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Published: Sunday, March 28 2010 8:03 p.m. MDT

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Thinkin' Man

You go, gov! States need to reassert their rights, and you have to start somewhere. Trying to take back energy-rich lands is relevant, poignant, and timely.

John

What a joke. Spending $3 million on a case “that legislators’ own attorneys acknowledge has little chance of success”? Has Mark Shurtleff ever heard of the saying pick and choose your battles? Why are we spending money on frivolous lawsuits when there are more important needs for the state? The Republicans need to supply a better attorney general or I am going to start voting for the Democrats.

Rope

Mark Shurtleff has been Utah's Attorney General since 2000. He waited all these years to engage in this altercation. Wouldn't he and the republican governor have a better chance to reclaim these lands during the last 10 years when republicans controlled the white house and the congress at which time the oil topped $145 a barrel. The only logical reason why they're engaging in this lawsuit is purely political. Shurtleff has the aspiration to run for the senate seat and any lawsuit against the federal government will help him lock into that lucrative conservative votes.

rick@rickety

This is a good bill. Utah needs to stand up against the federal government.

xscribe

The government steals/takes the land from the Natives, everyone cheers, except the Natives, of course. But now that the goverment wants to preserve some land by taking it away from "us," well, that's just not right. Any of you ever heard of greed. That's all America is: Greed. That's why we're in the financial mess we're in. And that's why other countries don't like us very much.

California Andy

Shurtliff is correct. What most do not realize is that the federal government is basically fascist in thought and intent (democrat party). This means the government has to control the population absolutely and also the means of production. In the United States, land has hjistorically furthered production. Without it, options are limited. Federal Land seizures are merely part of the entire picture, including gun (citizen) control. They also want to limit our ability to travel (congregate). Obuma's comments that he needs an internal military at least as large as the external military should have put the warning to every thinking American. Especially when he already has that military -- millions strong in an armed citizenry. The latter being the democrats biggest fear. Republicans do not attempt citizen control. Figure it out people!

Sadly

The Gov and his lawmaker buddies have forgotten the oath they swore to uphold the U.S. Constitution.

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." Article 6

@rick 5:12 a.m.

It is a stupid bill. Utah ceded this land to the federal government when Utah was admitted to the union in 1896. You may not like it, but that is what happened. You cannot invalidate a contract just because you don't like it. Maybe it would be better to work with the landowner, rather than against.

We do not want our state to become like most eastern states where private landowners own all the land.

Lawyer fees

The 3 million dollars is to pay lawyers to fight a case they don't expect to win.

The lawyers say it's worth fighting, because they're the ones being paid to fight it.

Hunter

Does the State of Utah actually think that control over public property would make it any easier to circumvent the will of the people in the management of these lands? Is every Utahan of like mind as to how these lands are managed? Does State control of public property just magically make the democratic process evaporate and cause the wrangling over very real issues to just go away? Just because the State controls something does not make it akin to private property.

Bad Judgement Utah

What is the Governor thinking? I long for the days when Huntsman was Governor and had common sense! Spend money on the schools not enacting some ridiculous lawsuit we will loose! This fight has Mike Noel written all over it and no one filed to run against Noel next election! What part of Federal government does Utah not understand? I for one am happy that these lands are owned by the National Park Service and the BLM. I sure notice a lot of National TV shows that highlight our beautiful Federal Lands in Motorcycle/ATV shows, hiking and climbing shows, recreation and travel. Why do we fight it and want to develop, drill it? I hope this crazy fight doesn't stop Cedar Breaks National Monument from moving to National Park status. The only thing this lawsuit will do is make us look foolish in the national press. Thumbs down Herbert.

UnitiedCountiesofUtah

Publicity Stunt and more anti-Obama/anti-democratic majority under the guies of "States rights"

Anonymous

Public is defined as the community or the people as a whole. These are "public lands" They belong to all Americans.

Why is it, I know Point Reyes and other public lands in California belong to all Americans including Utahns but, the governor of Utah believe stealing from Americans is right? What in "Thou Shall Not Steal" did Utah's governor miss learning from his parents as a child growing up in Utah?

Red-States = Red-necks

You go nut-cakes.

All I can say is this was the sort of rhetoric that finally forced Lincoln to come down on the South.

You nuts are wrong,
You will be crushed in the end,
..and the rebel States will spend the next 100 years diggin out of the ashes, and will forever be stigmatized with being a bunch of red-necked, ignorant, backward hicks.

I suggest you tone down the rhetoric, saber rattling, and fear mongering.


...btw, If you're LDS,
Follow the prophet - not your radios.

Eugene

This country and its respective states would not be in the mess we are in right now if we could develop our natural resources. The majority of this country's resources are found under states with the majority under federal control. Western states should have the right to develop these resources in places that were usurped by the federal government under so-called monument status.

Give it a try, Guv! I hope more states follow. By the way, who is going to enforce keeping the state out, the national guard? of Utah? who are sworn to follow the Guv? Will Obama deploy the Army from Afghanistan to come back over and put Utah in its place?

The Constitution places all rights not given by the states to the federal government to be retained by the states. Show me in the constitution where the states gave the federal government the right to "own" any state land! Or take over any state land!

States rule so develop the land and solve our energy problems! Besides Obama is a 1-termer with the Dems seeking the back door to slip out after the massive November landslide!

gud4u

Great, as has been seen in the past; if we don't stand up against the government it will run all over us. Though if we use our rights and speak for ourselves lawfully we can rightfully have access to what God has given us to provide for ourselves and our families - His creation. Lets let the government realize they are employed by us and expect them to stand for right - not filling their own pockets.

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