Last post for now, I will let other thoughts. The posts today by the way are
great. Far as Price., I feel top to bottom outside Denver we have the best
talent for 3 points in the NBA. I am beginning to agree maybe Ron
should be backup shooting guard. There are certain matchups that he and DWIL
could work possibly vs the "buffoon" Nellie's squad tomorrow vs Monta and
Stephen Curry.Actually, I think Monta is hurt, but either way, the
"buffoon" has so many small mid size tweeners who shoot..Parker is a new long
range artist, the guy replacing Raja from France.I would like to see
Gaines get more time then backing up DWIL. I was still upset to see Maynor go,
however, I like Sundiata...I like COmbo guards he just needs experience. Price
at times is too herky jerky. But friends--he was in there at start of 4th
Quarter and his energy and defense were helpful in slowing down the Knicks
during the few minutes last night we played DHave a good day....
My typo- I meant will try not be over emotional. Sloan has a good offensive
system. defensively, I just wish the guys would trust help d and proper
switches and just stay in a man's jock and not let shots go up unless they are
ridiculous 25-30 footers from straight away or at an angle.The
Knicks lived with this. That Italian guy and David Lee are really the only guys
I like who could maybe fit on the Jazz. I think that coach stinks frankly...To
force your system on guys not capable of playing that way is stubborn. If you
ever hear D Antoni he always acts arrogant and that is the way, defiantly
refuses to adjust and change.Jerry is way way better than him.
I actually will try hard to be over emotional. I respect Houdini. He gave me
some "tough love" last year, and I made a conscientious effort to stop ripping
Sloan. I think this season I have been good, but when I see the bad habits from
last year start up like Indiana game it brings back unpleasant memories how this
team quit last year after Larry passed. I thought last year everyone should
have gone thru a brick wall to try and win the title for all of us and the
state.You cannot always I guess make common sense in life.the 1233 I would not be worry post was--tremendous, 4 defined points all
logical and well written.It hurts because I watched Haywood last
night on split screen on my computer watching our game. Dallas led most of the
night 9-15 points. The post was right earlier "they had killer instinct"
Denver not closer than 7 and Dallas then exploded!!Haywood really
patrols that paint and the Mav announcers raved about his play. If
we had someone who could do this regularly, I would have few complaints about
If we really work hard on the D,the rest will be OK.We are very lucky to have
won that game,if NY would have hit any shots at all,it would`ve been a big
L,Come-on guys tighten it up (Archie Bell and the Drells)
Consistency has been a problem with this team for years, even in the Stockton
and Malone era. I would say you have to tag alot of that on the coaching. That
has been the only constant for 20+ years.
last year. He could really help this team if he would play under control and
also really try to play PG. PG means you try to get the best shots
for the rest of the team. Your moves, move not just your man but other opponents
giving your team mates scoring opportunities. PG does not mean
dribbling around until you take a shot out of desperation hoping a team mate
will get a rebound. PG means making the right passes at the right
time to the right people in the right place so they can quickly smoothly make an
efficient shot. I kind of like Price but I hate him as a PG. He
makes some spectacular plays occasionally but he just does not run the offense
very well. Sloan put him in because he is quick. Playing him with
DWill is helpful in some situations. I know the Jazz are road weary
and miss AK. However, the PGs control the pace. They have to make sure the
offense runs and at the right pace. They have been doing very poorly
lately on pace and also running the offense. That along with poor defense will
kill the Jazz.
Yeah the game last night was a little closer than it should be, but we shouldn't
be worried about it. Remember the knicks ended that huge dallas win streak. A
few things that need to happen by playoff time are1. Ak needs to get
healthy and in his groove prior to playoff time2. CJ needs to learn to
give a solid game night in and night out, Im always impressed with him when his
shot is on and he takes the ball to the hole. But too often he comes out and
jacks up ridiculous shots and constantly gets beat by his man.3. Price
needs to learn how to control his energy. His energy and athleticism can be huge
assets especially in a playoff game, but if he gets out of control were going to
lose any lead we had built up while Deron was in. Im definitely not opposed to
Price getting a few shooting guard minutes.4. the whole team needs to get
control of the defense issues that have popped up lately. Having AK back should
help with that. This could mostly be fixed by focusing and making crisp
rotations like before.
I hear a lot about keeping Boozer. This has been one of his best years. I hope
if they do sign him again they make something in his contract about the number
of games he must contribute in, and attend. He seams to have an urgency and
energy that must continue every year. Can that be done?
Everytime CJ Miles steps on the court I cringe. He's not an asset to this team.
He's never saw a shot he doesn't like, plays poor defense, rebounds only if it
falls in his hands, can't take care of the ball, doesn't show enough hustle to
be a Jazz player. All others make the team better, he doesn't.
If their was a more worthless back up pg than price it might have been brevin
knight, but they were both bad.Price provides energy that is needed
at the shooting guard, not at the point. He gambles way too much on defense and
thinks he can block like 5 shots a game when he should just be putting a hand in
guys faces.He gets beat so often and yet everyone calls him a
speedster, he needs to get some speed laterally cuz he consistantly gets beat
and usually swats at his guy and fouls him.Energy doesn't help when
you come in and dont run the offense as a PG. 2nd quarter was a prime example of
that. He makes it too hard, give the ball to the money makers and don't jack up
every other shot when you come in, that's all we ask.0 assists is
the kicker, Dwill 14, price 0. how is it possible that you run the offense and
can't get an assist in 15 mins of play.We need better from him
during the playoffs or gaines needs to come in because this is getting scary.
I'm glad at the latter part of the posts, people started to realize that this
knicks team is actually dangerous as the indiana team. Beat Dallas
at Dallas right in the midst of that crazy streak and beat Denver on their home
court.So lets give them some credit for coming to play.This was a game where fes or KK wouldn't have made a difference cuz they were
just jackin up outside shots.But Korver was just stinking it up out
there, wow, and they just kept running plays for him after he was 1 for 5,
nothing change, Dwill needed to keep the ball out of Korver's hands cuz he was
not on last night.I was yelling at the Tv at Jerry to call a timeout
like i normally do during games and he actually did. He seemed to try and manage
a squad taht seemed to want to give this game away, so good coaching night
Jerry.Dwill needs to be the leader that attacks the rim and dishes,
not a jump shooter that looks like a rookie throwing up shots cuz he's hot for a
The fact that price didn't score a lot is almost irrelevant. He plays with so
much energy that it inspires the rest of the team to raise their level of play.
Sloan saw this and that is why he played the entire 4th quarter! His defense
was active which made the difference in this game, that, and when Boozer and
Williams finally came back in after a long rest you knew the game was over.
Without Matthews coming off the bench, Price is the only energy player left to
Oh and Todd, about my comment the other day. You know I wouldn't question your
loyalty to the Jazz. I used to come on here and argue with you after every game
or even every article, but we've realized we kind of think alike more often than
not. I know you get emotional after every game, win or lose, so usually i just
let you vent. Not everyone on here is going to always agree with you, but who
posts on here regularly would know you're a fan.
he is lazy!
Every win can't be pretty and every win against a lowly team can't be a blowout,
so i'm happy we got the W. Sure you can't play like that against a better team
but luckily for us, we didn't play a better team. A big win for what it means,
now we need to focus down the stretch and not let games out of our hands. Dallas
could lose ground after their back to back, so lets see how things look after
this week.The way people post and complain on here, you'd have no
idea we're fighting for the #2 seed.
D-Will had a great first quarter offensively. On defense he was horrible,
however, and that continued through the game. After hitting those threes in the
first quarter, however, he went cold, and when the Jazz really needed to go
inside, he kept jacking up jump shots. Normally he would work hard to ensure
that the Jazz got a good shot after missing a couple of long jumpers, but last
night he seemed to think that he was hot enough and that the Knicks were bad
enough that he could be selfish offensively for a change. Hey, we're all human,
but I'm glad it was the Knicks instead of a better team because the Jazz finally
righted the ship. It seemed as though Price got a few more minutes than normal
because Sloan was trying to get Williams to get under control again. But then
Price started to do the same thing. And then D-Will went back in and threw up a
couple of clunkers immediately. That's when he finally started to play well
again -- just in time. We'll take the W.
EXcept if only maybe 3 of those 60 zillion "3s" the Jazz allowed the Knicks to
put up go in, he would not be looking very smart today.....It looked
like last night back to "okurrie and snoozie" as in "ah let the Knicks score as
they drive by because we will get it right back"I expect everyone to
put in more than 6-8 minutes of defense tomorrow night, The Warriors will
probably shoot 30 3s. Expect many to go in.,...
Funny Lilliputian's like you think Sloan looks small...
This game serves as the example of what all of us Jazz fans
fear....inconsistency. 44 points in the first quarter? 16 in the fourth? Yes, we
are in 3rd place, but Phoenix and Denver have a knife at our throat and any
little slip-up and then we will get pushed back multiple spots. Ronnie Price,
TWO points, ZERO assists in 15 minutes? that will not work come playoff time. a
win is a win, but the jazz still have more to prove before the playoffs start.
this is a team capable of the 2 seed, the only way that will come though is
through increased consistency. go jazz, you can do it
One thing I like about Jerry is that he recognizes what will happen. I heard he
was upset about the 3 pointers and in the 4th quarter that Jazz settled for jump
shots. Who can create their own shot or dribble penetrate? Boozer in the post?
Williams need to make this HIS team and become that guy.
I will give credit to sloan for this one, he was definitely more prepared than
the players. His timeouts were effective, but if this game on the road, we
would've lost. Gs is a similar nightmare waiting to happen, as alot
think, so do i, at this point, a w is a w, truth be told, we're not at full
strength. Sloan didn't let the guys slip up on this one, so, credit where
credit is due. We're going to need games like last night from sloan.No
more, throwing it on the players, blaming them, I've seen you sloan,
if he can't get this team to pull out a w at home against gs, there is going to
be some questions around the team, and it will be on sloan,he showed last
night, even when dwill and no one wants to play the system, he can make enough
adjustments to keep the team on track.the players should be putting in
extra time,obviously, the jazz need to take every precaution possible,
anything is possible against gs,it might be a good game to work in
I see where some of you are worried. The players said it all, dwill and the
rest of them know too.Ironically, at home against ny, this was probably
the biggest game of the year so far. So, even though it was ny, I would expect
the gs game to be a similar test for the jazz, can they stay focused enough to
win a game they should easily win. Knowing the pitfalls of complacency,
the nba season is long and you know, i'm not going to jump on the guys backs for
not 'getting up' for ny, but its definitely taking a huge risk. The good
teams and players are gearing down and putting in extra time, thats what it's
all about to stay prepared, luckily, dallas and denver are also having problems
getting prepared for 'less important' games. Phx too, though we have a game
lead and play them at home on the final game, they smell blood. denver is
definitely on a hard slide, and they could drop even further, or they could get
hot and get the second seed,after tonight, dallas has the most talent, if
we can somehow sneak by them,
I keep hearing about 'this time of year'! In fact, where we be with W's in
Minnesota that 'other' time of the year?
As always the posters are way too critical of the Jazz. From the comments it
seems that you expect the Jazz to win every game by 30 points. 2nd
quarter the Jazz were hoping that NY would lay down, they didn't, played loose
and got back in the game. NY runs the most complicated offensive
sets in the league, its stuff the Jazz NEVER see and the unfamiliar can be
surprisingly effective. NY has wins against DAL and DEN, yet the
Jazz swept em. Give em credit instead of getting upset over every turnover.
No defense...it just continues game after game.I wish he could get
healthy because the bad defensive outings are piling up and each one brings
risks of losing games we should not.Denver is imploding. Pretty
amazing really. I find it difficult to believe Kenyon Marting can make that
much difference. I don't think it is the fact the coach is out either--its not
like they listen to him. The team stunk till billups got there but
even now he can't hold them together. I said at the beginning of the season
they are always just a step away from blowing up even with all their talent.They could spiral clear to the 8 seed and play lakers 1st series--how
great would that be?We can dream!
the moment price entered the game in the 2nd quarter i knew the game would
become close. price is clueless when playing the point. i've seen that in a few
games before. when price subs in for wiliams, the jazz game goes sour. but it's
not entirely price's fault that the game was close. as always, the jazz couldn't
play defense! how else could you let a bottom-feeder score 60 points at utah's
home court?!? no wonder the jazz can't beat the lakers, nuggets and OKC. the
suns might even beat them in the playoffs the way utah plays defense. just
more games. That may or may not drop them out of 5th. SA lost but has been hot
lately. OKC has also won 6 out of the last 10 and POR has won 8 of the last 10.
One or more of them could catch DEN if they can't right the ship.
If the Jazz don't get their act together they also could drop to 4th
or 5th very easily. If Utah were playing well I would expect them to
get the 2 seed but right now it is very hard to tell what teams are going to
have which match ups. How soon is AK back? He makes a tremendous
difference in how the defense performs and also ads rebounds and shooting that
is lacking. Korver tried really hard but the fast paced effected him. CJ played
well at times. He is doing better. The big problem is at PG. The
offense just does not run much of the time. Great individuals plays but the
offense does not run. Lots of TOs, bad timing on shots, bad shots. Not an
efficient offense. The does not get to the right player at the right time.
Agreed Todd, The Warriors can also be hit n miss, so we will need to step up
from tonight performance just in case they get hot.....It's not far
off a year ago that an under manned Warriors came to the ESA & beat an under
prepared Jazz.to get 2nd seed, history cannot repeat itself !!!
44 point 1st qtr and then the snooze button, hard to wake up after the snooze
button was pushed. But really it was the Knicks so not a problem. They usually
don't hit the snooze against quality teams so relax comment posters. Look for a
dominant performance Wed.
A real struggle. I am happy we won. However, New York could not hit a pea in
the ocean or it would have been a different story. Mike D' Antoni is trying to
remain Phoenix East. One problem you need good dishers and shooters to make the
offense work. Talk about stubborn. He makes Sloan look like Tommy
Edison....The game was won the first half of the 4th quarter. This
is when the Jazz finally stepped on defense enough to win this game. Millsap,
Price CJ each a block, Korver. The Knicks had problems scoring with the
intensity around the basket which was critical. Despite this we
could not gain separation. Sloan as usual gave up the 3 point shot and once
again survived the strategy because the Knicks stunk from the outside. A good
shooting or even 1/2 way good shooting night from an opponent, we lose.Another concern not scoring the last 4 minutes. Luckily, New York again
failed to capitalize. Boozer and DWil restored enough order. DWIL 5 and Boozer
2 in 7-0 run gaining enough separation 103-93.A win is a win,
but Golden State can shoot better. Cannot repeat this Wednesday
a win is a win & at this time of the season that's all that matters......2nd seed is possible, here's hoping....
by all of the Jazz players. BUT they were not working that well as a
team. This is not a playoff contender. If they play this bad at home don't
expect much better on the road. Beating WAS on the road and NY (barely) at home
does not impress me much. The Jazz are not as hapless as DEN right
now but they are flirting with it. PHX has an easy schedule so does DAL. The
Jazz might back into the division win and a 4th seed. They may or may not have
home field advantage. There are to many good teams in the West that
are actually playing well. The Jazz are not one of them. If they do
not get their offensive act together and and put forth a consistent defensive
effort you are going to see a repeat of last years swoon. The Jazz
played hard. Part of the time they played well. Most of the time they did not
play smart. Al Harrington would be an excellent pick up for the Jazz
if Boozer leaves.
Re Houdini : Didn't see your post until after I posted, but I agree with you,
this was an ugly win and I'm not happy with the way the Jazz have been playing.
The way they are playing makes me worry.Everyone from 2nd to 7th are so
close that there isn't any room for error and if the Jazz aren't careful they
will lose out on home court advantage.If they play well, definitely 3rd
and maybe 2nd, but like I said, the way they are playing worries me. they don't
seem to be playing with enough emotion, intensity and determination.
DWill and Booz had very good games, Milsap pretty good, everyone else just OK.
Maybe it's just me but I don't see the Jazz playing with enough emotion
and determination. They won tonight but it wasn't pretty and they didn't
clamp down on D and exert their will enough on O. CJ in particular hasn't
been playing with emotion, he is trying to play within the system and that is
good, but he needs to play with excitement, emotion, & energy.I think by
Sunday, Phx will be ahead of the Jazz and I'm worried about NO they are playing
well lately, since CP3 came back. Houston is a back to back and that could
be trouble. I don't see us beating LA, there. I would like to see
only one loss but probably 2 and possibly 3 if they don't step it up.It a
good thing several of the teams, like SA, OKC, & Denver have more difficult
schedules than the Jazz.
I loved it when CJ smoked McGrady on that dunk.
Price's block and then layup was pretty cool.
Ugly ,you took the words right out......just like the Wizards game we won,but
geez,can`t we play a little d? We miss AK a bunch more than most want to
admit.I`m not one bit pleased with this effort.If we play this way aginst
GS,they`ll beat us handily
problem tonight. Korver could not hit given the fast pace. CJ played pretty well
much of the time. Korver made some great defensive plays and some clutch FTs.
is a prime example of why it is hard to have faith in Utah. There are times when
both DWill and Price just do not run the offense. The defense was also poor at
times. But the big problem is pace. NY zoned at times and the Jazz offense
faltered. Ordinarily I would blame Sloan but I think he just does
not have control of this team. They flat out do not run the offense unless they
want to. DAL grabbed DEN by the throat and never let up. Utah almost
blew it at home against a bad team. PHX is breathing down their back. GS is a another really bad game. If the Jazz try to fun and gun with them or
PHX they are going to lose. The Jazz has to play to their own
strengths and not try to play another teams game. Experienced, smart teams do
that. I could become a Price fan if he would play smart (run the
offense instead of jack up shots) and play under control.
You forgot to mention that we gave the Knicks ANOTHER loss to help out our cause
for a better 1st round draft pick!
Great Victory for the Jazz, lets just see if the Jazz can pass up Dallas. The
Jazz, in my opinion, only have 2 really tough games ahead--OKC and LAL. If we
win the games we should and maybe steal a game from either OKC or LAL, who
--lets be honest--have dominated the Jazz this year, the Jazz can win the second