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Published: Friday, April 30 2010 10:25 a.m. MDT

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The Politics of Listening

If understood right, "Mexican-Americans are not going to take this lying down"?, who cares about them anyway, they are not the illegal Immigrant's here. The BIG QUESTION should be, in Utah, hhy did not Hatch and Bennett start to "tweaks" their law's to ensure that his version is both legal, and aimed at effectively curbing illegal immigration in Utah before re-election time?. This should of also been done in every state in the country years ago, not just talk about it. I'm happy that Utahns are solidly in favor of putting their own version of Arizona's controversial new immigration statute into law in the Beehive State, seeing all their law maker's ever did for decades was only talk about it, without action and had them all fooled. We all heard last night on Leno, the Gov of CA, beit in Los Angeles or anywhere else in his state, he won't touch these illegals, and deport them, and, he calls himself a Republican?. It's time to play hardball with them all. And not cave into their whines.

GoManUReds

The new AZ law only makes it a state crime to violate the federal law which is already on the books...

Politifact - "The legal scholars we spoke with told us to take a close look at two key sections of Title 8 of the U.S. Code. Section 1304e requires that "every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him." Those who fail to comply will be guilty of a misdemeanor and will be fined $100 and can be imprisoned up to 30 days."

"Section 1306a says that, "Any alien required to apply for registration and to be fingerprinted in the United States who willfully fails or refuses to make such application or to be fingerprinted, and any parent or legal guardian required to apply for the registration of any alien who willfully fails or refuses to file application for the registration of such alien shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall, upon conviction thereof, be fined not to exceed $1,000 or be imprisoned not more than six months, or both."

dustman

We get more illegals from Canada, Russia, and Ireland than from south and central america. we just target hispanics because they look different. our job crisis isn't because of hispanics, its because of big corp's that were irresponsible.

Book of Mormon, Second Nephi, it says all those who come to this land are led by God. In my LDS mission in florida we didn't ask if someone was illegal as a prerequisite to baptism.

As a Native American, I'm sick of laws that target skin color. No blondes or redheads will be approached. This law is discriminatory on its face.

Chris B

Dustman,

You're hilarious. Where did you get your facts that we have more illegals from Canada, Russia, and Ireland?

Guaranteed there are more illegal mexicans from one city in mexico than all your countries listed combined.

This is a fantastic law. I believe the Mormons also teach to "obey the law" is that right? Aren't people to be held accountable for their actions?

Why don't we just let all crimes go unpunished?

Let's get this enacted in Utah, unemployment will drop immediately when we have the guts to shove aside PC garbage and start enforcing our laws.

onceuponatime

Dustman are you sure you have the facts or are just making comments based on rumors you have heard from others who are making alot of money spreading hate and trying to divide the nation into racial groups.

itsjustme

Maybe all of the murderers, rapists, robbers and druggies should all get together and sue Arizona for passing a law that makes their actions a crime.

Makes about as much sense.

MormonConservative

@ dustman | 9:45 a.m.

"Book of Mormon, Second Nephi, it says all those who come to this land are led by God. In my LDS mission in florida we didn't ask if someone was illegal as a prerequisite to baptism."



Your breaking the law of God and Jesus Christ as well as the law's of the land also. If someone was illegal and here they are breaking the law, it's a moral sin, it aids a criminal, and should never be considered a true prerequisite to baptism and ask then forst for US Birth Record's, just to get a mark on your belt, just because you were brealing the law by not turning them into ICE and your local Police Department beforehand there. I believe the Mormons also teach to "obey the law" is that right? Aren't people to be held accountable for their actions?. Do you do that to people in Prison here as well?.

kstep15

Boycott AZ?? Why? I will always go to sunny AZ. Other states should do the same...

Christine

The new law in AZ is ILLEGAL. What part of illegal don't you haters understand?

If you support the new law in AZ you are UnAmerican, and UnPatriotic! Read the constitution.

AZ lawmakers have created a divertion from their BAD economy and so many people are falling for it.

Undocumented immigrants come because they need jobs to survive, companies here hire them because they
need people who will do the jobs (Americans won't).
IT IS A SHARED NEED by both countries.

Drug dealers come to supply a huge American DEMAND. If Mexican didn't do it. People from other nations would. It's just supply and demand. IT IS A SHARED PROBLEM by both countries.

If you think it's simply an issue of braking a law take your blinders off.

If for you this is about hatred and prejudice then it is a reflection on your self and not about TRUTH and YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY!

Christine

All you "conservative Mormons", why do you want to deny other people' civil rights? Why is it ok for you that some American have to prove they are Americans while others don't. (Of couser you are in the don't group!). Look back at your own history! Don't do to others what was done to your ancestors!

When I moved to Utah, I thought Mormons were Christian. Their religion may be but after meeting so many "conservative Mormons" I see that their attitudes and behaviors are not.

I didn't think they would be so prejudiced and racists. I was surprised by that. Of course I met some nice people too, but the majority were the "conservative Mormon" who talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

There is so much hypocricy in the Mormon culture here in Utah. Even from Mormons to other Mormons (who are not white like they)

bilbo

12:25....Once gain, this thread has been perverted into an anti-Mormon bash.
I see no love of Christ in YOUR rantings.
you need to read up on the federal laws.
You listen to Rosie, Behar, Ricky, Shakira and other fonts of liberal intelligence (oxymoronic, eh?) waaaay too much.
The AZ law is a clone of the federal law on the books for many years.
We are NOT talking prevention of baptism here.
These unfortunate, yet opportunistic, peoples KNOW they are breaking the law even as they plan on furtively crossing the border.
Didn't Stephen King write a book about Christine?

jane

I live 8 miles from the border and all the Arizona legislature wants to see happen is an end to ILLEGAL immigration. I don't know any of us who object to anyone's skin oolor or race (Mexican isn't a race, it's a nationality, by the way). We do object to our federal government refusing to enforce its own laws.

Arizona is in serious trouble dealing with nearly 1/8th of our population being here illegally--sapping our educational, medical, welfare and criminal justice systems, demanding citizens' benefits--in Spanish, no less--and yes, taking jobs that our LEGAL residents, need.

Demosthenes

Christine's comments are baseless in fact. Simply applying labels to things and people does not strengthen an argument or make any valid point.

As already pointed out, the Arizona law simply reiterates existing Federal law that dates back to 1940. Everyone entering this sovereign nation must "check in" and carry appropriate documents.

Any supply and demand problem is reduced by reducing either supply or demand. Our porous border encourages supply, and we need to cut it off. Crime statistics in border states support this.

Christine's bigotry is inexcusable in this day and age, and the height of hypocrisy in this context.

LuVePacifica

whats next in 2012 dont know for sure?

Where this is all going sounds like this is even a bigger mess of Problems..GodBless the World~

xscribe

I'd be willing to bet that most of you disobey the "law of the land" every day by speeding when driving a vehicle. You see it every day, how people slam on their brakes when the see a police officer, which means they know they are doing something wrong - breaking the law - but trying to get away with it. Hop of that high horse!

fed up

from my son in Arizona (can't understand the problem with Arizona's immigration law. There has to be "legal contact" before any police officer can request documentation regarding immigration status. So...as a citizen, should I complain about being required to provide identification if/when I am "legally contacted" by the police? I mean, does the hispanic community feel that it should have "diplomatic immunity" based on color of skin?)
No problems with Hispanics, just ILLEGALS!!!!!

wrz

@dustman:

"As a Native American, I'm sick of laws that target skin color. No blonds or redheads will be approached."

Don't worry. The AZ law specifically prohibits anything approaching checking skin or hair color.

"This law is discriminatory on its face."

The AZ law requires that all who law enforcement encounters in official business will be checked. If the check reveals illegal immigration the person will be deported. What could be more fair? Would you prefer federal ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) raid your home or workplace? They can... And have.

wrz

@Christine:

"The new law in AZ is ILLEGAL."

The AZ law essentially parrots the federal law on immigration. If the AZ law is unconstitutional then the federal law is also unconstitutional... and it isn't.

"What part of illegal don't you haters understand?"

We understand the part of "illegal" that says foreigners who come to this country without the requisite permission and paperwork are breaking the law.

fed up

Christina... It is interesting that liberals scream "The new law in AZ is ILLEGAL. What part of illegal don't you haters understand?

If you support the new law in AZ you are UnAmerican, and UnPatriotic! Read the constitution.

this is about hatred and prejudice"
I don't apply all of those labels to you, simply misguided. I have read the constitution. I do understand "illegal" immigration is ILLEGAL. Please remove the hatred, prejudice and venom from your comments. My family contains Phillipinos, hispanics, native americans, blacks and orientals as well as many other nationalities. We love each other. Even so we probably each have some prejudices. But we don't find it necessary to harshly label anyone who disagrees with us.

RichardB

Why is it just Latino and Hispanic groups complaining.

Let the law go into effect, and see if profiling takes place. It's actually written in the law that profiling can't be used.

The President is willing to sit back and let this play out, maybe we all should.

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