Comments about ‘Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander in the Middle East, comes to BYU’

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Published: Thursday, March 25 2010 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Crusty

@ the truth
After TWO tours in the mud in Viet Nam I believe I have a clue. That was a political action like every war is a political action. Lie to the troops, tell them they are great and let them go die for some politicians trumped up cause.

Go buy your own clue and then tell me what you have found.

Cindy

It is my understanding that some of the WMD's were quickly shipped to Syria.

General Petreaus has a record that stands on its own, whether we approve of him or not.

FSM

He is a great man. He came out AGAINST dont ask dont tell. Did this article mention that and I somehow missed it?

Mike

First Jim Lovell and then General Petraeus. What a great week at BYU.

I went to hear Lovell speak on Tuesday and I'm going tonight to hear the General.

Lovell is one of my all time heroes. Petraeus may turn into one.

I'm in Nirvanna this week with two men of such stature.

Earl

Hey, what happened to my earlier comment? Can't a person refer to Dick Cheney without being gonged? Seriously. Who's running the paper these days?

Re: Crusty

LOL. You crack me up, brotha. Oooh. The mud of VN, eh? I, too, have served in Vietnam. What particular moral standing or "clue" does that give you, anyway?

So tell me--who did you serve with, and in what campaigns? Who was your CO?

Earl

Well, it's worse than I thought. My comments keep getting "lost." I can't imagine there was anything offensive about seconding the comment from Crusty regarding his 11:19 AM comment. He was right on, just like General Smedley Butler was after World War I. War truly is a racket. There now, is that so controversial?

Anonymous

"BYU would have done better to invite a courageous human rights activist or a labor rights activist to speak." Most military commanders were against Bush's use of torture. It was General Petraeus who rained in the 101 st and made winning over the Iraqis their mission and not just killing them into submission. The current rules of engagement in Afghanistan were our soldiers can't fire unless they see someone shooting at them is an extension of General Petraeus' leadership.

Recruiting

He must be recruiting for the Army in a place that is one of the most conservative universities in the nation. He must think that this will translate into patriotism. Little does he know that Mormons do not provide much military recruits and are patriotic only in their words, yet their actions are from from qualifying for patriotism. Stop the war-mongering.

Anonymous

Keep up the good work general.

Bring an end to dont ask dont tell.

@ Crusty 9:25

You have the right to exercise your free speech. We ask you not to use it. Each statement you make paints an even less appealing picture of your intellect.

@Recruiting 12:28- Stop while you're behind. There are a lot of Mormons who serve in the military. You are so cluless. I am one of them; a proud and current member and veteran who despises war, but understands that there are forces so diabolically opposed to freedom and protection of basic human rights; who's only exestince is to terrorize good people, that they must be stopped. Sometimes this means sending them to meet their god. It's ugly, it's sad, but it's also self preservation of our society that is at stake.
Talk to most any military member and they will tell you just how bad war is. It would be great to sit down and sing and eat with these evil forces, but until the good Lord reigns again, we will be at war with these people. Obviously, you have never worn a uniform of the armed forces; you sit naked behind your freedom of speech and computer and spew ignorance.

Cats

To BYU Class of 69: You're entitled to your own opinons, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

The Bush Administration NEVER at ANY TIME made the claim that Iraq or Saddam Hussein had ANYTHING to do with 9/11. They NEVER made that claim. Many people misunderstand this. The only claim they made was that Iraq was a hotbead of terrorists (which it was) and that there were weapons of mass destruction.

The WMD considerations were based on the best available intelligence of the CIA, British Intelligence, Russian Intelligence and Egyptian Intelligence. They all believed Iraq had WMD and Saddam did nothing to disabuse them of this idea.

In addition, an assassination attempt on a U. S. President is an ACT OF WAR. That alone provided ample justification for the invasion along with the fact that Saddam had violated many provisions of the cease-fire agreement and UN resolutions.

People need to get up to speed on the facts.

Earl

Apparently, if you don't fall all over yourself gushing for the general, your comments are subject to being trash-canned. Oh well, no opinions will be changed either way, I'm sure.

Re: Recruiting @ 12:28

You must just like to make stuff up. Not including the military academies, the BYU ROTC program is the largest Army ROTC in the nation. Hardly supports your claim.

You clearly do not know the teachings of the LDS church om military service.

As an officer and Marine veteran of Vietnam, I can tell you that the thought of going to war is abhorrent. I have learned first-hand what war entails. However--I also appreciate most acutely the words of Thomas Paine (look him up if you don't know the name) when he said "Those who would reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it". Or, as quoted by David O. McKay, "We love peace, but not peace at any price. There is a peace more destructive of the manhood of living man, than war is destructive to his body. Chains are worse than bayonets.”

My sense is that you know nothing of freedom, or what it takes to ensure it.

inverted pyramid

What happened to the most important information being at the top of the story? Nice that BYU is having the General, great reading about him, but reading online you didn't know until page six whether he was still coming and when, of if this was a wrap on his visit.

John Pack Lambert

To Crusty,
You think we should not have entered World War II? That is the war Eisenhower was a genera in.
What should we have done. Said "Oh, the Japanese just killed a bunch of our soldiers, but we will not do anything"?
My question is, what is wrong with tribalism? Should our goal be to preserve the nation-state of Iraq or to set up stable and logical governments in the Middle East? If it is the later, than maybe we should let Iraq seperate into multiple nations.

Anonymous

Ignorance is bliss. Too many clueless individuals who think that freedom just dropped into their lap and that they have to do nothing to continue it. Any individual who thinks that the U.S. should not have been involved in World War II has absolutely no brain nor understanding of what would have happened had we not done so. Go ahead and ask all the Jewish people what they think about that!

Duh

I am a Soldier. It was General McArthur who stated: "The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war". For those who think we love to fight wars, get a life. You have never fought one nor do you even understand its reasoning. Don't make comments on subjects of which you have no concept.

Jimmyfrom LA

It's been my observation that the professional military hate war more than other segment of society. Primarily because they have seen firsthand and upclose the high cost of war. God bless the General in his endeavors on behalf of our nation.

PD Laws

I'm glad the General chose to speak @ BYU. That his visit has caused so much contentious bickering (in the comments) is regrettable. Latter-Day Saints have always (and continue) served faithfully in the armed services. As an Air Force vet with 20 years of faithful service whose father and grandfather both served in the Army I am proud of the tradition of military service in my family. So hoo-aah, hoo-rah, Airborne, and AIM HIGH General. I for one support you in the extremely difficult job you have before you!

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