I really enjoy watching the GOP eat itself.
For the most part I have liked Hatch, but today I heard he said it would be
interesting to see Hilary Clinton put in as a Supreme Court Justice. To me that
is absurd. The radical Democrats are killing us and to put someone like Hilary
in as a Supreme Court Justice would be terrible and help the Democrats move
forward with their progressive ideals. Hatch needs to go, if he is going
to think like that. He has been in too long and become to friendly with the
I left Utah for job reasons, but keep up on what is going on my home state
through the paper here. I come from a family that has deep ties to the
Republican party, and is deeply conservative.What bothers me most is
not that people don't like our current administration, or are not happy with
some of the legislation passed, but the general ton of these "Conservative"
purist. Not only do they project hate toward those in the other party, but they
are quick to spew their viral hatred toward their own for not being
"conservative" enough. If you aren't in lock step with them on each and every
issue, you are the enemy. History is filled with scenarios like the
one we are entering, where one group decides to demonize anyone who doesn't meet
the groups perception of purity. I thought we as a society had elevated
ourselves above this. I thought the faith of the majority around Utah would
have then behave in a more civilized manner. And maybe they do... they just
don't comment. But based on the comments found here, I am very
concerned for my home state.
Hi Constitution quoters. You are aware that the gentlemen who wrote the
Constitution expected the Senators to be career politicians and the members of
the House to be new every two? The founders wanted the Senators appointed by
the states, so that the states could pick senior statesmen to send to the
capital. The electoral college was created to prevent a wild session of throw
the bums out. These are facts about our form of government. Personally I would like to see some of bums thrown out, it would lessen the
power that some of the smaller states have.
You are wrong Senator Hatch, we are very angry at YOU. Your time is ending as a
senator, you will be voted out. You haven't done anything for our state lately.
Goodbye and Good riddance.
I have contacted Hatch and Bennett regularly, about my dissatisfaction with the
Health Care Bill, and many other issues this government is trying to use to take
away our freedoms, and have received not only their responses back, but,
sometimes even send me a letter, explaining "how" and "why" they are voting the
way they are..I have been pleased with their conservative stand.
They have a lot of influence in Washington, ...especially Hatch!!He
is a wonderful man, and speaks out effectively with those in Washington...and he
has built friendships there that are invaluable.BE SURE that you
contact them every time you have a concern, so that they can truly REPRESENT
you!!It would be a mistake to take the chance on losing them at this
crucial time...when we need people of influence in our Senate...who represent
This is stupid. We're mad at Hatch and Bennett for not standing up to the Obama
mob machine so we're going to replace them with - Democrats? That's crazy!I will never vote for a Democrat - ever.And before any of
you liberals call me close minded, I'd love to hear about how many Republicans
you've voted for.We all vote our own interests and the Democrats'
only interest in me is taking more from my wallet to give to the lazy able
I have observed a number of the Senators both from Utah, Arizona, and
California The Republican Party has failed to prevent the attack against our
constitution since they took control of the Senate and House in 1994. They have
been partners with the Demo's in supporting the biggest heist of the public
treasury ever accomplished by the Political machine inside the beltway called
the Bailout Bill, the GOP candidate for president revealed his true colors by
setting aside his campaign to support it. All this opened the way for the crazy
robbing of the treasury by those in power to pull their scam. Time for an
uprising at the Polls.
I never was a fan of Orin Hatch. I felt he was a carpetbagger who skillfully
gamed the culture in Utah by saying what Utahns like to hear. It's funny, the
worst thing Orrin did politically in Utah was being friends with Kennedy. This
was a friendship grounded in forgiveness, turning the other cheek and reaching
out. Many Utahns see these attributes as despicable.Intellectually,
I catch myself asking what is it in Utah culture that fed so much hatred? Why
don't whose acting as moral compasses ever speak out on how ugly this looks? Folks, Orrin has spent a lot of time out of Utah. This alone makes you
more tolerant of others. I grew up Mormon, I really like the ideas
of grace and forgiveness.
Orrin has fooled Utahn's for 36 years talking out both sides of his mouth, It's
about time we get rid of him and Bennett too.
Orin is one of the top ten recipients to receive funding from the pharmaceutical
companies. That is one of the problems with healthcare, it is run by the drug
companies. He is out of touch if he doesn't understand we want them all out, all
of them are bought and sold by special interest including Hatch and Bennett.
They are dinosaurs. Vote them all out!
Let me get this straight, people cheered when Hatch said he would oppose making
it easier for workers to orgainize? Is he part-owner in a coal mine or
something? For a guy that is supposedly for smaller government except when it
comes to his paycheck this is an idiotic position. If government is not going
to keep a check on corporations the only other group that can is well-informed
citizens working together - a UNION! Vote this clown out until he can make a
Vote everyone out. Let's start over.
There should be a limit of two terms for any congressmember. It shouldn't be a
career with full pension and cadillac health care!
Before the vote on health care, why didn't the Republicans walk out of the House
and say we need to read it first?
Personal political philosophy for 2010 and beyond:If you are
currently in political office or have been in office in recent memory--it is
time to go. Resign, move to Outer Mongolia or be voted out.Sign
MeFormer Democrat, Former Republican and Responsible Adult who is no
longer willing to pay for other's selfishness and stupidity. I don't owe anyone
Does this comment get posted?
Change at 9:20 - really? Throw every one of them out? How much do you really
know about "every one of them?" Probably not much I would wager. Another voter
in Utah - do you understand the constitutional implications of what you are
advocating? You obviously do not or you wouldn't advocate for it - do some
homework before you spout off To CITIZEN at 12:09 - the joke is not on you -
you are the joke, post something relevant or don't post - you are just taking up
space and waste the time of people reading the posts. StanleyR - do you really
know what Hatch has or hasn't done relating illegal immigration? New
immigration court in Utah, additional ICE resources in Utah, the Secure
Communities program in Utah - go ask Salt Lake County law enforcement what it
means to Utah since you don't know to g.g. and Retire Hatch - why do you say we
need new blood? Change for the sake of change? We have seen where that takes us
now haven't we - give concrete examples not platitudes - it just makes you look
ignorant. Rick @ Rickety - Mike Lee is a total show horse
Geez, I don't know where to start. First, the article was not very objective.
I attended the town hall meeting and stayed for the whole thing. The article
does not mentioned that Hatch got huge applause several dozen times and that
many who asked questions thanked him for coming and having the courage to hold
town hall meetings in such a convulsive political environment. I agree. Enough
is Enough @ 8:52 - how do you expect Hatch and Bennett to succeed in a 60-40
Senate? Your comment shows that you are not objective or that you don't
understand how the Congress operates or both. And Pat Spencer - of course each
Senator gets one vote on the floor but the ranking member of a committee or the
chairman gets a hundred more opportunities to influence the outcome of
legislation than does a novice senator. If you believe otherwise you are
delusional. Limits - you obviously would rather have lifetime bureaucrats
making the laws rather than the duly elected representatives in Congress because
that is exactly what would happen with term limits. We already have the power
to terminate bad reps - it's called the ballot box.
Blame the unions and blame immigrants. What a crock. Unions are the only group
that stands up for the working class. As for immigrants they flee an
impoverished third world country run by drug cartels and we are up in arms.
Next time you travel how about cleaning your own motel rooms since we americans
don't want service sector jobs. Kicking immigrants out would create a massive
labor shortage. The Unites States has become a racist nation. It makes me
sick. Stop the hate and stop blaming everything on immigrants. Most are decent
hard working people who just want the same freedoms we enjoy. I believe God is
going to hold us responsible for the awful way we treat those who are poor and
desperate. By the way notice I didn't behind anonymous. I am not afraid to
speak to mind and identify myself.
And exactly why would it be complicated to have the government leaders to have
to live under the same circumstances as the electorate??? Bob Bennett e-mailed
me that he was proud to have voted for the bail out when I begged both him and
Hatch not to do it. Hatch sent a lengthy e-mail telling why he did it. I want
them both out. There are several waiting in the wings to do what we need to
have done. We want them!!! Seniority is always the key phrase they use to get
us to scare us to vote for them again and again. Start with new constitutional
people, people who will fight for America and people who will get rid of all the
pork, every bit of it. We hardly ever hear from our senators until the election
time. Watch what they do, not what they say.
Utah is the most conservative state in the union and we can send a message to
the rest of the nation that even the most conservative state is feed up with
what is happening in DC. by replacing Hatch, Bennett and Bishop. We can
implement term limits ourselves and send the message that we are tired of the
same old politics...if we don't, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
I have thought for many years that there should be term limits. Bring in new
people with new ideas. Every young person in America needs to have a chance to
bring in a different perspective of how to better run our country. We should
choose a day, maybe July 4 and everyone possible send a real letter to the
politicians,flooding Washington with our concerns.
I absolutely shudder to think what Congress could and would do if there were no
conservatives in office. Get things done? Pass HIV
reasearch in Utah? Just saying...
I'm a liberal, so I don't have much use for either Senator Hatch or Senator
Bennett. It's a strange feeling, though, to watch the ultraconservatives try to
destroy their own power base in Washington. I'm glad they're doing it, you
understand, but it sure seems quixotic.To the commenter who asked if
a novice senator got fewer votes than a long-time senator, the answer i(n
practical terms) is a resounding yes, so you and your colleagues might want to
figure out how Washington actually works before you decide how to cast your
If you're against intellectual elitism you favor ignorance and meritocracy.
Fairness is bad. We can't let people Fox or talk radio attack face their
accusers. What is Wrong with Unions | 11:01 nothing. If there were
strong union legal labor would have never happened. Conservatives always blame
workers and the poor. The play the jealousy card in states with low wages. Once workers united to bring labor up. Today, poorly paid workers want
to bring other workers down.
I absolutely shudder to think what Congress could and would do if there were no
conservatives in office.
re: I can just see it now - | 12:45 p.m. April 9, 2010 "Time to
retire Orrin."In order to retire, don't you have to do something?
Orrin hasn't done anything for yrs.
To Huntington Beach: Do you want to know what else is ridiculous...the pay that
the average police officer, firefighter or teacher receives. I don't know how
some of them can afford to live in Utah, and I know many of them can't afford to
live in the jurisdictions in which they work? I can't think of any other
group(s) that receive so much less than their worth in this area. At least they
get to retire with dignity (which is better than the majority of Americans will
get to do).
So will Utahn's, in their anger, elect tea party senators? It seems that
Americans keep polarizing father and farther beyond partisan lines, which is too
bad. The best answers are usually found in the moderate section of the spectrum.
Hatch supported health care reform- along with Bennett- in the 90's. Now he
opposes health care reform that is nearly identical? What a flip-flopper!Hatch was not responsible for the executive order preventing federal
dollars from being spent on abortion. The democrats did that. You know- the
democrats that crazy conservatives are calling baby-killers. What a liar.Hatch also supported the 2nd George W Bush Stimulus Package, which
bailed out the banking industry and actually purchased ownership of companies.
That would be socialism, right? And he claims to support the tea partiers?
Learn a little about healthcare:: You suggest Healthcare reform was and is
nessesary, then you suggest trying to remove some democrat instead of our
republican senators. May I remind you the DEMCRATs passed Healthcare without 1
republican vote. What you say is just hypocriticle. Vote the guys out who passed
it, and retain the party of do Nothing. Your as dillusional as they are. Obama
inherrited a mess. On that I hope we can all agree. He is trying to fix it. With
the jobs bill and healthcare,although he gets nothing from the party
responsible, but critisism and outright lies. This guy is a perfect example of
the double standard of republicans. In 2008 America voted republicans out in
droves. Since then the democrats passed historic healthcare reform, with no help
from the party of no. Imagine what we can do if we get more of the party of No
out of office>!! The party of Lincoln, The Grand old party has Become the party
of Palin, Limbaugh, and Beck. Cartoon charecters,full of lies and hate. They are
out of touch, ideas, power and soon to be completely irrevelant
Wheeling Orrin Hatch into the senate chambers in a wheelchair while on oxygen to
cast his vote. New blood is needed. Come on. Being in Congress after the age
of 80? Time to retire Orrin.
Let's vote in more do nothings like Chaffetz, they sure sound good in interviews
Bring home Bailout Bob in 2010. Bring home Ted's best buddy in 2012.
Senator Hatch is quoted in this article as saying:"Mainly the anger is at
this (Obama) administration and its arrogance of power."I honestly
don't understand what Senator Hatch is talking about. The Tea Party
does not speak for me.Any candidate that agrees with the Tea Party
loses my vote.Any candidate that opposes the Tea Party gets my
vote.Any candidate that can convince Tea Party people to come to
their senses gets my enthusiastic support!
Several comments include a call for "term limits." The "term limits" they seek
would not only purge the bad politicians, but also eliminate the true statesmen
(I can't come up with any names right now) that we desperately need. May I
remind everyone that we already have a "term limits" process: We voters are are
the "term limits" mechanism -- we are supposed to be wise enough and educated
enough to vote the bums out!
Hatch and Bennett may have done a good job in the past, but they both agreed to
limith their terms when they started. That is exactly the problem. These people
get back there and forget who they are and what they are there for, they get
drunk with power. That is why they need limits, regardless of how good they are.
I will vote for new blood on both and I hope enough of the nation does the same
that we can get some rules that heavily favor incumbents changed! But we can't
sit back and say we won't do it unless everyone does, it has to start somewhere,
let it be here!
So they boo the man who is on their side! Hatch has never
been on MY side.
The best part of many of these posts is the belief that new people in Washington
will not become corrupted by the system just as much and just as fast as the old
ones- yeah my person is just and will do right while in Washington but those old
people are corrupt and need to go- so glad you people are such wonderful judges
of charcater that you can find and identify people of such high moral standing-
where have you been all along- we have needed you for decades to help all of us
ignoooorant types see who is really just and noble- I thank you for correcting
my igornace and for having such a high belief in human nature that new people in
high office will not be just as corrupted as the old ones- I now I l know you
will vote them out as well once they are corrupted- good luck and what simple
minded people you expose yourself as
...to rebuild a Republican Party that has it's basis in (let's be adults and
face it) bigotry and intolerance and that basically begs for more of that--is
doomed to fail. We have a President who is doing big things in Washington in the
face of some of the angriest, most intolerant, and least patriotic people I've
ever seen in this nation. Sheeplike people who simply don't read or write well
enough and believe in catch phrases and make them a way of life. This is a
President who is absolutely unafraid of you and who is beloved by those who
voted for him and well liked by many who didn't. The splintered ANGER voters
might just have a tough time settling on someone who pacifies your anger and is
actually electable in this country. Anyway, when I read about Tea Parties and
angry town meetings, I find it oddly calming. I sigh, sit back and say to
myself--"they still don't know who they are."
When Reagan tried to appoint Bork, liberals thought Bork was “a dangerous
appointee”. When Bush wanted to appoint Ashcroft, liberals thought he was
evil. But wise moderate Democrats realized Bush had won and had a right to
govern. They didn’t like Ashcroft but they headed “the voice of the
people”, unlike the Kingmen of the Book of Mormon (i.e. Nephite Tea Party)
who were “wroth”. Some Republicans seem to regret that we live in a
Republic but that’s not what our founders gave us. If every Congressman
who doesn't like something in a bill, votes no like Ron Paul, then we wouldn't
even have an annual defense appropriation. That might make Ron Paul and Dennis
Kucinich happy but not most Americans who like having an Army, Navy and Air
Force. And just as we have a spectrum that includes Nancy Pelosi and Jason
Chaffetz today, our founders had to deal with people who were at each
other’s throats. They were inspired to give us a Constitutional Republic
where compromise was necessary. How else do you govern a nation of 300
We live in a Republic. That means to get things done one has to compromise.
Our founders knew Dictator's don't compromise. They created a system where no
one would ever be satisfied but factions would be checked. Wallace Bennett
wisely stated: "we legislate at the [best] level at which we can obtain a
majority". For example: Party A controls the body and wants to RAISE taxes
20%. Party B is in the minority and wants to CUT taxes 20%. If Party B clings
to its view and simply votes no, taxes will be raised 20%. Instead, Party B
seeks out moderates in Party A who favor tax increases but think 20% is two
much. They support an amendment to the bill to make it so that the tax increase
is only 5%. They just saved taxpayers 15% and upheld their principles the BEST
All Evangelicals hate Mormons?
You guys are really whacky if you want untested leadership in these crazy times.
Look at Chaffetz, ALL TALK, NO ACTION. Hatch and Bennett do things for Utah.
At least Cannon bothered to do something instead of yapping like Chaffetz.
We are mad because he puts politics before the needs of his constituents.
Orrin, it is obvious you day has come and gone. What all of these comments are
telling you (and the rest of the good old boys in Congress) is to leave with
dignity, graciousness and let a new generation be elected that will promote the
will of the people, honor the Constitution, and get us out of the mess you have
left us in. You don't get a pass on this one, not the Republicans and not the
Democrats - there line between has become non existant. The Tea Party
demonstrators speak to "financial stability"...which without, nothing else will
matter - we won't be able to educate our children, arm our military or implement
a "sane" healthcare bill. Please, see the writing on the wall - it's time to
We live in a Republic. We have 435 reps and 100 Senators. Hatch and Bennett
are only 2% of the Senate and less than 1/10 of 1% of both houses. So they
voted against the Health Care Bill and favor repeal, but they know that unless
Republicans controlled over 2/3 of both houses President Obama would veto the
repeal without an override. No matter what happens this November, we all know
that won’t happen. Hatch knows this and tries to explain it to the
audience, but in spite of being supposed "Constitutionalists" the booers
obviously have not read the Constitution nor can they do simple math. So they
boo the man who is on their side! They boo the guy who voted the way they
wanted him to! Fortunately our founders bequeathed us with a system that tends
to thwart the mobocracy either side. That’s why you don’t hear
about Cindy Sheehan or Michael Moore anymore and you won’t hear about the
Tea Party in a few years.
and I'll say it again. I don't care if they are republican, Democrat or other,
If they are an incumbent, VOTE THEM OUT!!!!! I don't mean just in Utah, I mean
across the entire U.S.. This is the best and only way to begin to fix our HUGE
problems that we face here in our beloved United States of America.
Too little, too late, we all need to vote these non-residents out. Yes,
non-residents, they don't live here except to barely qualify for ballot entry,
they don't represent Utah values or beliefs, they are DC political super stars
not Utah heros. They need to be VOTEd OUT - BENNETT then HATCH!!!!!
I have long felt frustration over Hatch, he and Kennedy, the most liberal
Senator were best buddies and no doubt made many deals with each other. There
was the blackmail feeling that we had to elect these old vetted Senators cause
they can do our state more good. That is hogwash, how long was our now
president a Senator before he got into office? I am so much for term limits and
the best way to have term limits is vote them out. These older people have not
done their states or the country any good. Hatch, maybe it is time to serve a
I for one am not moved by Hatch's campaign slogan "Vote for me. I've got
seniority". He claims he has been "working very hard", but all I see is the
continuing decline of our nation and greater disregard for the wonderful
Constitution. The Senate is too much of an 'old-boys club' and Hatch is a senior
member.In my opinion, these are the vital questions that must be
asked about Orrin Hatch:- What has his 30 plus years in the Senate
accomplished for our Nation?- Is the nation better-off because Utah has
continued re-electing him rather than a real conservative?- Are our judges
less 'activist' and more inclined toward the Constituion because of his
seniority on the Judicial Committee?- Was his being "a senior and
respected senator" influential in preventing the Republican Party from merely
being "Democrat-lite' when it was the majority under G. W. Bush?- Other
than being "good friends with Ted Kennedy", what is Hatch's claim to fame?As for me and my household, we're voting for new blood--in hopes of
getting another Jason Chaffetz.
Hatch is a compromiser. He seemingly has no immovable principles that drive his
decisions. The fact that Teddy Kennedy was his "best friend" in Washington
explains much of his political philosophy. He and Bennett voted to approve the
appointment of Cass Sunstein,one of Obamas most dangerous appointees. Hatch
explained in a telephone town hall that we should approve Obamas appointees so
that when Republicans are back in power, they Democrats will "be nice to us."
Hatch, like Bennett, McCain, Lindsey Graham, Romney and other Republicans take
pride in their ability to "work with their friends across the aisle". What we need are principled people who will stand up in opposition to the
disaster in Washington, not compromising politicians. We need real choices when
we vote. I'm tired of the idea that we vote for "the lesser of two evils." Look
where that has brought us.
I must admit, I am busy and simple in that I don't understand how a place like
congress works. It seems so complicated to get the simplest things done, and
some of the most complicated things simply need to get done. For me, I need it
simplified. I need to see a bulleted list of what the majority of the State of
Utah hold as their values and priorities that we feel need representation in
Washington. I then need our elected officials to post a bulleted list of what
their values and priorities are, and see how well they match up. Then I need a
bulleted list of how our elected officials actually did in representing us.
Since excuses don't improve performance, we could measure their successes and
efforts. We could see then, if our votes have been well placed. If not we vote
differently. Is there somewhere that I can go to find this information? I don't
want excuses why something didn't get done, or why this issue never made it to
discussion... I want to see performance. Orin and Robert, please help a busy
person understand you!
Orrin, do yourself and the citizens of Utah a favor and just retire. You'll be
respected and honored as a 6 (I think) term senator. But if you run again and
get beat, like Bennett is going to be, then you'll be remembered as someone we
had to throw out.And BTW, Orrin, you are not part of the solution,
you are part of the problem. You are a big spender too.
I do not understand the contemptuous anger against these men who voted the way
the majority of us wanted them to in order to support the previous president's
agenda.This state overwhelmingly supported Bush and his policies.Now the
consequences are being felt. Saying "no" every time is not now enough. Being
angry with them is like blaming the messenger. They did what you hired them to
do for those years. While I did not/do not agree with them or my fellow citizens
who voted for them, I don't condone the use of the insulting language that all
too often is degrading, untrue and inflamatory.The threat of violence is
excused, condoned and reinforced by many. This should never be a part of the
civil discourse in the governing of our nation.We look around the world and
decry this behavior in other countries. Yet do we see our current failure to
lead by example when challenges are great and opinions are strong?Each party has
ideas for how to solve our problems and strengthen our nation. Let us show
respect for our fellow citizens and vote our support or displeasure without
harming our fellow citizens.
10 bucks say's that most you people, even though you are chiding him here, will
still vote for him in 2012. I am a republican who has always felt that Orrin was
out for himself and the Ol'Boy network. But for some reason Utah folks just seem
to keep voting him in. Kinda stupid thinking now isn't it?
Sen Hatch teamed up with ultra-liberal Teddy Kennedy a few years ago and gave us
CHIPs, which is NOT conservatism by any means. And why is repeal not so easy?
Just do it!!! And what do you mean expecting our elected officials to live by
the laws they pass might do more harm than good? That one answer alone shows
Hatch's Potomac fever has him delirious. How in the world does expecting
elected officials to live by the laws they pass do harm. Forcing them to live by
those laws, it seems to me, will keep them from passing stupid laws! Maybe what
he means is it would be a lot harder to find greedy people to run for office
because there would be no perks like exempting yourself from the law and voting
yourself a $185,000 a year salary FOR LIFE with an automatic 3% or 4% per year
pay raise? COME HOME ORRIN! You need to rest!
I'm a life-long conservative, and I'm tired of the current state of affairs.MR. HATCH: 1. TERM LIMITS.2. Laws passed for
the PEOPLE--apply to Congress!3. You've always had my
vote...sorry...NO More!4. What did YOU do in 36 years for better
HEALTH CARE????????????????? NoooooWWWWW you do something.
Bennett and Hatch are enablers. They have enabled progressives to gradually
cripple America through spending. They may not have supported every
fiscally reckless initiative proposed since Obama became president, but they
sure didn't do a thing to stop the out-of-control spending when Bush was in the
White House and republicans held the majority in congress.We need to
SLASH federal spending by cutting nearly all social programs and only spend on
the military and necessary infrastructure. By the way, 80% of current federal
spending is on social programs.
Hatch and Bennett are not perfect, I think we all agree on that. However, if
new Senators are elected, there will be few, if any, Senators from the West to
represent this part of the country in influential positions on committees. It's
been a long time since I remember seeing such partisan politics in this country.
We are at war among ourselves. I agree the people who make the laws should
also have to live by them; e.g., members of the Congress and others in
Washington who are not bound by the disastrous health care bill just passed. I
don't understand why they aren't, but I'll bet if they were they would think
things through much more thoroughly before passing the bills and laws.I work for a very small business, and our boss has told us that if he is
required to carry insurance on each of us (we all work part time), then some of
us will have to go and the remaining people work full time. He can't afford to
keep us all, and that makes him--and us--very upset.
As a republican, I want Hatch to get this message, loud and clear:Your time is up. Period.
The anti union threads are wrong. There is no doubt that the unions need to be
reformed, however the coal mine explosion illustrates the need for balance in
the work place. 25 people are dead because a mine owner gambled the safety
needs of the miners against profits and lost.There needs to be a
balance between workers and management. There is no incentive for management
to act responsibly if there is no voice for the workers. Look at
the Crandall Canyon mine disaster in Utah. The company was practicing unsafe
mining. They knew it was unsafe and men died.If there had been a
union there, would this have happened? I don’t think it would have.
Hey Hatch, your ride in the Senate is about over. Enjoy it while it lasts as
this is your last term. Your last term should have ended 3 terms ago. You are
part of the problem of gridlock in Washington. Why not get out now and save
yourself the embarrassment of being thrown out.
OK Orrin,If you really "share (our) anger," and you've really had
your hands tied by never enjoying a fiscally conservative majority in the
senate, why then did you co-author the Serve America Act with the Liberal Lion,
Teddy Kennedy, last year, after the passage of the Bush and Obama stimulus
packages (which cost us $1,600,000,000,000), which benefits worthless Americorps
(why should people be paid to "serve?") and will cost us $6,000,000,000 through
2014?Both you and Bob voted for it- doesn't sound very fiscally
conservative to me. If we don't replace you, you will spend us into bankruptcy.
Obama's new mantra should be "YES WE DID"...take America down! Hatch, Bennett
and the rest of those who have been in congress for the past decades are a part
of it!!! Where were you when the housing bubble was going strong? Where were
you when the banks were out of control? Now that we are living the
"nightmare"...you try to say you weren't the cause. You had many years to make
a difference. You and Bennett did not. You are on the same train as your
Brother Reid next door! Vote all of you out - and start all over - anything
will be better!!! Meanwhile Obama destroys all that America has ever been - and
in only about 18 months...what will the rest of his "first and last" term give
us. Heaven help us, our leaders certainly won't.
Hatch says not to "blame the Republicans." You're just as arrogant as the Dems.
The only thing the Obama admin has done is accelerate the course the entire
government was already on. It the career politicians that are to blame not just
the Democrats. "Seniority" for Bennett and Hatch...? Seniority is the problem.
Time to impose term limits so there is no seniority or abuse of power, back
scratching, double standards, good old boys. I have no respect for the current
admin, but that does not take all the blame away from the Republicans. Let's
clean house 2010 and 2012. Let's take back our country AND our freedoms and OUR
responsibilities instead of being controlled by and beholding to the government
for our very existence (As they would have us think and accept).
Here is what some Americans do not understand. You WILL pay for your healthcare,
either pay your insurance company or pay the government in more taxes. The fly
in the ointment is that the government's version will cost more and be less
efficient- just like Medicare!
The original Orrin Hatch from PA came to Utah and ran for the senate and won. As
far as I can tell he has been an augsto free loader garnering a free ride from
the miss guided Utah voters for 34 years. What has he actually done to further
the cause in Utah?? He and his crony compatriot Bennett should be sent free to
wander in the pasture. Term limits are essential in order to maintain a vibrancy
in the legislative seystem rather than to serve as a good ole boys club.
The legacy of Unions in America= Made in China!
George Washington stepped down after 2 terms in office so as to not create an
imperial presidency. If we can survive as a country despite the greatest
president in history doing that, then surely we can survive Bennett and Hatch
doing the same. They will if they are statesmen like Washington. If they don't,
then vote them out.
Here is what millions of Americans will do very soon:#1: Cancel their
private healthcare insurance.#2: Pay the fine for not having
healthcare.#3: If they get sick they will sign up for Obamacare
(remember-no preconditions clause?)Healthcare costs will skyrocket and the
deficit will explode under this burden!No one will be happy, no, not even
"I've been through tough fights before". Orrin, who are you fighting for now,
but yourself. Quit thinking that you are the only person who can make a
difference for Utah in Washington. You are old and its time to turn the reigns
over to someone else. You've become a part of Washington that believes
that bigger government and political favors are the way of getting things done.
We are sick of it, and we thank you for your service over the years, now be a
good grandpa and retire!
It's time for us to retire these career politicians who have lost touch with the
citizens of Utah!!! Instead of accepting some of the blame, Hatch tries to pass
it all on to his constituents in Washington. We need a senator who works for
**us** rather than a senator who works for the republican party.
The Unions are one of the reasons Obama was elected! The Unions gave him serious
campaign funds for his election. Look at GM and Chrysler if you want to see what
unions do for America. They have basically BROKE both of these companies with
the benefits they expect and the after effect of pensions and health care. Sure
it is nice for the employee but who really is paying their way now? The US
taxpayer thats who, and now that the Union owns a fair amount of each Chrysler
and GM what are the doing for the US employee? Chrysler closed two Dodge pickup
plants in ST. Louis and shipped the tools to Mexico so the trucks can be built
there.Who is paying the out of work Union employee in ST Louis now? The Unions
might have been needed 75 years ago but they are breaking the US auto industry.
The Asian auto makers don't have to contend with the BULLY that is the UAW and
that makes them more profitable. All the Manufacturers build a pretty good car
these days.Thats what is wrong with Unions!Obama now needs to make sure they are
It's one thing for Hatch to get up there and say they share anger, blah, blah,
blah, but what are they doing about it?Research on Bennett shows
while he has rejected some of the measures from the current administration, he
was all for very similar measures when Bush was in. Clearly a
Republican/Democrat thinker, and I suspect Hatch is the same way.That's why on Election Day, I plan to vote for Cherilyn Eager. Look up her
website. She is truly in tune with what the American people want and need.
Heres to To Union. I believe that you are totally correct. The unions were
great years ago but in this day and age they are breaking the back of the
governments of Country, State, County, and Cities. Just look at the police,
firemen, teachers and all other government agencys. Their retirement benefits
and the age that they can reire are ridiculous.
I don't think these guys really know what an angry american is. Even the
Democrates are going to feel the anger so don't call it a Republican battle to
fight.These guys, Hatch and Bennett, have had decades to prove their
worth as representatives and failed miserably. Americans are tired of party
politics each blaming the other as the bad guy, the incumbents who do nothing
are the bad guys. We don't need a representation of spineless leaders who think
everything has to be compromised. If a law or legislation is bad, its bad and
should not be compromised.I have a feeling that this year will be
the year of major change in Washington, even in party affiliation. There are
many good independent americans out there who don't have to put up with party
politics who deserve their chance to put the american people back in power.Their past will haunt them this year and their anger and fears are
superficial and false.
with TARP money. He is a conservative in words but not in action. A "true
conservative" would have never given money to failed businesses. If capitalism
is to work, we need to let the failures take care of themselves. Nothing is too
big to fail. I want my bail out money back right now!
Hatch and everyone else in Washington are going to feel the rage of the American
people now that the country is about to fall off a cliff. It is time to throw
them all out starting with Bennett and Matheson, moving on up to Reid, Pelosi.
Then we need to talk about impeaching Obama before we lose everything. Americans
are waking up to what is happening and heads are going to roll.
1. Hatch really should step down. I think he is too old.2. He is
the biggest panderer of all time to the far right nuts, who themselves are
ignorant and ill informed.3. Hatch loves blaming all the problems
on the Dems, even after he walked away from his responsibility to legislate and
not be an obstructionist.
Do Utah voters want to return to the "Good Old Days" of the Bush Administration?
How lovely that would be.
Many of the older voters voted for Obama because he was a smart, young, clean,
articulate, black man, now they complain about the way he governs.Our government is actually a democrat dictatorship and there is nothing you
can do about it.So sit back and enjoy the fast, slippery, downhill
ride.Breathtaking! Wheeeeeeee!OBAMA-YES WE CAN.
Hatch is going to run again? From what nursing home?
I hope these people are still angry come November. Then we will see that we
don't need an amendment for term limits because we can do it ourselves. Mike Lee would be a great replacement for Bennett.
Here is a good idea! Why don't all you people who think you know it all, run for
Senator! If you think that your little vote will counter all the other votes,
then your crazy. Try looking at the big picture. I think if all you crazy, "one
term limit" people got your way, nothing would be done in Washington. Try
searching out who are the good ones and who is there just to get a huge paycheck
and then take some action. Don't hop on a bandwagon for the sake of thinking
that you are politically active.
The Treaty of San Lorenzo was with Spain, not Mexico in 1795. That's grabbing
straws to justify law breaking. We give out 1 million green cards a
year, we have temporary visas for general workers and agricultural workers H-2b
and H-2a. There is no excuse for coming here illegally when a legal path exists.
There is no excuse not to enforce the laws against the people who
come here illegally, the business that hires them, or the Individuals and
Organizations that encourage the law breaking. All three are against the law.
If you sweat the pennies, you won't have to worry about the dollars.
Enforcing all laws sends a message that we are a civilized society that has
rules. Failure to enforce an entire area of law gives criminals an excuse to
continue breaking all laws.
Hay Hatch, Obama was a first term senator now he is at the top of the dung Heep.
You missed your chance. As President maybe you could have done something. But
time has run out. I WANT YOUR HEALTH CARE.
I have read many of the comments and found them passionate but lacking
information. On healthcare reform, member of Congress, even those like Sen.
Hatch that voted against the bill, have to get their insurance under the
exchanges. It was committee staff the exempted themselves that has caused the
uproar. I would challenge any voter in Utah to compile a list of issues and
then compare where Sen. Hatch stands on those issues. Take a long hard look at
how you feel and how he feels. I did that and found that he is voting the way I
would have voted on the major issues. What we have is a rising mob
mentality that gets caught up in the moment without looking at the issues with
any critical thought. It is this very emotional reaction that will lead us down
a path that later we will regret. So everyone should take a deep breath and
start educating themselves on the issues and how our representatives vote.
There will be some votes we don't like but on the whole I think you will find
Sen. Hatch votes the way Utahns would have him vote.
Mr. Bennett and Mr. Hatch need to get out of the way. Both have been in
Washington way too long. Move over, it's time for someone else to make a
difference, or at least try harder.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath, and then think. Orrin Hatch has
absolutely stood up for the people of Utah. He has voted like the majority of
the people of Utah, not necessarily just the way one individual, or a minority
of individuals would vote.Thanks Senator Hatch. I am one voter who
is very mad at Washington, but grateful you are there.
They are good men, but their time has passed. It is time for new blood.
Thank goodness for a voice of reason in the all of the craziness of the Obama
juggernaut. Orrin Hatch fights for Utah, he stands up for us, and he is a
strong advocate for what we believe, what we stand for, and what needs to be
done in Washington. I am as mad as anyone else about where government is
headed, but that anger has to be focused at the right people.I
support Orrin Hatch because he truly is our voice.
I don't always agree with Hatch but have found him (and his office staff) to be
much more responsive than Bennett (or his staff) has ever been. I won't be
voting for Bennett this year but will definitely consider voting for Hatch in
2012 if he indeed runs for reelection. I'm so aghast at what the Democrats are
doing in Washington that I'm even mulling over not voting for Matheson, which I
feel is not fair to him because overall he's done a pretty good job. Anything
to topple Pelosi from her throne. Reid needs to go too.It's up to
each of us to arms ourselves with the facts as best we can and make intelligent
choices in the voting booth. After elections, we must stay engaged with
politics and hold our politicians' feet to the fire. This mess we're in has
something to do with our complacency as well as the actions of some of our
legislators. Hopefully Americans are waking up and noticing that a whole lot of
things are not going well.
I am a conservative but some of these people in Utah are a bit scary. Maybe
they should elect Rush Limbaugh. My problem with Bennett is he said during his
first campaign that he would only serve one term (I lived in Utah at the time).
More conservative Senators from Utah will not make any difference in
pushing the conservative agenda....we our outnumbered....and got lazy during the
time we had the majority and could enact appropriate health care change but did
I believe that except in time of war governments should not have any authority
on deciding who can migrate where. If not for US treaty default, we'd already
have a fair immigration policy. The US problems with Mexico, and Latin American
countries in general, are actually governed by the Treaty of San Lorenzo, which
guaranteed mutual free transit and immigration in perpetuity to all inhabitants
of the US and the Successor States of the Spanish Empire. The US has been in
default since primarily the Franklin Roosevelt Administration, when restrictions
were suddenly imposed. Until then people went back and forth without any
imbalances as work or travel required.
The ignorance poured forth in these comments by Tea Party dupes is astonishing.
The ludicrous misunderstanding and distortion of the US Constitution some of
them reference flows from the shallow and misleading Skousen-Beck-Palin nonsense
that is their primary information source. South Jordan is the place where
people can't understand the connection between family size and the level of
taxes needed to support the education, transportation, and police protection of
all their dependents. Cognitive disconnect and dissonance are the hallmarks of
thought processes born and raised in mysticism, superstition, bigotry--people
who habitually confuse their own self-righteousness with righteousness.
Hatch may be against amnesty, but has done nothing to assure we enforce our
immigration laws. More people die in this country each year from crimes by
illegal immigrants, than died from terrorists in 911. One group we
go to war with, the other we reward with jobs and social services.
Before anyone gets to upset about Bennett and Hatch's positions on the issues,
they need to analyze where they stand. From my perspective of comparing issues,
most of my co-workers also have similar stances on the issues as our two sitting
senators. So the issue of "throw the bums out" is a legitimate concern but only
if we can do it across the board for all the States. Therefore, what we need is
term-limits for Congress just like they did for the President. There are enough
good people in this country that we should be able to keep things moving
effectively on congress and hopefully lessen the impact of lobbyist that work
like crazy and pump money into their campaigns to have certain representatives
Unions when first conceived during the industrial revolutions were useful. They
mostly have out used their usefulness due to changes in employment law and
better understanding of management practices. Most unions now are out for the
power and greed of those in charge of the unions and their lawyers. They are
one of the reasons why it difficult for America to compete against the rest of
the world. Come on, do you really think that auto workers with a high school
diploma or not even that should be compensated $100,000 per year? And then there
are the ridiculous rules that limit flexibility and team work in the work
place.Yes, the Unions have almost driven their members right out of
I'm not angry with Senator Hatch or Senator Bennett. Also, I greatly appreciate
his good works! Just to name one: I don't have pay a doctor just to get a
prescription for calcium or vitamin supplement. "Anger doesn't
solve anything. It builds nothing, but it can destroy everything." -Lawrence
Douglas WilderSchool thy feelings, O my brother; Train thy warm,
impulsive soul.Do not its emotions smother, But let wisdom's voice
control.School thy feelings; there is power In the cool, collected
mind.Passion shatters reasons tower, Makes the clearest vision blind.-Elder Charles W. Penrose
And which one of those do you fit?
Go home hatch,it's not to late to start your singing career.1 highly anticipate
your first album.The joke is on us!!
Learn a little about health care before you whine and groan about reform,
particularly that proposed by the Republicans, and by Bennett.First,
we were already paying for everyone's health care. No one was refused treatment
if they had a heart attack. We were just paying it through the most expensive
means possible: care at ER's, uninsured costs reimbursed by medicare or
medicaid or overcharging the insured to pay for the uninsured.Medicare or medicaid reimbursement is the worst method, due to the endless red
tape.Healthcare reform was and is necessary, we just need a good
solution. The Republican solution and the Bennett plan conceived in cooperation
with a Democrat, were both better solutions than that passed.Those
of you who were saying "Hatch and Bennett didn't do enough" -- well, make a
contribution to unseat a Democrat in another state, rather than trying to unseat
our own Senator, who will be in a greater position in committees to help our
state.Most of those whining now fit three categories: 1- Angry, uninformed "anyone else" people who THINK they understand the
constitution2- Power hungry people capitalizing on the unrest.3- Bangerter, a below average governor
I know Utah is the most conservative state in the union but the realty is that
unions have kept a balance in the working society.Without unions
many things that are taken for granted today, like 8 hour work days, overtime
after 40 hours, weekends, safer work conditions, etc would of never happened or
if we got rid of unions it would only be a matter of time before we would see
conditions start to revert back where they were before.Anybody who
thinks we should give more power to big businesses will regret it. Businesses
spends millions of dollars on lobbying for laws that benefit them. Shouldn't
labor have the same representation? Unions give the small guy a voice.
Mr. Hatch and Mr. Bennett have both forgotten we have a Constitution and thus
cannot remind anyone in Washington--in any kind of serious way--that the federal
government should be limited by it.Time for both of them to go. Too
bad Mr. Hatch must wait until 2012.By the way, when was the last
time YOU read our Constitution?
Neither Hatch nor Bennett have shown any passion in opposition to what the
progressives are doing to damage the country. We need senators who will FIGHT
for American values! Speak up! As for Hatch's comment that Bennett's tenure
gives him strength in Washington....we want new senators who will champion
conservative values and lead out in the battle, not elite insiders of
longstanding! Both Senators Bennett and Hatch need to go....and take McCain with
Hatch is a career politician that needs to retire. He is a perfect example of
why we need term limits!
Everyone I talk with about this awful health care bill wants to know one thing
-- what does it mean for me and my family? Congressmen don't have to worry about
what it means to them because they exempted themselves from it. Senator Hatch,
why is that a good thing? Congress passed a bill when they didn't care how it
affected themselves and their families because they knew it wouldn't apply to
them. What hypocrites.
Vote them out. Make them go by the Utah state workers pension and benefits -
oh, wait, then they would not get socialized medicine for life like they
currently do.Vote out all incumbents - they don't want term limits? Then
we will limit their term with our vote.Get 'em out!
Senator Hatch isn't up for reelection this year.
I love how Hatch tries to justify the idea of running again in 2012...when he
will have served TWICE as long as the man whose seat he originally ran for 34
years ago, a senator Hatch proclaimed as 'out of touch' because he'd been in
Washington too long. If 18 years made that senator out of touch, Orrin, what
does almost 36 years make YOU??
I am a staunch conservative from Idaho who works in Washington, DC. Sen.
Bennett is an outstanding man, a stalwart statesman who represents Utah values
and deserves reelection. I hope Utah keeps that good man in office. He is a
voice of reason in an often insane place -- Washington, DC.
ALL of our laws should apply to all Americans, specially the ones who pass said
laws....I don't understand what 'problems' would arise if the politicians were
held accountable for their votes? If they were affected personally perhaps
they'd be more frugal in who they accepted monies from & how they vote?Get
rid of the class warfare...starting in D.C.
Mr Hatch, do you mean to say a senator with seniority get more votes per call
than novice senator?
Hatch and Bennett are a vote for reason?When Hatch and Bennett were
rubber stamping every boneheaded idea George "W" Bush had...were they reasonable
then? The only real difference between Bush and Obama is scale. Obama is pushing
more debt then Bush but not too much more. In fact, look at the Republican
counter-proposal to the Obama Stimulus. Obama is doing $9.6 trillion over 10
years, the GOP wanted to do $8.3 trillion. So the difference? Both support
MASSIVE debt, just the Democrats a little more.So $8.3 trillion in
new debt is reasonable? But $9.6 trillion is not? Hmmmm I see.Both
Hatch and Bennett belong to the same good ol boys club that is fighting over
scraps with the Obama administration. In the end all three are cut from the same
massive 'government knows all' clothe.Bennett in 2010 then Hatch and
Obama in 2012.
Yes, what Obama cried for change needs to occur -- beginning with both houses of
Congress and next with Obama. Throw every one of them out, starting with Pelosi
It is time for a Constitutional amendment that places TERM LIMITS FOR CONGRESS -
just as Congress got one years ago to limit the term of the President (during
Roosevelt's time). That is the big problem that faces the people. Congress
becomes so mired in personal benefits that they become too susceptible to
lobbyists and special interests. WE NEED TO THROW ALL THE RASCALS OUT OF OFFICE
AND START AGAIN! And that includes Hatch. The longer he has been in office the
more liberal he has become - such as his buddying up to Teddy Kennedy.ITS TIME FOR CHANGE. CHANGE THE ENTIRE CONGRESS!
Bennett could not ask for a better gift. 7 opponents will divide up the anti
Bennett vote so many ways it will be meaningless. If you are serious
about doing anything except making a little noise, get smart and lose 6 of the
opponents. There is lots to be mad about but you have to act in ways
that will win or it is all meaningless.
Hatch and Bennett are actually the voices of reason and wisdom in this state,
Our Representatives in Congress have let us down. In November lets vote for
change. We need new Senators representing the people. Vote for Senator Hatch's
Senator Hatch you are out of touch. You believe healthcare is a priviledge for
the wealthy and not a basic human right. But don't worry, if you ever get
really sick, you can just drive right over to the hospital and your government
paid insurance will make sure you get good care. Your fellow Utahns who are
sick can just rot in the street because they can't afford to get care. We need
better in America. Time to replace Senator Hatch.
Here's the thing -- Hatch says we need to return him and Bennett to the Senate
because they have been leading the fight against the Obama administration's
socialist agenda. Even if you accept that as completely true, then they have
been a dismal failure. If what you are trying to do is a failure, then it's time
to let someone else try.
"I share their anger." No Mr. Hatch, we are angry at you.