Getting back to the topic at hand: Utah Football I think the Utes will do
just fine SportsFan. Even though we have many holes to fill on defense I see no
reason at all that we wont repeat the success of 09'. We have a QB who's one
year wiser, we have an experienced O-line that will help us tremendously and we
have experience at RB. That's three things you boy's WONT have this year. I
believe BYU will struggle not because their breaking in a new QB or because
their thin at RB. It will be because they have a weak o-line. Look at what
happened to Oklahoma last year. If you don't have a line worthy of the name,
even a Heisman winner like Bradford will take hits and struggle.
Okay lets clear up a few things:1. Utah does not owe BYU anythingDespite the snub of BYU's 01' squad, the 04' Utes were hyped up even before
the start of the season. (thanks to our 03' campaign). Having said that though,
I won't deny we had a lot of chips fall into place to get to the fiesta bowl. In
those days, the system only took a non-aq that ranked in the top 6 in the BCS
standings (rather than the top 12 ranking required today). If anything BYU
should be thanking US for the good we've done for the non-big 6 conferences. BYU
talks about BCS but Utah actually makes it there. 2. @ Sports fan
regarding BYU and BSU I think you need to follow your own advice
when you said to be careful what you wish for. If indeed Utah gets into the
Pac-10 and BSU gets invited to the MWC,what makes you think you guys are on par
with them?. All you BYU fans claim BSU is leaps and bounds ahead of Utah but
what about you guys?
@ Utah Alum | 6:44 p.m. April 20, 2010 Marshall and Tulane in the
late 90s are the teams we should be grateful for - not BYU. These were the
teams that put the real pressure on the BcS to change it's policy and allow
non-AQ teams a shot of playing in BcS bowl games.
re: hedgehogActually, hedgehog, it's the other way around. The Utes owe the Cougars a debt of gratitude.Except for the 1996
and 2001 BYU teams putting pressure on the Bowl Alliance, and later, the BCS, to
be more inclusive, a non-AQ team like Utah never would have had an opportunity
to play in a BCS game.
SportsfanSportsfagn"The same rule, will give the MWC
credit for Utah's BCS appearances during the qualifying period, regardless of
whether the Utes leave the MWC or not."So it sounds as if you and
all of Kewgs owe the Utes a lot of gratitude and thanks.. that would seem to be
the "honorable" thing to do.
Not sure how the Cougars will do yet, but for those in Red to start trumpeting
BCS and NC makes me want to bust as gut laughing. Boise State will be about 20
notches higher on the totem pole to start with and Utah ain't gonna catch 'em.
So much for their BCS---right from the beginning.
re: willaryUtah leaving the MWC won't have any affect on the MWC
gaining AQ status. The BcS included a rule several years ago to prevent a
conference from adding another team late in the qualifying period of four
years.Only teams actually in the conference during each of the
qualify years counts.This prevents the MWC from adding Boise State
during the last year of qualifying and receiving credit for Boise State's BcS
appearances.The same rule, will give the MWC credit for Utah's BcS
appearances during the qualifying period, regardless of whether the Utes leave
the MWC or not.btw, the ceiling for BYU is a National
Championship.The ceiling for Utah is a distant 2nd in the AP poll
and 4th in the Coaches (the OFFICIAL poll of the BcS).
"Only a delusional BYU hater would predict a 6-6 season for BYU."Only a delusional BYU fan would actually throw out the possibility of going
11-2 for the upcoming season, like you did SportsFan.@Utah, TCU, FSU
& Air Force. Washington at home to open the season. If you think BYU is only
losing 2 of those games your probably the biggest BYU homer I've ever seen on
these boards...aside from Dick "Cougar Club" Harmon.
Utah 2004 #5/#4 12-0BYU 1996 #5/#5 14-1Quite obviously, the
poll voters didn't see much difference between a 12-0 record and a 14-1
record.I wonder.Would Utah fans rank a MAC team that was
12-0 during the regular season, with no wins against Top 25 team, ahead ofa Utah team that went 11-1 during the regular season, with
wins against #15 Pittsburgh, #10 TCU, and #20 BYU, but a loss on the road to #12
re: SportsFanFYI - If Utah leaves the MWC, that kills any chance of
getting AQ status. The BCS season of 2008 would go with Utah, as would the 13-0
and 10-3 records of the Utes the previous 2 seasons.Considering that
even if the MWC were to add Boise St. with all current pieces in place they
still would not be in a position to be an AQ, if you think losing TCU and Utah
would do the trick you are completely irrational.Think of it this
way. Utah could finish 7-5 and 5th place in the Pac-10 and play in the Vegas
Bowl. And as we've seen, the ceiling for BYU is the Vegas Bowl no matter where
they finish in the MWC.That's pretty sad.
Any predictions for this years UTE team? I see us going 11-2. I hope we can do
better though. This team has a lot of promise. I really cant wait for football
to start up!
True Blue, I really hope (and think) that you are a ute pretending to be a BYU
fan, because I really dont know if I have ever seen such a pitiful attempt at an
argument. Pitiful. If we wanted to discuss the history of BYU
football, we would come over to your articles and discuss them. This is a ute
article. Please escort yourself back to those articles.
Honestly5-7Washington Lose: (With the best QB in the nation WU
will be favored... so your picking an upset?) @Air Force Lose: (
Young BYU defense against a veteran AF offense on the road) @Florida State LOSE (FL St. will expose the athletic gap between the two
programs — not close) Nevada LOSE (I’m guessing
at this point a BYU QB change will have happened — BYU in total disarray )
@Utah State WIN San Diego State WIN @TCU
LOSE (Offense is yet again exposed as pretenders. BYU only scores 2 field goals)
Wyoming WIN UNLV WIN Colorado
State WIN @New Mexico LOSE ( BYU lose in last second) @ Utah
LOSE ( BYU loses by 24 points — Heaps is taken out of the game in
the 2nd quarter
@ TrueBlue | 10:34 a.m. April 20, 2010 "In many ways, what BYU
accomplished in 1996, FAR EXCEEDS what Utah accomplished in 2004"Careful ... you are sounding a lot like an SEC homer or a BCS homer. That is
their classic argument --- a "good" loss in more impressive than a win. A 13-1
or 12-2 season is more impressive than an undefeated season. It seems college
football is the only sport where this argument is accepted and in many cases,
promoted.Facts are: Utah's 2004 undefeated season is more
impressive than BYU's undefeated season. Utah's undefeated 2004 season is more
impressive than any BYU season where they took a loss. And BYU can't match
Utah's undefeated 2008 season.
"When the cream of the crop ( Utah and TCU) leave for a big six conference" ...
BYU and Boise State will quickly become kingpins in the newest BIG SEVEN
conference, the MWC.
re: hedgehogaka utahcountyuteBYU has a tough early
season schedule, especially for a team that will be breaking in alot of new
players, but the Cougars have a good chance of matching Utah's 2009 10-3 record.
The Cougars won't be any worse than 9-4 and could equal their 2007 "rebuilding"
season of 11-2.Utah is no shoo-in to even equal last year's record
of 10-3, let alone win a MWC championship or make it to a BCS bowl.Given Utah's track record during the last 5 years of losing TWICE as many MWC
games as BYU, plus some difficult OOC opponents, Pittsburgh, at New Mexico, at
Iowa State, at Air Force, TCU, at Notre Dame and BYU are all possible losses for
Utah.Utah won't go undefeated with that schedule, so the possibility
of finishing ahead of Boise State, TCU, and even BYU is slim.As they
did in 2007, BYU has the potential to be a legitimate MWC title contender.Only a delusional BYU hater would predict a 6-6 season for BYU.
RE: Sports fan"It really doesn't matter what I think will happen
this year does it?" Just can’t seem to confront and answer the
question can you LOL. Right about now it’s much more comforting to
reminisce about what was (regional mediocrity) as opposed to what will be (this
season). Just wondering, how will a 6-6 record fit into PowerPoint
presentation? Let me guess, it’ll be written off as an anomaly.Not to fear. When the cream of the crop ( Utah and TCU) leave for a big six
conference next year you can continue your destiny of beating up teams know one
College Football Hall of Fame inducteesBYU Gifford Nielsen
(QB), 1994Marc Wilson (QB), 1996Jim McMahon (QB), 1999Steve
Young (QB), 2001LaVell Edwards (Head Coach), 2004Gordon Hudson
(Tight End), 2009Ty Detmer, Chad Lewis, Steve Sarkisian, and others
will soon followUtahNone
re: williaryBe careful what you wish for.Utah moving to
the PAC 10 with Colorado, TCU moving to the Big 12, with BYU and Boise State now
part of the newest AQ BCS conference, the MWC, could easily lead to a scenario
with BYU or Boise State playing in a BCS game every year, while Utah, now a
little fish in a big pond, would likely spend the next 10 years wondering if
they'll ever get to play in the Rose Bowl.Utah may be a done deal;
but the PAC 10 won't expand to 11 teams. It'll either be Utah and Colorado, with
the above scenario, or Utah and BYU.
Colin Cowherd on the radio this morning:"I'm 100% certain that Utah
to the Pac-10 is a done deal."National radio host on ESPN with deep
ties to Pac-10 country.Cougars will keep living in the past, while
Utah moves on to bigger and better things.Just the facts folks.
BYU 1996 14-1 #5/#5 Cotton Bowl ChampionsBYU's bowl opponent
finished, Kansas State, was 9-2 and ranked #14. The Wildcats finished #17 in
both polls with a 9-3 record.BYU played THREE ranked opponents in
1996:at #16/#15 Washington (9-3) 17-29Wyoming #22/#22 (10-2) 28-25
(WAC championship)Kansas State #17/#17 (9-3) 19-15 (Cotton Bowl)and BYU beat Utah at Utah (8-4) 37-17It's easily argueable that
BYU played FOUR opponents in 1996 who were superior to anybody Utah played in
2004.Utah 2004 12-0 #4/#5 Fiesta Bowl Championsthe only
ranked opponent Utah played in 2004 was PittsburghPittsburgh #25/UR
(8-4) 35-7 (Fiesta Bowl) and Utah beat BYU (5-6) at home 52-21In many ways, what BYU accomplished in 1996, FAR EXCEEDS what Utah
accomplished in 2004.BYU did have one loss, on the road to a Top 15
team. BUT the Cougars also had two wins against ranked opponents.Had
the BCS been in place, with the exact same rules that now exist for qualifying,
BYU would have been a lock for a BCS bowl.
re: hedgehoglol at your "good ol' days" hedgehog. Since when
is 2007 considered the "good ol' days"?It really doesn't matter what
I think will happen this year does it? Actual results are the only
thing that really counts.In what Utah fans would consider BYU's last
"rebuilding" year, 2007,replacing John Beck, Jonny Harline, and
Curtis Brownwith Max Hall, Dennis Pitta, and Harvey Ungathe Cougars far exceeded what Utah did in 2009.BYU 2007 11-2,
undefeated MWC championship, #14/#15, beat UtahUtah 2009 10-3, MWC
3rd place, #18/#18, lost to BYU
re: UtesBy5Just curious. How many of those 9 consecutive bowl
winning Utah teams were good enough to finish in the Top 25?Having
mediocre regular seasons, regularly losing conference games, and then beating
mediocre teams in bowls obviously doesn't impress the poll voters that much,
does it?Recount:Top 10 FinishesBYU 4Utah 3BYU #1/#1 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSUtah #2/#4 Sugar Bowl
ChampionsUtah #4/#5 Fiesta Bowl ChampionsBYU #5/#5 Cotton Bowl
ChampionsBYU #7/#7 Holiday Bowl ChampionsUtah #10/#8 Freedom Bowl
ChampionsBYU #18/#10 Copper Bowl ChampionsNational
ChampionshipsBYU 1Utah 0Top 25 FinishesBYU 17Utah 6Current Streak of Top 25 FinishesBYU
4Utah 2Bowl GamesBYU 28Utah 15Ranked Bowl Opponents (final poll)BYU 17Utah 4National Individual AwardsBYU 15Utah 0BYU1 Heisman1 Doak Walker (nation's best running back)4 Davey
O'Brien (nation's best quarterback)2 Outland (nation's best interior
lineman)7 Sammy Baugh (nation's best passer)Utah0
national individual awards
Too bad for everyone else Heeps is so dang good.
RE:football43 | ( TDS troll)It’s just a little bit
easier to talk about the BCS when we’ve actually BEEN to multiple BCS
games THIS DECADE and won them all. We speak from recent experience. I would
assume most Kewgar fans posting on these articles where not even born the last
time BYU had anything of national significance to be proud about.
RE: SportsFan |You keep dodging the question by talking about the
"good ol' days". The question is, do you honestly believe BYU can match Utah's
"rebuilding" year ( 2009) next season??Crickets Crickets Crickets
To: SportsFan, BluCoug and BlueCoug (all the same person!)... thanks for the
entertainment and meaningless information.Here's a little more
information:Top 10 finishes:BYU 3Utah 3Top 5 finishes:BYU 2Utah 2Top 5 finishes this
century:BYU 0Utah 2BCS Bowl invitations:BYU 0Utah 2Bowl winning streak:BYU 1Utah
9Now back to the article about UTAH FOOTBALL....Utah
will be strong in the trenches on both sides of the ball with tons of depth.
Skill positions are coming around with lots of talent at WR and RB. QBs are
excellent and the defense is always tough. If the secondary and linebackers
keep improving we will have a terrific season!I look forward to
playing our main rival TCU. We have a score to settle and they will probably be
the toughest game on our schedule.Thanks Coach Whitt for the
fantastic recruiting! The incoming recruits are rated the top non BCS class by
rivals (#32).GO UTES!!
to football43:I've never made fun of them for saying that.... I've
made fun of them for making (bronco approved) t-shirts about it before the
Usually read all the articles relating to BYU and Ute football. The Ute fans
piously dog the Cougar fans for talking about BCS games in the spring and
summer. I think in this article no less than 5 Ute fans talked about going BCS.
Please remember this Ute fan when you are tempted to blow up Cougar fans for
talking about BCS before the season starts. Good luck to all the teams in the
re: hedgehog" I wonder if BYU can match Utahs 10-3 "rebuilding"
year...."Been there, done that hedgehog:BYU 2006 11-2,
undefeated MWC championship, 16/15 final pollsreplaces John Beck,
Jonny Harline and Curtis Brownwith Max Hall, Dennis Pitta and Harvey
UngaBYU 2007 11-2, undefeated MWC championship, 14/15 final polls
RE: Sportsfan,I always know when a BYU fan is starting to feel
insecure - they pull out some long winded presentation about winning the games
their suppose to but not mentioning the epic collapse that happens ever year.Being that it's a reloading year (TDS never rebuilds) I wonder if BYU
can match Utahs 10-3 "rebuilding" year....Don't lie, remeber you
have an "honor" codeLOL
BYU and Utah All-timeFootball Top 25 FinishesBYU 17Utah
6AP/Coaches1964 Utah UR/141977 BYU 20/161979
BYU 13/121980 BYU 12/121981 BYU 13/111983 BYU 7/71984
BYU 1/1 National Champions1985 BYU 16/171989 BYU 22/181990 BYU
22/171991 BYU 23/231994 BYU 18/10, Utah 10/81996 BYU 5/52001 BYU 25/242003 Utah 21/212004 Utah 4/52006 BYU 16/152007 BYU 14/152008 BYU 25/21, Utah 2/42009 BYU 12/12, Utah
18/18BYU has finished in the Top 25 SEVENTEEN of the past 33 years
(52%) -- for all of U historians, that's a third of a century.The
only decade in Utah history where the Utes finished in the Top 25 more than once
was the 2000's, when the Utes finished in the Top 25 FOUR of the 10 years
(40%).Get back to us Utes when you manage to finish in the Top 25 at
least 50% of the time for a single decade.
re: THEeyepatchNot really sure what you're talking about, but you
need to re-read my posts. Just pointing out the fact that during
Utah's supposed "rebuilding" year we still won 10 games. Utah has started to
reload, not rebuild. What are you talking about?
I love bluezoob's logic, they must be the only ones getting experience this
year....Keep in mind tds only wins some of the games that they are
supposed to against the Utes, please tell me when the last time was that Utah
lost to tds when Utah was favored and I believe they will be favored this
year!Hey Hedge,What do you expect when you has 4-5 O-linemen,
two 1000 yard rushers, two experienced QBs, a full D-line and a starting safety
and corner returning. When the Utes have all that returning and only a few
injured and yet the tds has 4 Linemen (if that, can't even play a scrimmage), a
couple receivers (yet their main receiver is gone) from the offense and a safety
and corner from the defense that isn't hurt there is not much to be happy about.
@williary | 12:52 p.m. April 19, 2010 Yeah, and BYU has a rebuilding
season every year, so what is your point, the UTES don't play for the LAS VEGAS
BOWL every year. They [UTES] strive for something better, just like BOISE ST.,
until BYU even playes in a BCS BOWl GAME, hold on to that "magical" '84 season
when BYU beat 6-5 Michigan for an *NC. Why do you Cougar fans even try, such a
re: BlueCougUtah had a "rebuilding" year last season, and finished
10-3 with a very tough schedule. Losses by 7 @ Pac-10 champ Oregon, and in
overtime @ top 15 BYU.We'll see if BYU's "rebuilding" year having to
replace the same positions Utah did last year will be even close to as
successful. My guess after Friday is it will not be. @ Utah, TCU, FSU. Home
to Washington. If BYU wins 1 of those games I'll be very surprised.
It’s funny how Kewgar fans are now only talking smack about the Utes but
keeping very, very quite about their own teams prognosis. It’s
understandable; we all see the “train wreck” of a season coming for
YBU. It’s best to divert attention away from what may be the worst BYU
team in many, many years.As far as Utah? MWC championship and BCS is
the expectations. And guess what, 2011 only looks better.Sleep well
I played for Hunter High School with Matt for 3 years and during the state
championship year with Tauni, Ron, Shawn, and Matt. To see all of them at the
next level is awesome. It shows what an awesome team that 2003 champs were.
University of Utah is turning into Hunter High School....just kidding. Its nice
to see all of them being successful. Lets take home the MWC championship this
year Utes, and possibly a run for the BCS. We can do it.
TDS - you will be lucky to be at .500 when the season is over. Meanwhile -
we'll have an awfully long break from the time we beat you by 30 to the big game
in January. GO UTESBCS 3!
worf, did you ask your mom for permission to log in? better ask,
you know you could get grounded!Anyway, this article is about the
utes and their red white game. bluecoug and work must have gotten lost looking
for their articles about BYU.Went to teh game on saturday and was
very impressed. Lots of young playmakers and seasoned vets. Our offense should
improve substantially this year. The defense also has a lot of playmakers. I
anticipate it will take 2-3 games for teh new linebackers and secondary to get
into the swing of things, but with a D-line like we have, where we literally go
eight deep, and proven playmakers behind them, we should be pretty good this
Let's see? Forty four wins in four years? HaHaHa! Only a blind ignoramus would
be confident of a win against the Cougars. MARK MY WORDS! Utes lose to Pit, TCU,
re: hedgehogBYU will be playing a lot of young, inexperienced
players to start the season, with a tough early season schedule -- Washington
(and Jake Locker), @Florida State, and @Air Force -- but, the Cougars will be
veterans by the time they face the Utes in RES.The Cougars have a
wealth of talented young players who will rise to the challege of replacing
stellar players like Max Hall, Dennis Pitta, and Harvey Unga.BYU has
a history of reloading, rather than rebuilding.3 or more Top 25
finishes in a rowBYU1979-1981 1983-19851989-19912006-2009Utahnone
RE: williary |I noticed that as well. Even the most delusional
Kewgar has to be laying low after what happened to Unga last week. Let’s
see, a freshman QB and RB and TE. The WR position is below average and again
looking at freshman’s to save the day. What about the offensive line?
Paper thin and praying that the few average OL players come back from off season
surgery.If Kewgar fans would think rationally, they would pray that
Bronko red shirts Heaps for next year. Whoever “wins” the QB
position at BYU will have to deal with the physical and emotional abuse of
leading a ridiculously unprepared offense into the lions den.It’s going to get ugly 6-6 at best.
re: BluCougNoticed how you wanted to give BYU a shot at RES
originally in your post, but ended up only mentioning TCU.Can't
blame you, especially with the events of Friday in the bubble.
Has anyone else noticed that the number of BYU posters have dropped off the map
now that they have to register under a unique name? Strange what they prospect
of accountability will do to one who wants to post trash.
And we will looking to avenge the 2009 loss. RES will be a hostile environment.
@SportsFan | 10:17 a.m.LOL, just because TCU and BYU is coming to
RES, is not a given to win the MWC. TCU will dominate the utes again this year.
TCU will remember the 2008 game and seek and will avenge that loss.
Hey Coach Kils,Still trying to figure out this whole posting
comments thing? How far do you think the utes will go this year?
WE'RE GOING AS FAR AS #7 TAKES US
ONE PLAY @ A TIME... TWO PLAYS INTO THIS YEAR'S SPRING GAME HALF OF UTES NATION
HAD HEARTATTACKS. WE HAVE ALL PIECES AND TALENT, THIS SEASON WILL BE A FUN
ONE......P.S. WE'RE GONIG AS FAR AS #7 TAKE US!
DID ANY OF YOU WATCH THIS GAME... WE HAVE THE TALENT AND ALL THE PIECES, I
TRULLY BELIEVE WE'RE GOING AS FAR AS #7 TAKES US....
One game at a time Ute fans. With that said, we are not set up for a NC run
this year. TCU or BSU may be. Let us not be like so many of our friends to the
south who seem to talk NC and Heisman every year. This looks to be a great year
for Utah Football!
Utah fans - way too early to talk BCS or even NC. Keep in mind that TCU and
Boise State will be highly ranked going into the season. We have to take care
of business with 1 of those teams and see if during the year someone doesn't
take care of the other.Remember 1 game at a time, let others talk about
BCS and NC going into the season. 1 game, 1 win at a time.Who Am I
Sir - A Utah Man Am I
SportsFan up top, lets not get to carried away. the only game that matters is
the game against pitt. lets win that one first.
The Utes will definitely be in the hunt for a national championship this year.
With TCU and BYU coming to RES, a MWC championship is a given.
I'm with ya Chris B. 3rd times the charm - this time for the crown!
This team could be special. Very impressed with what I saw today. I'm not
saying a bcs is guaranteed, but it wouldnt surprise me one bit. go
Almost losing his starting quarterback was probably not something Coach
Whittingham was expecting. Good thing it wasn't something more serious than a
minor tweak in his throwing shoulder.