You ask "Will Stupack's vote lead to more dead babies?" The answer is simple --
Moderates: you'd better go to your local Democratic caucuses tomorrow. You
certainly won't be welcomed at the Republican caucuses!The GOP have
allowed themselves to become lapdogs to the birth-certificate conspiracists, the
death-panel paranoids, the Tea Partiers who shout racial slurs and make fun of a
Parkinson's sufferer, the Bachmann-Palin Overdrive neo-McCarthyists.The LDS Church recently released a statement containing the following
quotes:"The Church views with concern the politics of fear and
rhetorical extremism that render civil discussion impossible.""Similarly, the Book of Mormon tells a sober story of civilizational
decline... In almost every case, the seeds of decay begin with the violation of
the simple rules of civility.""The political diversity of Latter-day
Saints spans the ideological spectrum... Moreover, the Church itself is not
aligned with any particular political ideology or movement. It defies category.
Its moral values may be expressed in a number of parties and ideologies."So, at the caucuses tomorrow, if you're a moderate you can either go to
the GOP caucuses and get shouted down by red-faced conspiracy theorists, or you
can come to the democratic caucuses and actually have your voice heard.
There is a difference between "abusive" and "offensive."There is
also such a thing as time and place.You have free speech. The real
question is: Whatever happened to respect and being polite?
I am sick and tired of not being able to say the truth on the grounds that it is
"abusive." What ever happened to free speech?
The Republican lunatics are going to cost their party at the polls.
With the passage of the legislation allowing the federal government to take
control of the medical care system of the United States, a major turning point
has been reached in the dismantling of the values and institutions of America.
Even the massive transfer of crucial decisions from millions of doctors and
patients to Washington bureaucrats and advisory panels as momentous as that is
does not measure the full impact of this largely unread and certainly
unscrutinized legislation. If the current legislation does not entail the
transmission of all our individual medical records to Washington, it will take
only an administrative regulation or, at most, an Executive Order of the
President, to do that. With politicians now having not only access to our most
confidential records, and having the power of granting or withholding medical
care needed to sustain ourselves or our loved ones, how many people will be bold
enough to criticize our public servants, who will in fact have become our public
masters? The corrupt manner in which this massive legislation was rammed through
Congress, will be remembered in 2010 at the polls.
actually, it's the exact OPPOSITE of what you said. this seems to be the real
problem with America, a bunch of uneducated loonies spouting off, never
determining if what they're saying is fact or fiction. pathetic.
Another lost freedom! What freedom did you lose? I could not tell
from your post. Would you clarify it for me?
The issue is not whether the bill supports abortion. It is rather, whether or
not Federal funding will be used to pay for it. This bill will not stop
abortion, it may reduce it however,as preganant women will have health care
benefits that allow them to bring a baby to term. But the content of the bill
makes it certain that federal tax dollars cannot be used to pay for an abortion.
Those that pushed the Stupec ammendment were really trying to expand
restrictions on abortion by unrelated federal legislation, and trying to use
this emotional issue to stop the reform effort. But, if you
really want to criminalize abortion then do it by constitutional amendment,
declaring that from the moment of conception a fetus is fully human and
therefore invested with all rights and obligations under law. Hey, maybe we
should tax fetuses to pay for maternity health care. Call it a pregnancy tax.
What do suppose that notion might do to the abortion rate?
What part of the executive order which does not allow for the use of federal
funds to pay for abortions did you not understand? God forgive us for
tolerating the emotional, uneducated, holier-than-thou right-wing moutpieces.
The rest of us do not owe you a living! Your parents should have taught you that
America is the land of equal opportunity for self determination,the pursuit of
happiness, not for the government to determine the quality of your life! That's
called slavery when other people control your life!
Thanks to Democrats, your tax dollars are being used to fund the killing of
unborn babies! How does that make you feel, if you value human life, are a moral
person and believe life is sacred? If you have no values, no conscience, no
morality, well then I guess you are happy to kill innocent children! God forgive
us for electing these tryrants!
Since mandatory health care was passed in MA, there has been a decrease in
abortions.All countries that have guaranteed health care have lower
abortion rates then the US.All evidence indicates that, funding
issue totally aside, this bill will reduce abortions.
Why is it pro lifers have such a narrow view of life? Caring about life can't be
limited to the unborn. Once born, Republicans and other pro lifers don't seem to
care much about the quality or quantity of life anymore. Seems to me that they
pick and choose what life is important to them just like the rest of us but in
their case they seem to have the most limited view possible. I am 7 months
pregnant, pro choice , and can tell you how many babies you kill because the
mama doesn't have access to good prenatal care. Every time I have an appointment
and get checked, I wonder how pro lifers imagine they are saving babies just by
opposing abortion. What nonsense.
no it will not it did not change existing law regarding funding which is the
point, the outburst was nothing more then another pathetic baseless rant from
the right, sadly this type of boorish behavior has become expected and dare I
say acceptable in congress.
Not one of you has mentioned the deal he worked out with Obama making sure that
no federal funds are going to be used for abortion. This is what he was holding
out for and he got what he wanted.Abortion, whether you like it or
not, is legal in this country if you pay for it yourself. Civility
The true sadness is that our country has deteriorated to the point that civility
is mocked and the lack thereof applauded. We might as well start selling
jerseys for our favorite political team. Cheer, cheer, cheer for our team no
matter what the bill says. Nothing will be fixed in this country until we stop
fighting like children. Unfortunately, if history is a guide, it will take a
major blood-letting before people realize once again that all Americans bleed
red regardless of whose "team" they belong to. That's the lesson the Greatest
Generation learned, and that is why they created the most prosperous nation in
the world for the rest of us to enjoy.
From the Party of "No"...to"You Lie!""He__ No!"And
now "Baby Killer!"It's sad to watch what the modern conservative
movement has done to Republicans.BTW - Should have just stuck
is the Baby-Killing itself, which is elective abortion. Truth is an
affirmative-defense, or should be! Stupak's actions were pathetic; he always
intended on voting for the bill. Just needed political "cover" by a public
hodling-out first, which is what he did. Calculated deception. That's really
offensive, and his constituents should boot him out!!!!
We need to stop worrying about if a statement is nice or not. Let's just worry
about the truth.Some guy named John was baptizing in the river
Jordan when he call the Scribes and Pharisees "Generation of Vipers" to their
faces. It was not nice, but it was true.Will Stupack's vote lead to
more dead babies?
think how many abortions will be prevented now that a young mother will have
health coverage to deliver the baby in the first place.Republicans
only see things one way, their way.Too bad on your huge historic
loss to the Democrats yesterday. They kicked your back ends back to about 1950.
And if you do take over the house and senate in November just remember that
Obama will be waiting for you with his veto pen every time you try to do
anything.Sorry, I would like to say more but I have to run to
my Democrat Victory Party!God bless the President of the United
States of America.
Only Dems could find such behavior offensive.
Whew! Not from Utah. This is good news.
those were the only States that a fool like that would have opened his big mouth
and stuck his foot it. I'm a little surprised it was not Utah.Great work Democrats for this HUGE victory.Too bad Republicans for
your very Huge loss.
If it supports abortion then it is in fact killing babies. Sometimes
the truth is not popular... Neugebauer has it right!
Should have done it 50+ yrs ago in front of his mother, to let her have some
food for thought. Oh, that's mean isn't it? Unlike abortion, which is such a
kind, loving procedure.
NO! Decorum is only required frum dem evil nasty republicans, NOT the good guys,
the Democrats. They can do no wrong.Don't apologise Congressman.
Shout louder! BABY KILLERS! Demoncrats need to be exposed for who they are.
Stop playing nice. They never do. SPEAK THE TRUTH with the voice of thunder!