogs, we all salivate.

Certainly there has to be something new to talk about in the Utah and BYU football programs. Until there is new BCS news, I would rather talk about the haircuts of the BYU players....

Look at some of these myopic Utah fans that still have no sense. Utah has been fantastic this decade, I would trade for their success any day (despite BYU beating them in heartbreaking fashion on many occasions).

However, while the BCS money brought in by Utah and TCU has been good, BYU has kept their conference afloat for years and years financially with a large sold-out stadium, large TV audience, consistently good football program, and being relevant in other sports besides football and basketball.

That's great news for TCU, BYU and Utah football but it does nothing for every other non bcs conference team, and does nothing to fix the problem

Air Force, BYU, TCU and Utah have all made significant contributions toward the MWC becoming an AQ BCS conference. As the article stated:

"Thanks to the BCS-busting campaigns of Utah in 2008 and TCU in 2009, AS WELL AS BYU's double-digit victories the past two seasons, an automatic BCS berth could be within the MWC's grasp."

Juvenile, myopic Utah fans can beat their chests all they want to, but the reality is the BCS qualification formula includes EVERY MWC team and BYU's double-digit, Top 25 seasons in 2008 and 2009 are every bit as important as Utah's 2008 BCS season.

Before Utah fans mistakenly start spouting off about taking their BCS win with them to the PAC-12, don't forget, the 2008 and 2009 season are already in the books for the MWC and the conference membership is already set for 2010. Adding or losing teams in 2011 will affect 2011.

A conference alignment of Utah and Colorado in the PAC 12, TCU in the Big 12, and BYU and Boise State in the AQ MWC, would actually give BYU a BETTER chance of playing in a BCS game than Utah.

Dear Chris B: Hello "hedgehog". In spite of your new screen name, your writing style and inflated anti-BYU rhetoric betray your real identity.

There are so many flaws in your twisted logic that it is hard to know where to begin. "BCS 3. Mark it down." is the first clue.

It is obvious that you grasp on reality is somewhat shaky if you honestly believe that Utah's once every four years BCS success is the model of consistency totally discounting BYU's four straight ten-win seasons and TCU's most recent successes.

And to even assume that the Yewt's would be anywhere near the top of the PAC-12 for the first decade is totally delusional. More likely down towards the botton with Colorado and Washington State.

Chris/hedgehog, please spare us your personal malices against BYU and delusions of Yewt grandeur and go find a Utah board to post on. Thanks for playing, however.

The formula is a hoax, as the author alludes to. It was fabricated to make it virtually impossible for a non-AQ conference to get memembership in the good-old-boys-club. How does measurement #2 go up without 3# suffering dramatically? Just the fact that the BCS mafia kept "the formula" it under wraps for so long shows how unequitable it is and how nervous they were about it. Remember, folks...it's all about the Golden Rule: "He who has the gold makes the rules."

Madden:

The "why?" has NOT kept the conference afloat. Your "large sold-out stadium" and "large TV audience" benefitted ybU; not the MWC. The ONLY benefit ybU has delivered was their 11-win seasons in 2008 and 2009, because any wins prior to that will not count toward AQ status.

Incidentally, Utah and TCU have more wins [23 each], more BCS bowl appearances [1 each], more Top-10 finishes [TCU-2, Utah-1], a higher W/L pct. over teams from AQ conferences [Utah-0.833, TCU-0.750], and more victories over ranked opponents