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Utah Jazz: C.J. Miles fouled Kevin Durant according to the NBA

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  • Not Karl
    April 8, 2010 11:18 p.m.

    I refuse to believe that an NBA official missed a call.

  • Double Standards in the NBA
    April 8, 2010 4:42 p.m.

    If the players and coaches can't comment on the refs performance than neither should the NBA front office. What is good for the goose should be good enough for the gantner. What ever that means!

  • CB
    April 8, 2010 3:52 p.m.

    Follow the money! That's what important to the NBA.
    Got to put on a good show and that is determined
    by where the draw is. I lost my innocence with the NBA several years ago when it was obvious they had their 'protected ones' and the Refs seemed to be 'blind' to certain aggressive players.

  • Idahoan
    April 8, 2010 2:48 p.m.

    Way to de-legitimize a win NBA.

  • Why now?
    April 8, 2010 1:51 p.m.

    What this really means is that the nba wants everyone to know that Kevin Durrant is their new poster boy, and refs should continue to protect him like they did Dwane Wade in the finals against Dallas.

  • I thought...
    April 8, 2010 1:29 p.m.

    it was an overacting job at mid court.

  • TheWiz
    April 8, 2010 1:08 p.m.

    While, as a Jazz fan, this should have been called, what about New Year's Eve 2009? There was a call on Paul Millsap that cost the Jazz the game. If we're complaining about about Durant being fouled on the last play, why didn't we hear about Millsap?

    I don't like to throw around the "Everyone hates Utah" idea, but why didn't we hear JA Adande (sp?) say anything about the phantom Millsap foul on New Year's Eve?

    If the NBA even THINKS about replaying this (somehow, as Utah and OKC won't be playing again until at least the playoffs), then they should seriously consider taking back the New Year's Eve game; only under that condition would it be fair. Either that, or we let each game stand as is.

  • So
    April 8, 2010 1:00 p.m.

    By the same standard there are lots of fouls that are not called during the game.

    I guess it only matters and is worth discussing because it happens at the end of the game vs. during?

    What a pile of hypocrisy the NBA is.

  • Me, Myself and I
    April 8, 2010 12:59 p.m.

    Why would the NBA make this statement/correction? All it does is make them look worse than we already knew they were. The officials are horrible and give calls to star players all the time. If Durant was fouled then Jordan's game 6 push off on Bryon Russell was a foul too. They didn't come out then and correct themselves because a championship was decided by it. David Stern wake up...you're not as smart as you think you are. People see right through your smug arrogant facade to what you truly are, Tim Donaghy's role model, you've fixed many more games as commissioner than that poor scapegoat ever did as a ref.

  • Adding to What Foul!
    April 8, 2010 12:50 p.m.

    I totally agree with the red flags and instant replay review:)

    How about the NBA hiring a couple of former referees or just avid fans to review game films of each and every game and then submit the missed calls or no calls to the league which could then issue a statement each day of the calls that were wrong. Scores could be kept for each referee and we could even bet on how many they'd each have for any given game.

    This would certainly provide fodder for us bloggers and make the game much funner to dissect and Vegas oddsmakers would have more things to handicap.

  • RE: KJ
    April 8, 2010 10:50 a.m.

    The difference is the NBA would not make a statement about it. sure fans would be mad but you wouldn't hear a peep out of the NBA and I think that is what most posters are upset about.

  • grouchyoldncjazzfan
    April 8, 2010 9:55 a.m.

    Here we go folks. First step to instant replay in the nba. Sad, so sad.

  • What Foul!
    April 8, 2010 9:32 a.m.

    I think they should impliment instant replay and give the coaches red flags to throw on the court except at the last two minute of each quarter where the referees will review every play. The game will last four hours and people will get more for their money. Games tied at the end of regulation should go to a free throw shoot out.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 8, 2010 9:19 a.m.

    Wheres the statement on carmelo laying on the floor as if injured? This is not how you play basketball, its an attack at every fan who watched that game, it mars professionalism, it mars the game. By letting this go, the nba allows itself to be mared.
    It doesn't hesitate to issue a statement, basically nullifying a jazz win, but it allows carmelo to act like hes in kindgergarten. melo is not as good as durant, get over it melo, if that hit knocked the wind out of you, you are a wimp and you lose all my respect, if you are laying on the ground and faking an injury, again, there is not only reason to not respect you, there is reason to despise you, yet, the nba does nothing, no investigation, no suspension, what?

  • All the bad calls
    April 8, 2010 8:28 a.m.

    What a stupid move by the NBA. If they're going to make a statement like this, then they need to be consistent and make a public statement on all bad calls. Where's the statement on the foul (assault) on Deron Williams when he tried to dunk and was body slammed? Where's the statement on the call on CJ Miles seconds earlier that clearly was not a foul? Basically, the NBA should have just come out and said this was the worst officiated game in decades. What a ridiculous thing for the NBA to do. They just keep giving me more reasons not to watch NBA games.

  • Anonymous
    April 8, 2010 7:51 a.m.

    Lakers Coach Jackson fined $35000 by the league for criticizing refes. Who will fined the NBA for them criticizing the refes. They didn't change the outcome of the game. So why make a statement about the last play of the game.
    You made a good call ref.

  • nba
    April 8, 2010 7:36 a.m.

    should be fined for talking about the ref. phil jackson was just fined 35.000 for talking about bad calles. what is the differance? there were bad calls the whole game every game. i dont get it. guess they think durrant is the face of the nba so they give him his personel press release? i stopped watching baskett ball for 10 years because of the calls jordon got it was sickening to watch a game. its about that bad now with kolby starting with durrant. you can average a lot of points a game if you go to the foul line 15 times a game. they need to call it the same for every player from kolby to the rookie.

  • Anonymous
    April 8, 2010 6:35 a.m.

    Whatever the case, the NBA has the worst refs in the world. I can't tell if the are lazy, if they are corrupt, or if they are incompetent. I lean towards corruption and that the outcome of games are influenced and special players get special attention.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 8, 2010 3:49 a.m.

    I know this isn't related to the miles no foul call, but if the nba is going to issue a statement on this, and then do nothing to what carmelo pulled in okc last night, then i'm a pretty upset fan of the nba. I'm shocked they'd make a statement on this foul call, now I'll wait to see if they do anything about carmelo who is a weirdo, laying on the floor as if injured. If the nba is going to pose as if they are legitimate, then they should investigate these antics of carmelo and issue a statement, followed by a suspension, unbelievable. there should be an apology for subjecting nba fans to players like carmelo, i have no desire watching this ultimate fake, i'll watch durant, and i'll be happy even if he beats the jazz, because i respect him and his game is pretty good. this is why i can't stand seeing denver win, smith, carmelo, these are a couple of the worst characters in the league, and the nba seems to promote this team, i'm sickened to my stomach.

  • josemb
    April 8, 2010 2:32 a.m.

    i find it hard to accept when a call or no call goes against my team, especially if it could've altered the out come of the game. remember Jordan's push off against bryon russel in an NBA Finals game? but, the referees have a job to do. and i think they do a good job. they make mistakes but that's because they are humans. they are, in fact, paid to give judgement calls--or no calls--during the game. a foul call is a judgement call. the referre calls it the way he judges it to be. that's how it goes. otherwise, we should just remove the refs from the game and just replay every foul, travelling, error, and other things going on in the court. and that would be really stupid. i think a foul or no foul--unless a flagrant one--should never be subjected to an opinion by the NBA officials unless they want to reverse it. why comment on something that's over and done with? what's the point? they would just be undermining a ref's authority on the game the next time that ref officiates a game.

  • The Jazz also beat the Bulls!
    April 8, 2010 1:39 a.m.

    Wonderful NBA, Now I officially petition for you to re-review the JAZZ vs BULLS NBA finals to tell all the fans that Jordan pushed off on the game winning shot (not to mention dozens of phantom calls that sent him to the line for numerous freebies) and that the Jazz really should have won the finals!

    Why did the NBA not want to get That blatant truth off their chests also? :)

  • Re: J.R.
    April 7, 2010 11:19 p.m.

    It sounds like it's the other people whining. The Jazz finally got a break. Even then, the foul was miniscule.

  • Re: J.R.
    April 7, 2010 11:06 p.m.

    Amen to that!!!!

  • J.R.
    April 7, 2010 10:45 p.m.

    JAZZ FANS = Leagues biggest whiners......

  • okc players and nba criers
    April 7, 2010 10:33 p.m.

    refs didnt call a foul so there was no foul. simiple as that. quit crying

  • Weighing in
    April 7, 2010 10:32 p.m.

    "And Michael Jordan DID push off on Bryan Russell."

  • GoodGuyGary
    April 7, 2010 10:24 p.m.

    "Human error is part of the game." from a wise NBA coach.

  • unbelievable
    April 7, 2010 10:14 p.m.

    the ref didn't see it therefore there was no foul. like the 2002 western conf finals with kings vs lakers; kobe elbowed bibby and kobe stumbled. bibby went down with an injury but the refs "claimed" they didn't have the right angle to see it. So, from that standpoint if the ref didn't see it it was no foul. How would it feel if a game you worked so hard to win ends up in a win and people who sit in armchairs "declares" a foul?? If it were the other way around people would say "don't blame the refs"...

  • What a joy.....
    April 7, 2010 10:08 p.m.

    to have watched such a sweet and unoffensive ending to a great game. that light touch on the final shot was of course, the work of an excellent defensive Jazzman. If it was a foul, it certainly was a gentlemans foul....Go Jazz

  • Cathie
    April 7, 2010 9:44 p.m.

    I agree with most of the above comments an add that players like Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Duncan an now Durant get alot of calls that should be non-calls how else do they get their scores built up. lol There were so many calls against the Jazz I didnt hear thunder complain abt them. Jazz usually have to take those calls an use as incentive. Jazz earn their wins with team cohesiveness. Go Jazz!!!!!

  • KJ
    April 7, 2010 9:28 p.m.

    Change the end result to D-Will getting hacked on a three at the end of the game and it doesn't get called. How many Jazz fans would be saying what they're saying now, "bad calls happen throughout the game, that's what happens...blah, blah, blah." My guess is that zero Jazz fans would be playing the "happens to everyone" card had their guy been the one to get hacked on the lost shot.

  • Anonymous
    April 7, 2010 8:43 p.m.

    If it were any of the Jazz players instead of Kevin Durrant, would the NBA still come out and say the officials blew the call? I DON'T THINK SO.

  • KlhinCC
    April 7, 2010 8:09 p.m.

    Did the official say the jazz should have won the championship game because Jordan pushed off? Bunch of OVERPAID BABIES! Wouldn't it be interesting if they went to work the next day and were told by a H.R. Representative that the nba is closing its doors. Could you ball players make a living if the nba fell apart? Oh wait the Prez would bail out the nba.

  • Now it's even.
    April 7, 2010 7:49 p.m.

    Back on new year's eve, the Jazz were up one with a few seconds left, Oklahoma City missed a shot, Millsap cleanly rebounded it, and the refs called a phantom foul on Millsap giving Oklahoma City two free throws, which they made, for the win.

    So Oklahoma City got the call on that game, and the Jazz got the no call last night. Now it's even.

  • Ok, ok
    April 7, 2010 7:42 p.m.

    It was a foul. A small one, but still a foul. I would be upset if this was just one of many fouls called in favor of the Jazz. However, it wasn't. In fact, had there been fewer bad calls, the Jazz would have won in regulation. The refs brought it to overtime and good thing they didn't destroy yet another game for the Jazz. The Jazz are usually not favored by the Jazz, so receiving special treatment is a rare treat.

    I just watched "Michael Jordan's Final Shot" on youtube. That was way, way worse than the brush of wrists last night. Where's the NBA announcement on that?

  • Duh
    April 7, 2010 7:41 p.m.

    So by making a statement do we put the two teams together and replay the last second? What a bunch of Morons. Never called on Superstars though are they Michael Jordan!

  • Chuck
    April 7, 2010 7:39 p.m.

    Just for kicks, I thought I'd play the video of the last shot and blow it up large. Going through frame by frame, I see why the refs did not call a foul. The most telling frame is the first contact by Miles. His hand is clearly on the ball. The next two frames show Durrant throwing his arms wildly to the side to "draw a foul". Homer? No. After first having contact with the ball (generally called a block) there was contact. This no-call does not deserve all the attention. First came a good block.

  • jake
    April 7, 2010 7:21 p.m.

    I totally agree it was a foul. but when was the last you saw an official make a call like that at the end of a game? how many times have we seen Kobe pushing off the get a open game winner? (lakers vs kings) is one example. look at the NCAA championship game, if you look at the screen on that last play, he set a big time illegal screen, but refs will always let the game play out when it comes to the last play.

  • Column, or sporting news brief?
    April 7, 2010 7:15 p.m.

    Buckley sez:

    "The NBA suggested as much Wednesday, when it released a statement on the no-call of Jazz swingman C.J. Miles' obvious foul on Oklahoma City All-Star Kevin Durant in the final second of Utah's 140-139 overtime home win over the Thunder on Tuesday night."

    "obvious foul"? Wow. That's bold stuff. I thought reporting was supposed to be objective, unless of course you are writing a personal column or blog, which this appears to be neither.

  • what else is new?
    April 7, 2010 7:09 p.m.

    so durantula's entourage gets all weepy watching the re-runs in slo-mo ad nauseum on sportscenter, hearing all the mitchy boney tweets, seeing all the clever and vitriolic smacktalk on myface threads and forums and they go wailing and whining to lodge a complaint all the way to the n-b-a.

    cry me a river, OKC/KD. scoreboard. scoreboard.

    hey, go watch the masters for some drama.

  • From the replay
    April 7, 2010 7:06 p.m.

    It didn't look like a foul. Miles had to come from the side, and in the upper body there was no contact. It was close, but not a touch. If anything, Durant made Miles "foul" him.

  • Bias
    April 7, 2010 7:01 p.m.

    I agree with many of the other comments, if the NBA makes a statement on this foul, it has to be done to other fouls. The foul call on Paul Millsap in OKC sure didn't generate any attention and that too was at the end of the game.

  • In Brief
    April 7, 2010 6:40 p.m.

    PC NBA BS

  • Anonymous
    April 7, 2010 6:26 p.m.

    everything happens for a reason..I think the block came first before the contact in the hand, if you saw how Durant shoot the ball he was extending his legs always, Miles came from the side so definitely there will be contact, actually Durant should be charge with an offensive foul because of his legs extending making the defender to commit a foul

  • Layne
    April 7, 2010 6:02 p.m.

    Why doesn't the NBA come out all the time when that stuff happens. Why only when it involves a superstar. It definitely didn't look foul to me!!

  • Eugene
    April 7, 2010 5:38 p.m.

    The NBA just perpetuated the problem by coming out like this on a single play. Why not comment on all non-calls in a game? Why not comment on the called fouls that weren't fouls at all!

    Dumb move, NBA! But that is why you are in the office and not playing or officiating on the floor. You are simply back seat drivers making a after-the-fact comment that doesn't change that the officals let it go and the Jazzmen won.

    Go Jazz!

  • Rudy
    April 7, 2010 5:27 p.m.

    I think the NBA officiating is a joke. There are so many no calls or anticipation calls it is frustrating to watch the games. It seems whenever we play L.A Lakers Kobe seems to get the calls in his favor. I feel there is alot of favortism with some of the refs and the guy furthest away from the ball is calling the shots. And it is not just the Jazz that are getting shafted, I`ve seen it at other NBA games. The refs are consistently inconsistent.

  • Rich
    April 7, 2010 5:08 p.m.

    To make things fair the Jazz should give home court advantage to Oklahoma City during the playoffs.

    Seriously I think TV announcers who call for referees not to interfere at the ends of games, arguing that the players should be allowed to determine the outcome of the game, are idiots. Non-calls are just as important as bad calls during a game and particularly in the last few seconds. I think referees should be consistent, calling fouls anytime there is enough contact that it forces a player to lose the ball or miss a shot. I frankly was sickened by the amount of physical contact allowed during the NCAA playoffs. Defenders were allowed to knock dribblers sideways many times, and even when the ball was lost, many non-calls permitted the offending team to take possession of the ball. On the other hand, I think the NBA is doing a better job this year than any year in recent memory of regulating the officiating in games. It used to be that the star player got the call the vast majority of the time in close situations. Jordan got away with traveling, palming and offensive fouls at will.

  • Why?
    April 7, 2010 5:08 p.m.

    why would the NBA make a statement, saying that the officials missed a call. I think its just dumb because NBA players can't say a word about officials or they are fined. I also think that its hard to tell if CJ Miles did in fact foul Durant. It does kind of look like Miles may have blocked the ball. If it was a foul, i don't think it was that noticable. Those types of fouls go unnoticted or uncalled all the time in the NBA

  • anonymous
    April 7, 2010 5:06 p.m.

    If the NBA is making statements on fouls, I wish they would of started when Michael Jordan pushed Brian Russell out of the way to win the championship. Win some you lose some.

  • Hmm..
    April 7, 2010 5:04 p.m.

    Since when did the NBA start reviewing plays and issuing statements as to whether the plays in question were fouls or not? Maybe they will start printing that with the boz scores: how many no-calls there were. Wow. What a stupid thing. Kevin Durant is just crying because he isn't getting babied as much as Kobe yet. Must be a hard life. Play basketball and get paid millions for it. Some people are never happy with anything.

  • Idahoan
    April 7, 2010 5:02 p.m.

    Refs are intimidated at Energy Solutions Arena? I opine that they are probably more intimidated at the Staples Center. I would guess that intimidation has to do with the players (stars) involved, not the court or arena. I will grant that there are exceptions: LA, New York, any other place that has lots of celebrities in attendance, particularly courtside.

    The replay does appear to show a foul on the last shot. I didn't see the whole game, only some of overtime. I don't know about all that happened. However, I did see a foul giving Durant free throws that was a bad call. Maybe the bad call and the no call cancel out each other?

  • They're probably right...
    April 7, 2010 4:54 p.m.

    ...but I obviously don't follow sports closely enough, because I don't ever remember a statement like that from the NBA. Usually it's the opposite.
    For example, if it had been the Thunder's coach
    complaining about the ref'ing, he would probably be reprimanded by the NBA.
    So why does the NBA take the unusual step of criticizing it's own officiating?

  • Anonymous
    April 7, 2010 4:53 p.m.

    How bout when Deron got tackled going up for a dunk

  • Wow
    April 7, 2010 4:52 p.m.

    Yeah it was a foul, but in an average NBA game, how many fouls are missed? Even in important situations, it seems like there are missed calls (fouls, traveling, etc) on a pretty regular basis. But for the NBA to come that quickly to the defense of one of its stars... come on!

    I love Durant's game, but if Serge Ibaka takes that last shot for the Thunder last night, you wouldn't hear a peep out of the league office. That's the one thing absolutely wrong with the NBA--2 sets of rules, one for stars and one for everyone else.

  • mattyjo
    April 7, 2010 4:52 p.m.

    Let's be good sports and give OKC the win.

  • Last second
    April 7, 2010 4:52 p.m.

    If this would have happened at the end of the 1st half this would be a non-issue. What about the no call when Deron was pummeled going to the hoop? Not a last second shot so therefore no statement by the NBA claiming Deron should have taken a couple of free throws. Does it change the outcome? No. Jazz win, Thunder lose.

  • Crazy Jazz fans!
    April 7, 2010 4:51 p.m.

    I can't tell you how hardheaded Jazz fans can be! My fanatic Jazz friends were practically yelling at me last night telling me that Miles didn't foul him.

    I wish refs would stop getting so intimidated at the ESA (aka cement box).

  • Foul Foul
    April 7, 2010 4:51 p.m.

    When will people learn that the game is not about whether fouls are real are not. The uncertainty of the ref's decisions, his OPINION based on what he SEES, is a facet of the game both teams deal with. That's basketball, my friends. Welcome to reality.

  • Suns Fan
    April 7, 2010 4:47 p.m.

    You have got to be kidding me. First, why on earth are they coming out saying yes, it was a foul. They were not there, next to the players in real time. Basketball is a contact sport, and contact is made every play. The officials are there to interpret the contact, and it was interpreted as no foul, therefore, no foul occurred. How can they undermine their referees like that? Should all contact be interpreted as a foul?

  • dumb
    April 7, 2010 4:46 p.m.

    The NBA has no business releasing statements like that unless they want to go through the entire game and point out every bad call made. It just happened to be the last one. This isn't the first time that the ref's have swallowed their whistles on the last play of the game and I'm sure it won't be the last. For the NBA to single out this game and that one play is hypocritical at best.

  • Bill
    April 7, 2010 4:43 p.m.

    Did they review the phantom call Durant got a couple posessions before to get within one? I would like the NBA to publicly make a statement to say that it definetly should not have been a foul. In fact, I demand it.

  • All or None
    April 7, 2010 4:43 p.m.

    I understand the frustration Thunder fans may have at the non-call at the end of the game. However, how many other fouls were not called during the course of the game? Let's be honest, not every foul is called during a NBA basketball game. It's true that the non-call in question here would have made a difference. However, so would have every other non-call during the game. If the NBA were to go back and give Durant the chance to shoot free throws because of the non-call. They should review the entire game and allot free throws to every player who had a non-call foul.

  • Anonymous
    April 7, 2010 4:41 p.m.

    MAY I REMIND YOU:

    NEW YEARS EVE, 2009.

    If you don't remember, go watch the end of that game. Watch Paul Millsap get hacked to death.

    Justice was served last night.

  • No one is denying Durant
    April 7, 2010 4:41 p.m.

    was fouled. Sorry OKC.

  • Henry Drummond
    April 7, 2010 4:39 p.m.

    Confession is good for the soul! Thank you NBA for confessing to the obvious. How about coming clean with the numerous other fouls that were mis-called last night. Any comment on the blocked shot that landed D-Will on the floor?

  • Henry Drummond
    April 7, 2010 4:39 p.m.

    Confession is good for the soul! Thank you NBA for confessing to the obvious. How about coming clean with the numerous other fouls that were mis-called last night. Any comment on the blocked shot that landed D-Will on the floor?

  • Yeah
    April 7, 2010 4:30 p.m.

    Probably was, but sometimes the bad call goes for you, and sometimes it goes against you. This time it was for us. That's sports!

  • three11stu
    April 7, 2010 4:27 p.m.

    I totally agree with the last call, which was a foul on the Jazz. rnHowever, I think that only makes up for a handful of no calls that went the Thunders way last night. Instead of looking at the calls that go against the leagues best players, these officials should be looking at every game.rnThe Jazz showed a lot of heart in the game last night, and in the end, I think the better team won.rn