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Ogden Democrat Neil Hansen calling for House speaker David Clark to resign over Kevin Garn scandal

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  • chuckles55
    March 19, 2010 6:21 p.m.

    Garn did the only thing that was politically expedient, resign. Is there anyone out there dumb enough to believe that this was not done with full knowledge of the Ruling Party in Utah politics. I suspect that a lot of back-room agreements and decisions were made long before brother Garn stood up and wrung his hands in full view of his cronies. I suspect that after an acceptable amount of contrition and pennance on his part, Garn will be back again in front of his voters who will support him for being so forthcoming in his revelations. Too bad he didn't do this before he paid the $150K, which he stupidly thought would make it all go away. Never has, never does...

  • An Observer
    March 19, 2010 6:01 p.m.

    With loony nonsense coming from the left, the DEMOCRATS,

    it is no wonder this state is so strongly republican.

  • awsomeron
    March 19, 2010 5:57 p.m.

    People REsign over the dumbest things.

    So you have a dumb moment in a Hot Tub 25 years ago.

    If the girl was a minor it was just barely, and the stats have way run out.

    From that time on you had led a good life, riddled with tremendous guilt for your one slack moment or event.

    Own you did it and ride it out, don't resign.

  • Astounded by the Hysteria
    March 19, 2010 4:07 p.m.

    I am absolutely astounded by the hysteria that oontinues to be written about the Garn problem. Of course the Legislature wasn't applauding Garn's misdeeds.
    My goodness, every time a teacher or policeman or doctor or clergyman or ANYONE commits a crime or hurts a child--do we scream that all teachers are corrupt or that all policeman are lawbreakers or that all doctors should loose their licenses or all should be jailed? Obsolutely NOT. I am not guilty because I know someone who is.

    Each individual who has apparently broken the law needs to be investigated and judged on whatever happened in that particular circumstance.

    Before you scream to "throw all the incumbunts out" please take the time to look at the legislation and how your legislator voted. See if he or she represented your values and beliefs.

    Obviously no one votes exactly as I want them to--but I want a legislator who will vote the majority of the time the way I would hope he does.

    Be reasonable, use your head!

  • Another Utah Independent
    March 19, 2010 3:24 p.m.

    Pelosi doesn't abuse power and what planet are you on. Haven't you been watching the news! Emjay has it right. Everyone is so quick to judge.

  • Susan
    March 19, 2010 3:13 p.m.

    November seems so far away, but soon enough Democrats will be looking for new employment. And with employment down I hope they get a taste of what many are going through.Our own Jim Matheson told me that Social Security was good for 30 years. He lied!! They all lie, but Republicans lie to, so here's the deal Republicans, read our lips, you had better listen to, or we will vote you out to.

  • harley
    March 19, 2010 2:43 p.m.

    you dems are just made your out numbered 10 to 1 and none of you has past sins

  • Herb Gravy
    March 19, 2010 2:40 p.m.

    Pelosi abuse power? Nah, never! Just use her power to fly her and her family all over the world and use our money to feed and booze them. Golly, she is such a stateswoman! Even CNN has exposed her.
    Check out "That Terrible Woman" on youtube.

  • Emjay
    March 19, 2010 2:38 p.m.

    Come on, you guys. The legislature wasn't applauding the mistake Garn made years ago. They were applauding his service in the legislature. Let's not get so nasty and irrational.

  • Re 2:01
    March 19, 2010 2:25 p.m.

    I NOW resign as a republican. Ive had enough.

    Hopefully----

    Obama will do his job?!?!?!

  • @ The Rock
    March 19, 2010 2:22 p.m.

    My thoughts and following emotion exactly!

    If only.

  • resign?
    March 19, 2010 2:01 p.m.

    Do not give the guy any ideas.
    That is the way our legislator is run. You run for a while and get some bribes, then you quit or get kicked out, then you come back as a lobbyist hand out the bribery money, and get a big check for yourself. ( look for Garn next year as a lobbyist)
    This is what happens when there is one party rule.
    Republican-Democrat does not matter, its two sides of the same coin.
    We just need to keep their numbers equal so they will fight among themselves, and get nothing but the most important things done.

  • Clark Supporter of Garn..ewwww!
    March 19, 2010 1:46 p.m.

    I agree, Clark needs to go. Send him packing.

  • Anonymous
    March 19, 2010 1:17 p.m.

    Dave Clark should resign for allowing that admission of smut on the floor of the people.

  • Despicable!
    March 19, 2010 12:53 p.m.

    I couldn't believe it when I heard that Speaker Clark had been informed of Rep. Garn's problems early in the last week of the session. That Clark had to know what was up when Garn asked for a few minutes at the end of the sesson. That Clark did nothing to stop Garn from speaking. That Clark, immediately after Garn finished, expressed hope that Garn would remain in the House.

    All this in the face of a selective cofession that did not mention the $150,000 payment and non-disclosure agreement (read "hush-money") and did not include Garn's statement of resignation.

    The Speaker of the House, knowing the problems were much deeper than what Garn mentioned his speech listened intently to this political theater then encouraged Garn to remain in the House, and then presided over a standing ovation for him.

    Gotta admit, sounds like pretty poor judgment to me.
    Unbelieveably poor judgment. Clark's resignation would seem appropriate to me.

    How in the world could a House Speaker condone Garn's behavior like Clark did?

  • wallofvoodoo
    March 19, 2010 12:15 p.m.

    Horse is dead already! Quit beating it!

  • Anonymous
    March 19, 2010 12:03 p.m.

    I think the real story is that there is a registered Democrat in Utah! I'm surprised the Churchislature hasn't hunted him down yet.

  • CONFUSED
    March 19, 2010 11:37 a.m.

    There is a Democrat Party in Utah?

  • Re: straitpath
    March 19, 2010 11:27 a.m.

    I totally agree. The only way we can get out of the mess we are in, is if every single incombant is votded out of office. Both at the federal and local levels. Government has become corrupt at all levels.
    We also need to get Obama out as soon as possible. If he get's this health care bill pushed through, we will be living under comunistic rule soon after.

  • AD
    March 19, 2010 11:25 a.m.

    He absolutely should NOT resign. Hansen is acting like a spoiled brat. You dont have to agree with everyone around you, but look at the good these people have done as well. Everyone is so quick to judge it drives me insane!!!!!

  • Darrel
    March 19, 2010 11:17 a.m.

    @ Pelosi

    In what way has Pelosi abused power

  • criminals
    March 19, 2010 10:53 a.m.

    Agree that everyone that applauded should step down, what a terrible example. Poor timing by our House and poor taste as well. Clark tried to spin it another way in the press but the bottom line was we never applaud those that rape, assault, expose, molest (or whatever he did or didn't do) to this child. His record in congress means nothing, his "coming clean" means nothing, he is a criminal and should be tried for his crimes (probably came clean because the state statute has expired)

  • Bonnie
    March 19, 2010 10:41 a.m.

    I agreee that Rep. Clark showed extremely poor judgment in leading that charade. For that alone, he absolutely should resign as House Speaker. He clearly doesn't speak for the House, and his actions demonstrate very bad judgment. If he doesn't resign on his own, as Speaker within the next week, the Utah House of Representatives should proceed with his removal from this position of leadership.

    However, I do not think this one action rises to the level of calling for his resignation as a representative. That should be left to the voters in his district to determine if he has represented their interests to their satisfaction.

  • Pelosi
    March 19, 2010 10:37 a.m.

    There are far worse things than showing some skin in front of someone else. Nancy Pelosi's abuse of power would put her in jail for much longer than this Garn incident if the justice system decided to look into it.

  • Anonymous
    March 19, 2010 10:35 a.m.

    It's about time Utah Dems and the rest of them in Federal government grow a pair and start fighting back. When Repubs do something like this they need to have their noses rubbed in it.

  • straitpath
    March 19, 2010 10:19 a.m.

    I would like to see every incumbent in every race thrown out. Both parties have gotten us into this awful mess

  • Desert_Storm
    March 19, 2010 9:48 a.m.

    Just wonderful how our legislature once again made this state the laughing stock of the nation!! Standing ovation for illegal acts with a minor, everyone who applauded such behavior should resign and our state must begin anew. The reality is, the robotic voters will re-elect and even praise those who condone such behavior!!

  • It's time.
    March 19, 2010 9:44 a.m.

    Investigate Garn. Time to move on from the story of applause following remarks made by the speaker. I would imagine his colleagues will vote him out as speaker when the chance is given. This incident was unfortunate, embarrassing, and ridiculous. But, time to move on to a new story. I'm sure it will only be a matter of time before our legislators give us another CNN news worthy scandal.

  • Pagan
    March 19, 2010 9:43 a.m.

    We have a reponsibility to enforce the laws of this country on those who break the law.

    Garn did break the law. By getting naked in front of a 15 year old girl.
    Peolsi, did not.

  • bob
    March 19, 2010 9:40 a.m.

    we have balance in Washington. You live on what planet.

  • Resign Or Face The Result
    March 19, 2010 9:26 a.m.

    Now more than any other time voters throw out, meaning vote out "Every" incumbent here in office in Utah and also nationally in the next 2 elections. These people have degraded our lives with their deciet and lies and we need new blood. The new ones that replace the gray beards need their feet held to the fire or they will serve "1" term! This whole representative thing is a farce, and benefits the pockets of the elected primarily. Out with every incumbent voters!

  • The reason is
    March 19, 2010 9:26 a.m.

    Hansen knew that Garn had committed criminal activity while a member of the legislature years earlier - was, in fact, guilty of child abuse and had never been tried for that offence, and his votes on matters for the last week of the legislative session should not have mattered. Besides, he was also afraid of what has been come to be called the bookends of this legislative session - Killpack at the beginning, and Garn at the end, holding up the sham of an "ethical" legislature. What an absolute joke. I think, to make them feel good about themselves, we ought to invite Roman Polanski and a few hundred Catholic Priests who have all done the same thing Garn did to come to our legislature to receive the praise and adulation for what they have done from an obviously receptive crowd. If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.

  • Jefferrooo
    March 19, 2010 9:24 a.m.

    I agree with Sammy. You all need to resign. What made me sick, is you all patted yourselves on the back for a job well done. What a crock! The tobacco tax was the last straw for me. I will vote against every incumbant this year. Including the Gov. Also everyone up for re-election in Washington. Crooks.

  • Anonymous
    March 19, 2010 9:23 a.m.

    Oh, brother. How ridiculous.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder
    March 19, 2010 9:23 a.m.

    That's all good and fine that Ogden Democrat Neil Hansen calling for House speaker David Clark to resign over Kevin Garn scandal, HOWEVER, whose demanding also that Bennett quit?. Utah is having its caucuses next week. People will be picked as delegates to go to the State Convention. At the convention, if Bennett cannot get 60% of the delegates to support him, he will either be defeated at the convention or be forced into a runoff. Bennett's campaign is encouraging its supporters to show up at the caucuses and lie as best they can to become delegates to the convention. Right now there is a heavy anti-Bennett bias even within the official Utah Republican Party. Having Bennett's supporters come in and claim to be wholly undecided or hostile to Bennett could help send his brigade to the convention to protect him. Desperate men do desperate things. We have the video of Senator Bennett’s son encouraging supporters to hide their allegiance to the senator to increase their chances of becoming a delegate.

  • Gary
    March 19, 2010 9:16 a.m.

    I think it would be great if the whole legislature resigned. We'd all be better off.

  • Fair and Balanced
    March 19, 2010 9:10 a.m.

    Sorry Rock, Nancy Pelosi will not and should not resign. You see- on the federal level we have more balance - unlike here in Utah. Any political system works with better with balance - too many Republicans or Democrats is a problem.

  • Sammy
    March 19, 2010 9:01 a.m.

    I'd like to call for all of you guys to resign.

    You are all equally guilty.

  • Anonymous
    March 19, 2010 8:54 a.m.

    Yeah, this wouldn't make sense unless Pelosi got naked in front of a 15 year old girl.
    Guess what? She didn't.
    Not a very clear story here.

  • The Rock
    March 19, 2010 8:45 a.m.

    I read the headline: Utah Dem calls for speaker to resign!

    My heart accelerated and I felt a wave of excitement sweep over me. Could it be that James Matheson was calling for Queen Nancy Pelosi to resign?

    One could only hope.

    What a let down.

  • Tex LDS
    March 19, 2010 8:42 a.m.

    I agree - everyone that stood and applauded Garn on the floor of the people's House should resign.

    Utah politicians should, above all, show the highest attention to integrity and ethics, and preserving the importance of the people's house.

    But what we usually hear is the same old lame excuses and arguments made by gentile politicians.

  • Single Dad
    March 19, 2010 8:41 a.m.

    Somebody smells blood in the political waters. Let the frenzy begin.

  • Jinx
    March 19, 2010 8:39 a.m.

    While i was infuriated by the applause of the House for Garn, I have to seriously laugh at this call coming from Hansen, The laughingstock of the House. This guy does nothing. He hasn't had any legislation pass in years and does nothing but point fingers and criticize others. Wake up Neil and resign so someone who will work for us can have your seat!

  • Anonymous
    March 19, 2010 8:21 a.m.

    I don't get this. Why should the Speaker resign over Garn's indiscretion twenty-five years ago?

  • Yes
    March 19, 2010 8:16 a.m.

    I completely agree! I don't think any other profession would applaud a colleague guilty of crimes against a minor.

  • Did anyone happen to see
    March 19, 2010 8:08 a.m.

    That the House minority Leader David Litvack completely disagree with Rep. Hansen. The KSL story states "Litvack praised Clark for what he says was 'unprecedented access and a great working relationship' for Democrats during the session."