Comments about ‘Unlike Oklahoma, Utah not talking about forming state militia’

I guess I'm exempt from the Utah militia, seeing as how I'm a lunatic and all:)

I guess Tea-Partiers are all exempt from legally forming a militia due to the "idiots, lunatics" clause.

What a crock of doo doo - Utah legislators leading a national state's rights movement say there has been no discussion here about forming a state militia to help in their fight against the federal government. Red State of Utah ranks No. 13 when it comes to receiving federal pork-barrel spending, according to the annual "Pig Book" so I say OINKERS AWAY with 'em. Oh I am sure The Tea Party started up much like Pirate Radio did, inspired by true events to. By not re-electing Congress in 2010, we can show them a big message, through cutting off their BIG testicular duties we no longer need nor want any more, dry them, grind them up and send them back to them in a pepper shaker to re-sprinkle it back on the hogwash they been feeding us Americans long enough. A measure restoring jobless benefits of up to 99 weeks for people struggling to find work after months of unemployment has hit a snag in the Senate. Despite winning the Republican vote they needed, Democrats fell just short of the 60 votes necessary to defeat a GOP challenge to the jobless benefits measure.

I had a neighbor who was really into the "state militia" movement. He ended up in Idaho with the Aryan Nations crowd. Maybe there's a difference between the two groups but right now most people have a hard time seeing the difference. Let's stick with the national guard.

If you have a might need to defend this country, join the military.
I did. It was amazing. Get the information and make a choice.
A bunch of people 'playing Army' is fun and all, but the real defense of this country is by voting.

"Some able-bodied Utahns are exempt from the "unorganized" militia, including elected officials, judges, court personnel, firemen, railway employees and "idiots, lunatics, and persons convicted of infamous crime."



Well I guess that leaves the legislators out. They qualify for several of those categories!

All kidding aside, this hate for the President is way out of hand. Disagree with the policies but don't vilify the office or the man.

Utah Republicant's timed their effort to coincide with the release of the annual Congressional Pig Book, distributed by the watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste. The pig book details pork-barrel spending and was rolled out with pig-costumed staffers pushing barrels. $15,115,446 for 17 projects by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), including: $3,723,750 for a Natural Products Lab; $2,780,400 for the Jamie Whitten Delta States Research Center; $1,075,419 for the Agricultural Wildlife Conservation Center; $849,015 for genomics for southern crop stress and disease research; $511,395 for biotechnology research; and $229,383 for rural systems research. $14,038,041 for 12 projects by Senate Agriculture Appropriations Subcommittee Ranking Member Robert Bennett (R-Utah), including: $5,560,800 for the Agricultural Research Center in Logan; $2,616,555 for a Utah conservation initiative; $1,191,600 for function genomics research; $559,059 for high performance computing; and $186,684 for pasture and forage research. $3,260,019 for four projects by Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas): $1,709,946 for sorghum research and $1,550,073 for the Plant Stress and Water Conservation Lab. etc.

the time may be near, however. When the federal government becomes abusive, and ignores the will of the people? This is the very reason the second amendment was passed. Memo to Pres. Obama, "You want to 'bring it on?' well we're coming, the country is angry, and we want our freedoms back, freedoms which you stole from us.

@tq2

Which freedoms have you lost? Inquiring minds truly want to know.

I'm anticipating the sound of crickets chirping...

@tq2

I would be very interested to read your answer as well.

@tq2
I'm also waiting

@tq2..YEP, I'm waiting too.

"tq2 | 4:29 p.m. April 14, 2010
the time may be near, however. When the federal government becomes abusive, and ignores the will of the people? This is the very reason the second amendment was passed. Memo to Pres. Obama, "You want to 'bring it on?' well we're coming, the country is angry, and we want our freedoms back, freedoms which you stole from us."


Are you talking about the "Freedoms" That Bush took when he signed the Patriot act?

Are you talking about the $700 billion $ bank bailout Bush signed?

JohnJacob, et al.

The loss of freedom IS bipartisan.

So, can we stop bickering about who is at fault and start repairing the damage?

@freedomworks

What loss of freedom? Nobody ever answers this question .. why?

My sister in Texas is a Tea Partier. I asked her what freedoms she had lost and her reply was that when the government takes our money for taxes, we do not have the freedom to spend it however we want to.

So, freedom = money. Loss of freedom = loss of money.

Let's see, freedoms lost? Well I no longer have the right to choose who I want to get a student loan from. Why? The current administration decided for me that they could handle my loans the best. I no longer have the right to choose whether or not I want health insurance. Why? The current administration decided for me that I wasn't responsible enough to save my own money for emergencies. These are just two easy ones to point out. If we let them though I'm sure that the current administration would just love to take away a lot more freedoms like the right to bear arms.

There are no losses of freedom under Obama. Don't be so ridiculous. In fact, the opposite is true as he has reversed some of the actions taken by the prior Administration under the guise of national security. And to "skyhigh", you can get a student loan from whom ever you want. The banks were mishandling it and costing the taxpayers an enormous amount of money. Now there will be more money available if you want to take advantage of government assisted lending. But you want government guarantees of private lending. This is no different than the government involvement in Wall Street and the auto industry. Why is one good and not the other? Because you like federal money for your programs but not ones you are directly benefiting from. That's the whole problem with the Republicans and the tea party crowd. It's all about selfishness. Freedom can be defined in a lot of ways, but you will be screaming for the government to help you in any number of ways if you don't have health insurance and something goes wrong. You can't always rely on the Church safety net. It only goes so far.

@skyhigh
You can still get a student loan from whomever you want. However, stafford loans (subsidized-style) will only coem from the government. You can still go to your local bank and get a private student loan. Also, you can still choose not to have health insurance. Yes, there is a fine, but it is tiny compared to premiums. It is also a civil fine, nit a criminal charge...and therefore that choice can still be made.

It's not really a question of specific freedoms lost, but the constant chipping away of basic personal and state rights. If you understand the Constitution and the intent of the Founders, then you can easily see it. The federal government was granted a limited set of rights, and the rest are reserved to the states and the people. As things are now, there are several mandates for citizens to conform to certain things, no matter what their situation, like health insurance and taxes, as well as mandates for the states like Medicare. It's basically about too much federal control.