I have decided. I do not like community organizer work at the federal level.
For that matter, at the state level either.
FINALLY!!! A real fight over a real constitutional issue, the left and the
right slugging it out is what makes this great republic possible. I am so tired
of the same lobbies controlling both parties so that no one takes a chance,
there is no fight, and we don’t get anywhere. The truth is that we
do not know,yet,how the Roberts’ court will rule on 10th amendment
challenges. Logically, the Roberts court should favor states rights and
overrule not only the Health Care Bill, but the 1964 Civil Rights Act as well.
That is logically, but for now, that is not certain. If the Utah Attorney
General is correct in his assessment that now is the time to challenge Federal
Mandates based on the 10th amendment, then this is only the beginning of a rocky
ride as the U S Supreme Court begins to reverse rulings that date back to the
Warren court. Before the Warren Court, state law prevailed over Federal
Great. How much is this going to cost now? At least the health care
legislation has a real benefit for the money. This is just a waste of time. If
you don't like the legislation, don't sue, just wait until the next election
cycle and vote for politicians who will write new legislation to override this
one. Getting hundreds or thousands of lawyers involved isn't the answer.In the meantime, let's cut our military spending in half and save some
of that money to pay off the Iraq War debt.
These lawsuits are a complete waste of much needed tax-payer dollars. No chance
of success. Please study the Supremacy Clause.
This is the conservative health care plan. That made me
giggle. The conservative health plan is: don't get sick.
This should go fast. This is the conservative health care plan.
So what's the difference between force someone to buy healthcare or buy a car to
spur the economy?And, no, I'm not kidding.If we allow
the Fed. Gov't to do the first, what's going to stop them from doing the second?
I was an independent voter who lives in MAryland,a heavily liberal state, but,
this bill just pushed me to be conservative-republican
So anti-lawsuit 'experts' claim the lawsuit will fail because the Constitution
states that Federal law trumps state laws.OK, fine.But
MY question is, where in the Constitution (the FEDERAL document) does it say
that the Fed Gov't has the authority to force American citizens to buy a product
or be fined????????????????NOWHERE!If you want to try
and say where, by all means, do so. Please tell us all the exact article and
section and post the text.
sure lets spend more of our money fighting over something that is all done.
This will be deemed constitutional. Why? Because it will be argued that they are
not forcing you to buy something but they are taxing you if you don't have
insurance. Therefore, your options are to have insurance or be taxed. We all
fully aware of the taxing power, and its constitutional legality, of congress.
Once again, Utah is spending tax-payer money to lose a legal battle.
problem with the mindset:Please pay me back all the tax money I paid
for your kids to get an education. Why should I have to work for your kids.Pay me for all the taxes I paid that you didn't just because you chose
to have kids. I was forced to pay for your kids. I didn't want to.
Who are saying what a great job for the states to assert their rights over the
federal government taking too much control and overstepping their bounds:When are you going to push Mr. Attorney General to sue the federal
government over the Defense of Marriage Act? The Constitution
specifically states that matters of public record (such as marriage) be valid
from one state to another. Which is great for your straight people who can get
married in Utah then move to Florida where it is still valid and legal. But not
them gays.This law is just as "unconstitutional" as the health care
reform, yet I don't see you clamering to get it repealed?
" Democracy is not the government telling us what insurance to have. Democracy
is THE PEOPLE voting on it, not the governement who in fact will still have a
different and better insurance. Democracy is a great thing IF the people vote on
it."The funny thing is, the people DID vote for this. We are not a
democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. Meaning the PEOPLE elected the
officials that passed this legislation. Therefore the system worked
EXACTLY how it was supposed to. Ain't America Grand?
Saying that Health Care is a right is like saying food and water are a basic
human right, no... they are needs, and unfortunately we have to work and pay for
those needs, not get a government handout or be forced in any way to fulfill
those needs. The backers of these "reforms" have very effectively created an
expectation, what we need is for individuals and organizations to find a way to
be more charitable on their own and not be forced into it.
We need the FairTax.
What are you thinking? How does this have anything at all to do with religion?
If you read the article (which I doubt - probably just looked at pictures) then
you'd know that 13 states are in on this, not just Utah. Crawl back in your
cave of ignorance and hatred and leave the world alone. Society is better
without people like you.
The more I read about the Healthcare bill the more I like it. 1.
Truly small businesses, those with less than 25 people will get tax waivers.
I'm tired of businesses with 500 employees calling themselves small business.
2. I am not going to renew my membership in the National Federation of
Independent Business. NFIB opposed this bill, but they don't represent small
business at all!3. College age kids will be able to stay on their parents
insurance. There are a lot of small businesses and college kids in
Utah. Once people read and understand this bill they are going to LIKE IT!!
BUT if you are an illegal alien, you won't have to worry about it. You STILL
won't be paying taxes and you'll STILL get healthcare when you want it,where you
want it. It won't cost you anything. The American taxpayer is taking care of
all of it for you and the president of that American taxpayer is making sure
that they DO!!!
If these lawsuits do not bring about a reversal of this ill-gotten victory for
Obamacare. The will of the the people must nonetheless be heard. I suggest
massive civil-disobedience to this travesty of a law. In my book an unjustlaw is
not a law. If those who oppose this will truly stick together it will not be
very long until changes it will be rescinded.
The mormon state, there are 13 states that are in the lawsuit, did you read the
article, get over yourself. Florida took the lead in it, and last I remember it
is in the south where there is a pominant Baptist communities.
What????? Democracy is not the government telling us what insurance to have.
Democracy is THE PEOPLE voting on it, not the governement who in fact will still
have a different and better insurance. Democracy is a great thing IF the people
vote on it.
The healthcare bill is awesome! Now little Joey can get insured, and get his
transplant! Thank you Mr. President! VOTE DEMOCRAT!
I am for the new healthcare by our president! Why is it that the mormon state
has to file suit when this will help America! Why is it that the LDS GOP has to
stand up and say...wait a minute! Com on! THis is good for folks like myself who
cant get insurance? Da?
I just want to know how many American Citizens these Attorney Generals feel
should go backrupt because of health care costs. Maybe they can also tell me how
many American they think is acceptable to not have any kind of health care.
Finally I want them to tell me what an appropriate amount of profit to be made
by insurance companies, doctors or hospitals is acceptable to provide adiquate
health care.I'm glad the health bill is signed. I think
just like with Prop 8, 51% told the other 49% what they couldn't do and now with
health care 51% are telling the other 49% what they want. You liked democracy
when it told people who they could and could not marry, how do you like it now?
Im all about a new Civil War! America is breaking up. Instead of United States
Of America, lets just call us America and drop the whole United part because NO
ONE is United anymore. Fight the Power!
Thank you, Obama, for doing in 2 years... what Bush could not do in
While you are at it, could you also sue to add the items below that are also
unwhatever?1) I don't think it is fair that I should have to pay so
much in property taxes that go to help out schools when I don't even have any
kids!2) Gas tax? Why should I pay tax gas? I don't like it. It is an
unfair tax just because it is. 3) All taxes. Let's just git rid of all of
You mean to say - I have insurance for myself and my family and don't care at
all about those who do not. I don't care about the thousands will go bankrupt
this year because their medical bills surpass their ability to pay. I don't
care about those who have pre-existing conditions. They should have though
about that before they had cancer. We'd rather make hospitals write off
thousands of dollars for emergency room visits rather than spend a hundred bucks
for a doctor's office visit. We don't care if people just hurry up and die
already. Now, get out of my way. I need to get my prescriptions and
take a look at my Medicare statement to make sure I don't anything for my own
All these AG's are wasting tax payer time and money! Go find some real
criminals like more rethuglican law makers!
Dear Attorneys General:Thank you for standing up for the people.
Thank you for listening to the people. Thank you for standing up for our
constitution. We all need to keep fighting.
Anyone else feeling a lot more like a subject than a citizen. All the post-vote
sound bites were things like "Now we will go down in history".
Hello...What?...Most citizens don't want this...Anyone listening?...Oh, I forgot
the music is too loud at the "Hurray for us party at the White House." Anyone
remember Jimmy Carter's presidency? I just hope we get another Ronald Regan to
follow this time and clean up Obama's mess.
I hope the AG's have success. It's time to rein in the Congress...they have WAY
over reached here. I for one am glad someone will step up and say..."this is
I'm willing to pay to preserve truth and freedom, i'm not willing to pay for
able-bodied little kids college education. If didn't love communism you'd be
able to comprehend the difference.
We have plenty. The economy has been great and we have more than enough to
spend on losing litigation!
I'm pleased that Utah's Attorney General has joined litigation to stop federal
control over the health care and health insurance sectors of the US economy. Whatever problems that exist in these sectors of the economy are a
direct result of unwarranted and unwise government obstruction and manipulation
of free enterprise. As President Regan said, "Government is not the solution to
our problem; government is the problem." Congress and the President
claim that they have authority to impose control over another 1/6th of the
economy because the Constitution allows Congress to regulate interstate
commerce. That claim manifests a profound and distorted misapplication and
deliberate misunderstanding of the interstate commerce clause. The founders
intended for the federal government to ensure that commerce between the states
be unimpeded by tariffs and other restrictions -- not to impose total control
over the economy! I wholeheartedly support Utah's long-overdue fight
against federal usurpation of power.
I need to go to the emergency room. Someone just crammed something down my
Utahns are a bunch of idiots! Doesn't a lawsuit cost more tax dollars?
. . . to have Shurtleff waste more of Utah's money in this ill-based and
ill-founded law suit. Enough Mark -- start thinking about the good of Utah's
citizens and stop the attempts to make political points to please the far right
get a clue fella. When this law goes into effect and the consequences become
apparent, there will be many who will be denied health care because of
government beaurocrats deciding whats best and most cost effective. besides it
is totally unsustainable! What is it with you supposed do-gooders? Don't you
realise that the final result will break our systema and our health care. It
will be worse than you ever imagined.
It takes a nearly trillion dollar federal mandate forced down their throats for
the people of the US (and this message board) to finally get serious about the
constitution? The federal government has been abusing its constitutionally
mandated limits for many decades and in recent years ONLY Congressman Ron Paul
has fought against it. Now that the republicans are bothered by a
democrat-passed law they will support the constitution? Well, hopefully they
will remember state's rights the next time they are thinking about a bill
usurping state's rights...
If only as much time and effort were put into making sure that everyone had
health care itself. What other wealthy industrialized nation allows any of its
citizens to die or go bankrupt because they can't afford health care? What does
that say about us as a nation? Who is there commenting here that is against
this that had ever not had health care and needed it? I am not one who could
sleep at night knowing that health care companies can use the practice of
rescission or not cover people with pre-existing conditions to protect profits
while people are allowed to die.
The tenth amendment reads, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohibited to it by the States, are reserved to the States
respectively, or to the people." Regardless of current practice, the idea that
federal law trumps state law doesn't come from the constitution. The tenth
amendment does allow the states to prohibit the federal government from getting
into areas that the constitution hasn't authorized it to govern, and this
(health care) is one of those areas.There is a word for forcing
people turn over their money by intimidation, as this health care plan proposes
to do via fines for those who don't sign up. It's RACKETEERING.
What a bunch of self-serving AG. This health care reform bill is a good thing
Where can I donate!?! Support the constitution or all is lost!
"Legal experts say it has little chance of succeeding because, under the
Constitution, federal laws trump state laws."Seriously? That's the
best the "legal experts" could come up with? What if the federal laws are
unconstitutional?! It doesn't take a legal expert to know that unconstitutional
federal laws can't trump state laws. And a federal law isn't constitutional just
because it's a federal law.
So what the opposition to this effort is really saying is that the Constitution
isn't worth the paper it was written on. If your argument against this lawsuit
succeeding is simply that federal law trumps state law (as is stated in this
article), then I guess the feds can justify anything they want to force the
states to do, despite what the Constitution allows. Isn't that interesting,
fellow posters???Be afraid, friends. Be afraid. Tyranny is not
only at our gates, it has crashed thru them. And that central problem has
nothing to do with which party is in charge.
The bill will do nothing to drop the cost of healthcare!!!
The National bar Association wishes to thank you for passing the attorney
employment act. :-) At least, conservatives have gotten a lot of experience at
being losers. One more time won't dash their selfish displays of egoism.
I feel like everyone is nuts. sue the fedeal government of elected people. That
is the government. The crazy thing is the right says the fed is too powerfull
when they are not in charge but it was okay to wire tap and torture when they
are in power. pray for the people that did torture. if you believe in christ you
dont torture anyone.
Thank you attorney generals!!!!!!!!
These state attorneys generals are spot on! I hope they seek to fast track this
to the US Supreme Court. I also hope they seek an injunction to stop the
implementation until the law suit is finalized in the US Supreme Court.
It is about time that some one stood up for the Constitution. The sold purpose
of government is to protect us from crime and foreign invasion. All other
purposes, such as health care, are unconstitutional and illegal use of taxpayer
This goes to show there is always choices in every situation. Instead of being
in fear, let us all do something positive to fight back, such as the above
action. And prayer doesn't ever hurt either. If ever there was a time to pray
for our country..............